Hehehe. I just dey laugh for here.

Wait make I chop my chinese first. Headache dey worry me.

And I got those stats from soccernet website.

I'm also sure Sneijder takes corners and such. BTW, where was he last night?

I'm sure nincompoops like Sauron abi Cougar would have us believe Sneijder is a better passer than Cesc.

Anyway we are watching. Some guys would look really sill in couple years for comparing Fab to Sneijder

Ibime:

Hehehe. I just dey laugh for here.

Wait make I chop my chinese first. Headache dey worry me.

And I got those stats from soccernet website.

I'm also sure Sneijder takes corners and such. BTW, where was he last night?

I'm sure nincompoops like Sauron abi Cougar would have us believe Sneijder is a better passer than Cesc.

Anyway we are watching. Some guys would look really sill in couple years for comparing Fab to Sneijder

shut up your ijaw mouth, we don't need to know whether you are eating chinese or punjabi rice - too much information. if you are not a fool, you would know sneijder got 3 goals and 6 assists in the champions league last season. passing is not the only attributes required of a great midfielder. darren fletcher is not good in passing the ball and he was one of the best midfielders in the country last season. michael essien is not great passing the ball but many will tell you he's a midfield general. with sneijder, you have a complete box-to-box midfielder who can fit into any formation or any club bar none in europe. as brilliant as xavi is, he will not survive in the premier league cos his style of play requires his team-mates to do the pass n move stunts that is the character and tradition of barcelona. there's no way xavi/fabregas would have propelled inter milan to the treble last season in sneijder's shoes.

how many of these cesc's goals and assists came from penalties and dodgy set-pieces.

I think Cesc scored just 4 penalties last season. Sneijder takes more set pieces than Cesc so what are you on about? Should i begin to mention how many of Sneijder's goals at the WC were deflections or cross-come-shot-come-melo-own-goal?

some of the passes he provided in south africa were reminiscent of diego maradona in his pomp in 86. it's sad that holland were bereft of outstanding poachers cos sneijder would have posted double digits in goal assists.

This is a big lie. . . I'm the biggest fan of Dutch football on earth and i watched every minute of every Holland game. Van Persie was absolutely starved of any decent service by the Snejder-led midfield.

fabregas play in arsenal - a team where he's a god and he's solely burdened with the task of taking penalties, freekicks, corner-kicks and sometimes goal-kicks. why won't he generate more stats than a sneijder who has more outstanding talents in his squad.

Another big lie. . . RVP is Arsenal's #1 dead-ball taker. Even when he isnt fit, Nasri, Rosicky, Arshavin and even Walcott take set-pieces regularly. Sneijder has been the first choice set piece taker in EVERY single team he's played so this excuse holds no water.

eboue, walcott, bendtner and the likes would still pass the ball to cesc to score while etoo, milito, stankovic or balotelli believe they are good finishers themselves and they are not heavily reliant on sneijder.

First class bollocks. . . Eboue, Walcott & Bentdner dont even start for Arsenal. The people who do i.e Arshavin & Nasri are BETTER FINISHERS than Cesc. Get a clue.

in a nutshell, arsenal is built around cesc, it will be a travesty if he doesn't cop 25 goals + 50 assists per season. in sneijder's inter milan, those statistics will spread because there are capable talented players in that team.

More weak excuses. . . Who is Inter built around? Julio Cesar?

Were awards given for individual ball juggling abilities or for your ability to play well in your team?

YOUR ABILITY to play well in your team is not = your TEAM'S ABILITY to win the CL.

The best player in the team that get's relegated will probably be better than the worst player in the team that wins the league.

Ibime:

Hehehe. I just dey laugh for here.

Its a disgrace!!!!

Wait make I chop my chinese first. Headache dey worry me.

2 excuses in one line? Ibime this is a f**cking  disgrace. !!!

And I got those stats from soccernet website.

Aba-made soccernet website? or did you say Shockernet.com Cos there is a difference between http://www.shockernet.com/ and

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/?cc=5901 in case you didnt notice

I'm also sure Sneijder takes corners and such. BTW, where was he last night?

