Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by deomelo: 1:56pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
So, after PMB, VP Osinbajo should just pack his load and just exit for any ibo man to walk inside Aso Rock and claim presidency?
Where were they when the SW/ACN risked everything and fought to make PMB the president of Nigeria?? Was that a free and ZERO reward effort by the SW in favor of the SE to just walk in and claim exactly what they did not work for.?
The must obviously think the SW is full of mumu people.
ibo people are of course not known for realistic and rational thoughts, their flawed sense of entitlement and eating where they did not plant any seed gets too comical for comedy. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by RealityShot: 2:38pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
Benekruku:
Anything can rule Nigeria so far its not an Eastern man
If its SS, Fine!
Even a Kenyan, Good to go why not an eastern man? |
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by RealityShot: 2:43pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
Gangster1ms:
Was Goodluck Jonathan not from ss? Ahbeg use ur sense first b4 typing ![undecided](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/undecided.png) yes he was.. how many tenures did he do? have considered that south south sponsored Buhari via Amaechi? whether you like it or not; southsouth must complete their 8 year double tenure. Just like west and north have done. otherwise, trouble. i may not use my sense but its my opinion. So shoove your insult in your tea and drink it. ![tongue](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/tongue.png) 1 Like |
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by Naijiant: 2:46pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
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Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by MrSly(m): 3:03pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
post=72472679:
Haba, only the thieves and troublemakers among us can say this concerning the President despite everything he his doing for us, things that the rogue and corrupt party (PDP) never did in their tenure. We sane and true igbos know what we want. Go vote for your Atikuloot in peace. ..........Joe Igbokwe. May Buhari keep his good work in ur life alone. May life give u Buhari treatment. Say Amen if you truly believe he has been working as you claim. |
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by MANNABBQGRILLS: 3:26pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
To you above....
Shioor!
Stale!! 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by femmy2010(m): 3:27pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
post=72472635: Lol , No human being can decide a whole ethnic group FATE, apart from God. Don't sweat it! Nigeria belong to us ALL. MAZI BOLT can . |
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by kettykin: 3:50pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
RealityShot: why not an eastern man? It is igbo complex. The igbos rose from the shackles of the civil war and the following scorch earth policies to beat this people in every area of human endeavor. So they would rather vote satan than have an igbo man rule |
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by obailala(m): 3:54pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
0monnak0da:
Nothing tasteless about what he said Provide a quotation of what EXACTLY was tasteless. I will provide quotes from other Igbo leaders that are similar He said that Yoruba should vote for theirs using a well known Yoruba proverb To call that proverb tasteless is an insult to our heritage There are certain statements that should never come from a person who should be an educated and enlightened statesman; there's something called political correctness in speech. Don't you think it's rather ridiculous that your justification for such poor choice of words is that "some Igbo leaders also made similar statements"?... How exactly does that make it right?... Anyway, I forget too quickly that we have a shithole for a country where even the most lettered don't think there's anything wrong with publicly making tribal or racial remarks. |
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by simplycarro: 3:55pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
Buhari will do his 2nd term
Osinbajo/Fashola-El Rufai will win after that
If you don’t want, carry your load to Cameroon 1 Like |
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by RealityShot: 3:59pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
kettykin:
It is igbo complex. The igbos rose from the shackles of the civil war and the following scorch earth policies to beat this people in every area of human endeavor. So they would rather vote satan than have an igbo man rule ![cheesy](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cheesy.png) LOL |
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by 0monnak0da: 4:18pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
obailala: There are certain statements that should never come from a person who should be an educated and enlightened statesman; there's something called political correctness in speech.
Don't you think it's rather ridiculous that your justification for such poor choice of words is that "some Igbo leaders also made similar statements"?... How exactly does that make it right?... Anyway, I forget too quickly that we have a shithole for a country where even the most lettered don't think there's anything wrong with publicly making tribal or racial remarks. Quotation What statements EXACTLY? I see nothing wrong with what I read so maybe you read something different QUOTATION? |
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by 0monnak0da: 4:22pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
obailala: There are certain statements that should never come from a person who should be an educated and enlightened statesman; there's something called political correctness in speech.
