frankfrancis871:
I'm relocating this year but its painful to start afresh

frankfrancis871:
I'm relocating this year but its painful to start afresh

superlightning:


Pazienza, your grammar is not enough to REDRAW THE IGBO MAP OF OVER 5000 years old. ASA, ndoki have their kins in abia state answering same name in abia state. You won't change their ethnicity for them.

You are balkanizing igboland and I will not support such.

Stop living only in the present. You know nothing about the future.

OreMI22:


I think that guy's problem is that he tried unsucessfully to date an Ikwerre girl.

But seriously, we know there are squabbles in every clan including the Yorubas or Fulanis.

I agree that the SE igbos should not always turn their back to be used. If a negotiated benefit cannot happen with our Ikwerre brothers, then everyone should go it alone. But not to come to nairaland to spew hate against othe Igbo groups.

I also agree the SE should not be made to depend on facilities in the SS - including the SS airports. Igbos should LEARN to build their own facilities than agree to attach to anybody's facilities. I vividly remember in 1980s, Igbos used to queue up for admission at Uniport, and it brought unprecedented tension with Ikwerre and Ijaw people.

Gov Jim Nwobodo as an astute administrator got Prof Kenneth Dike (1st U.I Vice Chancellor) and other notable professors and set up a State University with Campuses in Abakaliki, Awka and Nnewi ! That school satisfied the urge for Igbos to go to Uniport and UNN. Soon enough, Sam Mbakwe did the same thing in Uturu, Imo State.

Igbos should learn to build facilities they need in their land. If Igbos can do that, they will solve 80% of their problems in Nigeria because the other people simply want to use Igbo numbers to run their facilities. While reminding Igbos at every juncture that they don't belong.

pazienza:


Now, you are speaking from both sides of the mouth.

pazienza:


Stop confusing issues. No one is speaking of Asa and Ndoki Rivers here. Those ones are proud Igbos.

The present determine the future. People like you are stuck in the past when Ikwerre were Igbo( even some of them are beginning to question this, as they claim they were at no point, Igbos), and PH was an Igbo town. That past is gone. The early you lots snap out of your past and live in present, which is accepting the reality that Ikwerre is not Igbo and that Ph is now an Ikwerre-Ijaw city, the better you lots.

frankfrancis871:


HOW THE EMIR SAVED THE IGBOS

1st october was approaching, there was a plan to attack and kill and attack Igbos merciless. The King of Igbos in Nasarawa heard this and immediately told the Emir who assured him that nothing will happen. For me, I was scared though I had to be careful.
On first of october, I totally forget about things. I went out with my bike and everywhere was peaceful and cool, I heard that the Emir ordered that nobody should touch Igbos or face punishment. We thank God but I was very sad because this quit notice made Igbos sell off their properties to fellow Igbos. We(my family) sold our shop many after running after returning and had to start life all over, the returnees were mocked by some Nasarawa people.

I will list out tribes in Nasarawa and other places to prove that hausas are not populated and unity of the Igbo nation in my next post, stay tuned.

superlightning:


It is your type that aggravate the Igbophobia we already have.

Gowon apologized to the asaba igbos and by extension other Igbo where acts tantamount to genocide were carried out. Google and stop spewing hate here.

If I should name my street GOWON STREET, how does it take away my igbo culture? Its just politics!

Do you how may edifices and structures named after the likes of Nnamdi Azikiwe, Alvan ikoku, Ndubuisi KANU, aguiyi Ironsi, ebitu ukiwe, etc in other parts of Nigeria? Its pure politics!

OK stop using the 20naira note and 100naira notes in your ANAMBRA or Enugu, etc because the men whose portrait are there instigated Igbo genocide, okay? Guo ishi gi.