You wan disgrace yourself again? FYI Sneijder was not in the squad for yesternights game. See link below

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/match?id=307855&league=UEFA.CHAMPIONS&cc=5901

I'm sure nincompoops like Sauron abi Cougar would have us believe Sneijder is a better passer than Cesc.

Are you throwing another red-herring when you havent cleared the previous Goof. Is passing the only characteristics of midfielders?

Anyway we are watching. Some guys would look really sill in couple years for comparing Fab to Sneijder

In a couple of years "I go die" might become finer than Morris Chestnut. But we are talking about the moment.

Who ever thought a couple years ago that Nicki Minaj would be spinning heads, In a couple of years down the line she might be begging to be intimate with me 

More weak excuses. . . Who is Inter built around? Julio Cesar?

Inter Milan of last season have a lot of leaders on the field who share responsibility.

Julio Cesar, Lucio, maicon, Zanetti, Cambiasso, Etoo, Milito, Sneijder etc, In pedigree and experience Sneijder might be among the smallest but he rose above all and was named best midfielder in Europe

Compare that to the posse of lepers at Emirate, Why wont Cesc be the one to do everything.

You know it would be easier for a nincompoop to look like Einstein when you are discussing football on the Arsenal thread compared to elsewhere.

Its always easy to look like Newton in Borokiri Grammar School compared to MIT

ritchboy:

I think Cesc scored just 4 penalties last season. Sneijder takes more set pieces than Cesc so what are you on about? Should i begin to mention how many of Sneijder's goals at the WC were deflections or cross-come-shot-come-melo-own-goal?

what about direct freekicks that led to directly to goals or indirectly where a goal scored registered as cesc's assist? they don't count too?

This is a big lie. . . I'm the biggest fan of Dutch football on earth and i watched every minute of every Holland game. Van Persie was absolutely starved of any decent service by the Snejder-led midfield.

van persie was starved or van persie wasn't good enough to lead the line? pure bollocks. let's even say for argument's sake van persie wasn't fit enough in the world cup. can anyone deny sneijder's performance in that world cup final? the pass to set robben free one on one should actually be the pass of the tournament. robben will not score from a better chance in a final till he hangs his boot.

Another big lie. . . RVP is Arsenal's #1 dead-ball taker. Even when he isnt fit, Nasri, Rosicky, Arshavin and even Walcott take set-pieces regularly. Sneijder has been the first choice set piece taker in EVERY single team he's played so this excuse holds no water.

how many games did rvp play last season after getting crocked for holland? last season, van persie spent 1256 minutes on the pitch, cesc copped 2193 minutes. this season, cesc has copped 750 mins and van persie is far below with 158 mins. in van persie's absence, cesc has been the choice set-piece taker and he's taken his chances very well.  in inter milan, stankovic blasts those freekicks into the net, etoo seldom takes penalty kicks and you have cambiasso also taking indirect freekicks, sneijder takes them too but not in the frequency of cesc @ arsenal who is burdened with the task to do everything!

First class bollocks. . . Eboue, Walcott & Bentdner dont even start for Arsenal. The people who do i.e Arshavin & Nasri are BETTER FINISHERS than Cesc. Get a clue.

and when eboue, walcott and bendtner come on as subs and assist a goal for cesc, those don't count well for cesc? how can you compare cesc who largely operates in a mediocre team like arsenal to sneijder who has milito, etoo, pandev and stankovic as team-mates?

More weak excuses. . . Who is Inter built around? Julio Cesar?

it was built around carlos vela.

Am sure that Real was willing to pay 50m to get Cesc to replace Sneijder.

Even Xabi Alonso is considered better than Sneijder at Real.

I'm just using DK's Real Madrid player screening indices.

I honestly can't believe some punks are telling me that Sneijder is better than Fabregas. . .SO LETS LEAVE IT THERE!!!!

This thread is bookmarked for future reference.

Ibime:

Am sure that Real was willing to pay 50m to get Cesc to replace Sneijder.

