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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Curtisaxel7(m): 6:27pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
ChrisKels: And Keshi achieved all these with a more piss poor lowly rated average team than what we have today (the Mbas, Uchebos, Odunlamis, Egwuekwes, Oshaniwas.....). Just imagine if it were Keshi in charge today, with this present array of talents we presently boast of..... 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 6:28pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
ChrisKels: Lol chai this guy ,i pick point on what you said sha But omo you dey vex for rohr o |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:29pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
mank1234: Our set up was poor. Our ball movement atrocious. Our midfield got disorganised as soon as the South Africans started building from the back. Our play was so bad that I stopped watching at some point. Rohr has failed to give us an identity but I give him accolades for his results. Talent wise, we do have quality, especially if we adopt an intensive offensive set up. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 6:29pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe: Yes good results indeed are hard to achieve excuses upon excuses, little wonder Libya walloped Seychelles 1-8 whereas we were boasting of our 0-3 score against them. Rohr's effect on this team, is a negative one. KPOM! We brought him to build us war jets not weaklings. If he cant do that, he should be gone 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:30pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
The #RSANGA drama.... My Take - Part 2. Now to the other matters of the game... 1). On Ezenwa... I am sure you all noticed that Ezenwa was practically on holiday. He was not tested on bit and credits for that must go to the defensive shape of Balogun, Ekong and Omeruo. The only time they were actually bamboozled real good was by the magical Percy Tau (Who I did warn us to be careful of in my pre-match analysis). Percy was everywhere in attack for the Bafana Bafana. Their tactic was simple... Get the ball from the back, move to the base of the SA central/defensive Midfield area and launch a perfect "Route One" pass to the ever running and pacy Percy... And Pacy Percy did worry on several occasions but Balogun and Co did great to keep him quiet after that SA goal. Balogun produced a magical libero moment one time even when he robbed Pacy Percy of the ball, turned him 180' and galloped majestically into space away from danger and away from the Pacy Percy. Such Class from Balogun! Ekong too was great and so was Omeruo but Percy asked them both for their jersey numbers and they both obliged which led to the goal SA scored. Percy proved me right... He was always the danger man to watch alongside Mothiba who was there to tap in easily (A tap in that Nacho could not.... Make I just no talk... The exorcism is on). So in all, Ezenwa had nothing to do except to pick the ball once from his net. He was simply not tested at all at all... Even Khune made a save (albeit not a hot one) due to a beautiful Nacho-Musa interchange in the game's early goal mouth moments before the first wrongly cancelled goal by Nacho and before the goal created by Kalu. How Ezenwa got to start is also baffling to be honest... I was expecting Akpeyi in as much as I also was not comfortable with it... But it seems to me it would have been the same story for Akpeyi. In goal for 90 and properly protected by his back three. 2). Jamilu Collins needs to be more assertive. Yes, the lad clearly had talents. There were moments he was actually class in the way he ball-controlled and the way he also kept composure despite the fast pace of the game but he needs to be much more commanding up and down the left if he is gonna make that position his own. In all, he put in a decent showing but nothing spectacular. Hopefully he will still grow into the role. But he needs another left footed LB competition. Idowu cannot be his only competition as Idowu is even predominantly right footed. 3). Believe it or not... But Samuel Kalu is also an asset defensively. What a performance from him. Not only did he create the game's first goal with a fantastic piece of skill thanks to his quick feet and legs overs, but he also intervened and made a vital interception and tackle in the first half with Mothiba looking almost certain to draw level soon after Nigeria's first goal. He bombed up and down that right like he had played RWB before or have been doing so for some time. Kalu was impressive and did have a few moments where he always seemed to hug the ball too much but the lad is really really quality. It is little wonder we didn't see Chukwueze today. Kalu did his job very decently indeed as RWB both offensively and defensively. 4). Ogu is not as slow as people think... BUT... A legendary question once asked here is "Who is slower between Ogu and Mikel?" Well, today, Ogu did a decent job of shielding the back line of three... There were times he was beaten due to ball scrambles in Midfield or some misplaced passes and at times beaten for pace by the "Pacy" Percy but in all, he kept up with the general pace of the game and didn't panic one bit. He was decent today but we can certainly do better with a Philip Billing in Ogu's stead. Billing is not only faster than Ogu but also much taller and has greater strides and covers greater ground. Ogu is 30 or 31 and will need replacement (and an upgrade) after Afcon 2019. We cannot just sit and wait till then though. The earlier the better. 5). Musa have truly become the main stay of our attack in any formation whatsoever. It is ironic that a player who was once the butt of jokes on the laughing lips of many Nigerian fans have suddenly grown and matured into becoming a true leader of the side from the front and the first name on the team sheet in our attack dept in any formation be it 4-3-3, 3-5-2, 4-2-3-1/4-5-1... Musa will be key to Nigeria's Afcon assault without a doubt. His world ranking super pace is certainly a big worry for any defence on the continent. When was the last time Musa had a bad game in the GWG? Anyone remembers? Funny right... Even if you remember, it certainly was ages ago... 6). Etebo needs to do more than just running around in Midfield and ball retention. His passing has just got to improve. It was atrocious on some occasions today. Sometimes, he was chasing the game and ending up not doing his job but later settled into a manageable decent rhythm. He needs to keep working on his passing as Box-to-box midfield players or CMs won't be worth much if they cannot pass good enough consistently. 