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Re: Should People Have The Right To Kill Themselves? by tintingz(m): 8:42pm On Oct 24, 2018
johnydon22:


Human life is an existential horror. Take for instance, countries like Japan have more suicide rate than Uganda.

The more intelligent you are, the more likely you are to commit suicide.

It seems the more humans know or understand, the mind begins to seek self destruction
And the more ignorant ones is the more he/she can commit suicide. E.g Religious terrorists.
Re: Should People Have The Right To Kill Themselves? by Martinez19(m): 8:59pm On Oct 24, 2018
johnydon22:


Human life is an existential horror. Take for instance, countries like Japan have more suicide rate than Uganda.

The more intelligent you are, the more likely you are to commit suicide.

It seems the more humans know or understand, the mind begins to seek self destruction
It depends sha, though it's true that intelligent and more matured minds have a better grasp of life and know that all is ultimately pointless and vanity. When our earth eventually collapses into the sun, what will be use of all of human endeavours? cry

In developed society with great but "immature" minds, there is a high pressure to succeed academically and get the good life. Maybe that's what mainly contributes to suicide. I stand to be corrected.

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Re: Should People Have The Right To Kill Themselves? by johnydon22(m): 10:44pm On Oct 24, 2018
Martinez19:
It depends sha, though it's true that intelligent and more matured minds have a better grasp of life and know that all is ultimately pointless and vanity. When our earth eventually collapses into the sun, what will be use of all of human endeavours? cry
4.5billion years approximately from now for that to happen, doubt if there will be such a thing as 'the human race' by then


In developed society with great but "immature" minds, there is a high pressure to succeed academically and get the good life. Maybe that's what mainly contributes to suicide. I stand to be corrected.
What do you mean "great" but immature minds?
Re: Should People Have The Right To Kill Themselves? by hahn(m): 10:55pm On Oct 24, 2018
johnydon22:
4.5billion years approximately from now for that to happen, doubt if there will be such a thing as 'the human race' by then

What do you mean "great" but immature minds?

They are great but immature noni undecided
Re: Should People Have The Right To Kill Themselves? by budaatum: 11:24pm On Oct 24, 2018
Martinez19:
People should have the right to end their life whether they have a good reason to or not. It's their life.
Funny enough, I disagree that "People should have the right". That statement is just odd since it implies a right someone has to give to one as opposed to a right one already has. More importantly though, the issue raises uglies where assisted life ending is concerned.

Assisted life ending, or assisted dying, as it's called, is when a person is so incapable of ending their life that they need help. It is illegal in UK so some people go off to Sweden for it. The problem with it is that the vulnerable could be killed off and the killer says they were asked to. The few instances where a partner has gone to Sweden to assist however, they have not been prosecuted on return.

On a personal note, ma, who is so active, is so afraid of pain and being in a vegetative state that years ago she asked me to help her die if she ever got in that state. I strongly informed her that she better do what she has to do before she can't kill herself. I, buda, would find it difficult to go on living knowing I killed ma!

Pa, on the other hand, having had enough at close to a hundred managed to check out all by himself. I was with him his last two years which kept him alive longer than otherwise, but as soon as I returned to UK and he knew I was not returning soon, he refused food and checked out. He was very practical about it and I knew he would so I never told him I was coming back to UK. But I was ill at the time, paralysed waist down, wasting away and trying to ensure I wasn't checked out myself! Pa, knowing him, would say he was sacrificing his life for mine.
Re: Should People Have The Right To Kill Themselves? by johnydon22(m): 9:47am On Oct 25, 2018
budaatum:

Funny enough, I disagree that "People should have the right". That statement is just odd since it implies a right someone has to give to one as opposed to a right one already has.
do we come with an inherent right or are all our rights granted to us by an authority? (Because I don't understand this statement)
Re: Should People Have The Right To Kill Themselves? by Martinez19(m): 12:13pm On Oct 25, 2018
johnydon22:
4.5billion years approximately from now for that to happen, doubt if there will be such a thing as 'the human race' by then

What do you mean "great" but immature minds?
Great = highly intelligent with impressive IQ.
Immature = not having enough grasp of life and what's really important and being heavily caught up in the vanities of human life.