Don't you think it's rather ridiculous that your justification for such poor choice of words is that "some Igbo leaders also made similar statements"?... How exactly does that make it right?... Anyway, I forget too quickly that we have a shithole for a country where even the most lettered don't think there's anything wrong with publicly making tribal or racial remarks. First of all open a dictionary and check the meaning of TRIBAL The Yoruba are not a tribe. I need to know the WORDS exactly that you are talking about I am not sure if we are discussing the same words |
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by Martin0(m): 4:28pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
gypsey: dem Igbos go come for you oo! ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) make them come na ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) |
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by obailala(m): 5:02pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
0monnak0da:
Quotation
What statements EXACTLY? I see nothing wrong with what I read so maybe you read something different QUOTATION? When the basis of a political campaign deviates from an advertisement of competence and achievement, and moves into the realm of ethnic, tribal and/or religious sentiments (e.g. if you are Muslim, vote for only Muslims, if you are Yoruba, vote for only Yorubas etc.), you don't need to be told that that shouldn't be the case in sane civil societies. Even though it's the norm in Nigeria, it doesn't necessarily make it okay for electoral choices and campaigns to be based on tribes of the candidate Except I read it wrong, Fashola made a statement that the SW (Yorubas) should vote for APC so that a Yoruba man can be president in 2023. I'm not surprised you see nothing wrong with such an ethnic/tribal statement; after all, you're just another citizen of a country where ethnic, tribal and religious sentiments reign supreme. |
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by 0monnak0da: 5:14pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
obailala: When the basis of a political campaign deviates from an advertisement of competence and achievement, and moves into the realm of ethnic, tribal and/or religious sentiments (e.g. if you are Muslim, vote for only Muslims, if you are Yoruba, vote for only Yorubas etc.), you don't need to be told that that shouldn't be the case in sane civil societies.
Except I read it wrong, Fashola made a statement that Yorubas should vote for APC so that a Yoruba man can be president in 2023. I'm not surprised you see nothing unusual about such an ethnic/tribal statement; after all you're just another citizen of a country where ethnic, tribal and religious sentiments reign supreme. Except I read it wrong, Fashola made a statement that Yorubas should vote for APC so that a Yoruba man can be president in 2023. So this is the issue Well if you came out to criticise the way Nigerian politicians conduct their politics I would say that you have a point and some sense. To single out Fashola suggests either hypocrisy or insanity or both Is Fashola a saint or a clergyman? What has he said that is new or that other politicians have not said? Why single him out? That is 2018 Nigerian politics If you can show me a quote where you have criticised Okorocha for saying exactly the same thing SEVERAL TIMES then I will take you seriously Why focus on Fashola? I thought I was talking to someone with sense. I thought Fashola said something no one has ever said Why are you waking up now? GOOD MORNING 2 Likes |
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by deomelo: 5:23pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
obailala: When the basis of a political campaign deviates from an advertisement of competence and achievement, and moves into the realm of ethnic, tribal and/or religious sentiments (e.g. if you are Muslim, vote for only Muslims, if you are Yoruba, vote for only Yorubas etc.), you don't need to be told that that shouldn't be the case in sane civil societies. Even though it's the norm in Nigeria, it doesn't necessarily make it okay for electoral choices and campaigns to be based on tribes of the candidate
Except I read it wrong, Fashola made a statement that the SW (Yorubas) should vote for APC so that a Yoruba man can be president in 2023. I'm not surprised you see nothing wrong with such an ethnic/tribal statement; after all, you're just another citizen of a country where ethnic, tribal and religious sentiments reign supreme. obailala: The SE has a very good political case why it has to support PDP. Supporting Atiku/Obi might just be able to assure an Igbo presidency in 2027
Likewise, the SW has a very good political case why it has to support APC irrespective of PMB's performance. Supporting APC would providr a 95% assurance of power returning to the SW in 2023.
What I do not understand is why anyone has to insult the other group for their political choices.
Regarding power shifting to the SE, I still can't understand why anyone would sit in their house doing nothing and expect the crown to be given to him on a platter. Political powers in the SW like Tinubu and co have been licking the balls of the Fulanis for the past 4 years for a particular reason. It's even more amusing that some folks from the SE then fling insults at Tinubu and the entire SW for being Fulani slaves, and then these same set of people expect the north to handover to the SE?.... How can the north by-pass the SW that has given it all the support and then handover to it's greatest antagonists and mockers? The above quote and highlights was you arguing against the same sentiments you are ranting about in this thread.
