The entire message of Islam can be summarized as follows;


"God decided to create the generations of human being on the surface of the earth (Qur'an 2:30). But when God finished the creation of Adam and his wife, He put them in paradise. Therefore, for God's original plan to be fulfilled, God allowed Adam and his wife to be deceived by Satan and the two of them disobeyed God by eating from the fruits of the forbidden tree. Consequently, they were expelled from paradise and sent down to the earth. On getting to the earth, Adam and his wife regretted their actions and REPENTED FROM THEIR SINFUL ACTS and God forgave them (Qur'an 2:37). Hence, they will be admitted back into paradise on the day of resurrection. Thereafter, for the children of Adam to be also admitted back into paradise from where their parents were expelled, they have to REPENT SINCERELY from their sins (Qur'an 66:8-9) and FOLLOW the guidance of God (Qur'an 2:38) which would be revealed to them from time to time through many prophets of God until the appearance of the last prophet (i:e prophet Muhammad-pbuh) that would bring the final, complete and everlasting guidance for all the people of the earth (Qur'an 7:158)".


This is Islam in a nut shell and it shows the RATIONALITY OF WASHING AWAY A SINFUL ACT BY SINCERE REPENTANCE AND THEN KEEPING TO THE GUIDANCE REVEALED BY GOD (i:e true beliefs and the divine commandments) in order to gain admission into paradise.


Similarly, the whole message of the present-day Christianity can be summarized as follows;

"God created Adam and his wife and put them in paradise. Due to a temptation from Satan, two of them disobeyed God by eating the forbidden fruit. As a result of this very disobedience, they were made to descend from paradise to the earth and all the children of Adam were spiritually condemned together with their parents (Romans 5:12,17-19) . The only way they can be saved from this spiritual condemnation and then admitted back into paradise is for God to send His ONLY innocent and righteous son (i:e Jesus Christ) to the earth and have the children of the same Adam TORTURE and KILL him on the cross of Calvary so that God can forgive them and everyone else for what Adam and his wife did".


This is the Christianity in a nutshell and it points out the ABSURDITY OF WASHING AWAY A SINFUL ACT BY ANOTHER SINFUL ACT THAT IS MUCH MORE GREATER . After all, if the eating of the forbidden fruit by Adam and his wife was enough to condemn all the future generations of human being, then would not the brutal killing of the innocent and righteous son of God on the cross by the children of Adam do the same and even much, much more?

Christians believe that blood of Jesus MUST be shed on the cross for the forgiveness of sins before we can be admitted back into paradise. They often justify this very belief by relying on the book of Hebrew that says;
" In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and WITHOUT THE SHEDDING OF BLOOD THERE IS NO FORGIVENESS (Hebrew 9:22)".

However, there are many places in the Bible where God promised to forgive sins even WITHOUT the slightest hint of blood shedding. For example;

# Ezekiel 18:21-22; But if a wicked man turns from all his sins which he has committed, keeps all My statutes, and does what is lawful and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die. NONE OF THE TRANSGRESSIONS which he has committed shall be remembered against him".

# Isaiah 43:23-25; You have not brought Me the sheep of your burnt offerings…or the fat of your sacrifices, but you have burdened Me with your sins…Nevertheless, I will wipe out your transgressions for My own sake, and I WILL NOT REMEMBER YOUR SINS”.

# 2nd Chronicles 7:14; And if My people who are called by My name humble themselves and pray, and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, will FORGIVE THEIR SIN, and will heal their land".

# Psalms 78:36-39; Their heart was not steadfast toward Him, nor were they faithful in His covenant. But He, being compassionate, FORGAVE THEIR INIQUITY…remembering that they were but flesh.”

# Jeremiah 36:3; Perhaps when the people of Judah hear about every disaster I plan to inflict on them, they will each turn from their wicked ways; then I WILL FORGIVE THEIR WICKEDNESS AND THEIR SIN .”

# 1st Kings 8:46-50; If they return to You with all their heart and with all their soul in the land of their enemies who have taken them captive, and pray to You toward their land which You have given to their fathers, the city which You have chosen, and the house which I have built for Your name; then hear their prayer and their supplication in heaven Your dwelling place, and maintain their cause, and FORGIVE YOUR PEOPLE WHO HAVE SINNED AGAINST YOU and all their transgressions which they have transgressed against You… ”

Similarly, Jesus(pbuh) advised his disciples as follows;

# Matthew 6:14; "For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER WILL ALSO FORGIVE YOU ".

# Mark 11:25; "And when you stand praying, if you hold anything against anyone, forgive them, so that YOUR FATHER IN HEAVEN MAY FORGIVE YOU YOUR SINS ".


So which word are we to believe ? Are we to believe in the book of Hebrew that says WITHOUT the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins (Hebrew 9:22) ? Or are we to believe in the word of God and Jesus which show that shedding of blood is NOT THE ONLY WAY to obtain divine forgiveness ?
It is very obvious that Hebrew 9:22 is completely WRONG. Yet this very verse represents one of the foundational pillars upon which the edifice of Christianity is erected. Of course, if there is alternative way and the shedding of blood is NOT THE ONLY WAY to obtain divine forgiveness for our sins, then there is NO NEED for Jesus to shed his blood for our sins on the cross of Calvary. If this is true, then God must have ANSWERED that FERVENT prayer of Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane when he asked for the cup of crucifixion to be TAKEN AWAY from him in THREE different consecutive times (Matthew 26:36-44). Therefore, Jesus must have ESCAPED the death on the cross in a miraculous way as stated clearly in the Qur'an (Qur'an 4:157), and he must have escaped the CURSE of God associated with anyone that died on the cross (Deuteronomy 21:23). Hence, Jesus could not have been the accursed person who expressed a deep sorrow on the cross saying "My God, my God, why have you FORSAKEN me? (Matthew 27:46)". Of course, it is totally IRRATIONAL for an innocent, righteous and beloved prophet of God to be accursed and forsaken by the same God.

When you take off your BLINDERS, you will realize that Islam is far far more reasonable and nearer to the truth than the present-day Christianity.

Christianity seems confusing with the various denominations.

Islam and Bloodletting is 5&6.

