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Jonraid:
Nigerians have a thing with dark skins,maybe they find it ugly. Seems everyone is either lightskin or white in Nigeria!

It's like only dark skinned people love dark skin. But the light skinned Africans find the dark ones ugly. The dark skinned like it because they have no choice but accept what they look. Some leave it as it is then some bleach, which makes them look like a Zebra.

This isn't correct, I don't have to be dark skinned to like the color. Here in Ethiopia also we have light skinned and dark skinned people. Because I am not dark, I am not going to go ahead and say 'We Ethiopians are dark skinned but i am not'.

MAJORITY AFRICANS ARE DARK SKINNED AND SO I AM. Stop being individualists.. .

Jonraid:
We have reached a level where the government is investing billions of dollars in infrastructure like never before.We are experiencing an infrastructure boom but still we are 'a work in progress',we haven't reached there yet.We are not the finished article yet but I love the passion from the government in improving our infrastructure.Already,we are one of Africa's infrastructure powerhouses.There is still a deficit though in terms of funding,but what keeps us afloat is that everyone wants to work with us,the PPP(Public Private Partnership) model should ease our treasury balance sheets.Already roads,energy projects,homes and dams have recently seen investments through PPP.A british firm has already agreed constructing a 2 billion dollar dam without the government contributing a cent.We've signed multi billion deals recently with development partners like the EU and UN for the period 2018-2022.What makes it cool is that infrastructure is one of President Uhuru's agenda as he looks to end his final term.The man is keen to implement his agenda so as to secure his 'legacy'.The man is more ruthless and workaholic as he wants to leave back a vibrant country.Nothing will stop him from implementing his agenda(THE BIG FOUR AGENDA)We are heading in the right direction and I can see us reaching there,watch this space!

References/links

https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/British-firm-gets-nod-to-build-mega-dam-in-Kenya/539546-4787886-py7qbpz/index.html

https://www.afdb.org/en/projects-and-operations/selected-projects/lake-turkana-wind-power-project-the-largest-wind-farm-project-in-africa-143/

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2018/09/04/more-chinese-private-investors-line-up-for-public-partnerships_c1813629

https://eeas.europa.eu/delegations/kenya/53618/eu-and-kenya-hold-consultations-launch-joint-cooperation-strategy_en

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-06/26/c_137282595.htm

It's good of him to be working towards a memorable legacy , it seems very few African leaders are keen on that.

Yesterday it was 39B - today it's 38B. 2016 our banking asset were 4.1 trillion Kshs - which google convert to 39.9B dollars..round it off to 40B.
Yours is 34B - which round off come to 95B dollars - but for 2017. For 2016 you're looking at 87B.

forgiveness:

Are you getting those facts from your anus?

Your banking assets is $38b dollars as at 2016. Stop lying.

Your revenue is on the low.

The links were given. Just click.

rvp2018:
Pedestrian analysis; When you find better data of fcmg comparing kenya, south africa and nigeria - be my guest.

Deloitte is the biggest accounting firm in the world. If you don't agree with it, that is your cup of coffee.

Don't fool yourself.

Jonraid:
I know a Somali food known as Anjera and yes Injera is a player of Kenya rugby,he's either number one or two in the number of all tries scored in the rugby seven series.I'm yet to know what Injera means! But I'll find it out just for you

Thanks!

ednited:


It's like only dark skinned people love dark skin. But the light skinned Africans find the dark ones ugly. The dark skinned like it because they have no choice but accept what they look. Some leave it as it is then some bleach, which makes them look like a Zebra.

This isn't correct, I don't have to be dark skinned to like the color. Here in Ethiopia also we have light skinned and dark skinned people. Because I am not dark, I am not going to go ahead and say 'We Ethiopians are dark skinned but i am not'.

MAJORITY AFRICANS ARE DARK SKINNED AND SO I AM. Stop being individualists.. .

Hahahahaha, I just had to quote you on that. And it's so disgusting to look at.

ednited:


You guys are serious in rugby lol. You guys have a player named 'injera' right? 'Injera' is our food here. . .

What do Injera mean in your country language?

injera is a luhya name luhya is a tribe in Kenya

rvp2018:
Yesterday it was 39B - today it's 38B. 2016 our banking asset were 4.1 trillion Kshs - which google convert to 39.9B dollars..round it off to 40B.
Yours is 34B - which round off come to 95B dollars - but for 2017. For 2016 you're looking at 87B.

Nigeria bank assets before devaluation of currency would be twice of $95b dollars. So if you talk about 2016, Kenya's bank don't stand a chance.

Lionessza6:



Hahahahaha, I just had to quote you on that. And it's so disgusting to look at.

