nihilistjnr:


Actually Its not blasphemy. I actually made a very nuanced argument about this early last year.

Talent alone is not enough to drive you to have a phenomenal career and Hazard is the most unserious bastard....

The difference between Messi and Hazard is more in mentality rather than ability.

Another factor is the supporting cast

I can bet my left testicle, Messi cannot replicate his magic playing this Chelsea team.

Let Hazard go to Madrid or Barca and let us see

so in your opinion, hazard would score 91 goals in a calendar year if he was playing for Barça right? he will also dribble seven players against getafe before scoring a solo goal (since you implied that it's more about his mentality than his ability). the truth is that if you remove goals from Messi's game, he is still the best assist provider in the world, still the best dribbler in the world, still one of the best passers of the ball, still the best chance creator in the world, do you want me to continue? if you watch Barça matches regularly, you would notice that Messi spends more time deep in midfield than he does in attack

Away from football. Now this is what we call diss track. Sarkodie Na legend. The guy murder shatta wale.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqIfDUjPh4s

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Nihilistjr, Ibime, Chelseafan1, dopejemi,diggz..

nihilistjnr:


Let Messi come and score 91 goals playing in this Chelsea team make I bend.

in fact, Messi should start by doing it with Argentina.

with Sarri as coach

or have you forgotten we have enter new era

raumdeuter:
If you notice nihilist is not comparing Hazard with ronaldo his idol

He is deliberately trying to rubbish Messi by comparing Hazard to him

Nihilist can we say Hazard and Ronaldo are the same

You really dey intelligent egbon.

Nihilist is a scam I swear

nihilistjnr:


You made reference to FIFA 19 ratings

Hazard top

Messi bottom

Is Messi that far out of reach of Hazard?

it doesn't look like that to me.

Of course these are just game ratings, and I only brought them up because you said FIFA 19.

simply means Hazard with goals (better shooting stats) will be best player in the world (or at least highest rated)

hensben:
Away from football. Now this is what we call diss track. Sarkodie Na legend. The guy murder shatta wale.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqIfDUjPh4s

Cc:
Nihilistjr, Ibime, Chelseafan1, dopejemi,diggz..

Did he rap in English or that stupid language?

nihilistjnr:


Let Messi come and score 91 goals playing in this Chelsea team make I bend.

in fact, Messi should start by doing it with Argentina.

last time i check he is their leading top scorer...and if you think he hasn't achieve anything with them then don't ever mention hazard third place finish in the world cup

Excallibur:
last time i check he is their leading top scorer...and if you think he hasn't achieve anything with them then don't ever mention hazard third place finish in the world cup

Let Messi win something with Argentina first na?

shebi supporting cast doesn't matter?

yeye people

BlueAngel444:

mehn free that guy, even if I said Hazard has better defensive contribution than Messi, in response to that cuntinho he will still frog jump and type trash.

so what's the basic job of an attacker (aside things like chance creation, assist provision, goals, defence splitting passes)? so in your mind things like physicality and defensive contributions are what an attacker should possess. it's like saying Navas is a better passer of the ball than oblak and de gea so therefore he's as good as oblak or de gea when the core requirements of a good goalkeeper is to make saves

nihilistjnr:


You made reference to FIFA 19 ratings

Hazard top

Messi bottom

Is Messi that far out of reach of Hazard?

it doesn't look like that to me.

Of course these are just game ratings, and I only brought them up because you said FIFA 19.

FIFA19 ratings or not, Hazard is definitely not on the same talent level as Messi. He is not even more talented than Neymar.

Even if you take out Messi's goals like someone suggested, he still beats Hazard. So stop this nonsense.

Elnino4ladies:




Did he rap in English or that stupid language?

Both, but more of English.

mentality and manager is important
without fegurson and Ronaldo personal drive he won't be where he is today.

pep saw Messi's mentality to dribble players and look for an opportunity to score and really this is the difference between Messi and Iniesta, Iniesta will dribble, move into tiny spaces to create opportunities for his team to score.

honestly Hazard DGAF what people think, and he is all for the team and I respect him for that because he is a reminder of what football used to be and why some of us first fell in love with the team game.

lest I forget, remove goals from Ororo's game and he's just a portuguese odion ighalo

Coutinho14:
so what's the basic job of an attacker (aside things like chance creation, assist provision, goals, defence splitting passes)? so in your mind things like physicality and defensive contributions are what an attacker should possess. it's like saying Navas is a better passer of the ball than oblak and de gea so therefore he's as good as oblak or de gea when the core requirements of a good goalkeeper is to make saves

dumbass was that my reply to you.

pkasso:
FIFA19 ratings or not, Hazard is definitely not on the same talent level as Messi. He is not even more talented than Neymar.