Only one who is spiritually discerned can understand the Words of the Kingdom.
In the Kingdom where I belong, Scriptures are understood by The Spirit, not by human mind.
I Corinthians 2

Another shallow way of picking the scriptures..

I will be right back to discuss all your claims

Op , why would God allow satan to deceive Adam and Eve since He knew such sin would make majority to be punished In hell forever ?

Is this not evil ? Is this allah of the quran not different from God Jehovah of the Bible to you ?

The Bible makes us to know that earth was created for mankind and that Adam started existing here on earth and not in heaven contrary to Islam and the quran .

drips8:
Christianity seems confusing with the various denominations.

Yes , because it is the original that needs to be adulterated and not the fake.

Islam is Satan's , why would he bother to disunite them , since he knows he has succeeded in joining them with idol worshipping ?

Godisreal55:
The entire message of Islam can be summarized as follows;
This is the Christianity in a nutshell and it points out the ABSURDITY OF WASHING AWAY A SINFUL ACT BY ANOTHER SINFUL ACT THAT IS MUCH MORE GREATER . After all, if the eating of the forbidden fruit by Adam and his wife was enough to condemn all the future generations of human being, then would not the brutal killing of the innocent and righteous son of God on the cross by the children of Adam do the same and even much, much more?

Christians believe that blood of Jesus MUST be shed on the cross for the forgiveness of sins before we can be admitted back into paradise. They often justify this very belief by relying on the book of Hebrew that says;
" In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and WITHOUT THE SHEDDING OF BLOOD THERE IS NO FORGIVENESS (Hebrew 9:22)".

Point 1: The brutal killing of the innocent and righteous Son of God on the cross by the children of Adam would have done much more condemnation if Christ Jesus had not said: "FATHER FORGIVE THEM, FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO".

Point 2: Hebrew 9:22 which you wrongly quoted began with: In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood. I'm sure you didn't notice the law part of it. The writer of Hebrew also went ahead to say the we were no longer under the law but under the Grace but you ignored all that and quoted only the part that might suit your argument. Islam has always mastered the art of twisting the Holy scriptures and they teach their kids falsehood about Christians right from childhood.

enilove:


Yes , because it is the original that needs to be adulterated and not the fake.

Islam is Satan's , why would he bother to disunite them , since he knows he has succeeded in joining them with idol worshipping.

So, catholicism needs adulteration?

drips8:

So, catholicism needs adulteration?

It is adulterated already .

Godisreal55:
The entire message of Islam can be summarized as follows;


"God decided to create the generations of human being on the surface of the earth (Qur'an 2:30). But when God finished the creation of Adam and his wife, He put them in paradise. Therefore, for God's original plan to be fulfilled, God allowed Adam and his wife to be deceived by Satan and the two of them disobeyed God by eating from the fruits of the forbidden tree. Consequently, they were expelled from paradise and sent down to the earth. On getting to the earth, Adam and his wife regretted their actions and REPENTED FROM THEIR SINFUL ACTS and God forgave them (Qur'an 2:37). Hence, they will be admitted back into paradise on the day of resurrection. Thereafter, for the children of Adam to be also admitted back into paradise from where their parents were expelled, they have to REPENT SINCERELY from their sins (Qur'an 66:8-9) and FOLLOW the guidance of God (Qur'an 2:38) which would be revealed to them from time to time through many prophets of God until the appearance of the last prophet (i:e prophet Muhammad-pbuh) that would bring the final, complete and everlasting guidance for all the people of the earth (Qur'an 7:158)".


This is Islam in a nut shell and it shows the RATIONALITY OF WASHING AWAY A SINFUL ACT BY SINCERE REPENTANCE AND THEN KEEPING TO THE GUIDANCE REVEALED BY GOD (i:e true beliefs and the divine commandments) in order to gain admission into paradise.


Similarly, the whole message of the present-day Christianity can be summarized as follows;

"God created Adam and his wife and put them in paradise. Due to a temptation from Satan, two of them disobeyed God by eating the forbidden fruit. As a result of this very disobedience, they were made to descend from paradise to the earth and all the children of Adam were spiritually condemned together with their parents (Romans 5:12,17-19) . The only way they can be saved from this spiritual condemnation and then admitted back into paradise is for God to send His ONLY innocent and righteous son (i:e Jesus Christ) to the earth and have the children of the same Adam TORTURE and KILL him on the cross of Calvary so that God can forgive them and everyone else for what Adam and his wife did".


This is the Christianity in a nutshell and it points out the ABSURDITY OF WASHING AWAY A SINFUL ACT BY ANOTHER SINFUL ACT THAT IS MUCH MORE GREATER . After all, if the eating of the forbidden fruit by Adam and his wife was enough to condemn all the future generations of human being, then would not the brutal killing of the innocent and righteous son of God on the cross by the children of Adam do the same and even much, much more?

Christians believe that blood of Jesus MUST be shed on the cross for the forgiveness of sins before we can be admitted back into paradise. They often justify this very belief by relying on the book of Hebrew that says;
" In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and WITHOUT THE SHEDDING OF BLOOD THERE IS NO FORGIVENESS (Hebrew 9:22)".

However, there are many places in the Bible where God promised to forgive sins even WITHOUT the slightest hint of blood shedding. For example;

# Ezekiel 18:21-22; But if a wicked man turns from all his sins which he has committed, keeps all My statutes, and does what is lawful and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die. NONE OF THE TRANSGRESSIONS which he has committed shall be remembered against him".

# Isaiah 43:23-25; You have not brought Me the sheep of your burnt offerings…or the fat of your sacrifices, but you have burdened Me with your sins…Nevertheless, I will wipe out your transgressions for My own sake, and I WILL NOT REMEMBER YOUR SINS”.

# 2nd Chronicles 7:14; And if My people who are called by My name humble themselves and pray, and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, will FORGIVE THEIR SIN, and will heal their land".

# Psalms 78:36-39; Their heart was not steadfast toward Him, nor were they faithful in His covenant. But He, being compassionate, FORGAVE THEIR INIQUITY…remembering that they were but flesh.”

