Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 5:46pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
tlann: Nakuru is better than that Ibadan of yours u mean tiny section of the city centet which is the CBD...? a size smaller than university of Ibadan. ? 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:50pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
Kazikazi: Hellooo Kenyans.. Why do you hate me here? What did I do? I never insulted you guys,never.I am your neighbor too.We are all Africans,let's leave in harmony!!!! I know how you are hurt.I know how your pride is disappearing. I know how ashamed you are for those 'Harare' pics you were trying to masquerade as Kenyan.I know how painful it is to find you are no longer a tourism hub in east Africa but Tanzania. I know how bad you feel now when all people sees you for who you are..full of empty pride. You jealous Tanzanians are the ones who keep on sprouting your hatred towards Kenyans because as I am typing this,you people keep on creating Kenyan related threads in your own swahili government censored Jamii forum and talking ill about us including Kenya's internal affairs,it's the same to some of these lifeless Nigerians here when they created this thread to draw our attention to them. This shows how you're thirsty for attention and stuffs. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:56pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
TayserMahiri:
What are you saying? your phone might fall into the black toxic Makoko water ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:01pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
68816419:
but this article says other wise...(its says, the slums issues would in future increase even more) makoko is mostly occupied by other west Africans, and half of the buildings has been demolished....
the article says that slums are increasing in Nairobi but our government is doing the opposite demolishing slums and building roads and social houses so where did those people go those that their houses were demolished in makoko did your govt compensate them like our government 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 6:01pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
Today i will be dealing with Kazikazi specifically...... http://www.outboundexcursions.com/dar-es-saalam/slum-tours-in-dar-es-salaamSLUMS IN TANZANIA DARESALAM This is an essential part of Dar es Salaam where there are slum tours that tours and travel agency organize for their visitors, this are like: Temeke, Dodoma, Ilala, Kiondoni, Moshi, Mtoni, Taundika, Mbagala, Kijichi, Kariokor, among many more. Dar es Salaam Tanzania has one of the third largest slum growth rates in the whole of Africa. Slums that develop in Tanzania's cities to travel to are over 6% in a year’s time. The population of the people in those slums is also rated as the sixth in the whole Africa region. It is also fascinating to learn that Tanzania has over six million of its people living in the slums
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by blackboys: 6:04pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
Kur17: These ugly "yellow fever" PSVs need someone to modify them...I business opportunity for Kenyans, cz Kenyans are the best in that worldwide what are those?! |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:04pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
68816419:
u mean tiny section of the city centet which is the CBD...? a size smaller than university of Ibadan. ? Ibadan is big because is overpopulated it is infrastructure cannot beat that of Nakuru does Ibadan have running water 24hr electricity throughout the year how about shopping malls 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 6:04pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
Kenyanstar: Today i will be dealing with Kazikazi specifically...... http://www.outboundexcursions.com/dar-es-saalam/slum-tours-in-dar-es-salaam SLUMS IN TANZANIA DARESALAM This is an essential part of Dar es Salaam where there are slum tours that tours and travel agency organize for their visitors, this are like:
Temeke, Dodoma, Ilala, Kiondoni, Moshi, Mtoni, Taundika, Mbagala, Kijichi, Kariokor, among many more. Dar es Salaam Tanzania has one of the third largest slum growth rates in the whole of Africa. Slums that develop in Tanzania's cities to travel to are over 6% in a year’s time. The population of the people in those slums is also rated as the sixth in the whole Africa region.
It is also fascinating to learn that Tanzania has over six million of its people living in the slums desperado, the article says "Kenya" occupies the first position. hahahahhaah 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:08pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
Kenyanstar: Today i will be dealing with Kazikazi specifically...... http://www.outboundexcursions.com/dar-es-saalam/slum-tours-in-dar-es-salaam SLUMS IN TANZANIA DARESALAM This is an essential part of Dar es Salaam where there are slum tours that tours and travel agency organize for their visitors, this are like:
Temeke, Dodoma, Ilala, Kiondoni, Moshi, Mtoni, Taundika, Mbagala, Kijichi, Kariokor, among many more. Dar es Salaam Tanzania has one of the third largest slum growth rates in the whole of Africa. Slums that develop in Tanzania's cities to travel to are over 6% in a year’s time. The population of the people in those slums is also rated as the sixth in the whole Africa region.
