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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:34pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
patrickmuf: Are you sure you are looking at the stats eph posted. Rotate it
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 5:47pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
All these useless arguments are boring. The addition of VVD to the Liverpool team has improved their defense and performance in games from last season. This is a simple matter. I don't know what people gain from being hypocritical and using double standard in looking at issues. Na wa o 7 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 6:06pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
raumdeuter:I noticed VVD's clearance and block are by far higher than others, especially clearance. Does this mean extra work or coverage? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 6:36pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
raumdeuter: I didn't watch the match so it's difficult to pass my verdict but from the highlights Belgium were comfortably leading before Switzerland went rampage on them.you can play excellently well and still lose a game.so carry your diabolical tag commot for my hazard head. Were your man city favourite players diabolical too when we won at ethihad 2 seasons ago? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:41pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
eph12: why will you be clearing balls like you are in Agege stadium when you can calmly play it out of the back |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:47pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
popizaino: When you lose 5-2 and Hidden created nothing in attack thats diabolical. His younger brother got 2 goals in the game but the twerker of the family Mr Shakushaku was probably waiting for penalties Ask those who watched and they will tell you Switzerland: Sommer (7), Klose (7), Rodriguez (7), Mbabu (7), Elvedi (6), Zuber (6), Xhaka (7), Freuler (6), Fernandes (7), Seferovic (-8-), Shaqiri (8-) Subs: Zakaria (6), Benito (5), Ajeti (5) Belgium: Courtois (6), Alderweireld (5), Kompany (5), Boyata (5), Meunier (5), Tielemans (5), Witsel (5), Chadli (5), T Hazard (7), Mertens (5), E Hazard (5) 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 6:55pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
raumdeuter:What's your opinion on the tackling stats there? From their passing stats sef, VVD is doing much better than the rest |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:58pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
raumdeuter:why are you so scared to tell us that Doherty is better than David Luiz because he has more fantasy point. Are you afraid that statement would come and bite you hard. FANTASY premier league |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:03pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
eph12: Interception is the most important part of a defenders job and how is he doing there |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:04pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
Afolabi6046: Of course Chelsea fan attribute because David Luiz and Doherty play the same role on the field. both are center backs or both are full backs |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 7:07pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
raumdeuter:I promise to answer you after you answer the questions I asked. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:14pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
eph12: Tackling is mainly high for defenders that are usually badly positioned Have you read what Maldini one of the greatest defenders ever said about tackles? Maldini: “IF I have to make a tackle then I have already made a mistake.” For VVD tackles to be that high will mean he makes a lot of mistakes and is very rash |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:21pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
eph12 example of such |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:33pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
patrickmuf: Is there a way you can get this stat? The only things I can see is that Allison has had to make 25 saves this season, Kepa 23, Ederson 19 DeGea 42. So after Man Utd Liverpool keeper is the one making the most saves, meaning he is the one probably facing the most shots Spurs and Arsenal have changed keepers many times this season Lloris and cech havent been stable in goal |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 7:52pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
raumdeuter:His tackles per match is lesser than others in his team. Does this means others are always poorly positioned and then he has to make more clearances to ease pressure? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by odizeey(m): 7:57pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
if to say na me dey argue this kind thing dem go don insult me. This man must be a lawyer, argue anything arguable. He fit argue say moon na sun and sun na moon. some gullible ones go believe 11 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 8:11pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
The problem is people just argue because Raumdeuter is involved. I am not sure anyone here is saying VVD is not good or that he is not partly responsible for LFCs improvements in defence. The issue is, some people have said he is solely responsible even attributing their getting to the UCL final to him alone and Raumdeuter is factually suggesting that the data does not justify this argument. La Porte only came up to challenge one of the "facts" that someone else tried to make when that person claimed LFC had conceded the least amount of goals since VVD showed up. La Porte was shown to have actually played in a team that has conceded less since that time and from there people who did not even follow the discourse started trying to make popular opinions. 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by odizeey(m): 8:17pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
Eruditor:bros did he improve the defense or not |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:28pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
Eruditor: You are a very brilliant man. Don't assume everyone will understand, you know that Chelsea fans are a very peculiar bunch 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:29pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
eph12: He makes less tackles in defence which is commendable but having to clear or budee the ball like an amateur playing at Agege stadium are some of these negatives. Look at the stat below for a defender 3yrs younger
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:30pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
odizeey: Did Robertson improve the defence or not? Did Gomez improve the Liverpool defence this season or not? Did ALlison improve the Liverpool defence or not? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by EarthXmetahuman: 8:38pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
Eruditor:follow the arguement. People singled out vvd for being exceptional in liverpool defence just like people single out messi/ronaldo. that doesn't mean other defenders are not contributing to the defense liverpool is currently enjoying. But as usual, because raumdeuter doesn't like to be wrong, he has to crap all over vvd and elivate some else while everyone goes crazy trying to prove someone that will never accept he is wrong wrong. 9 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:45pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
EarthXmetahuman: Messi and Ronaldo are exceptional in their team offence, they lead in goals + assists way ahead of others. Sometimes Messi and Ronaldo score 50-60 goals a season VVD has not been significantly better than others in Liverpool defence while Messi/Ronaldo are head shoulders and knees above everyone in their teams offence 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by odizeey(m): 8:53pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
EarthXmetahuman:no mind that man. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 8:56pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
eph12:I am tired of arguing over something we shouldn't be arguing about at all. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:58pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
For example this first claim BlackManta: When I checked the stats, I found out it was a big lie that Laporte has conceded fewer |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:59pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
patrickmuf: Its basic logic Are you watching Germany vs Holland, Do you see the role of VVD in the goal Holland conceded. VVD vs Gnabry duel leading to that goal I am sure they will blame everyone including Karius for that goal |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 9:06pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
Holland has just conceded the second goal within 20mins But but but Buhari Trump and Obasanjo Leadership The number 1 moroonn on this forum last week was showing highlights of Deligt tagging VVD with it 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 9:10pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
raumdeuter:Between VVD and LaPorte, who faces more pressure in defense? Negatives to who? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 9:13pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
patrickmuf:I am not even sure what this argument is about sef. is it that VVD is a bad defender or that he is good but others in his team do better than him or that he's not the key man in that defense. I don't exactly what it is |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 9:15pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
raumdeuter:with all your acclaimed education, what does this screenshot suggest abeg? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by odizeey(m): 9:17pm On Nov 19, 2018 |
eph12:the arguement no get head. baba just be like elamps wen like to dey argue against the tide to show supremacy |
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