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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:09pm On Nov 25, 2018 |
komekn: Oga, Iorfa will not be going to an EPL club now unless he is playing. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:10pm On Nov 25, 2018 |
Sarenren Bazee starts. 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 5:12pm On Nov 25, 2018 |
tbaba1234: Good news I rebuke any spirit of injury 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:15pm On Nov 25, 2018 |
Icon4s: It would be considered wisdom to read the previous posts on this particular discourse before contributing. That way your comments will not be considered to be lacking any relevance or substance. Ajayi was born in the UK has never lived in Nigeria played a handful of games for the Nigerian U20. He played his first professional league game at age 22 in England after many years of youth football in Arsenal Charlton and Cardiff city. So how did he become a Nigerian groomed player ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:16pm On Nov 25, 2018 |
tbaba1234: Stranger things have happened. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Clementoke(m): 5:18pm On Nov 25, 2018 |
komekn: Mr Komekn, as a Nigerian and fan of the Super Eagles, in clear terms, what's your honest and fair recommendation to the NFF and Coach Rohr concerning Iorfa? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake2: 5:25pm On Nov 25, 2018 |
Clementoke: That he should be started against Seychelles ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:27pm On Nov 25, 2018 |
fabyom: Multiple issues. I can tell you that when you are an England youth international your market value increases. Both for you and the club. It would be very wise to use that value to negotiate a good long term deal for yourself with your club before you change allegiance or it will decrease your value and ability to bargain. Dominic was the poster boy of Wolves established over four consecutive seasons of top performances. However, he has always had integrity and showed loyalty to his agents and club. Maybe he should have changed agency to Mendes and it would be different story today. But the club I know would have preferred him to stay with England and may even pressurise him to do that. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake2: 5:33pm On Nov 25, 2018 |
[s] komekn:[/s] Dude you need a knock on the head What does a person playing four seasons for Wolves have to do with the SE? Others are bringing constant performances as a case for bringing players to the SE, you are bringing excuses and Mendes 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:36pm On Nov 25, 2018 |
Clementoke: I personally think in terms of speed, athleticism and presence very few can match him. However, I still think he is not as good technically as I would like. It may be I've not seen that aspect of his game because, it has not been required. Dominic Iorfa Father contested the Presidency of the NFF and did call a spade a spade not very diplomatic. That's is he exposed the depth of vote buying. He should have kept quite that's how things are done here if you don't like it dont compete. That left some people to get angry with him. There is a hard core NFF element but small that dissuaded Rohr not to invite Dominic. That's my totally unsubstantiated view that is birthed from my perception and limited observation. I have zero evidence to support it just my emotive view. Just the same way I know corrupt politicians and police but have no evidence to prove it. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:39pm On Nov 25, 2018 |
Earthquake2: You are in darkness. Because you have no idea turn on the lights update your knowledge. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:39pm On Nov 25, 2018 |
komekn: Olofinjana played for Wolves and is even their under 23 coach now. He played for Nigeria. When Iorfa returns to playing regularly and is on form, we will welcome him but for now, there is no discussion. 9 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:44pm On Nov 25, 2018 |
Lucque: Rohr needs fresh blueprint for Super Eagles, says Onigbinde Former Super Eagles Coach, Chief Adegboye Onigbinde has urged the Nigeria Football Federation (NFF) to review Gernot Rohr’s contract and compel him to live in the country to develop the nation’s football at all levels. Onigbinde noted that the present system in which the NFF hires foreign coaches for only competitions and not for developmental purposes would continue to affect the level of the country’s football development unless steps were taken to correct the anomalies in their contracts. Drawing from the recent coaching contracts signed by Emmanuel Amuneke with Tanzania Football Association and Clarence Seedorf with the Camerounian federation, Onigbinde stated that the deals spelt out that the coaches would live in the respective countries, build solid national teams for their employers and also develop football from the grassroots. https://www.google.com/amp/s/guardian.ng/sport/rohr-needs-fresh-blueprint-for-super-eagles-says-onigbinde/amp I agree with Chief Onigbinde here because it is clear the Rohr contract is too laid back and lacks dynamism to improve our football as a whole. Winning competitions is a small part of the work but footballing development as a whole. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Clementoke(m): 5:45pm On Nov 25, 2018 |