It is also fascinating to learn that Tanzania has over six million of its people living in the slums daresalaam is also the largest city in east africa in terms of population but when it comes to economics nairobi has the gdp of whole tz how do you explain that ![](/faces/huh.png) ? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kenyanstar: 6:16pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:17pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
68816419:
desperado, the article says "Kenya" occupies the first position. hahahahhaah Kenya occupies position 1 because NGOs want to steal from international donors they said kibera has a population of 2.5million people while in real life kibera has population of 176k you should read about an article of kibera missing numbers |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 6:22pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
tlann: Ibadan is big because is overpopulated it is infrastructure cannot beat that of Nakuru does Ibadan have running water 24hr electricity throughout the year how about shopping malls Google is your best bet, just type malls in Ibadan, hospitals, recreation facilities and any other thing you need , also don't forget that Ibadan is the capital of Oyo state, Oyo state has other cities in it. what's the capital of Nakuru? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 6:24pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
tlann: Kenya occupies position 1 because NGOs want to steal from international donors they said kibera has a population of 2.5million people while in real life kibera has population of 176k you should read about an article of kibera missing numbers and what's ur government doing to stop this so called NGO from spoiling your so called image? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:36pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
68816419:
Google is your best bet, just type malls in Ibadan, hospitals, recreation facilities and any other thing you need , also don't forget that Ibadan is the capital of Oyo state, Oyo state has other cities in it. what's the capital of Nakuru? Nakuru is the capital of Nakuru county nakuru has also major resort centres like naivasha where an inland port and industrial park is being constructed this is where you will find our flower farms and i know you you have heard of Kenya flower industry you can also Google about the shopping malls in Nakuru county also this is where you will find africa largest georthermal stations and just recently our first lady opened one of the largest maternity wing in our country 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:38pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
68816419:
and what's ur government doing to stop this so called NGO from spoiling your so called image? if you know Uhuru Kenyatta government very well it has always been against NGOs and it has revoked many licenses of NGOs some of the international NGOs have been chased away |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 6:42pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
Runalong333:
My friend , you have said nothing here . The South African girl asked you for your literary rate and so did I, where is the ranking ?. She asked you to provide the number of educated Kenyans at independence vs those in south Africa ( black ), we are yet to see this .
I said black kenyans got their independence in 1963 and the South Africans in 1994. Meaning your deluded behinds had 55 years to fix yourselves without any coups and wars or disruptions from world powers. South Africa had 24 years to fix herself , with a lot economic sabotages and problems inherittited from apartheid yet they are your competition . That is why I said you behave like losers with self esteem problems. Nigeria is going through her own problems and still feeling some effects of the war yet we are your competition, even though you had a lot of " peace" in your journey . Now imagine if South Africa and Nigeria didn't go through those hardships . We probably would have a lot of Shuttleworths than you. Yes Indians and whites do dominate the strategic parts of your economy , go and hang yourself if that hurts to listen to.are there any whites and Indians in your kiberas? There are plenty of them in south Africa showing some changes taking place , but we would never see such in Kenya .nigeria has her own masters and they look like me lol. Hundreds of pages ago I showed your own Indians outnumber ours and are also non citizens! You have one mn we have max 100 k,ALL CITIZENS!! Also the locals struggling in your shipping sector have repeatedly stressed its in Lebanese, Chinese and Indian hands! There's a Dubai based Indian running your largest industrial concern, second to Dangote to the exchequer. I had a pic of a Lebanese village of mansions built by those owning your economy, but tbh that was before you came. I'll dig it out? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 6:50pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
Jonraid: You love explaining yourself much.You didn't do a crime asking about tribes.It's totally fine Yes. I did that for you to understand. I will try not explaining my self that much. Thanks for your comment |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 6:53pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
Kur17:
True "what's your tribe" Question is so so annoying...