Even if you take out Messi's goals like someone suggested, he still beats Hazard. So stop this nonsense.

Talent wise Messi and Hazard are very similar if not the same exactly.


Nobody with 2 functioning eyes would look at Messi and Hazard play and not see the striking similarities in their style Of play.

The 2 major differences between Messi and Hazard are:

1. Application - or how they use that talent, and
2. Supporting Cast.


Messi can never achieve what he does in Barca in this current Chelsea team. Never. Aguero is arguably a better striker than any striker Chelsea has ever had in the history of the club and Messi cannot even drag him to any sort of international trophy.

Now imagine what Hazard has suffered playing with Morata and Yoko last year.

some of Hazard's Chelsea team mates are players that were deemed not good enough to play with Messi at club level and chased away - Fabregas, and Pedro for example.

So Hazard is playing with aloku barca products sef.

Let Messi come and play with Victor Moses and Emerson Palmwine first, make I hear word

pkasso:
We are all witnessing a masterclass in amala-turning today Chef Nihilist taking on the master himself, the one with the magic omorogun, Pa Ramuzaki The techniques and styles at work here, mehn. I troway salute. Shey the yam flour na go finish like this? After all the turning, na who go provide the ewedu and gbegiri?


Stay tuned

if you didn't know before , know it now that raumdeuter dey learn work for where nihilist dey for Amala turning

nihilistjnr:


Let Messi win something with Argentina first na?

shebi supporting cast doesn't matter?

yeye people

hazard came to a chelsea team that were champions of europe... The season chelsea last won the league, kante won pfa... Last season kante and willian where chelsea's best players. Which supporting cast does he want again

pkasso:
FIFA19 ratings or not, Hazard is definitely not on the same talent level as Messi. He is not even more talented than Neymar.

Even if you take out Messi's goals like someone suggested, he still beats Hazard. So stop this nonsense.

you know that rating is based on performance while talent is based on skill, so enlighten us which skill does Messi have that Hazard doesn't. It's most likely very few and also likely there are skills Hazard has Messi doesn't have.

You make it seem like the margin is so vast.

Excallibur:
hazard came to a chelsea team that were champions of europe... The season chelsea last won the league, kante won pfa... Last season kante and willian where chelsea's best players. Which supporting cast does he want again

What supporting cast does Messi want again in Argentina?

Let him go and win with them.

Or you think it's a coincidence that the season Xavi left Barca, is the last time Messi held UCL trophy?

Go and ask Messi which supporting cast he wants again when Roma was giving him bingo style last season.

yeye people

nihilistjnr:


What supporting cast does Messi want again in Argentina?

Let him go and win with them.

Or you think it's a coincidence that the season Xavi left Barca, is the last time Messi held UCL trophy?

Go and ask Messi which supporting cast he wants again when Roma was giving him bingo style last season.

yeye people

Lets focus on Hazard and Ronaldo

Hazard and Ronaldo what is the difference? Hazard is probably a better player save for the drive, application and the support cast

raumdeuter:


Lets focus on Hazard and Ronaldo

Hazard and Ronaldo what is the difference? Hazard is probably a better player save for the drive and the support cast

I prefer to talk about Messi for now because he is closer in style and stature to Hazard.

So hazard needs xavi , iniesta ,kroos, modric, eriksen, ozil, isco and all the support cast europe can muster to qualify chelsea to the champions league. Something they had been doing every year for the 10 years before he came ... Messi may not score 91 goals in chelsea but am sure as hell leicester will not have a premier and arsenal will be one fa cup less if he was there

hensben:
Both, but more of English.

Okay.... I will check it out

hensben:
Both, but more of English.

Okay.... I will check it out

Excallibur:
So hazard needs xavi , iniesta ,kroos, modric, eriksen, ozil, isco and all the support cast europe can muster to qualify chelsea to the champions league. Something they had been doing every year for the 10 years before he came ... Messi may not score 91 goals in chelsea but am sure as hell leicester will not have a premier and arsenal will be one fa cup less if he was there

This is a pretty stupid thing to say when Hazard has won EPL twice, and finished in the top 4 on two other occasions in the 6 seasons he's been with us.

So he doesn't need Xavi to qualify for UCL.

Let Messi win UCL without Xavi first make we see, or win a trophy with Argentina before you say supporting cast doesn't matter

homesteady:


As of last season, when Neymar went to PSG -

Chelsea - 5 UCL winners
PSG - 2 UCL winners.