@bold

That's bad. So one of the very few, if not the only, fountain of life in the universe won't last permanently? cry
Re: Should People Have The Right To Kill Themselves? by Readwarn(m): 12:16pm On Oct 25, 2018
Of course you have the right to end your life. The audacity of any government to tell you otherwise still beats me

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Re: Should People Have The Right To Kill Themselves? by Martinez19(m): 12:29pm On Oct 25, 2018
budaatum:

Funny enough, I disagree that "People should have the right". That statement is just odd since it implies a right someone has to give to one as opposed to a right one already has. More importantly though, the issue raises uglies where assisted life ending is concerned.

Assisted life ending, or assisted dying, as it's called, is when a person is so incapable of ending their life that they need help. It is illegal in UK so some people go off to Sweden for it. The problem with it is that the vulnerable could be killed off and the killer says they were asked to. The few instances where a partner has gone to Sweden to assist however, they have not been prosecuted on return.

On a personal note, ma, who is so active, is so afraid of pain and being in a vegetative state that years ago she asked me to help her die if she ever got in that state. I strongly informed her that she better do what she has to do before she can't kill herself. I, buda, would find it difficult to go on living knowing I killed ma!

Pa, on the other hand, having had enough at close to a hundred managed to check out all by himself. I was with him his last two years which kept him alive longer than otherwise, but as soon as I returned to UK and he knew I was not returning soon, he refused food and checked out. He was very practical about it and I knew he would so I never told him I was coming back to UK. But I was ill at the time, paralysed waist down, wasting away and trying to ensure I wasn't checked out myself! Pa, knowing him, would say he was sacrificing his life for mine.
Okay fine, I state that people have the right to take their own lives. Sorry to hear about Ma and Pa. Hope your condition is okay now and you are well adjusted?

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Re: Should People Have The Right To Kill Themselves? by vaxx: 12:35pm On Oct 25, 2018
Readwarn:
Of course you have the right to end your life. The audacity of any government to tell you otherwise still beats me
who can put the dead on trials? But that should not give us the liberty.

My answer is still no anyway....

Even when life is at its worst, it is still better than putting end to it. Because there is always something to look forward to, even if those things can seem small and ordinary sometimes. Most of those who wants to end their life lacks perspective, and most are intensely melodramatic about the scope of their problems. Almost every problem has a solution, and if you haven’t found one, you aren’t looking hard enough.

Are you born out of your own will? NO why should you have the right to end it? You are human being remmeber?

Re: Should People Have The Right To Kill Themselves? by Readwarn(m): 2:23pm On Oct 25, 2018
vaxx:
who can put the dead on trials? But that should not give us the liberty.

My answer is still no anyway....

Even when life is at its worst, it is still better than putting end to it. Because there is always something to look forward to, even if those things can seem small and ordinary sometimes. Most if those who wants to end their life lacks perspective, and most are intensely melodramatic about the scope of their problems. Almost every problem has a solution, and if you haven’t found one, you aren’t looking hard enough.

Are you born out of your own will? NO why should you have the right to end it? You are human being remmeber?



To someone who wants to take his or her life.. Suicide is the only solution. It's funny how some people won't allow that as though its affects them negatively

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Re: Should People Have The Right To Kill Themselves? by Readwarn(m): 2:23pm On Oct 25, 2018
vaxx:
who can put the dead on trials? But that should not give us the liberty.

My answer is still no anyway....

Even when life is at its worst, it is still better than putting end to it. Because there is always something to look forward to, even if those things can seem small and ordinary sometimes. Most if those who wants to end their life lacks perspective, and most are intensely melodramatic about the scope of their problems. Almost every problem has a solution, and if you haven’t found one, you aren’t looking hard enough.

Are you born out of your own will? NO why should you have the right to end it? You are human being remmeber?



To someone who wants to take his or her life.. Suicide is the only solution. It's funny how some people won't allow that as though it affects them negatively
Re: Should People Have The Right To Kill Themselves? by Evangkatsoulis: 4:22pm On Oct 25, 2018
CAPSLOCKED:


I BELIEVE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ALLOW PEOPLE CHOOSE THEY DON'T WANT TO LIVE ANYMORE.. BECAUSE IN THE FIRST PLACE THEY NEVER ASKED TO BE BORN SO IT SHOULD BE POSSIBLE TO LEAVE WHENEVER ONE IS FED UP WITH LIVING.
SUICIDE SHOULD BE A FUNDAMENTAL HUMAN RIGHT.