Anyway, these are Masai attires and cultural artifacts,
They use the calabash to store fermented milk.
Nigerians think calling someone a Masai is an insult... I actually asked how many tribes you have there. . . I didn't ask yours. I don't think I did. May I say that most of the Kenyans you have posted have similarities with the Oromo people? The kids are so cute |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:59pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
kikuyu1:
Hundreds of pages ago I showed your own Indians outnumber ours and are also non citizens! You have one mn we have max 100 k,ALL CITIZENS!! Also the locals struggling in your shipping sector have repeatedly stressed its in Lebanese, Chinese and Indian hands! There's a Dubai based Indian running your largest industrial concern, second to Dangote to the exchequer. I had a pic of a Lebanese village of mansions built by those owning your economy, but tbh that was before you came. I'll dig it out? look at this fool I can swear that I can count hw many times I saw white people in Nigeria nd they have no saying at all 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 7:07pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
It seems that your job is all about being nice and building rapport with everyone ednited:
Yes. I did that for you to understand. I will try not explaining my self that much. Thanks for your comment |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:33pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
ednited:
Yes. I did that for you to understand. I will try not explaining my self that much. Thanks for your comment why is Ethiopian airline doing better than other african airlines |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 7:33pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
Jonraid: From a Nigerian
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A commentary by Valentine Obienyem, the Special Assistant to the Governor of Anambra State (in Nigeria).
ONE of the most profound pronouncements from a Nigerian Minister was the remarks by the Federal Minister of Education, Dr. Oby Ezekwesili. The Honourable Minister said that the Government would review the criteria for the award of honorary doctorate degrees by universities. The bastardisation of awards in Nigeria, which has also crept into the Ivory Towers, is worrisome to well meaning Nigerians.
Ideally, not everybody has the opportunity of pursuing education up to doctorate level, when you are certified as a true expert in your chosen field. However, some people with the requisite experience, even more experienced than academic doctors are conferred with honorary doctorates. We cannot quarrel if any University confers honorary doctorate on person like Chief Austin Ilodibe in transportation, because he is truly experienced even more than the books on transportation. What we quarrel with is placing cash values on the awards, thus honouring even little minds that stumbled into money and use it to buy their way without any form of experience. The key word is experience Oracle Content & Collaboration
Talking about experience, the wise one says that education comes one fourth from schools, one fourth from experience, one fourth from the teacher and one fourth from travel. We gain much from these sources if we are positively disposed or confront them with open minds. A good example is the refrain of Nigeria being the giant of Africa. The notion of being a giant has made most Nigerians suffer delusions of grandeur, to believe that Nigeria is the first in terms of everything as far as African is concerned. You need the experience of travel to know whether this is true or false.
At the risk of sounding immodest, I have travelled widely within the sub-saharan Africa: Benin Republic, Togo, Ghana, Ivory Coast, Liberia, Sierra Leone, Guinea (Conakry), and Senegal. Abidjan and Accra are good cities in their own rights. But talking about places like Liberia, Freetown, Conakry, you talk about some primitive, uninspiring towns, where women still go about the towns in the happy ignorance of their unclothedness.
Recently, I had the opportunity of travelling to Kenya, Nairobi, with my Governor and boss, His Excellency, Mr. Peter Obi. Before Mr. Peter Obi became the Governor, he was the Chairman of Fidelity Bank and a Director in many other banks and companies. As a banker and a successful international business man, he moved around the world, from temperate to tropical zone from East to West and North to South attending one course or the other, one conference or seminar or the other.
However, since he became the Governor, he has not been travelling except strictly on official tours. He kept postponing the day he would visit his family in the UK, until the children became tired and had to come to Awka to see him. You may call this the demonstration of the fact that if the mountain cannot go to Muhammed, Muhammed will go to the mountain.