Even Xabi Alonso is considered better than Sneijder at Real.

I'm just using DK's Real Madrid player screening indices.

I honestly can't believe some punks are telling me that Sneijder is better than Fabregas. . .SO LETS LEAVE IT THERE!!!!

This thread is bookmarked for future reference.

cesc might later go on to become greater than maradona but in 2010, he is no match to sneijder. cesc said so himself so i don't know what you are harping about. cesc named sneijder as one of the top 5 players in 2010 and you are here discussing cesc fabregas? don't you get ashamed of yourself with the hapless comments you make sometimes?

Nobody is talking about who deserves award in 2010. Of course the more successful guys would be in the running rather than the trophyless ones.

The question is simple: Who is better, Cesc or Sneijder.

Whether 2010, 2016 or 1966, Fabregas is Sneijders FATHER!!!

I am shocked Ibime a self acclaimed mathematician would neglect the time value of events.

Who was barrack obama in 1998 and who is he in 2010?

Who was Xavi in 2003 and who is he in 2010?

Who was justin Beibe in 2004 and who is he in 2010

I have said earlier

dayokanu:

In a couple of years "I go die" might become finer than Morris Chestnut. But we are talking about the moment.

Who ever thought a couple years ago that Nicki Minaj would be spinning heads, In a couple of years down the line she might be begging to sh@ me

Ibime:

Nobody is talking about who deserves award in 2010. Of course the more successful guys would be in the running rather than the trophyless ones.

The question is simple: Who is better, Cesc or Sneijder.

Whether 2010, 2016 or 1966, Fabregas is Sneijders FATHER!!!

in your opinion. go to interforum and ask this question and see what they tell you. you are too anglo-centric. any football game outside england is non-existent in your book. the same cesc that will not get a game for spain? tell me sneijder will not play for spain if he was a spaniard. . . .please say it.

Ibime:

Nobody is talking about who deserves award in 2010. Of course the more successful guys would be in the running rather than the trophyless ones.

The question is simple: Who is better, Cesc or Sneijder.

Whether 2010, 2016 or 1966, Fabregas is Sneijders FATHER!!!

ibime this doesnt make any sense. You cant discount time in events. I suspect this is a GAYYner posting as Ibime.

Ok WHo is better Ronaldinho or Xavi 2005 Now answer that same question in 2010. Note they are of the same age to even start with.

Who is better Kluivert or Nistelrooy, in 1998 or in 2003?

dayokanu:

ibime this doesnt make any sense. You cant discount time in events. I suspect this is a GAYYner posting as Ibime.

Ok WHo is better Ronaldinho or Xavi 2005 Now answer that same question in 2010. Note they are of the same age to even start with.

Who is better Kluivert or Nistelrooy, in 1998 or in 2003?

abeg forget ibime, he watches his football with his big ijaw incisors. making up fabregas to be what he isn't because of statistics. the same statistics told us berbatov has more creativity than fabregas in the premier league but that is not the whole truth. lampard has better statistics than xavi, i am amazed ibime is not dangling lampard's name in this argument yet.

Who is Sneijder going to replace for Spain? Xavi or Iniesta. Abeg jor! In the interest of climate change, please stop blowing hot air.

You would notice in previous argument that I placed Sneijder in the same category as Scholes, Schweinsteiger, Modric, VDV etc. I would never place him in Fabregas category cos Fabregas is in Xavi and Iniesta category.

And BTW, its now 100% certain that Cougar is Sauron. How else would he know that am a Lampardphile.

Ibime:

Who is Sneijder going to replace for Spain? Xavi or Iniesta. Abeg jor! In the interest of climate change, please stop blowing hot air.

You would notice in previous argument that I placed Sneijder in the same category as Scholes, Schweinsteiger, Modric, VDV etc. I would never place him in Fabregas category cos Fabregas is in Xavi and Iniesta category.

how did busquet become a spain international at the age of 19? pique nko? pedro nko? sneijder would find his spot in that team someway or somehow!

