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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 12:13pm On Oct 10, 2018 |
Let's assume that we cap Ebere Eze against Libya and then something happens...Say he gets injured or his career doesn't go well (I won't wish for such on him) and we stop inviting him,the same people who were calling for his inclusion in the first place will b the same to accuse us of dumping him... 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:13pm On Oct 10, 2018 |
TheSuperNerd: What did Iwobi do before he was called to the national team? Nada That is exactly what I am talking about. The point is, many here lacks the foresight. Simple and short. No need for stories |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 12:15pm On Oct 10, 2018 |
Please thesupernerd help me with the name of the fb players the nff invited when the bf game was call off |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 12:18pm On Oct 10, 2018 |
forgiveness: Iwobi was called up in 2015. At that time we had failed to qualify for another afcon and we were on a rebuilding mission...so Iwobi's callup was understandable.. We are on a serious mission this time around..Maybe if we click the afcon ticket in Johannesburg next month we can cap the Josh Maja,Ejaria etc.. But if they get capped by England,we should just move on... They aren't the first neither will they be the last talented players to.emerge from England youth team 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:19pm On Oct 10, 2018 |
Icon4s: What did Iwobi do before he was called to the national team at that crucial time? The boy even almost changed the game against Egypt. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:20pm On Oct 10, 2018 |
forgiveness: The opposition told you then that the boy was not ready and even now that the boy cannot displace any of the current strikers. So what did and has tribalism got to do with that? 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:21pm On Oct 10, 2018 |
Danielnino00: That was just the third time we failed to qualify. Check your records. Thanks Na so Cameroon take lose Mbappe. Now, France dey win laurel because of am. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:21pm On Oct 10, 2018 |
Icon4s: Was Iwobi ready? ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by superbloke(m): 12:22pm On Oct 10, 2018 |
Icon4s:Thank you! Some guys here were making demaria gray seem like the next big star just to prove kelechi was useless last season, even when there was nothing spectacular about him asides showboating and selfish play. If Kelechi were to be foreign born, the same people would have been shouting for him to be invited and capped. But since he's already ours, he's ordinary. We just want to be inviting anybody that bears a Nigerian name and was born outside Nigeria. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:33pm On Oct 10, 2018 |
forgiveness: Iwobi's talent and potentials were so very obvious for everyone to see. I don't think any right thinking person here objected to his invitation. As at that time the Super Eagles was lacking in the AM position because even Mikel was playing DM at Chelsea and CM for the Super Eagles. Iwobi featured prominently in Arsenal's preseason tour. Iwobi was 19 and just got promoted to Arsenal's Senior team while Josh Maja was just 17 playing for Sundaland Youth team. All players do not have equal abilities. And also the need to quickly fill a gap in the team determines how quickly youngsters will get included. If someone like Iheanacho emerged at the time we had likes of Yakubu, Martins, Utaka, Osaze and Ike Uche as strikers you think he will get his cap as quickly as he did? Fact that Iheanacho and Iwobi got callups at 18/19 doesn't mean every other player should get same. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:34pm On Oct 10, 2018 |
We also called up a new player from the championship in Semi Ajayi. It shows we, at the very least, are trying to recruit some good quality out of the very many FBs out there. And I am for us capping as many as we can but the reality is that it won't happen that way. That is the truth. We have a team we are building upon and we cannot call up all those names you reeled out at the same time or within same period. Do you remember when the long list of FBs used to include Iwobi, Aina, Idowu, Ebuehi, Semi Ajayi (when he was at Arsenal youth), etc? Now look how far we have come... We got some of these now and so far our recruitment of these players have been largely vindicated. They are all contributing in their own ways to the good and growth of the team. But it all did not happen at once. Team building must be considered alongside the recruitmemt drive. It is not all that straightforward. The only negative I see now is missing out on capping Eze Ebere in this international window. He addresses a problem we have in the team. But now Rohr admits his mistake stylishly and now knows he would have to go through the wahala process of switching allegiance to Nigeria from England after the lad is capped for the England U-20s. And I believe even Ebere Eze is willing to switch as it is his dream to play for us according to the last time I read reports on his international aspirations. But we must make the first step by beginning his allegiance switch process and I hope we do. Now in conclusion... I understand England is a threat to us having some of these quality youngsters hence the need to beat England at their own game but I cannot say now that because of these, we must prioritise the FBs first and only above our other fine prospects of indigenous extraction that are now based in Europe. We must be balanced in our approach to both camps of prospects. Josh Maja is a fine prospect but so also is Awoniyi, Osimhen and a host of others. I would say that we make the most pressing issues in our team the topmost priority, before any other, among the foreign borns in our recruitment drive. If I were head of the scouting and recruitmemt team, this will be my approach. It would be targeting first the FB prospects that addresses the weakness in our team before considering going after any other FB prospect that only multiplies our options in our strong depts. Finito. forgiveness: 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by isan(m): 12:35pm On Oct 10, 2018 |
it seems CAF has kicked out sierra Leone from AFCON qualifier their double header with Ghana has been cancelled |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:35pm On Oct 10, 2018 |
forgiveness: Iwobi was ready to fill a vacant AM position left by Silvester Igboun and Sonne Aluko. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:40pm On Oct 10, 2018 |