# Jeremiah 36:3; Perhaps when the people of Judah hear about every disaster I plan to inflict on them, they will each turn from their wicked ways; then I WILL FORGIVE THEIR WICKEDNESS AND THEIR SIN .”

# 1st Kings 8:46-50; If they return to You with all their heart and with all their soul in the land of their enemies who have taken them captive, and pray to You toward their land which You have given to their fathers, the city which You have chosen, and the house which I have built for Your name; then hear their prayer and their supplication in heaven Your dwelling place, and maintain their cause, and FORGIVE YOUR PEOPLE WHO HAVE SINNED AGAINST YOU and all their transgressions which they have transgressed against You… ”

Similarly, Jesus(pbuh) advised his disciples as follows;

# Matthew 6:14; "For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER WILL ALSO FORGIVE YOU ".

# Mark 11:25; "And when you stand praying, if you hold anything against anyone, forgive them, so that YOUR FATHER IN HEAVEN MAY FORGIVE YOU YOUR SINS ".


So which word are we to believe ? Are we to believe in the book of Hebrew that says WITHOUT the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins (Hebrew 9:22) ? Or are we to believe in the word of God and Jesus which show that shedding of blood is NOT THE ONLY WAY to obtain divine forgiveness ?
It is very obvious that Hebrew 9:22 is completely WRONG. Yet this very verse represents one of the foundational pillars upon which the edifice of Christianity is erected. Of course, if there is alternative way and the shedding of blood is NOT THE ONLY WAY to obtain divine forgiveness for our sins, then there is NO NEED for Jesus to shed his blood for our sins on the cross of Calvary. If this is true, then God must have ANSWERED that FERVENT prayer of Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane when he asked for the cup of crucifixion to be TAKEN AWAY from him in THREE different consecutive times (Matthew 26:36-44). Therefore, Jesus must have ESCAPED the death on the cross in a miraculous way as stated clearly in the Qur'an (Qur'an 4:157), and he must have escaped the CURSE of God associated with anyone that died on the cross (Deuteronomy 21:23). Hence, Jesus could not have been the accursed person who expressed a deep sorrow on the cross saying "My God, my God, why have you FORSAKEN me? (Matthew 27:46)". Of course, it is totally IRRATIONAL for an innocent, righteous and beloved prophet of God to be accursed and forsaken by the same God.

When you take off your BLINDERS, you will realize that Islam is far far more reasonable and nearer to the truth than the present-day Christianity.

Before I start, Let me say this.....Muslims post a lot of rubbish online to encourage themselves...

The way you guys read the Bible upsidedown, looking for a way to keep you guys going, is terrible.

If you like, continue to deceive yourselves with Posts by someone who has no idea of the scriptures...

Without Jesus, and his blood, YOU GO TO HELL.

It is not negotiable.

Let me school you about Yahweh. I am not talking about Allah.

Yaweh required Israel to sacrifice animals for their sins.

A priest did that on a regular basis while a high priest enters into the holy of holies once in a year to sacrifice for Israel.

So, Yahweh will not just pardon sins...he required blood as sacrifice.

Now, this animal sacrifice could not remove sins...this is evident in that the children of Israel could not have access to the holy of holies...

God promised a new covenant where Jesus will be offered once and for all....God rejected animal sacrifice.

John said....Behold the lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world.

You said that Jesus was not killed...yet all the four Gospels said he was and even narrated his ressurection.

Jesus said.... My God why have you forsaken me because at that point, he carried the sin of the world..

Just like a lamb is the old testament will carry the sin of whoever present it...

We do not rely only on the book of Hebrews... See this..

" For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. "
(Matthew 26: 28)

This is Jesus statement...

This is Peter's statement...

" Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the

remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost."
(Acts 2: 38)

A Jew will never call anyone the son of God...or worshiped anyone...

For the 12 Apostles, and Paul to have preached and worshiped Jesus,

He showed himself to them and they were convinced...

If you don't believe in Jesus and get baptized ASAP,

All your sins remain....If you die in that state,
.You can't stand in the presence of God.

If you need the biblical references to all these claims, you can reach me.

God bless you.

According to whoever posted that thing,

Jesus prayed a fervent prayer that God should deliver him...

The poster believed that Jesus got to that point and after that,
then every other statements of the Bible are false..

He picked a portion where Jesus was telling the Pharisees to forgive...

But he rejected other scriptures that talk about Jesus predicting his death and resurrection...

This tooth-picking method of the scriptures will not work..

Jesus said....He that does not believe the son IS CONDEMNED ALREADY.

You don't need to wait for the judgement day or when you die....You stand condemned..

and don't tell me that you believe in Jesus...

If you really do, get baptized and follow his teaching.

You said Islam is nearer to the Truth...

I tell you the truth, that Jesus is the Truth and the Life...

He said that anyone who believe in him, though he dies, he will raise him up on the last day..

Christianity is not nearer to the truth, It is the truth.

Both Christin it and Islam are unreasonable and confusing.

Ur God created Adam and Eve and for his plan to work, he allowed them to be deceived by satan...

What plan exactly?

frank317:
Both Christin it and Islam are unreasonable and confusing.

Ur God created Adam and Eve and for his plan to work, he allowed them to be deceived by satan...

What plan exactly?

Which one is reasonable and not confusing to you?

The case of the muslims are better than yours , because you are spiritually degenerated . You have to repent b4 it is too late for you.

Both Christianity and Islam are Abrahamic in origin. The fall stories you described are the same. Its just a matter of interpretation. Modern Christians interprete the fall differently. Although early Christians (gnostics) believed that the fall was God's will and the sins are not remitted by blood shed.
It's therefore possible that no Christian today has the correct interpretation to Paul's writings and that their teachings are heavily distorted.
But I would say the same for Islam. It is equally heavily distorted. Does it really matter which lie sounds better? A lie is a lie

Freh:
Both Christianity and Islam are Abrahamic in origin. The fall stories you described are the same. Its just a matter of interpretation. Modern Christians interprete the fall differently. Although early Christians (gnostics) believed that the fall was God's will and the sins are not remitted by blood shed.
It's therefore possible that no Christian today has the correct interpretation to Paul's writings and that their teachings are heavily distorted.
But I would say the same for Islam. It is equally heavily distorted. Does it really matter which lie sounds better? A lie is a lie

When People complain about Paul's writing, I wonder.