Ibime:

And BTW, its now 100% certain that Cougar is Sauron. How else would he know that am a Lampardphile.

i never knew your previous posts on this forum have been encrypted and only you and the chosen few can decipher them. if this is the depth of your intellect, i have massively overrated your intelligence quotient. apologies in that regard.

Ibime is finished.

No need flogging a dead horse.

First Debo, Now Ibime, Fake footie analysts need to be exposed on nairaland. Cougar, Lets go and find Nateevs, A40 or Starboard and seee the stuff they are made of or maybe they are just like Debo and Ibime. I need to start scrutinizing those i would be having footballing discussions with on this forum

Ibime:

You would notice in previous argument that I placed Sneijder in the same category as Scholes, Schweinsteiger, Modric, VDV etc. I would never place him in Fabregas category cos Fabregas is in Xavi and Iniesta category.

And BTW, its now 100% certain that Cougar is Sauron. How else would he know that am a Lampardphile.

Fabregas is in Xavis category? The same Ibime said Xavi is better than Zidane, By simple deduction it means Fabregas is better than Zidane. Really? No need to say more

dayokanu:

Ibime is finished.

No need flogging a dead horse.

First Debo, Now Ibime, Fake footie analysts need to be exposed on nairaland. Cougar, Lets go and find Nateevs, A40 or Starboard and seee the stuff they are made of or maybe they are just like Debo and Ibime. I need to start scrutinizing those i would be having footballing discussions with on this forum 

Fabregas is in Xavis category? The same Ibime said Xavi is better than Zidane, By simple deduction it means Fabregas is better than Zidane. Really? No need to say more

until ibime n debo show massive improvement, i won't get into a debate with them ever again. how can any sane human being open his mouth and say cesc is in the same category as xavi? in ibime's eyes, denilson is better than van bommel because denilson makes 500,000 passes per season.

"I Dey Laugh"

Hehehehehehehe.

We dey laugh for here O.

I'm guessing Cougar is planning to play Sneijder at DM. He would soon tell me Capdevila is better than Cesc cos Capdevila starts and Cesc doesn't.

HMMMMMMMMM!!!!!

@ Dayo, seperate man from myth. We are not talking about legacy here but skills on the day. Fabregas can school Zidane on any given day just like Rui Costa, Riquelme and such were able to school Zidane on certain days. Infact I'm sure Fabregas schooled him before, abi didn't they meet in UCL once?

Zidane may be greater than Del Piero but Alex outshined him 70% of the time at Juve. Why would it be silly to place Alex in Zidanes category? Because Zidane won Ballon D'or several times. Stop paying attentions to award jor.

I'm sure Cannavaro would go down as all time great, but I can put Rio Ferdinand in his category on any day of the week.

Ibime:

Hehehehehehehe.

We dey laugh for here O.

I'm guessing Cougar is planning to play Sneijder at DM. He would soon tell me Capdevila is better than Cesc cos Capdevila starts and Cesc doesn't.

a good man-manager will find a place for sneijder in that team. he's too good to be neglected. wesley sneijder must play! a complete box to box midfielder who is versatile and deliver 100% in every game he plays for you. if arsenal had sneijder all these years, they wouldn't have stalled for 6 years without a league title.

^^Lemme guess, SNEIJDER WOULD HAVE COPPED MORE THAN 19 GOALS AND 19 ASSISTS.

Hehehehehehehe.

Ibime:

^^Lemme guess, SNEIJDER WOULD HAVE COPPED MORE THAN 19 GOALS AND 19 ASSISTS.

Hehehehehehehe.

u don't have to cop 19 goals and 19 assists to be an excellent midfielder. michael essien is a world class midfielder, his best stat as a midfielder is not more than 6 goals and 6 assists throughout his career in chelsea but every team on the planet would buy michael essien if he's available tomorrow.

Ibime:

@ Dayo, seperate man from myth. We are not talking about legacy here but skills on the day. Fabregas can school Zidane on any given day just like Rui Costa, Riquelme and such were able to school Zidane on certain days. Infact I'm sure Fabregas schooled him before, abi didn't they meet in UCL once?