Hehe, seriously. They bleach a lot. Their face is insanely white and their other body is insanely black. Sorry to say this but when you even look at them. . . you feel like their face don't belong to their body. It makes to different parts

Imagine how whites feel for us. If I was white, I would go like 'these people are so much trying to look like me'

tlann:
injera is a luhya name luhya is a tribe in Kenya

Really? wow, thanks for the info. Never heard of the name 'luhya'. Only know the massai tribe in kenya

Sound like a lame excuse - all currency devalued to the dollar (Kshs was 78 then shoot to 100sh) - obviously if we use the real black market exchange rate for Naira - which is what you real get - not CBN rate - then you'll be worse off.

Your overvalued currency is still not done with beating - real rate is something 400 naira plus. Just wait for oil price to drop.

forgiveness:

Nigeria bank assets before devaluation of currency would be twice of $95b dollars. So if you talk about 2016, Kenya's bank don't stand a chance.

Every president in Kenya was keen to leave behind a legacy,you know? The presidents want to stand up one day long after retirement and brag that they did this or that,I find this cool by the way! The man Uhuru Kenyatta is also keen to have that long lasting legacy.I'm afraid he will have to do much.But with the right moves,he will do it!

The 'legacy talk' is so big that even the media are doing it.They are discussing what the president might be remembered for when he leaves his office!

The president was wowed when a young girl student asked him about his legacy



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VArrcUZ_U5k?t=36

Lionessza6:


It's good of him to be working towards a memorable legacy , it seems very few African leaders are keen on that.

bantudra:


not in nigeria....nigerians are extrem individualits....

no goverment would dare piss them off....
dont forget,we are many empires pressed toghether in a map....

Then your governments are useless.

ednited:


Really? wow, thanks for the info. Never heard of the name 'luhya'. Only know the massai tribe in kenya

kenya has around 44 tribes not only maasai, maasai are famous bcoz of their culture

Lionessza6:


Lol, I saw give us 18 months to fix ourselves not 15 years . Our last technical recession lasted for about 6 months, the one before that about 8, so we ain't exactly new to things like this, that is why we are the model of Africa . This time it's even more exciting , there is a lot at stake and a whole lot to gain. The best time to test our democracy and sovereignty is
now , and even better to bring in more competion and kick arse in many non- mineral sectors not only in Africa but globally. South Africa has spent so much money developing skills and expertise on these sectors for close to two decades now , so it's time to see if it was all a waste or we did what most of Africa clearly missed when they gained the so called " independence ". It's either we are going to join the masses in Africa who have all the lands at their disposal yet are wallowing in poverty and extreme poverty or we will be the odd ones out once again . We know many can't wait for us to join them in their miseries , that is why most always reference the Mugabe decision when they are talking about what is currently going on in south Africa,yet none can show us any similarities between the two besides the obvious.

Ok you dont have to attack us in style We can only wait and see what you have in store for us. Somehow I think Ramaphosa is way to smart to mess the economy like Mugabe. He'd know where to put the breaks. Whats the plan tho? I still dont know what you have settled on. Can I chip in? The best would be to take a few lands per annum. Do it like lottery where all white farmers play and the unfortunate winners get their land taken off. It would be a very exciting game on national TV. And start with all the white south african dudes on this thread

As the world moves towards less fossil fuel driven economies. I don't know where Nigerians would stand! At that time,governments would be using more of cleaner sources of energy! Dubai and Saudi Arabia are already planning to cut their reliance on oil! Nigeria should diversify more than they have now because let's face it,oil still contributes significant amounts of revenues for them.They may say that they are a diversified lot but up till now,when the oil price per barrel changes the economy goes with that change!

rvp2018:
Sound like a lame excuse - all currency devalued to the dollar (Kshs was 78 then shoot to 100sh) - obviously if we use the real black market exchange rate for Naira - which is what you real get - not CBN rate - then you'll be worse off.

Your overvalued currency is still not done with beating - real rate is something 400 naira plus. Just wait for oil price to drop.

A fifty fifty arrangement would be much safer,the lands not in use by the white farmers might also be repossessed back.Taking all of it from the white farmers would be a huge gamble.The continuous growing of the economy is one thing and satisfying the black masses in expense of the economy is another.Anyway,they should come up with a win win plan for all or else risk taking their economy down on a downward trajectory!

