martineverest:
God bless oba of Benin for banking slave trade

Amen.

Something haters always fail to accept but keep arguing blindly.

By the time transatlantic slave trade really took off from about 1630 to 1800 (ban already existed since before 1550 under Oba Esigie aleady), Benin had already actively proscribed slave trade. When other tribes under Benin Empire insisted on selling themselves, the Oba had to reach an agreement with their elites. That they can trade in themselves by themselves. BUT no Benin man or woman shall be sold or bought and no Benin man or woman shall buy or sell any slave of any tribe.

This agreement is often used by detractors that Oba allowed trading in other people. In any country or empire with many tribes and customs or traditions, certain things are devolved to the local people to manage.

In the 1700s, a French slave trader entered in his diary that of the roughly 100 slaves on sale along the road from Benin City to the port of Gwatto (Ughoton), there were Yoruba, Igbo and other tribes but no Benin person. Also no trader was a Benin person.

Again and again, when origin kingdoms or chiefdoms or coastal origins of slaves (according to European slave merchants' records) Benin is always largely missing.

Olaudah Equiano, the slave who later bought his freedom described himself as an Igbo from Benin Kingdom in his book published in 1789. He narrated how he was abducted in his village in Igbo speaking part, presumably Anioma, of Benin Kingdom.
Very insightful to read.

However tribalism and bigotry will not allow people accept the truth.

where calaba pipu na lolz

Ikio:
I still believe where the ijaws because most of there names are english names.

Oga, please read history well oooo.

You guffed there. English did not come to NIgeria for slave trade. They came for colonization.

Colonization is not in the scope of this writeup.

AreaFada2:

Amen.
Something haters always fail to accept but keep arguing blindly.
By the time transatlantic slave trade really took off from about 1630 to 1800, Benin had already actively proscribed slave trade. When other tribes under Benin Empire insisted on selling themselves, the Oba had to reach an agreement with their elites. That they can trade in themselves by themselves. BUT no Benin man or woman shall be sold or bought and no Benin man or woman shall buy or sell any slave of any tribe.

This agreement is often used by detractors that Oba allowed trading in other people. In any country or empire with many tribes and customs or traditions, certain things are devolved to the local people to manage.

In the 1700s, a French slave trader entered in his diary that of the roughly 100 slaves on sale along the road from Benin City to the port of Gwatto (Ughoton), there were Yoruba, Igbo and other tribes but no Benin person. Also no trader was a Benin person.

Again and again, when origin kingdoms or chiefdoms or coast origin of slaves (according to European slave merchant's records) Benin is largely missing.

Oloudah Equiano, the slave who later bought his freedom described himself as an Igbo from Benin Kingdom in his book. He narrated how he was abducted in his village in Igbo speaking part, presumably Anioma, of Benin Kingdom.
Very insightful to read.

However tribalism and bigotry will not allow people accept the truth.

proxillin:


Ashantis of Ghana will be number 13 in the list, assuming we have top 30 list. I am a researcher, Historian and Archeologist.

Ashantis of Ghana are not more influential than Igbos. Please read up history. This is about Influence. Its not about who was sold into slavery.

The OP is mischievious. This is why i asked him to define realm of influence for which this is graded. The Original production says "taken into slavery" but op said "influential".

Mods, please degrade this thread from front page, the OP mischieviously mis represented history.

Yoruba is the most SUPERIOR race on this Earth. It is clear to see.

ImperialYoruba:


The OP is mischievious. This is why i asked him to define realm of influence for which this is graded. The Original production says "taken into slavery" but op said "influential".

Mods, please degrade this thread from front page, the OP mischieviously mis represented history.

The video influenced my work. And the video you watched placed Yoruba as 2nd too. Ofcourse I know the owner of the video, we belong to the same group. However, I didnt influence his decision.

Let me ask you. Which of the tribes in Africa is known for any religion in Americas? Only Yorubas. Yoruba is now a religion in American Continent.