Remove all of Paul's books, and you still have Jesus birth, divinity, miracles, teachings, death, ressurection, ascension and second coming, all in clear terms..

A good bible scholar will know that Paul's writing are Extracts from the four gospels and Old testament books....

Plus his personal advice.

The central theme of the new testament is still intact if Paul's writings are removed...

I will strongly advice that the op should give his life to Jesus.

Let him be your Lord and Saviour...

If he is your saviour, you automatically associate yourself with his death. ..and your sins are removed.

If he is your Lord, he will take over your life. Many

Christians accept Jesus as a saviour, but Jesus is not
In charge of their lives.

If Jesus is Lord of your life, you will obey his spirit in you...The spirit will tell you to forgive and you will.

He will tell you that you cannot lie...that you cannot cheat... that you cannot fornicate . that you cannot harbour hatred ....etc.


For anyone that cares to listen,

Jesus is the only way to eternal life...Mohammed did not promise you life...

Jesus said he will raise me up on the last day.

Believing in Jesus for eternity is not negotiable.. You don't have a choice if you want to be saved...

Accept him and have life.
Reject him and die a sinner.

I just told you the truth in plain terms.

Someone should pls teach me how to break a post in pieces and place comments after each break.

Thanks.

@ Jesutakewe and Originakalokalo

I did not wrongly quote Hebrew 9:22. It is you that wanted to modify the obvious meaning of this verse. Let me quote it again;
" In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and WITHOUT THE SHEDDING OF BLOOD THERE IS NO FORGIVENESS (Hebrew 9:22)".
Now you can disassociate your self from the law and claim that you were no longer the law but under the grace. But according to what you believe; was it not the law (made mention in Hebrew 9:22) which Jesus fulfilled that make you entitle to your so-called grace ?
But do you know why the basis of your argument in defending Hebrew 9:22 crumbled to pieces? There is NO ANY OLD TESTAMENT LAW that says "without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness".
The only verse in the Old Testament that SEEMS to support Hebrew 9:22 is Leviticus 17:11 that says:
“For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls; for it is the blood that makes an atonement for the soul. ”
However, when you read this verse CONTEXTUALLY, you will discover that God was only telling us the reason why we should not eat blood because it is the blood (AND NOT ANY OTHER PARTS OF ANIMAL BODY) that make atonement for the soul. Read it yourself:

“And whatever man of the house of Israel, or of the strangers who sojourn among you, who consumes any blood, I will set My face against that person who consumes blood, and will cut him off from among his people. For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you upon the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood that makes an atonement for the soul. Therefore, I say to the children of Israel, `No one among you shall consume blood, nor shall any stranger who sojourns among you consume blood.‘”

What should immediately be apparent is that the topic of this passage is not how to secure atonement from sins, but the prohibition against consuming blood. We are told parenthetically that the reason for this prohibition is that the blood contains the vitality of the animal (cf. Genesis9:4, Deuteronomy 12:23 ) and consequently, when we bring an animal sacrifice, its blood serves as the atoning agent, and not another part of its body.
The passage does say that since blood symbolizes the life of the animal, God has given it to us as a means of atoning for our sins. But does the verse clearly teach that it is the only means God has provided to make atonement? As with any other Biblical study, we will have to examine this question in light of the Bible as a whole. But for now, we should note that our verse merely says that blood can serve as an atonement. It is an effective means of atonement, but by no means the only form of atonement.
In the Torah, blood sacrifices were not the only path to atonement; there were other ways to achieve forgiveness. For example, incense served to atone for the people in Numbers 16:46-47, and giving charity is described in Exodus 30:15-16 and Numbers 31:50 as `making atonement for your souls’ – the same expression as in Leviticus 17:11.
Beside all these facts, God promised to forgive sin in the SAME OLD TESTAMENT WITHOUT ANY HINT OF BLOOD SHEDDING ;
# Ezekiel 18:21-22; But if a wicked man turns from all his sins which he has committed, keeps all My statutes, and does what is lawful and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die. NONE OF THE TRANSGRESSIONS which he has committed shall be remembered against him".

# Isaiah 43:23-25; You have not brought Me the sheep of your burnt offerings…or the fat of your sacrifices, but you have burdened Me with your sins…Nevertheless, I will wipe out your transgressions for My own sake, and I WILL NOT REMEMBER YOUR SINS”.

# 2nd Chronicles 7:14; And if My people who are called by My name humble themselves and pray, and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, will FORGIVE THEIR SIN, and will heal their land".
# Jeremiah 36:3; Perhaps when the people of Judah hear about every disaster I plan to inflict on them, they will each turn from their wicked ways; then I WILL FORGIVE THEIR WICKEDNESS AND THEIR SIN .”
So what further evidence do we need to prove that shedding of blood is NOT THE ONLY WAY to obtain divine forgiveness.
Therefore, whether Hebrew 9:22 refers to old testament law or not, the verse is completely WRONG by asserting that WITHOUT THE SHEDDING OF BLOOD THERE IS NO FORGIVENESS.

Hence, there is NO NEED for blood of Jesus to be shed for forgiveness of sin. It would have been an act of CRUELTY and IRRATIONALITY on the part of a merciful father to use an innocent and righteous blood of his own son for atonement of sin given that the same atonement can still be achieved through another rational means (i:e turning from our wicked ways and then engaging in the act of righteousness) as God Himself explained above.

Godisreal55:
@ Jesutakewe and Originakalokalo

I did not wrongly quote Hebrew 9:22. It is you that wanted to modify the obvious meaning of this verse. Let me quote it again;
" In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and WITHOUT THE SHEDDING OF BLOOD THERE IS NO FORGIVENESS (Hebrew 9:22)".
Now you can disassociate your self from the law and claim that you were no longer the law but under the grace. But according to what you believe; was it not the law (made mention in Hebrew 9:22) which Jesus fulfilled that make you entitle to your so-called grace ?
But do you know why the basis of your argument in defending Hebrew 9:22 crumbled to pieces? There is NO ANY OLD TESTAMENT LAW that says "without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness".