Zidane may be greater than Del Piero but Alex outshined him 70% of the time at Juve. Why would it be silly to place Alex in Zidanes category? Because Zidane won Ballon D'or several times. Stop paying attentions to award jor.

I'm sure Cannavaro would go down as all time great, but I can put Rio Ferdinand in his category on any day of the week.

Let me get you clear, Based on your own estimation Fabregas is better than Zidane.

I need a clear statement, And you have to swear to an affidavit to it. That statement can cost you your life

@ Cougar,

Lemme guess. Sneijder would win Arsenal the trophy (where Fabregas can't) by winning tackles and headers, or being better defensively (since he obviously can't score and assist like Fabregas).

You be real mumu. You have boxed yourself into a corner. Sneijder is no Essien. He can't do a single thing better than Fabregas whether passing, scoring, through balls or whatever. So STFU!!!

@ Dayo,

Stop playing the fool. Fabregas is on skill level with the greats. The only thing that seperates him from the greats is legacy. Two months ago you laughed when I told you Xavi is better than Zizou. Now Xavi is about to solidify his legacy by winning Ballon D'or. Shebi na ballon d'or you like to chop. Olodo, you no get brain for yourself? You dey wait make pesin win award before you recognise his talent. Now you dey open dat your big mouth to say "Xavis award is long overdue." See your head! Hehehehehehe

Don't worry, Ibime is a leading indicator while you continue to be lagging indicator. After Ibime says someone is great, you will wait till he receives award before agreeing. When I told EPL lovers that Schweinsteiger is currently one of the best midfielders, they had to wait to see him in World Cup before agreeing with me.

Don't worry, I will continue to alert football novices IN ADVANCE!

Hehehehehehehehe.

Infact I'm sure Fabregas schooled him before, abi didn't they meet in UCL once?

I remember that game quite vividly. . . 18 y/o Cesc ran so many circles around Zidane the little hair left on his head fell off!

Ibime:

@ Cougar,

Lemme guess. Sneijder would win Arsenal the trophy (where Fabregas can't) by winning tackles and headers, or being better defensively (since he obviously can't score and assist like Fabregas).

You be real mumu. You have boxed yourself into a corner. Sneijder is no Essien. He can't do a single thing better than Fabregas whether passing, scoring, through balls or whatever. So STFU!!!

this ibime is an obdurate football fan. sneijder is stronger physically and mentally. he would have galvanised that arsenal side into winning at least a trophy in the last 5 years. he has won 3 league titles in 3 different leagues and you dare compare him to a fabregas that cannot lift a talented arsenal side to win a domestic title in england - clubs like portsmouth and tottenham have achieved those and it's not about money. there's no point discussing this further - your blindness to bare facts is peerless.

Yes, Cougar, Sneijder will really teach Koscielny, Denilson and Clichy how to defend. He will even teach Almunia and Flappianski how to catch crosses.

We done hear you!!!

Although I'm sure he couldn't even lift Ajax above PSV in 6 years of trying, neither could he teach Gabriel Heinze how to defend. Infact I'm even sure that Guti put his @zz on the bench. I wonder why he can't galvanise Lucio and Walter Samuel to stop conceding 3 goals per match this season.

I'm sure you remember that last season and this, Fabregas kept Arsenal in the title race until he got injured.

CARRY GO!!!

Ibime:

@ Dayo,
Stop playing the fool. Fabregas is on skill level with the greats. The only thing that seperates him from the greats is legacy. Two months ago you laughed when I told you Xavi is better than Zizou. Now Xavi is about to solidify his legacy by winning Ballon D'or. Shebi na ballon d'or you like to chop. Olodo, you no get brain for yourself? You dey wait make pesin win award before you recognise his talent. Now you dey open dat your big mouth to say "Xavis award is long overdue." See your head! Hehehehehehe
Don't worry, Ibime is a leading indicator while you continue to be lagging indicator. After Ibime says someone is great, you will wait till he receives award before agreeing. When I told EPL lovers that Schweinsteiger is currently one of the best midfielders, they had to wait to see him in World Cup before agreeing with me.