They influence their host. I dont know why this is debatable to anyone.

You are the one who is clearly bias here. A simple search through wikipedia will even shut your mouth.

Let me restate that this is for education purpose. If you feel aggrieved that your ethnic group is not well represented, kindly rewrite your own history and push it to wikipedia.

ImperialYoruba:
Yoruba is the most SUPERIOR race on this Earth. It is clear to see.

Thats not fatcual.
1. Jews
2. Arabs
3. Asians


Maybe Yorubas will make 20th position.

Jews are the most influential race on the planet.

chiboy1116:
Where is Hausa ?

Hausa's are often regarded as Fulani which I think were placed in 7th position

ImperialYoruba:
Yoruba is the most SUPERIOR race on this Earth. It is clear to see.

There's no way I will agree to this, because of Hausa popularity it's being offered in Yale University and Harvard University, so don't be selfish because you belong to Yoruba tribe

proxillin:


Ashantis of Ghana will be number 13 in the list, assuming we have top 30 list. I am a researcher, Historian and Archeologist.

Ashantis of Ghana are not more influential than Igbos. Please read up history. This is about Influence. Its not about who was sold into slavery.

How do mean influence? What makes Yoruba more influencial than the igbos. The igbos were the most sort after slaves and most expensive because of the hard work and fair complexion. The igbos were seen as superior race. www.nairaland.com/attachments/3606242_img20150921052004edit_jpeg1e50872f539456818f3b813301de20e3

Mind u, 60% of the Black's you see in america today originated from bight of biafra (through the port of calabar and bonny) which composed of the ijaws, efiks, Ibibio and majority igbos. What notable slave of Yoruba origin was more influential than Olaudah Equiano, who born his freedom, rallied round to work to abolishment of slavery. And he is the reason slave trade was abolished? Which Yoruba's slave was more notable than James Africanus B Horton, whose works was recommended to the British house of common for the establishment of self government?

www.nairaland.com/attachments/3606203_265940620150722195618jpeg4f3d8eea0d927617038a897e4bd7efd1_jpeg_jpegceaf32e4c1a92c7bcec4254f46e42d8a

What notable historical event, action or activities was taken by the Yoruba's slaves like the Igbo landing at St. Simons Island, Glynn County, Georgia.which today is a historical tourist site and has been used to teach about black history in america till this day.

What of Nat Turner, the rebel Igbo slave who fought against white oppression and his story has been adapted into a movie "Birth of a Nation".

What of the word Ebony? Do you know it was adopted from the word EBO as it was called then? ...op if you are new to nairaland. Just stay humble before u are disgraced out of here.

Another big lie from you, Yoruba's and Fulani's are not the largest ethnic group in African. I don't know which is the largest but I know the by 1920 populations census, igbos were not only almost double Yoruba's, they were 2/3 of southern Nigerian. (Check physical anthropology of southern Nigeria). www.nairaland.com/attachments/3606711_img20160415205559_jpeg6889d8ed59c6c554cfd840f11f842271

Again, another lie, Yoruba's are not older than igbos. Igbos are the oldest ethnic group, to inhabit nigeria. Don't worry, I will post all for you. You are a fake researcher, a bias one and you know nothing. Shame.

This is the same way you all deceived yourselves with most educated, most professors, most doctors, lawyers and engineers. Yet facts and documents keep showing that you guys are far behind the igbos. You guys cant make an objective research without being biased. What are u guys ashame of, why do you like lying to urselves

chiboy1116:
Where is Hausa ?

I think there distance from the coast actually played a roll in their unvictimization

They all failed!