Err, how do you "ask" people to be born?
Re: Should People Have The Right To Kill Themselves? by Evangkatsoulis: 4:25pm On Oct 25, 2018
malvisguy212:
I have Read many biography of superstar and how hard live is for them as a little kid even as a young adults..... I guess, they should've just ended there live long time ago. hey!!! victor moses should've just ended his live after the death of his parents, but alas, he grew in FAITH and Become successful in football.

Wetin him football don contribute to humanity?
Re: Should People Have The Right To Kill Themselves? by budaatum: 8:06pm On Oct 25, 2018
Martinez19:
Okay fine, I state that people have the right to take their own lives. Sorry to hear about Ma and Pa. Hope your condition is okay now and you are well adjusted?
Ma's live and kicking. Pa died 2 years ago. And I'm good thanks.

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Re: Should People Have The Right To Kill Themselves? by budaatum: 8:12pm On Oct 25, 2018
johnydon22:
do we come with an inherent right or are all our rights granted to us by an authority? (Because I don't understand this statement)
Well, just think about it. Who's permission do I need to kill myself?

A right, I would think, is something society agrees to confer on one. Society has no say however in whether I terminate my life or not. Society can confer a right to life though by ensuring I am kept alive by providing healthcare. So, yes, granted by an authority would be correct.
Re: Should People Have The Right To Kill Themselves? by Nobody: 11:10am On Dec 23, 2018
Yeah, the right to die should be made legal
Re: Should People Have The Right To Kill Themselves? by johnydon22(m): 11:13am On Dec 23, 2018
ralphyoung123:
Making suicide legal would be devaluing life, so don't expect any government to make suicide legal, but that doesn't stop anyone from taking his life, punishing a suicidal person will fuel his suicidal desires more, so the government hardly punishes them. Committing suicide is easy if we really want to, it won't be made legal and we don't need it to be made legal. We already have the right to if we want to
But if you try and fail you will in fact be prosecuted. That is where the legality comes in.

It is not exactly that easy to commit suicide.

You may misjudge the thrust of the knife, get caught while still suffocating from hanging etc.
Re: Should People Have The Right To Kill Themselves? by LordReed(m): 12:59pm On Dec 23, 2018
I personal don't think it helps to consider this as a legal problem, conversely I do think attempted suicide should be decriminalised, then help/counseling be a matter of policy so that those who contemplate it would have a place to go to seek help.

Pressed on the issue I would say people should have the right. Better to go with dignity than to fall to your inner demons.

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Re: Should People Have The Right To Kill Themselves? by CAPSLOCKED: 1:22pm On Dec 23, 2018
LordReed:
I personal don't think it helps to consider this as a legal problem, conversely I do think attempted suicide should be decriminalised, then help/counseling be a matter of policy so that those who contemplate it would have a place to go to seek help.

Pressed on the issue I would say people should have the right. Better to go with dignity than to fall to your inner demons.

I'M TELLING YOU. BETTER TO KILL YOURSELF THAN GO ABOUT CAUSING CHAOS AND KILLING OTHER PEOPLE ILLEGALLY.

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Re: Should People Have The Right To Kill Themselves? by Nobody: 3:46pm On Dec 26, 2018
johnydon22:
But if you try and fail you will in fact be prosecuted. That is where the legality comes in.

It is not exactly that easy to commit suicide.

You may misjudge the thrust of the knife, get caught while still suffocating from hanging etc.
Yeah, the right to die should be legal. None of us consented to coming here
Re: Should People Have The Right To Kill Themselves? by Anas09: 8:53pm On Dec 26, 2018
CAPSLOCKED:


GOOD REASON TO TRY VERY HARD NOT TO FAIL. smiley



I'VE OBSERVED THAT ONCE GOD IS MENTIONED IN ANY DISCUSSION NOTHING MAKES SENSE ANYMORE.
LOOK, WE UNDERSTAND THAT GOD IS USUALLY THE EXCUSE FOR THE REGULAR CHRISTIAN'S MENTAL INABILITY TO ENGAGE IN RATIONAL DISCUSS SO WHY DON'T YOU JUST WATCH AND LEARN FROM THE STANDS, OR WALK AWAY ENTIRELY? undecided
Re: Should People Have The Right To Kill Themselves? by Anas09: 8:59pm On Dec 26, 2018
Gloriawinning:
No, because Bible said in this life you will experience trials and tribulations but be of good cheer i have overcome the world!!
As a strong Christian who is growing deeper daily I'm at a point where I am so steadfast in my faith that I hardly get discouraged, all my trials sometimes make me smile cos
Holy Spirit would already walk me through how I will overcome.
Praying for anyone in a bad situation right now, Jesus is the answer.
There's nothing like 'Strong Christian'. It's either you are a Christian or you are not. There's no half Christian.
Re: Should People Have The Right To Kill Themselves? by Anas09: 9:17pm On Dec 26, 2018
vaxx:
The law was abducted from British law. But anyway culturally is an abomination too in Nigeria.....Yoruba people for instance regards it as taboo and anyone who dare it successfully will have is family properly clean( traditionally ) in igbo land it is refer to alu .
Mehn, dat is some serious shiiiit in my culture. If someone commits suicide in place, fresh palm fronts are tight in front of his or her compound signifying 'Everyone keep off'. The family becomes an anathema. Anyone who Lives to see what happens to family members and still goes ahead to commit suicide in my place has some serious problem.