Recently, the Governor had a reason to travel to Kenya. Passionate about having Master plans for Awka, Onitsha and Nnewi, he had to travel to Nairobi to meet with the United Nation HABITAT and Shelter Afrique. Seeing the passion and the eagerness with which the Governor pursed this, the Organisation, as well as Shelter Afrique, promised to help him. Commending him, the under Secretary and Chief Executive of UN HABITAT, Dr. Anna Kajumulo Tibaijuka said that the Governor was a good example on true governace.
Typical of him, to save cost for the State, he travels, locally and internationally with a few people. Beyond saving cost, he always says that those in power find it difficult to relinquish power because they surround themselves with many aides that the prospect of surrendering power becomes frightful to them. Obi reminds me of Chief Chukwuemeka Chikelu, who, as Minister, would go to the counter at the Airport and do things for himself. Once I asked him why, and he said: "I do not want to live a borrowed life even as a Minister, so that any day if I cease being one, it will be easy to continue my normal life. In the case of Governor Obi, he usually tells us that being a Governor will not make him not to live his normal life.
Accept my apologies if I have digressed a bit. On the trip to Nairobi were the Governor and I. We flew Kenyan Airways, which is inscribed "The pride of Africa."
This at once aroused a sense of regret in me as a Nigerian. Is it not the place of former Nigeria's Airways that Kenyan Airways has taken? If not for mismanagement, what would have been of Nigerian Airways? At the time our Airways was functioning, was it not far bigger than Kenyan Airways in many respects? These are necessary questions.
At Nairobi, I saw what was beyond my imagination. Let me go straight to the verdict: Nairobi is far better than any Nigerian city you can possibly think of, including Abuja. Once at the Airport, you are bound to admire the order pervading the entire place. Though not as busy as Muritala Muhammed International Airport, it is better organized. In fact, some people told me, unverified, that the airport was built at the cost of Twenty-Five Million Naira (equivalent); while our own was at the cost of over Two Hundred Million Naira. But the two are big as to relatively cost the same.
Driving from the Airport to the town was a pleasant one. I took time looking at the street lights, and behold not even one bulb was not lit. Straight, we drove to Nairobi Serena Hotel. In fact, when we got there, because it was night, I could not really compare Nairobi and Abuja in terms of aesthetics. But when it was down, I saw Nairobi in its unclothedness.
Being an old city, Nairobi roads are not so wide. However, unlike our own disordered cities, Nairobi is clothed with flowers and the buildings are superior to most that we find in Nigeria. The transport companies, especially the ubiquitious Citi Hopper are far better that intra-city buses in Nigeria. Foreigners enter it with ease, no standing, no careless driving.
Working with Governor Obi is business not pleasure, he makes sure you add enough value to the trip to justify your travelling with him. Though as we were about to land at the airport, some places of interest such as Giraffe Park, Animal Orphanage, Nairobi National Musseum,etc were announced, but we did not go to Nairobi for a picnic, not with my Governor, but for business. On our return, as we touch down Nigerian soil, Kenyan Airways did not announce any place of interest in Nigeria. This is instructive. Oracle Content & Collaboration
However, in the spirit of adventure, I still managed to look out. Close to the beautiful Serena hotel is the Uhuru Park, a spacious park for recreation. If it were in Nigeria, corner shops would have taken its place. But in Nairobi, it is well maintained, and I understand such parks are all over the place. As you move along Nairobi streets you see public conveniences, neat and properly maintained. It will certainly be a source of revenue. In fact, it made me remember a king who built urinals around his kingdom, his son protested on why trying to make money from such a dirty place. When the money came, he took some close to his nose and asked: "Do they smell of urine?"
Nairobi is amazingly clean, especially when juxtaposed with Abuja. Without Okada plying the streets, you will not even see a single sheet of paper or pure water nylons on the ground. No wonder the city attracts foreigners. At Serena hotel, 98% of the guests are foreigners. You are therefore left to imagine how much the country makes on tourism. One Nigerian there said that what oil was to Nigeria was what tourism was to Kenya.