Ozibe:


How do mean influence? What makes Yoruba more influencial than the igbos. The igbos were the most sort after slaves and most expensive because of the hard work and fair complexion. The igbos were seen as superior race. www.nairaland.com/attachments/3606242_img20150921052004edit_jpeg1e50872f539456818f3b813301de20e3

Mind u, 60% of the Black's you see in america today originated from bight of biafra (through the port of calabar and bonny) which composed of the ijaws, efiks, Ibibio and majority igbos. What notable slave of Yoruba origin was more influential than Olaudah Equiano, who born his freedom, rallied round to work to abolishment of slavery. And he is the reason slave trade was abolished? Which Yoruba's slave was more notable than James Africanus B Horton, whose works was recommended to the British house of common for the establishment of self government?

www.nairaland.com/attachments/3606203_265940620150722195618jpeg4f3d8eea0d927617038a897e4bd7efd1_jpeg_jpegceaf32e4c1a92c7bcec4254f46e42d8a

What notable historical event, action or activities was taken by the Yoruba's slaves like the Igbo landing at St. Simons Island, Glynn County, Georgia.which today is a historical tourist site and has been used to teach about black history in america till this day.

What of Nat Turner, the rebel Igbo slave who fought against white oppression and his story has been adapted into a movie "Birth of a Nation".

What of the word Ebony? Do you know it was adopted from the word EBO as it was called then? ...op if you are new to nairaland. Just stay humble before u are disgraced out of here.

Another big lie from you, Yoruba's and Fulani's are not the largest ethnic group in African. I don't know which is the largest but I know the by 1920 populations census, igbos were not only almost double Yoruba's, they were 2/3 of southern Nigerian. (Check physical anthropology of southern Nigeria). www.nairaland.com/attachments/3606711_img20160415205559_jpeg6889d8ed59c6c554cfd840f11f842271

Again, another lie, Yoruba's are not older than igbos. Igbos are the oldest ethnic group, to inhabit nigeria. Don't worry, I will post all for you. You are a fake researcher, a bias one and you know nothing. Shame.

This is the same way you all deceived yourselves with most educated, most professors, most doctors, lawyers and engineers. Yet facts and documents keep showing that you guys are far behind the igbos. You guys cant make an objective research without being biased. What are u guys ashame of, why do you like lying to urselves

Ok so it has descended to the level of ethnic clashes. I won't be part of it.

All African tribes have monuments or evidence of slavery. You can continue to quote for passages all you want. Other tribes also have similar stories and historical evidence.

I will just address some of your points factually.

1. Igbo are local to South of Nigeria. Yorubas are indigenous to North Central Nigeria, south of Nigeria, Togo, Benin Republic, abidjan. Yorubas are influencia outside the coast of Nigeria.

You said Igbo culture is older than Yorubas. This is too low from you. All artifacts in Benin/Edo + Ile-ife are the oldest in Nigeria. Thanks to science and archeology. You can argue with professors of archeology, even igbos scholars did not argue this. I wonder why you are disputing this despite having little knowledge of history and research.

The influence in this writeup talked about how slaves dominate and influence their land of captive. Only bias person will argued the fact that yoruba spiritualism and cultural symbolism is not making waves in America continents. There are loads of nairaland topic showing how white people are converting to orisa religion.
No other African tribe has this influence.

Take your bias out of this thread. You can go to politics thread to continue your Igbo superiority argument. This is for education purpose.

Thanks.

Taraby:

There's no way I will agree to this, because of Hausa popularity it's being offered in Yale University and Harvard University, so don't be selfish because you belong to Yoruba tribe

Both hausas and Yorubas will not ranked in top ten of world ranking. Yoruba langue is also being taught in British schools. Infact its going mainstream in UK. But that does not mean Yoruba culture is the best.

And my Igbo brother arguing blindly here. If you read the Igbo section. It says 13% of slaves captured from Africa are igbos.

Meaning Igbo were many in America. But Igbos did not influence American continent. They were absolved easily as against the yorubas.

I just wish you understand logic. Free your mind off sentiment and hate. You will understand this article.

Osagyefo98:
Igbos should have been number 8 going by research

Op is biased.