komekn: Nice narration only that you left my Question unanswered. What should the NFF and Coach Rohr do about Iorfa in your honest Opinion?. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake2: 5:55pm On Nov 25, 2018 |
komekn: You are the one that is in darkness SE is not a dumping ground for British born outcasts 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:57pm On Nov 25, 2018 |
I think it is time I address Rohr's statement of Iheanacho out of form. Yes we have put up some good victories under Rohr but I have not been overwhelmed with his pattern of play and youth development. His negative approach to the game has been a draw back not only to the team but to some individual players. Nacho. The so called regressing started in the game against South Africa which we lost two nil. It will be pictured as Nacho not playing well and could jot muster a target. In that game, another promising talent from our age grade football who was lighting Austria with goals, Kayode came in and flopped. We also saw the birth of another promising age grade talent, Osimhen come in and despite a good game could not have the fire to help the team. Did Nacho play poorly in that game? No. However the tactical drawbacks of Rohr hindered a blistering performance. Despite Nacho making repeated good runs, with Mikel not in the side, we could not give some good passes to give us goals. Rohr did nothing to stop the repeated wasted passes and at the end the criticism fell on Nacho and not his innate tactics to move Iwobi to the midfield to supply the passes. Now we have Rohr setting up the team negatively and talking loss of Nacho's form and confidence. Rohr should grow some balls to set up the team to bring the best in players. Despite Musa due to his insane work rate, none of the promising forwards have come close to their potential. Remember how poor Mikel looked at Chelsea under Mourinho. Many criticised Mikel but it was the system that held Mikel back. Playing under a better system under the tutelage of Guus Hiddink, Mikel Obi was a different and brilliant player. The same player who was poor looked too quality just because of playing in an ideal system. Former Liverpool midfield enforcer, and now television analyst, Graeme Souness said after the Crystal Palace win, “I don't think I've ever seen John Obi Mikel play so well. He bossed that area.” Rohr might talk of confidence and form. I will still hammer on his system clipping the wings of the Super Eagles. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 5:58pm On Nov 25, 2018 |
agree with him on what bases? grassroot football is built and nurtured by youth team coaches and can only make recommendation of a talented player on the rough to the coach of the apex team of the nation. days have gone like westerhoff's era where he scouted every corner of nation to unearth talents which was caused by us not having many professional footballers in europe then. no sane coach will follow the route of moving from kano to jigawa just to scout players when in his possession he has over a thousand players scattered all over europe. local league players can only be considered if they prove that they are better than their European based counterparts . super eagles as the apex team of the nation is meant for the best we can boast of but not a place to enhance and develop talents, such responsibility should be rested upon the shoulders of our cadet team coaches QED. lets not allow sentiment and selfish interest to disrupt or destroy what rohr is working hard to build. he is not perfect and has a lot of flaws but the progression of the team in the past 2 years is a good evidence of his good work so far TheGoodJoe: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 6:02pm On Nov 25, 2018 |
safarigirl: What do agents have to do with the selection of a team? Shouldn't the coach be finding players by himself? You are misplacing facts, Odey and Lokosa both came back from abroad to honor calls. They both went on trials before their caps. Please what has Balogun done in his career? Even Victor Moses just finally played for Chelsea it is not like they were world beaters all these years. Balogun got the same chance that Keshi gave to Omeruo and both worked out meaning that u cannot forget about the league. Omeruo is clearly our best defender in Europe and he came from Sunshine stars. Musa nko? Top scorer for Nigeria at 2014 and 2018 wc, Kano Pillars. Premature or not Sunday Mba birthed us an AFCON so why should u complain? If an home based lad can do that for us in Cameroon then why not? 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake2: 6:03pm On Nov 25, 2018 |