HopeAtHand:
C'mon pazienza et al, things are not that bad. We all fell from the same ethnic branch afterall.

pazienza:


It's not just politics. Every single Ikwerre man believes that Gowon is their liberator, whereas Ndiigbo were their oppressors and are still on a mission to start oppressing them again, if given the chance.
The stadium was named Liberation stadium in the first place, to celebrate their liberation from Igbo oppressors.
This was done after the war, so we could forgive them.
But for Wike to come and rename the stadium, Gowon stadium in 2017, while giving an Igbophobic speech that demonically presented Ndiigbo as oppressors who oppressed Ikwerre people and Rivers people in old Eastern region, you must know that things have not changed.
The story Wike told there, is exactly what Ikwerre commoners echo in their facebook pages. It's all too familiar.

Nazis had apologized for their role in Jewish pogrom, so what? Israelis should now start renaming infrastructures after Hitler?
Please spare me that talk. Non of those Igbo names sanctioned mass starvation against Nigerians. Non of them invaded Nigerians and bombed market places filled with market women and children, in bid to prevent food circulation and maintain starvation policy. Neither did they bomb Northern hospitals. Infact, I doubt you are even Igbo, I guess I'm replying you as an academic exercise.

frankfrancis871:
I'm relocating this year but its painful to start afresh

pazienza:


It's not just politics. Every single Ikwerre man believes that Gowon is their liberator, whereas Ndiigbo were their oppressors. The stadium was named Liberation stadium in the first place, to celebrate their liberation from Igbo oppressors.
This was done after the war, so we could forgive them.
But for Wike to come and rename the stadium, Gowon stadium in 2017, while giving an Igbophobic speech that demonically presented Ndiigbo as oppressors who oppressed Ikwerre people and Rivers people in old Eastern region, you must know that things have not changed.
The story Wike told there, is exactly what Ikwerre commoners echo in their facebook pages. It's all too familiar.

Nazis had apologized for their role in Jewish pogrom, so what? Israelis should now start renaming infrastructures after Hitler?
Please spare me that talk. Non of those Igbo names sanctioned mass starvation against Nigerians. Non of them invaded Nigerians and bombed market places filled with market women and children, in bid to prevent food circulation and maintain starvation policy. Neither did they bomb Northern hospitals. Infact, I doubt you are even Igbo, I guess I'm replying you as an academic exercise.

superlightning:


The sooner you realize the extent to which politics can go the better you know how to address the identity crisis issue.

I accept whoever identifies with us and rejects those who don't.

Keep your sense to yourself.

basilo101:

I am also planning relocation but won't be able to make it this year

OreMI22:


Oga, you probably live in Port Harcourt and your Ikwerre neighbors have showed you pepper.

Why i laugh at people like you is that your only reason for your crusade is "Revenge" and NOT, let Igbo build their own industrial complex at home so we stop depending on anybody. I just told you how Jim Nwobodo solved the issue of lack of higher education placement for people of old Anambra state by creating his own University right there in Enugu, Abakaliki, Awka and Nnewi. In truth, that is the solution Igbos MUST imbibe in Nigeria.

Part of the reason for the thread is to proffer solutions on how this could be done. If Igbo concentrate more on how to develop Igboland than how to drag Lagos, Port harcourt and Abuja with the natives, they will be ok and others will soon enough begin to relocate to Igboland.

But we always want to be dragging Port Harcourt and Kano with these people instead of developing our homeland. A sense of inferiority complex makes the Igboman living in Ibadan feel more successful than the person in Enugu or Awka. We MUST learn to build our homeland and STOP expending energy looking for who hates us or not.

superlightning:


Tomorrow people from these same areas will come out and say that omehia does not speak or them.

Are you also aware the obiookpor in river state stood with IPOB in 2017?

Ndoki, ASA are all parts of abia state but a part of these communities were balkanized to river state. Are you not aware? You are either ANAMBRA or ENUGU so you won't know.

Are you aware that there is IPOB thriving in every local government area of river state.

By the way did obiano, an Igbo man,speak in favour of ipob? So its not about ikwerrre or no ikwerre. Its about the individual.

frankfrancis871:
Wow, which states do you stay?