Thank you. I dnt knw abt d Igbo's position being number 8 but yea he is biased nd his account abt slave trade in Igbo land is false. Arochukwu pple hv been in existence even b4 d advent of d white man. Dat dey partook massively in slave trade does not mean dey were d captors of Igbos. Dey re Igbo's demselves.

icogb:
Thank you. I dnt knw abt d Igbo's position being number 8 but yea he is biased nd his account abt slave trade in Igbo land is false. Arochukwu pple hv been in existence even b4 d advent of d white man. Dat dey partook massively in slave trade does not mean dey were d captors of Igbos. Dey re Igbo's demselves.

Thank God igbos. Didn't notice that statement coz it would have put that thread onn fire.

proxillin:


Ok so it has descended to the level of ethnic clashes. I won't be part of it.

All African tribes have monuments or evidence of slavery. You can continue to quote for passages all you want. Other tribes also have similar stories and historical evidence.

I will just address some of your points factually.

1. Igbo are local to South of Nigeria. Yorubas are indigenous to North Central Nigeria, south of Nigeria, Togo, Benin Republic, abidjan. Yorubas are influencia outside the coast of Nigeria.

You said Igbo culture is older than Yorubas. This is too low from you. All artifacts in Benin/Edo + Ile-ife are the oldest in Nigeria. Thanks to science and archeology. You can argue with professors of archeology, even igbos scholars did not argue this. I wonder why you are disputing this despite having little knowledge of history and research.

The influence in this writeup talked about how slaves dominate and influence their land of captive. Only bias person will argued the fact that yoruba spiritualism and cultural symbolism is not making waves in America continents. There are loads of nairaland topic showing how white people are converting to orisa religion.
No other African tribe has this influence.

Take your bias out of this thread. You can go to politics thread to continue your Igbo superiority argument. This is for education purpose.

Thanks.

I'm actually suprised that off all that I wrote , all you picked on was about age of the different cultures, does it mean, u aren't disputing others. meaning u have accepted ur write up about the Yoruba's was flawed, biased and only aimed a propagation falsehood about the Yoruba's?

As for the ages of the cultures. Well. Stop shaming uraef and exposing ur oluwole research works because, even Wikipedia is not saving ur ass.


As u can see Igbo ukwu art which is the oldest discovered artifact is of the 9th century.

Now check that of Benin which is even older than life. Now I understand why u have been attaching Yoruba's and Benin in ur write up. U wanna tap from the history to represent the Yoruba's...Ole. Thief


Igbo ukwu 1 and 2

Benin 3

Ile lfe 4

McStoic:


Is it not better to become a slave to profit ones generations than to become slaves to your own selves. A baby factory produces children for adoption to barren parents while your own Hausa illiteracy produces almajiris who become suicide bombers and liabilities to the whole nation and the world at large.

After the slavery, we have folks in the disapora who have better life as American citizens. But your lame Hausa folks are all here still running round in circles. My dear get a brain and with all thy power get a working, thinking one.

Igbo pple nd illegal money are like 5&6

Thank Allah my tribe no dey the list.

What about d Binis.

Op now compare Igbo ukwu artifacts with that of Ife as you claim. Lazy researcher.


You can see that igbos existed before benins and Benin's existed before Yoruba's....

Stop propagading falsehood on this forum. It is common with you Yoruba's to tell what you are not. The world is so enlightened now that any falsehood will be countered to its reckeless shame

Ozibe:



I'm actually suprised that off all that I wrote , all you picked on was about age of the different cultures, does it mean, u aren't disputing others. meaning u have accepted ur write up about the Yoruba's was flawed, biased and only aimed a propagation falsehood about the Yoruba's?

As for the ages of the cultures. Well. Stop shaming uraef and exposing ur oluwole research works because, even Wikipedia is not saving ur ass.


As u can see Igbo ukwu art which is the oldest discovered artifact is of the 9th century.

Now check that of Benin which is even older than life. Now I understand why u have been attaching Yoruba's and Benin in ur write up. U wanna tap from the history to represent the Yoruba's...Ole. Thief


Igbo ukwu 1 and 2

Benin 3

Ile lfe 4

Mr fraud. Why are you this dubious. You went and quote Ile ife city page. Ile ife was formed in the 1100 bc. But the artifact there were dated into 11bc.