Oh really?

" Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a soul shall sin through ignorance against any of the

commandments of the Lord...."
(Leviticus 4: 2)

" And he shall bring the bullock unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation before the LORD;

and shall lay his hand upon the bullock's head, and kill the bullock before the LORD."
(Leviticus 4: 4)

" And the priest that is anointed shall take of the bullock's blood, and bring it to the tabernacle of the congregation:"
(Leviticus 4: 5)


" And he shall do with the bullock as he did with the bullock for a sin offering, so shall he do with this:

and the priest shall make an atonement for them, and it shall be forgiven them."
(Leviticus 4: 20)

Putting hands on the animal symbolises accepting that the animal has taken the sinners place.

You need to accept Jesus sacrifice for it to work for you.Else, ALL YOUR SINS REMAIN.


You quoted some scriptures about making atonement for souls..

making atonement for YOUR SOULS.... NOT YOUR SINS....

Charity is a way to apease God....However, as you have seen in those scriptures, blood of animals were needed for THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS.




After sacrifices were done, it is expedient that Repentance and obedience follow.

God was spelling out that obedience and repentance from their wicked ways are important... He didn't tell them that they should no longer sacrifice for their sins...

He didn't want endless sacrifices without obedience...


John said...Behold the lamb of God that takes away the sins of the world...


(John 3 )
------------
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

The serpent bit the children of Israel in the wilderness... and an image of a serpent was hung on a tree.
They only needed to look at it and be saved...

The sting of sin is dangerous. Look to he that is hung on the cross for your sake.

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

THAT HE GAAAVVVVEEEE HIS ONLY BEGOTHEN SON.
Did you see that ? He gave his son for you.

Lastly,

" I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. "
(John 8: 24)

Jesus repeated the statement " You shall die in your sins" twice.

Pls don't die in your sins.

Your soul shall appear filthy in the Presence of the most high ....

Your Imaam will not be there to speak for you..it will be all man for himself..Take a decision today.

God bless you brother.

Look at John 6 vs 51..

" I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever:

and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world. "
(John 6: 51)


The bread is my flesh... WHICH I GIVE FOR THE LIFE OF THE WORLD.

You see?

Now the flesh of Jesus has become the bread for the WHOLE WORLD. Yet he has already declared; I was sent ONLY to the lost sheep of ISREAL (Matthew 15:24).
Suppose you are being asked to distribute a packet of sweet to some children in your vicinity WITH AN INSTRUCTION TO START WITH THE MALE CHILDREN BEFORE THE FEMALE. Now one of the female children approaches you for the collection of her own sweet. Please before God and man would you say; " I WAS ONLY ASKED TO GIVE THE MALE" ? Of course, you would not utter such kind of statement. You would definitely say "IT IS NOT YET TIME FOR THE FEMALE".
Similarly, if it was already in the divine plan that JESUS AND HIS APOSTLES WOULD PREACH TO THE JEWS FIRST AND THEN TO ALL THE GENTILES, then Jesus' statement directed to that Canaanite woman in Matthew 15:24 should have been: IT IS NOT YET TIME FOR THE GENTILES or something similar in meaning rather than “I WAS SENT ONLY TO THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL”. Why did Jesus have to say such a statement if he was truly sent to the entire world to die for our sins ?
There is NO ANY VERSE in the Qur'an which says Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) or his companions were sent ONLY to the Arabs. But see how the Bible categorically declared that Jesus (pbuh) was sent ONLY to the Israelites; I WAS SENT ONLY TO THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL ( Matthew 15:24) and see how Qur’an declared that Muhammad (pbuh) was sent to ALL MANKIND; " AND WE HAVE NOT SENT YOU (O Muhammad-pbuh) EXCEPT AS A GIVER OF GLAD TIDINGS AND AS A WARNER TO ALL MANKIND (Qur’an 34:28)". If God Almighty bring these two verses ( Matthew 15:24 and Qur'an 34:28) infront of you on the day of Judgement, do you have any excuse to tender before Him?

Abdulgaffar22:
Now the flesh of Jesus has become the bread for the WHOLE WORLD. Yet he has already declared; I was sent ONLY to the lost sheep of ISREAL (Matthew 15:24).
Suppose you are being asked to distribute a packet of sweet to some children in your vicinity WITH AN INSTRUCTION TO START WITH THE MALE CHILDREN BEFORE THE FEMALE. Now one of the female children approaches you for the collection of her own sweet. Please before God and man would you say; " I WAS ONLY ASKED TO GIVE THE MALE" ? Of course, you would not utter such kind of statement. You would definitely say "IT IS NOT YET TIME FOR THE FEMALE".
Similarly, if it was already in the divine plan that JESUS AND HIS APOSTLES WOULD PREACH TO THE JEWS FIRST AND THEN TO ALL THE GENTILES, then Jesus' statement directed to that Canaanite woman in Matthew 15:24 should have been: IT IS NOT YET TIME FOR THE GENTILES or something similar in meaning rather than “I WAS SENT ONLY TO THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL”. Why did Jesus have to say such a statement if he was truly sent to the entire world to die for our sins ?
There is NO ANY VERSE in the Qur'an which says Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) or his companions were sent ONLY to the Arabs. But see how the Bible categorically declared that Jesus (pbuh) was sent ONLY to the Israelites; I WAS SENT ONLY TO THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL ( Matthew 15:24) and see how Qur’an declared that Muhammad (pbuh) was sent to ALL MANKIND; " AND WE HAVE NOT SENT YOU (O Muhammad-pbuh) EXCEPT AS A GIVER OF GLAD TIDINGS AND AS A WARNER TO ALL MANKIND (Qur’an 34:28)". If God Almighty bring these two verses ( Matthew 15:24 and Qur'an 34:28) infront of you on the day of Judgement, do you have any excuse to tender before Him?

This guy will always recycle this point.

I have answered this point times without number...

Jesus was sent to preach to the Jews and Israel...

The disciples were commissioned to preach to the whole world...

Proof:

" And his fame went throughout all Syria: and they brought unto him all sick people that were taken with divers diseases and torments,

and those which were possessed with devils, and those which were lunatick, and those that had the palsy; and he healed them."
(Matthew 4: 24)

Syria is Israel abi?