TayserMahiri:


Ok you dont have to attack us in style We can only wait and see what you have in store for us. Somehow I think Ramaphosa is way to smart to mess the economy like Mugabe. He'd know where to put the breaks. Whats the plan tho? I still dont know what you have settled on. Can I chip in? The best would be to take a few lands per annum. Do it like lottery where all white farmers play and the unfortunate winners get their land taken off. It would be a very exciting game on national TV. And start with all the white south african dudes on this thread

Lionessza6:

I'm glad you said you " think ". Firstly you are the ones spreading rumours here grin, trump never said anything of tjat sort , it was the usual media with their fake arse news that released that senseless statement. The trump presidency and the American embassy in the capital of South Africa debunked the statement and distanced themselves on any American interferences on the process . The only people losing sleep over the land expropriation programme in south Africa are mostly right wing hillbillies in America, England , Australia and Israel and we all know why, and well ...there is nothing they can do about it lol. They are trying very much to push us to pull a zim , and we ain't falling for it one bit cheesy. We know even some pained Africans are wishing for it so that we would become another Africa that got their independence and land and then starved to death , it ain't happening grin. South Africa is South Africa, we are aware of our strengths and weaknesses even at our young age , in fact we seem to be more self aware than most of the old " independent " nations who seem to be only finding themselves in their 40s and 50s , I guess we are dealing with mostly later bloomers here cheesy. As for malema , I actually like his presence in our politics, in as much as he irritates me at times , he adds another flavour to the whole thing cheesy. South Africa is the home of diversity in Africa afterall , so it should reflect in opinions and actions as well. The world knows Malema first make decisions in south Africa but no one can deny his role in shaping our current politics , and he is here to stay whether people like it or not.

Trump physically tweeted about it to his legion of white supremos. You can check his handle. He actually tagged Fox News. Expect sanctions if you start any of those expropriations.

Malema is a good character for politics, not actions. I keep asking whats your plan but you dont tell. Is it a national secret?

rvp2018:
I didn't set out to be condescending and I didn't expect you to be defensive. The last four years have been rough for South Africa economy - growing on average at 1-2% when not contracting - and the next four years do not look good either. I am not even sure if you should confront land and mine issues anymore. It appears you're just unprepared - expropriation without compensation!!! - how is that different from Bob's land seizure. I mean your entire agriculture is already less than 5% of the economy. There is a mad man at White house who is pandering to right-wing whites and won't hesitate to add South Africa to his list of causalities - Iran, Turkey, China and everyone along the way...so the timing is wrong and Ramaphosa as politically awkward as he is should not have fallen to Malema rouse. The world tours will not be enough to bring whites to the country. The country has to start re-configuring to China.With regard to unemployment, crime, mining woes linked to Unions and xenophobia - I guess those are already intractable issues but I wish you best luck.

Regarding Kenya - we started with smaller white problem compared to Zim & South Africa - but nevertheless it was huge problem. I think Kenya hosted the largest number of white settlers after the Zim & RSA I think. They occupied maybe 1-2m acres of the most fertile land - and at independence - we send 60,000 white farmers out of their farms - by compensating them.

We took a huge loan from World Bank and Britain - and compensated all white farmers who were "willing" to sell the land. Those who were not so willing were arm-twisted by gov officials and eventually they bailed out. Zim waited for I think free money from Britain to compensate those white farmers and of course that never came. Nobody will give your money to buy a farm - maybe to feed a starving kid.

I think land seizures like Zim or expropriation without compensation will be your death knell. You have to deal with whites farmers with more adeptness - and be as sly as we were - just find "un-official" means to force them to sell the land. If you don't have money to compensate them - take a big loan - to be repaid by farmers. Now where in the world will people accept exportation without compensation even if you clothe it with the entire constitution. It ab initio inhumane, unfair and unacceptable.

Why is Kenya poor with all the land - is a long story - but definitely we've made our small holder farmers very productive - and we are slowly climbing out of the rabbit hole of poverty. After kicking whites our economy grew at 7% for a decade until the global oil crisis and in 80s we just got caught in population explosion as our women gave birth to 10 kids ---and then went through political turmoil of 90s - but definitely since 2003 we've grown our economy nearly 7-8 times (15 yrs) - and hopefully if we do the same in the next 15yrs --- we should talking an economy bigger than yours - unless you deal with issues that are bedeviling you now.

Condescending and defensive , i guess we both chose to see our posts how we wanted .

I don't know how repeating what I already touched on with regards to growth ( particularly in Agriculture ) shows us how unprepared we are?. I told you there are plans on how the sector will be revived , obviously you can't expect to have that particular sector flourish when it's the most affected by this decision. With regards to bringing in whites to the country , what do you mean by that ?. South Africa is trading less and less with the West and more with East , we have been strengthing our relationships not only with the other countries in BRICS but other Asian and Middle East countries. Well We will have to brace ourselves for the trump "attack " and see how well we can withstand the Tsunami .