You are a victim of your own contradictions.. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by senatordave1(m): 5:24pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
RealityShot: yes he was.. how many tenures did he do?
have considered that south south sponsored Buhari via Amaechi?
whether you like it or not; southsouth must complete their 8 year double tenure. Just like west and north have done.
otherwise, trouble.
i may not use my sense but its my opinion. So shoove your insult in your tea and drink it. ![tongue](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/tongue.png) Your correct oh.some ss leaders are positioning themselves for 2023.ss will likely give apc more votes than bubu thereby putting them in contention to succeed bubu.i suggest the south east do the same 1 Like |
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by 0monnak0da: 5:24pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
deomelo:
The above quote and highlights was you arguing against the same sentiments you are ranting about in this thread.
You are a victim of your own contradictions.. What a dirty hypocrite |
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by ImperialYoruba: 5:25pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
Nwaforj44: Not minding the discordant tunes being played by the ruling All Progressives Congress (APC) and scheming regarding which geopolitical zone would produce the president in 2023, mainstream Ndigbo appear unperturbed. They insist they would decide their fate.
In fact, a very reliable source at the apex Igbo socio cultural organisation, Ohanaeze Ndigbo, yesterday, confided in The Guardian that the body was not swayed by ongoing antics as it would soon meet to reveal the path the Igbo would thread regarding the forthcoming 2019 general elections and beyond.
Last Thursday, Minister of Power, Works and Housing, Babatunde Raji Fashola, at a town hall meeting urged the people of South West to vote for President Muhammadu Buhari in the 2019 elections in order to guarantee a return of power to the region in 2023.This view runs contrary to that canvassed earlier in the year by the Secretary to Government of the Federation (SFG), Boss Mustapha, when he promised that the APC would ensure that Igbo produced the president in 2023 should they support the second term aspiration of Buhari.
But in their separate reactions, leading lights in the South East insist that they were focused on the 2019 general elections, and on ensuring the restructuring of the country, just as they alleged that they have always been sidelined by the Buhari- led administration.
“We don’t expect to benefit anything good from Buhari. If Fashola has made this call to the South West with all the cries that Ndigbo have raised so far, then we should come to terms with the fact that such is the thinking of the cabal. It did not start today and we don’t expect it to stop now,” a chieftain of Ohanaeze Ndigbo told The Guardian on ground of anonymity, yesterday.
But the National Chairman of the United Progressives Party (UPP), Chief Chekwas Okorie, suggested the need for Ndigbo to convoke a general meeting on the issue, stressing that, even though there has been a general consensus that Igbo should be allowed to taste power at the centre, he does not expect it to happen without a struggle.
Okorie said: “It is not done turn-by-turn as such. Fashola to my knowledge is using it as a campaign strategy to get the support of the South West for his party. While he was saying so for the South West, Ngige was also saying the same for the South East. Remember that the Secretary to the Government of the Federation (SGF), Boss Mustapha went to a function in Owerri, Imo State to promise that South East will be made to take over from Buhari in 2023 by the APC. The PDP has not told us anything about 2023. I think it is for Igbo to take the decision and decide on what to do between now and 2023.
“On the side of the UPP we are featuring an Igbo candidate for the Presidency in 2023 and we are poised to achieve it. The rotational thing is unwritten and we are saying that for equity and fairness, the Presidency of the country should be allowed to rotate within the geopolitical zones. It is sad that a particular set of people, who have contributed to the development of the country are perpetually held down in the scheme of things in the country. I have always known that there is contest between zones when it comes to issues of this nature, but for the sake of the continued unity, Igbo should be allowed to produce the country’s president in 2023.”
Former Secretary General of Ohanaeze Ndigbo, Dr. Joe Nworgu, who queried when Fashola and Ngige were made the spokespersons for the Yoruba and Igbo in the country, explained that the interest of the zone was how to go about 2019 and ensure the restructuring of the country.“Our focus is 2019 and restructuring. Whatever anybody is saying is just a ploy from the same table. Fashola spoke, Ngige spoke, but I want to know when they became spokespersons of the various zones where they come from. The Yoruba and the Igbo should work together to ensure that they achieve restructuring, and 2019 election is a referendum between those who want restructuring and those against restructuring. We have already known the feelings of the two leading political parties, and it is clear what they represent on the issue,” he said.
A chieftain of the All Progressives Grand Alliance (APGA), Chief Clem Nlemigbo said: “We are not surprised. We have always believed that the APC has no Igbo interest at heart and will always frustrate the zone. It is sad for anybody to begin to believe that only when Ndigbo vote APC will they have the opportunity to become president of the country. APGA is not worried, but is focused on winning the Presidency in 2019 using its candidate.”