Why are you guys now saying Hazard is surrounded by bad players? Shey been a UCL winner is now an indicator for being a good player.

if raumdeuter starts using that logic Against hazard, you will support him.

nihilistjnr:


I prefer to talk about Messi for now because he is closer in style and stature to Hazard.

Actually Hazard is closer in style and stature to Adanma Traore. Same skillsets and physique

That this is even up for discussion is surprising

Messi scored more than half of Hazard's total career league goals in just one season, and some comedians are saying they are on the same talent level?

Ahh!! We should start categorizing Hazard as one of the all time greats ohh! Nihilstjnr, abeg where should we rank him? because I think he would have scored more goals than Pele if he had the same supporting cast.

nihilistjnr:


Talent wise Messi and Hazard are very similar if not the same exactly.


Nobody with 2 functioning eyes would look at Messi and Hazard play and not see the striking similarities in their style Of play.

The 2 major differences between Messi and Hazard are:

1. Application - or how they use that talent, and
2. Supporting Cast.


Messi can never achieve what he does in Barca in this current Chelsea team. Never. Aguero is arguably a better striker than any striker Chelsea has ever had in the history of the club and Messi cannot even drag him to any sort of international trophy.

Now imagine what Hazard has suffered playing with Morata and Yoko last year.

some of Hazard's Chelsea team mates are players that were deemed not good enough to play with Messi at club level and chased away - Fabregas, and Pedro for example.

So Hazard is playing with aloku barca products sef.

Let Messi come and play with Victor Moses and Emerson Palmwine first, make I hear word

Similarity in style of play doesn't necessarily translate to equality in quality Anthony Knockaert and Felipe Anderson have similar styles of play to Hazard, does that mean they are on the same level. Hazard is similar to Messi but Messi performs at a higher level. Messi has a higher volume of production. This is what separates the real deal from pretenders.

Hazard is the captain of a star-studded Belgian national team. What has he achieved with those group of players, some of which are the best in the world. Only a third-place finish at the World Cup. And you say someone like that would replicate Messi's feats at Barca.

Messi has basically had to carry this Barca team on his back in the last few years. No Xavi, no Alves. Neymar left, Iniesta suffered a decline in form and quality before finally leaving. Pique is a joke these days and Messi is stuck with a wastepipe in Suarez as striker. How is that any different to what Hazard has at Chelsea?

I mean the man practically plays CM these days and still manages to rack up goals and assists. The day Hazard does that with little or no support is when I will agree he is on the level as Messi talent-wise.


I swear, I don't know why I'm even doing this.

pkasso:
Similarity in style of play doesn't necessarily translate to equality in quality Anthony Knockaert and Felipe Anderson have similar styles of play to Hazard, does that mean they are on the same level. Hazard is similar to Messi but Messi performs at a higher level. Messi has a higher volume of production. This is what separates the real deal from pretenders.

Hazard is the captain of a star-studded Belgian national team. What has he achieved with those group of players, some of which are the best in the world. Only a third-place finish at the World Cup. And you say someone like that would replicate Messi's feats at Barca.

Messi has basically had to carry this Barca team on his back in the last few years. No Xavi, no Alves. Neymar left, Iniesta suffered a decline in form and quality before finally leaving. Pique is a joke these days and Messi is stuck with a wastepipe in Suarez as striker. How is that any different to what Hazard has at Chelsea?

I mean the man practically plays CM these days and still manages to rack up goals and assists. The day Hazard does that with little or no support is when I will agree he is on the level as Messi talent-wise.


I swear, I don't know why I'm even doing this.

Messi carried Barca from where to where?

Is he a BRT bus?

nihilistjnr:



This is a pretty stupid thing to say when Hazard has won EPL twice, and finished in the top 4 on two other occasions in the 6 seasons he's been with us.

So he doesn't need Xavi to qualify for UCL.

Let Messi win UCL without Xavi first make we see, or win a trophy with Argentina before you say supporting cast doesn't matter

Your statement would have sounded more sensible if you had said Iniesta and not Xavi. Xavi was a peripheral figure in our 2015 UCL triumph, which we would have still won if he didn't play.

nihilistjnr:



This is a pretty stupid thing to say when Hazard has won EPL twice, and finished in the top 4 on two other occasions in the 6 seasons he's been with us.

So he doesn't need Xavi to qualify for UCL.

Let Messi win UCL without Xavi first make we see, or win a trophy with Argentina before you say supporting cast doesn't matter

who said supporting cast doesn't matter...what was chelsea using to qualify to UCL 10 times in a row that hazard can't use to qualify 6 times in a row