7). Iwobi was on and off... But his class still shone through at certain occasions in the game. Yes, Percy Tau the Pacy one stole the show as arguably the game's most impressive player but Alexander the Great was still able to show his flashes of beautiful class and brilliance with his ball works and ability to escape tight marking situations... The only problem is that he didn't create much today as his skills only shone through to escape his markers and find his fellow midfielders with a pass... Iwobi was well watched by Kekana and even tried to do beyond his role specs by pressing the SA defence which was a job for both Nacho and Musa to do consistently. This certainly reduced Iwobi's influence as the game wore on as the negative effects of the High altitude which is proportional to your Oxygen levels set in and saw Iwobi looking so lethargic on the ball so much that he was caught in possession and robbed of the ball on more than two occasions at critical game points... Thankfully, the defence led by Balogun stood tall and dangers were averted. Iwobi is a super quality player amd has got world class potentials but he needs to keep working on a side of his game that will see him master the art of the Midfield Orchestrator and game dictator. He has the genes and brains for it... He will get there. 8.) Our two legitimate goals ruled out.... The first goal was beautifully worked by Nacho into Musa's parh who was clearly onside and the pass was returned swiftly and smarlt by Musa for an easy Nacho tap in but the goal was unjustly cancelled ..... Case 1 The second goal came with Musa and Success both clearly onside.... But I think what may have confused the linesman in the second goal was the fact that Musa actually came back into an onside position from an initial offside position. But the Koko is this... Was Musa onside when the Iwobi pass was made into the path of Success and Musa? ANSWER IS YES! GOAL SHOULD HAVE STOOD ESPECIALLY AS JUSTICE FOR THE WRONGLY CANCELLED FIRST GOAL. I think the NFF should have to look into it to send out a message. And I was disappointed it happenend in a game where Gassama, famed to be one of Africa's best refs, officiated. This was the same ref that was in the centre for the Battle of Uyo between Nigeria and Cameroun that ended 4-0 in our favor and also was the ref when we beat Algeria 3-1 in Uyo. In all his games he has officiated involving the Super Eagles, we have never lost and he ahs almost always been fair and left each match with good testimonies but today, he just put a big question mark on his reputation. Gassama, Check yourself!!! 9). Gernot Rohr needs to be more daring as this young generation of Super Eagles talents are meant to flourish and truly fulfill their immense potentials under a more daring and more super Attacking approach. The Comeback Rise of Dutch football is not only because of the super talents they now have sprouting up all over the place but also becos they have a coach who is dynamic enough to utilise the best of them in order to truly bring out the best of them. In defence, Koeman pairs a 19 year old De Ligt with a 27 yr old Van Dijk... But a very experienced De Vrij who is 26 sits on the bench. A conservative would have gone for DE Vrij-Van Dijk CB pairing but Koeman went for the De Ligt + Van Dijk because it is simply the best in Dutch football in terms of talents and huge potentials. Rohr must be more dynamic and do same in the positions of the team that needs super injection and upgrade and also he has to incorporate a more attacking dominating approach to utilise the very best of our young and growing new "potentially Golden" generation of Super talents in the likes of Osimhen, Chukwueze, Iwobi, Iheanacho, Kalu, Onyekuru, Success, Ndidi, Simon Moses and many more. In all, Congratulations Nigeria.... We are back at the Afcon. Africa's Own World Cup. Excelsior Super Eagles!!! 8 Likes 1 Share
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 6:32pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
Joebie:I still say it wasn't a sh*tfest play wise some good passages of play led to goals that were disallowed. Yes the southies are no barca but I have seen them in recent times give the best on the continent a good game. Like I said before rohr is not some sacred cow who can't be called out. Like some other posters have said appreciate and respect the man we have qualified for the nations cup after 5 years there will be a time and place to interrogate his tactics. PS some people are funny baxter who could not qualify south africa for the world cup and is still not sure of qualifying for the nations cup is now a better manager lol 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 6:35pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
mank1234: There is a moment for Everything. Belgium was in oblivion for so many Years, but now they are back in the frame cos there are talented Players available for pick. This is our time in Africa, our Boys are doing considerably good at their respective Clubs but with Rohr in charge, I'm seeing no Light at the End of the Tunnel. We have Aina, yet Rohr experimented with Kalu as RWB. The same Rohr would keep playing Shehu as a RB bar injury, despite the fact that Shehu ain't the Position at his Club. I don't have time for long Epistle bro.......! 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:38pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
chrisooblog: Baxter would definitely have us playing better if he had our team and Rohr would definitely not get the South Africans playing as good as they did today with his kind of tactics. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 6:43pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
Curtisaxel7:Etebo is not a good ball winner or passer. Ogu isn't the most mobile. I don't know how good Ajayi is. The midfield was weak way from time and I thank God Rohr himself realized it. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 6:46pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe:Baxter is overrated. He's not a good tactician. Rohr is better 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 6:46pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe:yet same Baxter was clueless against Libya at home and Seychelles away grass always seems greener on the other side 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joxxy01(m): 6:49pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