Also, president Emeritus, Aka Ikenga, Chief Goddy Uwazuruike said: “It’s possible for South West to get the presidential ticket of APC in 2023. This is because APC is an amalgamation of North West and South West political lords. All the other zones are joiners. For record purposes, the APC was the brainchild of Dr. Ogbonnaya Onu, but at the crucial meeting where the substratum of the party was decided, he was excluded. South East political leaders in APC are mere hangers-on in the corridors of power.
“The power brokers belong to the kitchen cabinet either of the president, or of the party chairman. The Igbo APC leadership merely pretends to be in a position to influence things. Telling the South East that power will shift to it is nothing but lies from the pit of hell. Nobody else made that promise. Even the statement of Boss Mustapha was mere palliative; it is like a mere pat on the back as the party has never made that promise.”
He claimed that, “the entire APC arrangement ab initio never had any worthwhile position for the South East. The South West had the VP, the speaker and the national leader slot. The North West had the president, the North East had the Senate president, the North Central and the South South were ignored. Ndigbo have said it loud and clear that only the party that presents what we want should expect Igbo support. I am in agreement with that.”
Former Minister of Information, Chief Tony Momoh, is of the view that whoever ever wants the Presidency must work hard for that to come to pass.He recalled that APC and President Buhari didn’t get up to 200, 000 votes out of the estimated nine million votes cast in the South East in 2015 because it calculated that PDP will win, while the South West supported the president.
“To give the Presidency to any region depends on the support of the zone because power is not, and cannot be given on a platter of gold. Nobody is going to tell the Igbo to vote for APC because in the next general election, three political parties will be prominent in the South East- the APC, PDP and APGA. If the Igbo people decide to support PDP and APGA and the ruling party eventually retains power till 2023, it would be unthinkable to believe that the Presidency would be conceded to the Igbo at the expense of the Yoruba that gave their support.“For now, even if they support the former vice president (Atiku Abubakar) in next year’s election, that would still not guarantee the region getting the presidency in 2023. The onus is on them to decide whatever they want in the coming presidential election,” he said.
Founding Chairman, South Eastern Peoples Mandate (SEPA), Mr. Campbell Offorbuike Umenzekwe, seems to agree with Momoh that the South East cannot reap when it has failed to sow. Umenzekwe said: “The APC constitution does not recognise zoning of any political position. For example, in the run-up to 2015 presidential primary of the party in Lagos, Governor Rochas Okorocha, participated but lost to Buhari. There is nothing new in what Fashola said to his people in South West, because I believe he is only campaigning for APC to win his region.”
The Publicity Secretary of APC in Lagos, Mr. Joe Igbokwe, has been a strong advocate of Igbo support for Buhari in 2019.According to him, this remains the only way the zone can brighten its chances of getting the Presidency in 2023.He warned that the zone would have itself to blame if it voted against the incumbent next year and lose the opportunity of producing the next president.
According to him, “Politics is a game of numbers and so far the Igbo are in the minority; they must cooperate with other regions to get what they want. 2023 is the closest means for the South East to produce the president and this only depends on their voting pattern in 2019.”
The National Publicity Secretary of Afenifere, Mr. Yinka Odumakin, in his comment on the issue said, “The demand of South East and South West is that Nigeria must be restructured in 2019. Who cares where the president comes from in 2023 after we have restructured. The various sections of the country will be in productive mode to have time for such shenanigans. What would the Presidency do for the people of any section of Nigeria under the present structure than Fashola’s “achievement” in the power sector.
“In the First Republic, Ahmadu Bello declined being Nigeria’s prime minister and opted to be Premier of Northern Region. Yoruba are not children who never tasted soup before who will now soil their garments over stale soup. Restructuring we want!” Former Deputy National Chairman of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP), Chief Olabode George, on his part lambasted Fashola accusing him of abdicating his immediate responsibility as Works Minister to meddle into politics.He said if the minister and his party have failed in road construction and rehabilitation jobs across the nation “he should stay clear of politics.”