Iwobi was called up not just as a prospect but also to address a problem in the team in the Attacking Midfield roles. Oliseh picked that up when he called up the lad. But in the case of Josh Maja... We have a couple of others also doing very well in their leagues of his age range like Osimhen and Awoniyi plus the mighty fact that we are well stocked in the attacking Dept. Josh cannot displace anyone in that team. Fact. But Iwobi could slot in because we were lacking options in the creative dept. forgiveness: 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:44pm On Oct 10, 2018 |
Icon4s: Chaaaaiiii... Odogwu'm... Well said Again Chief! 2 Likes
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:46pm On Oct 10, 2018 |
superbloke: Exactly! 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:50pm On Oct 10, 2018 |
Icon4s: A 19 year old Iheanacho for no smell even ballboy for wia those men dem dey not to talk of debut sef....... Martins that was our Weapon of mass destruction then... Yakubu called the Yak... Utaka nicknamed the attacker... Osaze the flying russinigerian... Ike Uche the dazzler!! Haba!!! Nacho for wait tire.... Lol 2 Likes
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:52pm On Oct 10, 2018 |
Okay... But I need to be clear about what you mean by "bf". Can't wrap my head around what it means right now. Lol maidaboi: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:53pm On Oct 10, 2018 |
TheSuperNerd: E come be Josh Maja. Na so dem dey invite players? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:54pm On Oct 10, 2018 |
TheSuperNerd: Maybe he meant Biafra. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:57pm On Oct 10, 2018 |
TheSuperNerd: Exactly, invite players that will address the immediate weakness in the team. Whether foreign born or locally born |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:57pm On Oct 10, 2018 |
TheSuperNerd: Exactly, invite players that will address the immediate weaknesses in the team. Whether foreign born or locally born |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:59pm On Oct 10, 2018 |
Icon4s: What did Iwobi do that made his talent obvious? Nada He was an academy player. Fact Josh already played for Sunderland in EFL cup and made the bench in the EPL. That tells alot about a 17 years old lad. We were never lacking in the AMF position because Sone was inform of his life and Ajagun was still with Panathiniakos in 2015. There was never need for an academy player but we went for him. Josh Maja, Eze, Billing, Ejara, Lookman etc have made more names for themselves than Iwobi ever made before he was called. Foresight is the problem. 4 Likes
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:02pm On Oct 10, 2018 |
forgiveness: Well, you cannot blame Cameroun. Mbappe was already being capped at U-17 level by France and he moved up the grades and even won the U-19 Euros with a generation that had Jean Kevin Augustin (RB Leipzig now), Lucas Tousart (Lyon now), Issa Diop (now at West Ham) and Alban Lafont (at Fiorentina now). That team was already in France's future plans. Cameroun had no chance unless you are saying they would have spotted Mbappe when he was like 12 years old... Lol... And bring him into their U-13 team. Truth is there is no guarantee to what the future of a player holds. You only speak now because of hindsight which is so easy to do. In any case... Cameroun still conquered Africa without Mbappe and a host of their star names who boycotted the team, did they not? ![]() 3 Likes
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:06pm On Oct 10, 2018 |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:07pm On Oct 10, 2018 |
forgiveness: If you say you did not see Iwobi's obvious talent even before he was invited, well then........ 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:20pm On Oct 10, 2018 |
TheSuperNerd: Mbappe father approach Cameroon but he was ignored. We are talking about world stage, you are talking about Africa. Mbok! |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:26pm On Oct 10, 2018 |
Mbappe was always bound for France having began with their U-17s. He feels more French than anything. And Ehnn naa... I go talk the one wey dem manage win without am naa... Looolll... How Dem wan qualify for world cup sef when they had the Super Eagles with quality young stars and battle hardened lieutenants led by the mercurial Mikel standing in the way? How? ![]() Like I said, there is no guarantee in life. Every decision is a risk. It is a step of faith. No guarantees abound. Some will turn out great. Some won't. You are using hindsight now in Mbappe's case and equating it with foresight in Maja's case alone while you ignore foresight as regards the others like Samuel Chukwueze, Awoniyi, Osimhen, and a host of other quality young Nigerians. Josh Maja is just one out of several fine prospects and not the best or most outstanding and is also not what we need now so desperately. He is for the future but we also got a fine lineup of other future stars in his role. All our strikers will outdo the lad in league one football. Is league one now so big and highly rated?? Let him wait for his time. We have more pressing needs in the team. forgiveness: 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:45pm On Oct 10, 2018 |
Icon4s: You mean an academy player can to fill the position of Mikel Obi and Sone Aluko who were still in form of their lives? ![]() Iwobi never deserved to be called in the first place but today we are reaping the rewards courtesy of FB advocates like us. ![]() Prior to his call, you fought against anything foreign breed, not to talk of an academy player. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:02pm On Oct 10, 2018 |
forgiveness: Mikel was not being played as an AM then. It was Aluko in the last days of Keshi. Mikel started playing AM under Siasia's 2016 Olympics team. Iwobi was introduced in 2015 alongside Silvester Igboun. Aluko and his club were related and Oliseh came in with a policy of no lower league player in the Super Eagles. I am sure u recall. So Aluko's position in the team became vacant and Iwobi came in and made us not miss Aluko. Now on the issue of foreign born. I hope u know, or maybe u had not joined this forum, I was about the first here to recommend Iwobi to the SE. Even then he was no longer an academy player but a senior team player. You have once again started with ur gimmick of pulling down a player just to make ur point. And I have always opined that only foreign born players who can add value should be invited. I am only against the indiscriminate call of every Dick and Harry born in Europe. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Isahalbash(m): 2:10pm On Oct 10, 2018 |
Icon4s: He meant Burkina Faso. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:13pm On Oct 10, 2018 |
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