why do I have a feeling that this match was fixed 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by nelszx: 6:51pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
How on earth are these offside calls? I think the NFF should petition the assistants to CAF and FIFA not because we've qualified but to serve as deterrent for others. To be fair I think VAR will be needed for the AFCON 9 Likes 2 Shares
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 6:54pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
Buh after every-every, Percy Tau is a baller. He made a mistake changing his position to from Omeruo's side to Balogun who was having a good game, otherwise, he would have stung us more than he did. Like I av always said, Collins is a liability, poor defending, wanting in attack, poor marking, poor ball sense. I dont see anything good in this boy, bar his handsome frame and red lips. Too bad, Idowu isnt helping matters either |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 6:56pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
My thing is this - half of the people who defend Rohr no matter what are the same ones who probably criticized Amodu despite him performing just as well or even better. Rohr's in game management is very suspect. Even a blind man can see that. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 6:56pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
The game had come and gone, and tomorrow our ladies square up against theirs, let hope there won't be cheat number 2, that being said, my talking POINTS I had noticed that when ever SA need to win a game, they usually take such game to FNB, and usually play such games during noon, question, is FNB now a fortress to SA |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Utonwanne(m): 7:00pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
ChrisKels: Is Collins really a liability? 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake2: 7:01pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
Curtisaxel7: I am not impressed by Rohr, but can you point out any tactical masterclass by Baxter today? Note that he has been handling this South African side for years and he has produced nothing with them 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 7:03pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
A loss against Eagles would av cost Baxter his job, Baxter had a meeting with Rohr last month in London, Rohr came up with a suspicious list of players to prosecute the match, he chose a questionable line up and he was all Smiles when calls were going against his team. Yet, some ppl wanna tell me, nothing happened behind closed doors? If only this nonsense was done by a local coach 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake2: 7:07pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
Rohr disappointed me today but those comparing him to Baxter should shut their mouth Rohr will qualify with this South African team 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake2: 7:09pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
[s] ChrisKels:[/s] This post is stupid Stop displaying your foolery on this thread 8 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake2: 7:11pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
ChrisKels: Collins was playing LWB for probably the first time in his career Like someone said, go and take a coaching career with your village team 10 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 7:14pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
I hope those of u that have been over rating Etebo can now agree with me that, dude is truly a carpenter, no wonder he gas been a bench warmer for lowly Stoke. Very poor player. Too bereft of ideas too be a midfielder for the Eagles. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 7:17pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
Curtisaxel7: They may probably not be called up sir. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:20pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
The best I’ve ever read from u. Very balanced and objective. My only objection, this was not the day for Iwobi to try to hold on to the ball longer. He failed consistently to pull some tricks. All he needed to do was keep it simple today and he would have got an A game regardless. . TheSuperNerd: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 7:22pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
So many rantings and foaming at the mouth on here. We bloody qualified!!!! Cut Rohr some slack please. He has the tactics, its the job of the players to translate that on the field. We were robbed today by dubious officiating. Is it Rohrs fault that Iheanacho couldn't trap a well weighted pass and score? There were lapses yes, but we got the job done at the end. Congrats to everyone. We favorites for Cameroon. 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 7:25pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
ChrisKels: Chriskels!!! Calm down. Put your thoughts together carefully before typing. I know world cup wounds is still fresh. Relax. Rohr soup dey fire, e never done. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 7:27pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
ChrisKels:Garbage! What are you doing 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 7:29pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
Curtisaxel7: Please and please! Rohr has achieved a lot in his career to be compared to Buhari. Please, take back your words. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 7:29pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
Oasis007:To be fair, Kalu has played as a wingback before at Gent. It's not a role Alien to him. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 7:31pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
edi287: I have had the opportunity to meet the late Amodu in South Africa during a corporate training in 2009. During the chat my colleagues and I had with him, this is what he said and I quote" you see a player in training, he has the right spirit and fight and as a coach you trust he will deliver on match day. On match day you see a completely different player". Guess thats what Rohr is going thru. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 7:31pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
nelszx:SA keep getting these suspect decisions in their favour. Make I no talk too much sha... |
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