https://www.akelicious.net/2018/10/2023-presidency-fashola-cant-decide-our.html Before this lie becomes the truth, let's resolve it immediately. A mega party alliance had been in the works as far back as 2007. Go and read about the transition of AD to AC to ACN and now APC. Also, read on Atiku's problems in PDP and his political journey so far. Tinubu had been working on displacing Obasanjo and PDP since 2007. He wanted to water down Obasanjo's influence in SW and to form alliance with other parties to topple PDP from center. From AD he made alliances and became AC. AC wiped PDP out of SW. Next he made alliances and became ACN to retain SW and expand out to other states. They scored pockets of legislative posts around the country and became the opposition party to mainstream PDP. Next he approached Buhari for alliance to become the ruling party, ACN became APC. You can see the trajectory of how Tinubu grew from NADECO's AD to AC to ACN to APC. From having one State under him, he expanded to have a whole region under him, then he became the sole opposition party nationally, and last the ruling party. Ogbonnaya was in ANPP. Give us his political trajectory and how he was the brain behind formation of APC. 2 Likes |
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by 0monnak0da: 5:25pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
obailala: The SE has a very good political case why it has to support PDP. Supporting Atiku/Obi might just be able to assure an Igbo presidency in 2027.
Likewise, the SW has a very good political case why it has to support APC irrespective of PMB's performance. Supporting APC would providr a 95% assurance of power returning to the SW in 2023.
What I do not understand is why anyone has to insult the other group for their political choices.
Regarding power shifting to the SE, I still can't understand why anyone would sit in their house doing nothing and expect the crown to be given to him on a platter. Political powers in the SW like Tinubu and co have been licking the balls of the Fulanis for the past 4 years for a particular reason. It's even more amusing that some folks from the SE then fling insults at Tinubu and the entire SW for being Fulani slaves, and then these same set of people expect the north to handover to the SE?.... How can the north by-pass the SW that has given it all the support and then handover to it's greatest antagonists and mockers? you see your life?.?? |
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by Nobody: 5:39pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
Nwaforj44: Not minding the discordant tunes being played by the ruling All Progressives Congress (APC) and scheming regarding which geopolitical zone would produce the president in 2023, mainstream Ndigbo appear unperturbed. They insist they would decide their fate.
In fact, a very reliable source at the apex Igbo socio cultural organisation, Ohanaeze Ndigbo, yesterday, confided in The Guardian that the body was not swayed by ongoing antics as it would soon meet to reveal the path the Igbo would thread regarding the forthcoming 2019 general elections and beyond.
Last Thursday, Minister of Power, Works and Housing, Babatunde Raji Fashola, at a town hall meeting urged the people of South West to vote for President Muhammadu Buhari in the 2019 elections in order to guarantee a return of power to the region in 2023.This view runs contrary to that canvassed earlier in the year by the Secretary to Government of the Federation (SFG), Boss Mustapha, when he promised that the APC would ensure that Igbo produced the president in 2023 should they support the second term aspiration of Buhari.
But in their separate reactions, leading lights in the South East insist that they were focused on the 2019 general elections, and on ensuring the restructuring of the country, just as they alleged that they have always been sidelined by the Buhari- led administration.
“We don’t expect to benefit anything good from Buhari. If Fashola has made this call to the South West with all the cries that Ndigbo have raised so far, then we should come to terms with the fact that such is the thinking of the cabal. It did not start today and we don’t expect it to stop now,” a chieftain of Ohanaeze Ndigbo told The Guardian on ground of anonymity, yesterday.
But the National Chairman of the United Progressives Party (UPP), Chief Chekwas Okorie, suggested the need for Ndigbo to convoke a general meeting on the issue, stressing that, even though there has been a general consensus that Igbo should be allowed to taste power at the centre, he does not expect it to happen without a struggle.
Okorie said: “It is not done turn-by-turn as such. Fashola to my knowledge is using it as a campaign strategy to get the support of the South West for his party. While he was saying so for the South West, Ngige was also saying the same for the South East. Remember that the Secretary to the Government of the Federation (SGF), Boss Mustapha went to a function in Owerri, Imo State to promise that South East will be made to take over from Buhari in 2023 by the APC. The PDP has not told us anything about 2023. I think it is for Igbo to take the decision and decide on what to do between now and 2023.
“On the side of the UPP we are featuring an Igbo candidate for the Presidency in 2023 and we are poised to achieve it. The rotational thing is unwritten and we are saying that for equity and fairness, the Presidency of the country should be allowed to rotate within the geopolitical zones. It is sad that a particular set of people, who have contributed to the development of the country are perpetually held down in the scheme of things in the country. I have always known that there is contest between zones when it comes to issues of this nature, but for the sake of the continued unity, Igbo should be allowed to produce the country’s president in 2023.”