'Iheanacho is better than Mbappe' crew strikes again ![]() Rohr is the reason why Iheanacho could not trap a simple ball against South Africa Rohr is the reason Iheanacho is underperforming at Leicester They would rather blame Guardiola, Puel, Rohr, the pitch, the formation than blame the underperforming Iheanacho 8 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:03pm On Nov 25, 2018 |
charlesemeka85: The National team managers have roles to play in the development of grassroots football. I think the whole Rohr scenario is creating a big misconception. Even Guardiola who was a club coach in Bayern Munich held repeated sessions with grassroots coaches to help boost their technical knowledge of the game and in turn help the growth of German football. Westerhof was able to harness the quality of a sixteen year old local league player, Daniel Amokachi and with time that youngster became one of the top recognised footballers I. England. If Westerhof was just about his team matches and not grassroots, we would not have taken such strides. At least Amunike and Seedorf contract spelt it out. We are getting it wrong with Rohr. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:09pm On Nov 25, 2018 |
Earthquake2: I can bet you were among those who blamed Mikel Obi at every opportunity you got without thinking of the fact that other factors could affect a player's performances. Why do you think coaches switch formations when their team is not performing well and the team performs better after that. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 6:12pm On Nov 25, 2018 |
Lucque: Stephen Odey, Chisom Egbuchalam Alhassan Ibrahim and Stephen Eze who barely touched the pitch name those players who left after being capped? Was it Sunday Adetunji, Sikiru Olatunbosu, Jamilu Alimi, Ifeanyi Ifeanyi, Godwin Obaje, etc that left after their caps? Damn sure not because those guys are still in the league as we speak. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:23pm On Nov 25, 2018 |
Billing with a goal-line clearance. The highest rated player on the pitch at the moment.
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:27pm On Nov 25, 2018 |
On your first paragraph. That was the point I raised. Seems nobody saw it. Rohr gave himself away, but this is Nigeria. He knows it’s normal to us. BascoVanVeli: 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 6:29pm On Nov 25, 2018 |
Joebie:I am watching this match only cause of Billing. Such wretched football in HD |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by pyrex23(m): 6:57pm On Nov 25, 2018 |
Bazee injured again..? ![]()
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 6:59pm On Nov 25, 2018 |
BascoVanVeli:Gernot Rohr is the technical adviser. He is not a coach and he is not a scout, so, why should he be finding talent in the league? Did you ask what Salisu was doing with his time aside collecting bribes? Is it not Salisu that was in charge of home-based players? How many did he bring in? Shebi when Rohr even tried to go for Aiteo Cup finals, one miscreant stole from him, maybe the day he tries to go for an NPFL game, dem go break the guy head. What has anybody in the NPFL done with their career that should make them better than Balogun or Moses? Who do they play with? They have not finished winning decent African teams in the African Champions League or Confed Cups, na Germany or England dem wan reach? And please, the Mba story is enough. He did not play AFCON alone, we did not play only one game in the entire AFCON. What did he do after AFCON? You are mentioning Musa and Omeruo from how may years ago? How old were they when they left NPFL? How many of Musa and Omeruo has NPFL produced since then? Let us talk here and now, forget older players. Let us talk of the players available to Rohr You are talking as if Rohr has never tried one NPFL player, he has tried multiple players, multiple. And none has been able to keep a spot. The few who are decent, left NPFL, testament to the fact that even they know that the NPFL is not good enough for the development of a player. Once again, this whole victim mentality is nauseating. We were all here shouting Dessers last year, Rohr asked him to move up and he did, since then, he hasn't been consistent and the calls have reduced. Dessers is not an NPFL player, is he? Rohr is not the one holding anybody's destiny. Stop wailing mbok, makes NPFL look pathetic. 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Lavoca: 7:32pm On Nov 25, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe:Story story 3 Likes
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 7:42pm On Nov 25, 2018 |
Chukwueze starts for Villarreal 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 8:00pm On Nov 25, 2018 |
Chukwueze starts Boy please get me a goal 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Tolulopefinest(m): 8:00pm On Nov 25, 2018 |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Curtisaxel7(m): 8:09pm On Nov 25, 2018 |
safarigirl: For the first time ever, I completely agree with what you said Madame. Nailed it!. 1 Like |
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