You payed them ? . Good for you, but did the poor people you gave the lands to ( If you did,) not sell them back for peanuts?. How did the British got to be so involved in your agricultural sector again?. Lol@ you advising to be sly like you, I guess we will have to take our own chances and be less- sly about it . If we were convinced the Kenyan route was really favourable for the populace , I'm sure it would have been one of the countries looked at closely , but we just don't see it as something to emulate as we don't see any favourable results for the day to day Kenyan. It's been over 50 years since you " kicked out" the brits , so I think by now you should be the ones majorly using the land for manufacturing , etc than the people who benefited before you, but that doesn't seem to be the case but you can cure my ignorance if I'm wrong , perhaps you first had to settle the loans before attending to the major issues of the previously disadvantaged?

Well I'm always keen on reading up on such issues especially coming from the indigenes , I'm referring to the poverty in Kenya . If you can , please do the needful because I find it really interesting. Well I also wish you the best of luck in your quest to be a bigger economy than us in 15 years .

ednited:


Your post remind me of the fight that Kenyans and Nigerians had on Twitter, saying one is dark skinned more than the other. . . .

First, we all are Africans, being dark skinned and is our thing. Both of you are dark skinned people.

Secondly, why is it being taken as a problem having dark skin? Who said it is bad?

Here also, you are talking about nose. I see inferiority in your post. You are making Africans inferior here. And then you are talking about how you Kenyans are making Africa rise. It clashes. Before you talk about that, respect who you are and where you came from. Or else, no one will. Because you have a thin and long nose, it doesn't mean you have to go ahead and say some about others? Who even said yours is better?

I just don't know why you broght this up in here. It may be a joke but there are acceptable jokes. Tayser, what happened to you?

I dont want to accuse you of being myopic my lady. But you should have noticed that the Nigerian guy I quoted brought this nose thing as a way to say we Kenyans are not Africans. Why wouldnt you correct the guy first? Is it because we Kenyans are held to higher standards? Is it because Nigerians are expected to say anything because they have no standards nor morals and Kenyans shouldnt say anything because we are expected to know better?

By now you should have noticed my general approach to Nigerians. I havent changed. The best way to handle Nigerians is to take them right where they want and whoop them there. They bring nose thing, you take them deeper and whoop them, they bring color thing, you go deeper still and whoop them. They are like illiterates. You have to handle them like that. Its unfortunate that most of you dont know to handle uncivilised beings.

We are still in the retail sector.

GRDI ranked Nigeria 27th in the world in retail development in 2017. Drops from 19th in 2016. Yet Nigeria's total retail sales was $109b dollars in 2017 against $125b dollars in 2016. (See snapshot 1)

Though, Kenya's GRDI ranking was 25th in 2017 but it's total retail sales is just $28b dollars which is almost 4 times lesser than Nigeria's total retail sales in 2017. Bhuhahahaha! (See snapshot 2)

As you can see the 3rd snapshot, Nigeria has trashed Kenya in all the service sector listed. We shall move to Real Estate.

TayserMahiri:


Trump physically tweeted about it to his legion of white supremos. You can check his handle. He actually tagged Fox News. Expect sanctions if you start any of those expropriations.

Malema is a good character for politics, not actions. I keep asking whats your plan but you dont tell. Is it a national secret?

Trump' s stuff and the American embassy in south Africa debunked the tweet as fake news .

Malema is good at what he does and does entertain us , but he is no decision maker in south Africa. There is a reason why he doesn't rule any town or city in south Africa , we enjoy his presence in parliament and the streets only . We have no plan, we will join our African brothers and swim to Europe , or start jumping boarders looking for food lol.

rvp2018:
Sound like a lame excuse - all currency devalued to the dollar (Kshs was 78 then shoot to 100sh) - obviously if we use the real black market exchange rate for Naira - which is what you real get - not CBN rate - then you'll be worse off.

Your overvalued currency is still not done with beating - real rate is something 400 naira plus. Just wait for oil price to drop.

Nigeria financial services industry revenue is times 5 of Kenya's financial services. Next! Bhuhahahaha!

Jonraid:
A fifty fifty arrangement would be much safer,the lands not in use by the white farmers might also be repossessed back.Taking all of it from the white farmers would be a huge gamble.The continuous growing of the economy is one thing and satisfying the black masses in expense of the economy is another.Anyway,they should come up with a win win plan for all or else risk taking their economy down on a downward trajectory!

Lets wait for Lioness. The good thing with SA is that they are having a national convo about it. Blacks, whites, coloreds, all of them. So its possible they will settle on a plan that works for all instead of following Mugabe style.