InyinyaAgbaOku:


The way our righteousness is like abomination to God is exactly the way your persistence on this matter is to me.
Majority carries the vote. Your Ikwerre friend is not enough to make Igbos the laughing stock of the world.
No matter what you say here, Ikwerre isn't Igbo. QED.

InyinyaAgbaOku:


The way our righteousness is like abomination to God is exactly the way your persistence on this matter is to me.
Majority carries the vote. Your Ikwerre friend is not enough to make Igbos the laughing stock of the world.
No matter what you say here, Ikwerre isn't Igbo. QED.

pazienza:



You got it all wrong.
My reason for my stance on Ikwerre, is that it is essential we defined who is Igbo. If we don't do this, the entire Nigeria would take us for a ride and exploit us to the fullest.
Not long ago, GEJ is Igbo, Even Dakuku when he needed Igbo votes, became Igbo. Why do you think they are doing that?
Have you ever asked yourself that? Until we rid ourselves of all these opportunists we would never regain our stand in Nigeria. You make Igbo tag a cheap commodity to groups who openly deride and denounce us, and you wonder why no one takes us serious any longer in Nigeria?

Jim Nwobodo solved nothing. Ikwerres Igbo hate had nothing to do with our coming to Ikwerre land for jobs or to school. If it were, they would have simply enacted Indigene policies to protect and favour their own indigenes in admission processes and job opportunities, which is exactly what state schools in SE do. You will struggle as an Anambra man to get admission in EBSU Abakaliki,, because of their indigenous quota status.
Same thing with getting jobs in any state government institution in any SE state that is not your state of origin.
Indigenous protectionist policies are present in all SE states, yet they are not avenues for Igbophobia or Igbo denial.

You are simply juxtaposing issues here. Infact I'm beginning to wonder if you even understand the fundamental issues in discourse here. You are simply all over the place.

Nobody is dragging PH with anyone. I was born and bred in Enugu, I'm not from Enugu, I know I can't be governor of Enugu State tomorrow, but I also know that Enugu is an Igbo state whose people are Igbo people, and who Harbour no deep seated resentment towards me.
By the way, I don't live in Ph, but I'm glad you know that any Igbo man who had lived in Ph, will never support any idea to add Ikwerre to Igboland. Because they would have come face to face with the scathing reality of the Igbophobia of those people.

Eziokwu bu ndu. We will keep saying the truth, until our people swallow it, and together, we can revive the Igbo nation back to life again, after we must have cut off the current vampires and vultures feeding off us.

pazienza:



You got it all wrong.
My reason for my stance on Ikwerre, is that it is essential we defined who is Igbo. If we don't do this, the entire Nigeria would take us for a ride and exploit us to the fullest.
Not long ago, GEJ is Igbo, Even Dakuku when he needed Igbo votes, became Igbo. Why do you think they are doing that?
Have you ever asked yourself that? Until we rid ourselves of all these opportunists we would never regain our stand in Nigeria. You make Igbo tag a cheap commodity to groups who openly deride and denounce us, and you wonder why no one takes us serious any longer in Nigeria?

Jim Nwobodo solved nothing. Ikwerres Igbo hate had nothing to do with our coming to Ikwerre land for jobs or to school. If it were, they would have simply enacted Indigene policies to protect and favour their own indigenes in admission processes and job opportunities, which is exactly what state schools in SE do. You will struggle as an Anambra man to get admission in EBSU Abakaliki,, because of their indigenous quota status.
Same thing with getting jobs in any state government institution in any SE state that is not your state of origin.
Indigenous protectionist policies are present in all SE states, yet they are not avenues for Igbophobia or Igbo denial.

You are simply juxtaposing issues here. Infact I'm beginning to wonder if you even understand the fundamental issues in discourse here. You are simply all over the place.

Nobody is dragging PH with anyone. I was born and bred in Enugu, I'm not from Enugu, I know I can't be governor of Enugu State tomorrow, but I also know that Enugu is an Igbo state whose people are Igbo people, and who Harbour no deep seated resentment towards me.
By the way, I don't live in Ph, but I'm glad you know that any Igbo man who had lived in Ph, will never support any idea to add Ikwerre to Igboland. Because they would have come face to face with the scathing reality of the Igbophobia of those people.