(Mark 16 )
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15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.


Go yea into the world ...I hope you are baptized?

Jesus told Paul to get out of Jerusalem... And go to the gentiles...

(Acts 22 )
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18 And saw him saying unto me, Make haste, and get thee quickly out of Jerusalem: for they will not receive thy testimony concerning me.

…
21 And he said unto me, Depart: for I will send thee far hence unto the Gentiles.


Pls don't bring this up again

When Jesus (pbuh) was sending out his apostles for evangelical mission, he also warned them categorically to avoid preaching to the Gentiles i:e the Non-Israelites:THESE TWELVE JESUS SENT OUT WITH THE FOLLOWING INSTRUCTIONS; “DO NOT GO AMONG THE GENTILES OR ENTER ANY TOWN OF THE SAMARITANS. GO RATHER TO THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL (Matthew 10:5-6). This further corroborates the fact that Jesus was sent ONLY to the Israelites.
However, many of the Christians believe that this command of "NOT PREACHING TO THE GENTILES" was later cancelled and replaced by the new command of preaching to all the nations just BEFORE Jesus ascended to heaven:
1. Matthew 28:19; "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit".
2. Mark 16.15; “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation.”
3. Acts 1.8 ; "and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.”
4. Luke 24.47; “that repentance for forgiveness of sins should be proclaimed in His name to all the nations, beginning from Jerusalem.”
Therefore, it seems from these four verses that the apostles of Jesus were NOW FREE TO VISIT THE GENTILES AND PREACH THE GOSPEL TO ALL THE NATIONS OF THE WORLD.
But was it REALLY TRUE that the original apostles of Jesus were NOW FREE TO VISIT THE GENTILES AND PREACH THE GOSPELS TO ALL THE NATIONS OF THE WORLD ? Let see what happened between Peter and one influential man called Cornelius. This very incident, which occurred many years AFTER Jesus' departure, goes thus:
"At Caesarea there was a man named Cornelius, a centurion in what was known as the Italian Regiment. He and all his family were devout and God-fearing; he gave generously to those in need and prayed to God regularly. One day at about three in the afternoon he had a vision. He distinctly saw an angel of God, who came to him and said, “Cornelius!” Cornelius stared at him in fear. “What is it, Lord?” he asked. The angel answered, “Your prayers and gifts to the poor have come up as a memorial offering before God. Now send men to Joppa to bring back a man named Simon who is called Peter. He is staying with Simon the tanner, whose house is by the sea.” When the angel who spoke to him had gone, Cornelius called two of his servants and a devout soldier who was one of his attendants. He told them everything that had happened and sent them to Joppa. About noon the following day as they were on their journey and approaching the city, Peter went up on the roof to pray. He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles and birds. Then a voice told him, “Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.” “Surely not, Lord!” Peter replied. “I have never eaten anything impure or unclean.” The voice spoke to him a second time, “do not call anything impure that God has made clean.” This happened three times, and immediately the sheet was taken back to heaven. While Peter was wondering about the meaning of the VISION, the men sent by Cornelius found out where Simon’s house was and stopped at the gate. They called out, asking if Simon who was known as Peter was staying there. While Peter was still thinking about the VISION, the Spirit said to him, “Simon, three men are looking for you. So get up and go downstairs. Do not hesitate to go with them, for I have sent them.” Peter went down and said to the men, “I’m the one you’re looking for. Why have you come?” The men replied, “We have come from Cornelius the centurion. He is a righteous and God-fearing man, who is respected by all the Jewish people. A holy angel told him to ask you to come to his house so that he could hear what you have to say.” Then Peter invited the men into the house to be his guests. The next day Peter started out with them, and some of the believers from Joppa went along.The following day he arrived in Caesarea. Cornelius was expecting them and had called together his relatives and close friends. As Peter entered the house, Cornelius met him and fell at his feet in reverence. But Peter made him get up. “Stand up,” he said, “I am only a man myself.” While talking with him, Peter went inside and found a large gathering of people. He said to them ; "YOU ARE WELL AWARE THAT IT IS AGAINST OUR LAW FOR A JEW TO ASSOCIATE WITH OR VISIT A GENTILE. BUT GOD HAS SHOWN ME THAT I SHOULD NOT CALL ANYONE IMPURE OR UNCLEAN. So when I was sent for, I came without raising any objection. May I ask why you sent for me? (Acts 10:1-29 NIV)"