Former Secretary General of Ohanaeze Ndigbo, Dr. Joe Nworgu, who queried when Fashola and Ngige were made the spokespersons for the Yoruba and Igbo in the country, explained that the interest of the zone was how to go about 2019 and ensure the restructuring of the country.“Our focus is 2019 and restructuring. Whatever anybody is saying is just a ploy from the same table. Fashola spoke, Ngige spoke, but I want to know when they became spokespersons of the various zones where they come from. The Yoruba and the Igbo should work together to ensure that they achieve restructuring, and 2019 election is a referendum between those who want restructuring and those against restructuring. We have already known the feelings of the two leading political parties, and it is clear what they represent on the issue,” he said.
A chieftain of the All Progressives Grand Alliance (APGA), Chief Clem Nlemigbo said: “We are not surprised. We have always believed that the APC has no Igbo interest at heart and will always frustrate the zone. It is sad for anybody to begin to believe that only when Ndigbo vote APC will they have the opportunity to become president of the country. APGA is not worried, but is focused on winning the Presidency in 2019 using its candidate.”
Also, president Emeritus, Aka Ikenga, Chief Goddy Uwazuruike said: “It’s possible for South West to get the presidential ticket of APC in 2023. This is because APC is an amalgamation of North West and South West political lords. All the other zones are joiners. For record purposes, the APC was the brainchild of Dr. Ogbonnaya Onu, but at the crucial meeting where the substratum of the party was decided, he was excluded. South East political leaders in APC are mere hangers-on in the corridors of power.
“The power brokers belong to the kitchen cabinet either of the president, or of the party chairman. The Igbo APC leadership merely pretends to be in a position to influence things. Telling the South East that power will shift to it is nothing but lies from the pit of hell. Nobody else made that promise. Even the statement of Boss Mustapha was mere palliative; it is like a mere pat on the back as the party has never made that promise.”
He claimed that, “the entire APC arrangement ab initio never had any worthwhile position for the South East. The South West had the VP, the speaker and the national leader slot. The North West had the president, the North East had the Senate president, the North Central and the South South were ignored. Ndigbo have said it loud and clear that only the party that presents what we want should expect Igbo support. I am in agreement with that.”
Former Minister of Information, Chief Tony Momoh, is of the view that whoever ever wants the Presidency must work hard for that to come to pass.He recalled that APC and President Buhari didn’t get up to 200, 000 votes out of the estimated nine million votes cast in the South East in 2015 because it calculated that PDP will win, while the South West supported the president.
“To give the Presidency to any region depends on the support of the zone because power is not, and cannot be given on a platter of gold. Nobody is going to tell the Igbo to vote for APC because in the next general election, three political parties will be prominent in the South East- the APC, PDP and APGA. If the Igbo people decide to support PDP and APGA and the ruling party eventually retains power till 2023, it would be unthinkable to believe that the Presidency would be conceded to the Igbo at the expense of the Yoruba that gave their support.“For now, even if they support the former vice president (Atiku Abubakar) in next year’s election, that would still not guarantee the region getting the presidency in 2023. The onus is on them to decide whatever they want in the coming presidential election,” he said.
Founding Chairman, South Eastern Peoples Mandate (SEPA), Mr. Campbell Offorbuike Umenzekwe, seems to agree with Momoh that the South East cannot reap when it has failed to sow. Umenzekwe said: “The APC constitution does not recognise zoning of any political position. For example, in the run-up to 2015 presidential primary of the party in Lagos, Governor Rochas Okorocha, participated but lost to Buhari. There is nothing new in what Fashola said to his people in South West, because I believe he is only campaigning for APC to win his region.”
The Publicity Secretary of APC in Lagos, Mr. Joe Igbokwe, has been a strong advocate of Igbo support for Buhari in 2019.According to him, this remains the only way the zone can brighten its chances of getting the Presidency in 2023.He warned that the zone would have itself to blame if it voted against the incumbent next year and lose the opportunity of producing the next president.
According to him, “Politics is a game of numbers and so far the Igbo are in the minority; they must cooperate with other regions to get what they want. 2023 is the closest means for the South East to produce the president and this only depends on their voting pattern in 2019.”
The National Publicity Secretary of Afenifere, Mr. Yinka Odumakin, in his comment on the issue said, “The demand of South East and South West is that Nigeria must be restructured in 2019. Who cares where the president comes from in 2023 after we have restructured. The various sections of the country will be in productive mode to have time for such shenanigans. What would the Presidency do for the people of any section of Nigeria under the present structure than Fashola’s “achievement” in the power sector.