Don't worry, I will continue to alert football novices IN ADVANCE!

Hehehehehehehehe.

I dont need all these long words

Xavi is better than Zidane, Fabregas and Iniesta are on Xavis level, That means fabregas and Iniesta are better thn Zidane

I just need you to agree or disagree with an affidavit to back it up.

Dont forget I let you off lightly earlier today when i caught you with a mighty goof.

This time, I would club you and smash that Gworro eating teeth

Ibime:

Yes, Cougar, Sneijder will really teach Koscielny, Denilson and Clichy how to defend. He will even teach Almunia and Flappianski how to catch crosses.

We done hear you!!!

Although I'm sure he couldn't even lift Ajax above PSV in 6 years of trying, neither could he teach Gabriel Heinze how to defend. Infact I'm even sure that Guti put his @zz on the bench. I wonder why he can't galvanise Lucio and Walter Samuel to stop conceding 3 goals per match this season.

I'm sure you remember that last season and this, Fabregas kept Arsenal in the title race until he got injured.

CARRY GO!!!

which title race? wesley sneijder won the treble and you are telling us fabregas kept arsenal in the title race? what won't i hear on this forum?so keeping arsenal in the title race since vieira has left arsenal is a bigger achievement than winning the treble for inter milan? you should be sent to jail for making such lewd comments on a sports forum. where was cesc when fletcher and carrick tore him a new arsehole at the emirates when he was in his pomp?

cesc is the microcosm of wesley sneijder. cesc has age on his side so he can get better but as of today, sneijder is the igwe. where were you when sneijder provided the defence splitting pass that sent etoo on his way to assault chelsea at the bridge? remember robben's first goal in south africa, who lobbed the 70 yards pass to send robben on his way to score? abeg, cesc is a cadet officer whilst sneijder is a midfield general.

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watch this video and compare the quality of cesc's distribution of the ball to general sneijder. compare the quality of opposition and what's at stake and tell me cesc is better? even a blind man can see sneijder is easily the better player. the way he strokes the ball and find his intended target is just world class.

@ Dayo,

Stop being an ignoramus. Fabregas has the skills to play pass Zidane level sef. Everything else is legacy, luck and fate. At Fabregas age, Zidane was still at Bordeaux. Let us see if fate is kind to Fabregas as it was to Zidane, that's all. Everything else is simply a matter of crossing Is and dotting Ts. You know me, I judge players on talent not awards. Fabregas has a LOOOOOONG WAY to go to gain the accolades, but skill for skill, Fab is certainly in the same category. Why not?

Ibime:

@ Dayo,

Stop being an ignoramus. Fabregas has the skills to play pass Zidane level sef. Everything else is legacy, luck and fate. At Fabregas age, Zidane was still at Bordeaux. Let us see if fate is kind to Fabregas as it was to Zidane, that's all. Everything else is simply a matter of crossing Is and dotting Ts. You know me, I judge players on talent not awards. Fabregas has a LOOOOOONG WAY to go to gain the accolades, but skill for skill, Fab is certainly in the same category. Why not?

now i believe you are a on a wind-up. cesc is better than zidane? you must be out of your mind. zidane and cesc fabregas? cesc with zero techniques is better than zidane? van persie is better than cesc technically and you dare compare cesc to zidane? now i know nairaland sports don kaphut!

@ Cougar,

Save the stories. I can show you Fabregas pass from two weeks ago better than any nonsense you just posted there. We dealt with Inter-Chelsea game severally at the time. There's nothing genius about playing through passes against Chelseas high line of defence. Even Nedum Onuoha can break through such high line. Sneijder should try that shyt with ten men behind the ball. . .cos that's exactly what Fabregas did in World Cup final after Sneijder and the rest had spent 120 min huffing and puffing, Fabregas just came in and blew the house down. AND DONT EVER COMPARE SNEIJDER AND FABREGAS WHEN IT COMES TO ASSISTS. All this one you dey show us na one of mere handful of assists that Sneider cops. Fabregas cops 20 assists year in, year out.