Since my life, i have known only of one suicide case in my village and was a non-indigene. Even at that, the fresh palm front were tight at the compound he lived. Everyone quickly moved out of there, regarding the place as cursed.

The way it's talked abt will scare even the already dead.
Re: Should People Have The Right To Kill Themselves? by Anas09: 9:40pm On Dec 26, 2018
hahn:


Where was your god? undecided
Heartless beast, that's what you are. I'm glad you are raising kids, you may just understand how it feels to be inhuman towards others.
Re: Should People Have The Right To Kill Themselves? by Anas09: 9:46pm On Dec 26, 2018
budaatum:

Funny enough, I disagree that "People should have the right". That statement is just odd since it implies a right someone has to give to one as opposed to a right one already has. More importantly though, the issue raises uglies where assisted life ending is concerned.

Assisted life ending, or assisted dying, as it's called, is when a person is so incapable of ending their life that they need help. It is illegal in UK so some people go off to Sweden for it. The problem with it is that the vulnerable could be killed off and the killer says they were asked to. The few instances where a partner has gone to Sweden to assist however, they have not been prosecuted on return.

On a personal note, ma, who is so active, is so afraid of pain and being in a vegetative state that years ago she asked me to help her die if she ever got in that state. I strongly informed her that she better do what she has to do before she can't kill herself. I, buda, would find it difficult to go on living knowing I killed ma!

Pa, on the other hand, having had enough at close to a hundred managed to check out all by himself. I was with him his last two years which kept him alive longer than otherwise, but as soon as I returned to UK and he knew I was not returning soon, he refused food and checked out. He was very practical about it and I knew he would so I never told him I was coming back to UK. But I was ill at the time, paralysed waist down, wasting away and trying to ensure I wasn't checked out myself! Pa, knowing him, would say he was sacrificing his life for mine.
So, did you get your waist back? Not funny.

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Re: Should People Have The Right To Kill Themselves? by Anas09: 9:49pm On Dec 26, 2018
Readwarn:

To someone who wants to take his or her life.. Suicide is the only solution. It's funny how some people won't allow that as though its affects them negatively

How is Life yours? When asleep a five years old can kill you, yer you claim Life is yours?
Re: Should People Have The Right To Kill Themselves? by Anas09: 9:52pm On Dec 26, 2018
LordReed:
I personal don't think it helps to consider this as a legal problem, conversely I do think attempted suicide should be decriminalised, then help/counseling be a matter of policy so that those who contemplate it would have a place to go to seek help.

Pressed on the issue I would say people should have the right. Better to go with dignity than to fall to your inner demons.
So, you finally accept there are demons and they are responsible for people's stupid acts?
Re: Should People Have The Right To Kill Themselves? by LordReed(m): 10:18pm On Dec 26, 2018
Anas09:

So, you finally accept there are demons and they are responsible for people's stupid acts?

LoL! That is just a figure of speech.

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Re: Should People Have The Right To Kill Themselves? by budaatum: 3:03am On Dec 27, 2018
Anas09:

So, did you get your waist back? Not funny.
Of course I got my waist back Anas, as I described here.
Re: Should People Have The Right To Kill Themselves? by Anas09: 7:47am On Dec 27, 2018
budaatum:

Of course I got my waist back Anas, as I described here.
Glory to Jesus for that. Stay healthy.

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Re: Should People Have The Right To Kill Themselves? by LordReed(m): 7:54am On Dec 27, 2018
budaatum:
But I was ill at the time, paralysed waist down, wasting away and trying to ensure I wasn't checked out myself! Pa, knowing him, would say he was sacrificing his life for mine.

Wow budaa hope you are back to full function.

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