Eziokwu bu ndu. We will keep saying the truth, until our people swallow it, and together, we can revive the Igbo nation back to life again, after we must have cut off the current vampires and vultures feeding off us.

GuyWise:
Oga Pazienza Chineke gozie gi.

OreMI22:


Sometimes the senselessness of your post gets me. I have never seen anyone that does anything without a concrete outcome they want to achieve. But for you, you just want to rant for nothing until Ikwerres scream they are Igbo. So what?? If i don't need to use Japanese ports, airports and lands, why do i need to go on a tirade just to get Japanese to accept they are Igbo? You can see why and how you don't make sense at all.

If you don't want to use port Harcourt and you know Igbos can stand without the Ikwerres, why don't you simply ignore them instead of spewing pointless hate on the internet? If you see an Ikwerre man claiming Igbo for a political position and you are tackling him with your points, then it would make sense then.

What you want to achieve with your tirade is for Ikwerre to accept they are Igbo or not. Fine, if Ikwerre say they are Igbo, so what? What does it change?

xfactor23:



Bro, I was with a chief in Choba, an Ikwerre chief, who told me to my face that Ikwerre are Igbos, but the Nigerian politics have done a lot of damages that will take time and a lot of effort from both divide to heal. Its in our hands to correct this errors. Germany was once a fragmented state, orchestrated by her enemies in the then old Europe, it took one man, Ottoman Von Bismarck, to unite Germany.
Igbo case cannot be different. If you allow emotion to keep getting on your senses, then you will keep repeating the same mistake. Its high time we give those that are genuinely working for our unification to play their part before we jump into conclusion.

OreMI22:
What is so difficult for our people to grasp is that the quarrel in Nigeria is all about opportunity.

The fear for the Igbo is exactly the fear or hatred you have for a better candidate that shows up to the same job interview as you.

Let Ndigbo look inwards and build their own area. Let Ndigbo STOP focusing on how to count all the things they did to develop Kano or Sokoto!

Let Ndigbo build their own infrastructure, and nobody will deny that you did it! We can get a world bank loan and get Chinese CCC to construct this railway network that will revolutionize the zone and ease the stress of doing business in our zone. But the SE governors must work together and stop acting like thin gods in their tiny states. The must look up and see the bigger picture of regional economic integration as the only viable way to develop the region. The first step is an efficient railway system and the second is a power generating capacity through coal and gas.

Depending on FG to build anything reasonable in the SE is like asking Satan to help you get to heaven. It will NEVER happen!

InyinyaAgbaOku:


They will tell you to your face and go back and continue their I am not Igbo stance.

Some of you just don't get it.
If the chiefs are saying so, how come their masses aren't? Obviously, it's a scam

superlightning:


The idea intends achieving two things -

1. Determine those who identify as biafrans

2. Determine those who want a seperate Biafra republic. This is because not all Biafra minded Igbo want a new Biafra republic

That is IPOB's idea. I know these guys.

superlightning:


Mr. I-sabi-am-pass, all you have stated are sheer political gimmicks.

If I want to be a house of rep member in Lagos or i want to get an appointment or contract in Lagos, I may play the politics of been seen as a lagosian. Why? because tribe and religion is a strong political tool in Nigeria.

Stop creating a storm in a teacup.

Zik played that politics too of been zungeru by birth to be embraced by northerners. He gave his children Yoruba names to be accepted by the Yoruba. Its all POLITICS. Are you this naive? Nobody is a fool, we are know our ethnic boundaries but as humans, we embrace those who readily identify with us.

No non-igbo SS can dream of vying for governorship post in SE, but it does not stop them from wanting to identify with igbos. And for those who remain clinged to the notion of being culturally Igbo, you can't DIS-IGBO them. Let them be.