“In the First Republic, Ahmadu Bello declined being Nigeria’s prime minister and opted to be Premier of Northern Region. Yoruba are not children who never tasted soup before who will now soil their garments over stale soup. Restructuring we want!” Former Deputy National Chairman of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP), Chief Olabode George, on his part lambasted Fashola accusing him of abdicating his immediate responsibility as Works Minister to meddle into politics.He said if the minister and his party have failed in road construction and rehabilitation jobs across the nation “he should stay clear of politics.”
https://www.akelicious.net/2018/10/2023-presidency-fashola-cant-decide-our.html IGBOS will Atikulate till 2023 or 2027 |
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by Nobody: 5:43pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
obailala: The SE has a very good political case why it has to support PDP. Supporting Atiku/Obi might just be able to assure an Igbo presidency in 2027.
Likewise, the SW has a very good political case why it has to support APC irrespective of PMB's performance. Supporting APC would providr a 95% assurance of power returning to the SW in 2023.
What I do not understand is why anyone has to insult the other group for their political choices.
Regarding power shifting to the SE, I still can't understand why anyone would sit in their house doing nothing and expect the crown to be given to him on a platter. Political powers in the SW like Tinubu and co have been licking the balls of the Fulanis for the past 4 years for a particular reason. It's even more amusing that some folks from the SE then fling insults at Tinubu and the entire SW for being Fulani slaves, and then these same set of people expect the north to handover to the SE?.... How can the north by-pass the SW that has given it all the support and then handover to it's greatest antagonists and mockers? we don't need to ass lick anyone to become president. Most importantly, Yoruba votes in 2019 won't be able to get buhari a second tenure. in 2015 Yoruba gave Buhari 2.3 million votes n if u subtract that from Buharis winning margin standing at 2.6 million votes, The SW votes only helped Buhari to get 25% votes in 2/3 of states. Yoruba votes will be useless this time. |
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by RealityShot: 5:52pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
senatordave1:
Your correct oh.some ss leaders are positioning themselves for 2023.ss will likely give apc more votes than bubu thereby putting them in contention to succeed bubu.i suggest the south east do the same if only they will listen and leave ipob nonsence. 1 Like |
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by 0monnak0da: 6:08pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
How can any one with sense expect APC to give presidential slot to SE?.? We all know the history of APC Why the self deception? APC will present a a SW candidate but that is no guarantee of victory. PDP likely will present a SS candidate. |
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by obailala(m): 7:13pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
0monnak0da:
Except I read it wrong, Fashola made a statement that Yorubas should vote for APC so that a Yoruba man can be president in 2023.
So this is the issue
Well if you came out to criticise the way Nigerian politicians conduct their politics I would say that you have a point and some sense.[color=#990000][/color] To single out Fashola suggests either hypocrisy or insanity or both Is Fashola a saint or a clergyman? What has he said that is new or that other politicians have not said? Why single him out?
That is 2018 Nigerian politics If you can show me a quote where you have criticised Okorocha for saying exactly the same thing SEVERAL TIMES then I will take you seriously
Why focus on Fashola?
I thought I was talking to someone with sense. I thought Fashola said something no one has ever said Why are you waking up now?
GOOD MORNING Go back and read what I wrote again and kindly point out where I absolved anyone of the blame; I clearly called it a Nigerian phenomenon and mentioned that even if everyone does it, it doesnt still make it civil. If you had half the sense or sanity you brag about, you should have noted that before insulting me. But then, that even takes me to my next point. Even of every silly illiterate Nigerian politician out there does it, you are right about what I said, I expected more from a person in the mould of Fashola. |
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by 0monnak0da: 7:16pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
obailala: Go back and read what I wrote again and kindly point out where I absolved anyone of the blame; I clearly called it a Nigerian phenomenon and mentioned that even if everyone does it, it doesnt still make it civil. If you had half the sense or sanity you brag about, you should have noted that before insulting me.
But then, that even takes me to my next point. Even of every silly illiterate Nigerian politician out there does it, you are right about what I said, I expected more from a person in the mould of Fashola. obailala: The SE has a very good political case why it has to support PDP. Supporting Atiku/Obi might just be able to assure an Igbo presidency in 2027.
Likewise, the SW has a very good political case why it has to support APC irrespective of PMB's performance. Supporting APC would providr a 95% assurance of power returning to the SW in 2023.
What I do not understand is why anyone has to insult the other group for their political choices.