Please don't let your bigotry and tribalism derail this thread. Why didn't you date Enugu as a town. Oya go to wikipedia and copy Enugu page. You will cry.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoruba_art

You are just a fraud.

Please back to the topic. We are talking about influence.

How did Igbo ifluence American continent.

Answer this and stop dribbling. I get time for your fraud a***ss today.

And your ignoramus copied the picture of obalufon. Obalufon is a modern day chieftien in ile ife.

proxillin:


You are correct. Even Usman Danfodio adopted Hausa language after conquering them. Its evident in his scripts in London Museum

*thumbs up*

allaboutobed:
What about d Binis.

Benins were not victims as such. They don't make the top 10.

Sardauna24:
Thank Allah my tribe no dey the list.

Hausa abi? Them dey their but not in top 10. Have you forgotten the usman danfodio conquest?

proxillin:


Mr fraud. Why are you this dubious. You went and quote Ile ife city page. Ile ife was formed in the 1100 bc. But the artifact there were dated into 11bc.

Please don't let your bigotry and tribalism derail this thread. Why didn't you date Enugu as a town. Oya go to wikipedia and copy Enugu page. You will cry.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoruba_art

You are just a fraud.

Please back to the topic. We are talking about influence.

How did Igbo ifluence American continent.

Answer this and stop dribbling. I get time for your fraud a***ss today.

And your ignoramus copied the picture of obalufon. Obalufon is a modern day chieftien in ile ife.

Another poor attempt. I'm not sure I mentioned Enugu.. I mentioned Igbo ukwu art.

And Igbo ukwu was the capital of NRI kingdom. And it was established 10th century , while Igbo ukwu art was dated to 9th century. ...


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Nri

Again please lets not derail this thread. We are discussing influential African tribes during the slave trade. Not which tribe is the best.

This is not a competition.

Thanks.

Ozibe:


Another poor attempt. I'm not sure I mentioned Enugu.. I mentioned Igbo ukwu art.

And Igbo ukwu was the capital of NRI kingdom. And it was established 10th century , while Igbo ukwu art was dated to 9th century. ...


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Nri

You are too intellectually lazy. How do we explain this to you.

You copied Igbo artifact and copy Ile ife town.

Ile ife town is new. But the artifact their are older than the town. Stop dating Ile ife. You date Igbo art, but dated Ile ife town.

Jeez I'm tired. Bye

proxillin:
Again please lets not derail this thread. We are discussing influential African tribes during the slave trade. Not which tribe is the best.

This is not a competition.

Thanks.

Inferiority complex. We talking influence. Igbos(Culture,language and music influence) is spread all over the Americas( North, south and carribean) if u don't know,do more research. That you have minority Yoruba's in Benin, doesn't make u influential. Igbos are also in equatorial guinea, Gabon and Cameroon. In addition to the igbos settled all over the world in mass, living there and doing their business.

What is the population of the minority Yoruba tribe in Benin republic and that of the migrant igbos living and doing business there. Asides, do they see themselves as Yoruba, abi Yoruba just dey claim them?


Igbos is a recognised language in Equatorial guinea. The biokos in equatorial guinea are igbos.

The number of igbos in Cameroon alone is more than the number of igbos in Lagos. Kumba is the largest English speaking city in Cameroon, is know in Cameroon as an Igbo city. That is why Igbo and nigeria is used interchangeably in Cameroon.

Afonja Op educated ursef.

proxillin:


You are too intellectually lazy. How do we explain this to you.

You copied Igbo artifact and copy Ile ife town.

Ile ife town is new. But the artifact their are older than the town. Stop dating Ile ife. You date Igbo art, but dated Ile ife town.

Jeez I'm tired. Bye

Ode ni e.

I already posted ife arts and Igbo ukwu arts..

Go back...ewu