I had the opportunity of visiting University of Nairobi. Right inside the city, it is a reflection of the entire city: neat, organized and exuding scholarship. In my venturesome way, I interacted with some of the students and was not disappointed.
Nairobi has good hospitals, good schools and good weather. Though Nigerians seem well-to-do, but Nairobi is more of a human society than our disordered country controlled by bedlam.
Two days in Nairobi was a pleasant experience. As we touch down at Murtala Mohammed Airport, I was nostalgic about Kenya. A city where I did not witness police taking bribes openly, dry taps, power interruption. A city where right-hand driving is still in vogue. At our airport, we had to wait for some minutes for the generator to be put on, because the conveyor belt stopped when NEPA interrupted power. Regrettably, this was a reminding welcome to Nigeria, the land where, Ordinarily, an educated, exposed unbiased man giving his unequivocal opinion would end ANY discussion. Alas! This is a forum where we even argue whether its daytime!! |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samsobo24(m): 7:41pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 7:51pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
tlann: Nakuru is better than that Ibadan of yours In what way? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 8:15pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
Jonraid: The Entertainment and media Industry report by Pricewaterhouse Coopers
For Nigeria's 2016-2021
“Of the $2.8 billion that the Nigerian market will add between 2016 and 2021, all but $452 million will come from Internet access revenue. The combined elements of TV and video will add nearly $200 million in revenue growth to 2021,” PwC said.
For Kenya's
The report says Kenyans E&M industry was worth $2.1 billion in 2016, up 13.6 percent on 2015. Revenue is forecast to grow at an 8.5 percent compound annual growth rate (CAGR) over the next five years, hitting the $3 billion mark in 2020, and totaling $3.2 billion in 2021. “Internet access is the most established industry within the Kenyan market, boasting the largest revenues and one of the highest growth rates to 2021,” PwC added.
Links
https://www.nation.co.ke/business/Entertainment--media-revenue-to-hit-Sh329bn-in-next-5-years/996-4119976-kjkyjj/index.html
http://investadvocate.com.ng/2017/09/21/nigerias-entertainment-media-industry-revenue-hit-2-8-billion-2021/
I'm waiting for Yemi Kale to say that Nigeria's media industry is worth 10 billion US dollars! ![smiley](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/smiley.png)
Haiyyee!! I had no idea; thanks! More proof our economy is even more diversified than we Kenyans course know. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 8:20pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
Kur17: Umoja, Innercore More please! Rest Karen,Runda,Hurlingam and Kilimani for now. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:25pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
NairobiWalker:
When you read what they classify as a slum in other countries, you might think they're from Switzerland. Imagine some idiot was arguing here that Buruburu is a slum - and he claims to live in Kenya The idiot was 68816419 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:35pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
Kur17: Umoja, Innercore Nigerians dominate this estate,moreso Umoja 2 and innercore. People from the self acclaimed 'best country in Africa' looking for life opportunity in a country that they underrate with ignorance at all cost. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:42pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
NairobiWalker:
You can do better than stop telling lies, apologize and tell everyone that Buruburu is actually better than 99% of neighborhoods in Nigeria? Apige magoti hapa NL ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:05pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
forgiveness:
In what way? in everything except population |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:06pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
Yobeezy:
Nigerians dominate this estate,moreso Umoja 2 and innercore. People from the self acclaimed 'best country in Africa' looking for life opportunity in a country that they underrate with ignorance at all cost. they should be deported 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NigeriaIsDoomed: 9:08pm On Nov 22, 2018 |
kikuyu1: This week we had our national primary exam results and guess what? One country has a near 100% primary to secondary transition rate and the other has barely 50%. Which is Kenya and which is Naij? Use your research skills and discuss with logic. 10 mks. Inspite of this trash you posted Kenyans still feel inferior and intimidated before Nigerians. |