Regarding power shifting to the SE, I still can't understand why anyone would sit in their house doing nothing and expect the crown to be given to him on a platter. Political powers in the SW like Tinubu and co have been licking the balls of the Fulanis for the past 4 years for a particular reason. It's even more amusing that some folks from the SE then fling insults at Tinubu and the entire SW for being Fulani slaves, and then these same set of people expect the north to handover to the SE?.... How can the north by-pass the SW that has given it all the support and then handover to it's greatest antagonists and mockers? You are ridiculous |
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by obailala(m): 7:26pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
PrecisionFx:
we don't need to ass lick anyone to become president.
Most importantly, Yoruba votes in 2019 won't be able to get buhari a second tenure. in 2015 Yoruba gave Buhari 2.3 million votes n if u subtract that from Buharis winning margin standing at 2.6 million votes, The SW votes only helped Buhari to get 25% votes in 2/3 of states.
Yoruba votes will be useless this time. Bro, politics is a game of numbers, and it typically involves a game of "scratch my back I scratch yours". The SW formed an alliance with the north so as to gain political relevance; the alliance seems to be working and would likely produce fruits for them in 2023. The only people who really call that alliance 'ass licking' are the people from the SE who after insulting the SW of being slaves, they now turn around to wail and wail and wail about being left out in the political scheme of things in the country. 2023, is around the corner, if apc wins in 2019, power will likely shift to the SW and this wailing about being left out politically will likely continue in the SE. By the way, if you call it ass licking or slavery when the SW political block supports the fulani Buhari and the north, what exactly would you call the support the SE gave to GEJ (in exchange for zero tangible projects) and the support the SE is currently giving a fulani Atiku? 1 Like |
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by obailala(m): 7:29pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
deomelo:
The above quote and highlights was you arguing against the same sentiments you are ranting about in this thread.
You are a victim of your own contradictions.. Oga, I was explaining 2 different things in that single post. Too bad you couldn't comprehend it because you obviously have a singular mind that only sees everything from one angle. |
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by obailala(m): 7:32pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
0monnak0da:
You are ridiculous If you werent worse than ridiculous, you could have been able to point out what's wrong in my statement. |
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by Nobody: 8:46pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
obailala: Bro, politics is a game of numbers, and it typically involves a game of "scratch my back I scratch yours". The SW formed an alliance with the north so as to gain political relevance; the alliance seems to be working and would likely produce fruits for them in 2023. The only people who really call that alliance 'ass licking' are the people from the SE who after insulting the SW of being slaves, they now turn around to wail and wail and wail about being left out in the political scheme of things in the country. 2023, is around the corner, if apc wins in 2019, power will likely shift to the SW and this wailing about being left out politically will likely continue in the SE.
By the way, if you call it ass licking or slavery when the SW political block supports the fulani Buhari and the north, what exactly would you call the support the SE gave to GEJ (in exchange for zero tangible projects) and the support the SE is currently giving a fulani Atiku? "" they now turn around to wail and wail and wail about being left out in the political scheme of things in the country "" Blatant falsehood. IGBOS don't care about this presidency like u guys from other regions do. IGBOS are special, We don't asslick. Unlike yorubas, We can't continue to support a president who has failed badly just to become president later, we will never sell our future n the future of our children for nothing. We will always stand by what is right |
Re: 2023 Presidency Fashola Can’t Decide Our Fate —ndigbo by obailala(m): 9:21pm On Oct 28, 2018 |
PrecisionFx:
"" they now turn around to wail and wail and wail about being left out in the political scheme of things in the country ""
Blatant falsehood. IGBOS don't care about this presidency like u guys from other regions do.
IGBOS are special, We don't asslick. Unlike yorubas, We can't continue to support a president who has failed badly just to become president later, we will never sell our future n the future of our children for nothing. We will always stand by what is right Oga dont you even have any iota of shame coming online to lie about something that's known to even infants? Which tribe or ethnic group in Nigeria doesnt want a better share of the national cake or equitable representation at the helm of affairs?... While every tribe comes up with some form of complaint or the other about being marginalised politically or otherwise, which ethnic nationality has cried about this more than the Igbos since Nigeria's history?... Tell me one single tribe or ethnic group that has or is currently lamenting about not being given a chance to rule Nigeria other than the Igbos?... Did you just stretch out your hands to type that bold statement above? And you expect to be taken seriously?.. How old are you by the way? ![undecided](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/undecided.png) 1 Like |