Remember: it seems from those four verses cited above that the apostles of Jesus were NOW FREE TO VISIT THE GENTILES AND PREACH THE GOSPELS TO ALL THE NATIONS OF THE WORLD. If this is true, then why did Peter have to say : "YOU ARE WELL AWARE THAT IT IS AGAINST OUR LAW FOR A JEW TO ASSOCIATE WITH OR VISIT A GENTILE" ? Was Peter NOT aware that they were now FREE to visit the gentiles and preach the gospel to all the nations of the world?
Some of the Christians argued that the reason why Peter said: "YOU ARE WELL AWARE THAT IT IS AGAINST OUR LAW FOR A JEW TO ASSOCIATE WITH OR VISIT A GENTILE" is because he has forgotten the Jesus'new command of preaching to all the nations of the world. But if this is true, then why did remaining Jewish believers in Christ criticize Peter on the SAME ISSUE OF VISITING AND ASSOCIATING WITH GENTILES on his return to Jerusalem as the following passage revealed ? Have they also forgotten the Jesus'new command of preaching to all the nations of the world? Read the passage below
Acts 11 New Living Translation (NLT)
"Soon the news reached the apostles and other believers in Judea that the Gentiles had received the word of God. But when Peter arrived back in Jerusalem, THE JEWISH BELIEVERS CRITICIZED HIM. “YOU ENTERED THE HOME OF THE GENTILES AND EVEN ATE WITH THEM!” they said (Acts 11:1-3 NLT).
If the other Jewish believers in Christ did not criticize Peter on his arrival to Jerusalem ON THE SAME ISSUE OF VISITING AND ASSOCIATING WITH GENTILES as shown above, then we may think that it was Peter that was saying nonsense when he said "YOU ARE WELL AWARE THAT IT IS AGAINST OUR LAW FOR A JEW TO ASSOCIATE WITH OR VISIT A GENTILE. (Acts 10:28).
The second part of the Peter's statement "BUT GOD HAS SHOWN ME THAT I SHOULD NOT CALL ANYONE IMPURE OR UNCLEAN (Acts 10:28) is only referring to the "VISION" he experienced just before the arrival of the men sent by Cornelius . The statement has NOTHING to do with the so-called Jesus' new command of preaching to all the nations of the world .
Again see the reaction of these Jewish believers in Christ when Peter finished the narration of his Vision; "When they heard this, they had NO FURTHER OBJECTIONS and praised God, saying, "SO THEN, EVEN THE GENTILES, God has granted repentance that leads to life.(Acts 11:18 NIV). Please see the astonishment of these Jewish believers in Christ ; "SO THEN, EVEN THE GENTILES" .
If they have already aware about the Jesus'new command of Preaching to all the Gentile nations in Matthew 28:19, Mark 16:15, Luke 24:47, and Acts 1:8, then WHY ALL THIS ASTONISHMENT?
Again, some Christians want to argue that the reason why Peter said:"YOU ARE WELL AWARE THAT IT IS AGAINST OUR LAW FOR A JEW TO ASSOCIATE WITH OR VISIT A GENTILE(Acts 10:28)" is because Peter and other apostles find it difficult to discard the Jewish custom of not associating and visiting the Gentiles. However,the fact that Peter responded positively to that VISION and departed with those gentiles on the following day is an evidence that he never find it difficult to discard this Jewish custom. Again, it is not possible for the apostles and disciples of Jesus to give PREFERENCE for mere Jewish custom OVER a great and important command from their Master.
What actually preventing them was the command of "NOT PREACHING TO THE GENTILES" in Matthew 10:5-6 and the fact that Jesus told them CATEGORICALLY that he was sent ONLY to the lost sheep of the house of Israel( Matthew15:24).
Do you think Peter would follow those gentiles to meet Cornelius if not because of the Spirit that commanded him not to hesitate to go with them; "While Peter was still thinking about the VISION, the Spirit said to him, “Simon, three men are looking for you. So get up and go downstairs. Do not hesitate to go with them, for I have sent them(Acts 10:19-20)”.
From all these facts, it can be deduced that even if there is a record that Peter and other apostles preach to another Gentile apart from Cornelius and his households, then what "PERMIT" them to do this was the VISION that Peter experienced. It is DEFINITELY NOT the new command of preaching to all the nations of the world attributed FALSELY to Jesus in Matthew 28:19, Mark 16:15, Luke 24:47 and Acts 1:8. Otherwise, the story of events between Peter and Cornelius (Acts 10:1-28) and also between Peter and other Jewish believers in Christ (Acts 11:1-18) are NOT TRUE.
God Almighty allowed the story of events between "Peter and Cornelius" and also between "Peter and the remaining Jewish believers" to be kept till today so that the evidence of the FORGERY behind Matthew 28:19, Mark 16:15, Luke 24:47 and Acts 1:8 can be clearly seen by every diligent reader of the Bible.