If Injera and Anjera correlate then I can say that I've taken the meal.There are Ethiopian restaurants in Nairobi BTW,maybe I should go there? It

seems that Injera is a household name in the horn of Africa,including here in Kenya.Have you personally taken some Injera?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1exTIxVkaE?t=65


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLfcaMSgyPQ?t=1


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xjx5kjR2vc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np82kB2xIAU?t=2

rvp2018:
Injera is ethiopia staple food - made from tuft or rice - more like bread - with toppings.

Jonraid:
A fifty fifty arrangement would be much safer,the lands not in use by the white farmers might also be repossessed back.Taking all of it from the white farmers would be a huge gamble.The continuous growing of the economy is one thing and satisfying the black masses in expense of the economy is another.Anyway,they should come up with a win win plan for all or else risk taking their economy down on a downward trajectory!

There is a reason why there were national engagements . There is no one town that wanted white people not to own land in south Africa, but the question was the " how much should be left for them". So it's only rumours from war mongering media houses that white people will not be given their stake , but it definitely won't be 50% , that's ridiculous .

If its by swimming,I'm afraid that's going to be a long swim! You might as well ask our West African brothers how they do it!

Lionessza6:


Trump' s stuff and the American embassy in south Africa debunked the tweet as fake news .

Malema is good at what he does and does entertain us , but he is no decision maker in south Africa. There is a reason why he doesn't rule any town or city in south Africa , we enjoy his presence in parliament and the streets only . We have no plan, we will join our African brothers and swim to Europe , or start jumping boarders looking for food lol.

Lionessza6:


There is a reason why there were national engagements . There is no one town that wanted white people not to own land in south Africa, but the question was the " how much should be left for them". So it's only rumours from war mongering media houses that white people will not be given their stake , but it definitely won't be 50% , that's ridiculous .

Do u even know dat with your white people if Nigeria 2nd south Africa should engage in a battle or war SA WNT see d light of d day

blackboys:
post pictures of your 200m nigger country.without pics n facts you are as just irrelevant.abusive language wont provide electricity in that dark country.keep abusing kenyans it just proves you lost

How can the giant of Africa lose? We aren't slaves like you folks and we will do everything within our powers to liberate Kenya and other African countries from the shackles of colonialism.

Boko Haram says hi!

4kDdullard:
How can the giant of Africa lose? We aren't slaves like you folks and we will do everything our powers to liberate Kenya and other African countries from the shackles of colonialism.

Lionessza6:


Condescending and defensive , i guess we both chose to see our posts how we wanted .

I don't know how repeating what I already touched on with regards to growth ( particularly in Agriculture ) shows us how unprepared we are?. I told you there are plans on how the sector will be revived , obviously you can't expect to have that particular sector flourish when it's the most affected by this decision. With regards to bringing in whites to the country , what do you mean by that ?. South Africa is trading less and less with the West and more with East , we have been strengthing our relationships not only with the other countries in BRICS but other Asian and Middle East countries. Well We will have to brace ourselves for the trump "attack " and see how well we can withstand the Tsunami .

You payed them ? . Good for you, but did the poor people you gave the lands to ( If you did,) not sell them back for peanuts?. How did the British got to be so involved in your agricultural sector again?. Lol@ you advising to be sly like you, I guess we will have to take our own chances and be less- sly about it . If we were convinced the Kenyan route was really favourable for the populace , I'm sure it would have been one of the countries looked at closely , but we just don't see it as something to emulate as we don't see any favourable results for the day to day Kenyan. It's been over 50 years since you " kicked out" the brits , so I think by now you should be the ones majorly using the land for manufacturing , etc than the people who benefited before you, but that doesn't seem to be the case but you can cure my ignorance if I'm wrong , perhaps you first had to settle the loans before attending to the major issues of the previously disadvantaged?

Well I'm always keen on reading up on such issues especially coming from the indigenes , I'm referring to the poverty in Kenya . If you can , please do the needful because I find it really interesting. Well I also wish you the best of luck in your quest to be a bigger economy than us in 15 years .

Dont get worked up Lioness. We are trying all we can to keep this civil because we dont want to hurt your ego. Though we kicked out the British, once we were satisfied that the vast majority had left we decided to keep a few. So after most had left, Kenyatta called the few remaining ones (less than a thousand) to a meeting and told them; Ok now lads! You can stay here and be as Kenyan as any. Those ones had their land back. And the reason they were kept is because Kenyatta could see what Mugabe couldnt. That you needed skills to run those farms, right after independence - because we had little to none.