Islam is far far more reasonable than Christianity, yet it can not stand on it's own and make sense. Without the Bible, there will be no koran. Without the Bible, Muhammad won't even know the word 'Prophet'. (even though he does not understand what being entails).

Did you read what your koran says and make sense out of it?

Where was Adamu and his wife before they sinned?

What was Allah's plan that needed to be fulfilled only when Adamu and Hauwa sinned?

And, why is you Op littered with the Bible passages, i though Islam makes more sense than Christianity.

It's only someone who is suffering from inferiority complex sees a need to compete and judge himself better than the others.

Work on yourself esteem muslim.

drips8:

So, catholicism needs adulteration?

Is Catholicism a Standard for Christianity?

enilove:
Op , why would God allow satan to deceive Adam and Eve since He knew such sin would make majority to be punished In hell forever ?

Is this not evil ? Is this allah of the quran not different from God Jehovah of the Bible to you ?

The Bible makes us to know that earth was created for mankind and that Adam started existing here on earth and not in heaven contrary to Islam and the quran .

I wonder oh! The first paragraph is contrary to what bible says.

I’m a Muslim and I know everything about Islam is based on lies, Muhammad is a guy man.. a paedophile and a liar

Abdulgaffar22:
When Jesus (pbuh) was sending out his apostles for evangelical mission, he also warned them categorically to avoid preaching to the Gentiles i:e the Non-Israelites:THESE TWELVE JESUS SENT OUT WITH THE FOLLOWING INSTRUCTIONS; “DO NOT GO AMONG THE GENTILES OR ENTER ANY TOWN OF THE SAMARITANS. GO RATHER TO THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL (Matthew 10:5-6). This further corroborates the fact that Jesus was sent ONLY to the Israelites.
However, many of the Christians believe that this command of "NOT PREACHING TO THE GENTILES" was later cancelled and replaced by the new command of preaching to all the nations just BEFORE Jesus ascended to heaven:
1. Matthew 28:19; "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit".
2. Mark 16.15; “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation.”
3. Acts 1.8 ; "and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.”
4. Luke 24.47; “that repentance for forgiveness of sins should be proclaimed in His name to all the nations, beginning from Jerusalem.”
Therefore, it seems from these four verses that the apostles of Jesus were NOW FREE TO VISIT THE GENTILES AND PREACH THE GOSPEL TO ALL THE NATIONS OF THE WORLD.
But was it REALLY TRUE that the original apostles of Jesus were NOW FREE TO VISIT THE GENTILES AND PREACH THE GOSPELS TO ALL THE NATIONS OF THE WORLD ? Let see what happened between Peter and one influential man called Cornelius. This very incident, which occurred many years AFTER Jesus' departure, goes thus:
"At Caesarea there was a man named Cornelius, a centurion in what was known as the Italian Regiment. He and all his family were devout and God-fearing; he gave generously to those in need and prayed to God regularly. One day at about three in the afternoon he had a vision. He distinctly saw an angel of God, who came to him and said, “Cornelius!” Cornelius stared at him in fear. “What is it, Lord?” he asked. The angel answered, “Your prayers and gifts to the poor have come up as a memorial offering before God. Now send men to Joppa to bring back a man named Simon who is called Peter. He is staying with Simon the tanner, whose house is by the sea.” When the angel who spoke to him had gone, Cornelius called two of his servants and a devout soldier who was one of his attendants. He told them everything that had happened and sent them to Joppa. About noon the following day as they were on their journey and approaching the city, Peter went up on the roof to pray. He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles and birds. Then a voice told him, “Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.” “Surely not, Lord!” Peter replied. “I have never eaten anything impure or unclean.” The voice spoke to him a second time, “do not call anything impure that God has made clean.” This happened three times, and immediately the sheet was taken back to heaven. While Peter was wondering about the meaning of the VISION, the men sent by Cornelius found out where Simon’s house was and stopped at the gate. They called out, asking if Simon who was known as Peter was staying there. While Peter was still thinking about the VISION, the Spirit said to him, “Simon, three men are looking for you. So get up and go downstairs. Do not hesitate to go with them, for I have sent them.” Peter went down and said to the men, “I’m the one you’re looking for. Why have you come?” The men replied, “We have come from Cornelius the centurion. He is a righteous and God-fearing man, who is respected by all the Jewish people. A holy angel told him to ask you to come to his house so that he could hear what you have to say.” Then Peter invited the men into the house to be his guests. The next day Peter started out with them, and some of the believers from Joppa went along.The following day he arrived in Caesarea. Cornelius was expecting them and had called together his relatives and close friends. As Peter entered the house, Cornelius met him and fell at his feet in reverence. But Peter made him get up. “Stand up,” he said, “I am only a man myself.” While talking with him, Peter went inside and found a large gathering of people. He said to them ; "YOU ARE WELL AWARE THAT IT IS AGAINST OUR LAW FOR A JEW TO ASSOCIATE WITH OR VISIT A GENTILE. BUT GOD HAS SHOWN ME THAT I SHOULD NOT CALL ANYONE IMPURE OR UNCLEAN. So when I was sent for, I came without raising any objection. May I ask why you sent for me? (Acts 10:1-29 NIV)"
Remember: it seems from those four verses cited above that the apostles of Jesus were NOW FREE TO VISIT THE GENTILES AND PREACH THE GOSPELS TO ALL THE NATIONS OF THE WORLD. If this is true, then why did Peter have to say : "YOU ARE WELL AWARE THAT IT IS AGAINST OUR LAW FOR A JEW TO ASSOCIATE WITH OR VISIT A GENTILE" ? Was Peter NOT aware that they were now FREE to visit the gentiles and preach the gospel to all the nations of the world?
Some of the Christians argued that the reason why Peter said: "YOU ARE WELL AWARE THAT IT IS AGAINST OUR LAW FOR A JEW TO ASSOCIATE WITH OR VISIT A GENTILE" is because he has forgotten the Jesus'new command of preaching to all the nations of the world. But if this is true, then why did remaining Jewish believers in Christ criticize Peter on the SAME ISSUE OF VISITING AND ASSOCIATING WITH GENTILES on his return to Jerusalem as the following passage revealed ? Have they also forgotten the Jesus'new command of preaching to all the nations of the world? Read the passage below
Acts 11 New Living Translation (NLT)
"Soon the news reached the apostles and other believers in Judea that the Gentiles had received the word of God. But when Peter arrived back in Jerusalem, THE JEWISH BELIEVERS CRITICIZED HIM. “YOU ENTERED THE HOME OF THE GENTILES AND EVEN ATE WITH THEM!” they said (Acts 11:1-3 NLT).
If the other Jewish believers in Christ did not criticize Peter on his arrival to Jerusalem ON THE SAME ISSUE OF VISITING AND ASSOCIATING WITH GENTILES as shown above, then we may think that it was Peter that was saying nonsense when he said "YOU ARE WELL AWARE THAT IT IS AGAINST OUR LAW FOR A JEW TO ASSOCIATE WITH OR VISIT A GENTILE. (Acts 10:28).
The second part of the Peter's statement "BUT GOD HAS SHOWN ME THAT I SHOULD NOT CALL ANYONE IMPURE OR UNCLEAN (Acts 10:28) is only referring to the "VISION" he experienced just before the arrival of the men sent by Cornelius . The statement has NOTHING to do with the so-called Jesus' new command of preaching to all the nations of the world .
Again see the reaction of these Jewish believers in Christ when Peter finished the narration of his Vision; "When they heard this, they had NO FURTHER OBJECTIONS and praised God, saying, "SO THEN, EVEN THE GENTILES, God has granted repentance that leads to life.(Acts 11:18 NIV). Please see the astonishment of these Jewish believers in Christ ; "SO THEN, EVEN THE GENTILES" .
If they have already aware about the Jesus'new command of Preaching to all the Gentile nations in Matthew 28:19, Mark 16:15, Luke 24:47, and Acts 1:8, then WHY ALL THIS ASTONISHMENT?
Again, some Christians want to argue that the reason why Peter said:"YOU ARE WELL AWARE THAT IT IS AGAINST OUR LAW FOR A JEW TO ASSOCIATE WITH OR VISIT A GENTILE(Acts 10:28)" is because Peter and other apostles find it difficult to discard the Jewish custom of not associating and visiting the Gentiles. However,the fact that Peter responded positively to that VISION and departed with those gentiles on the following day is an evidence that he never find it difficult to discard this Jewish custom. Again, it is not possible for the apostles and disciples of Jesus to give PREFERENCE for mere Jewish custom OVER a great and important command from their Master.
What actually preventing them was the command of "NOT PREACHING TO THE GENTILES" in Matthew 10:5-6 and the fact that Jesus told them CATEGORICALLY that he was sent ONLY to the lost sheep of the house of Israel( Matthew15:24).
Do you think Peter would follow those gentiles to meet Cornelius if not because of the Spirit that commanded him not to hesitate to go with them; "While Peter was still thinking about the VISION, the Spirit said to him, “Simon, three men are looking for you. So get up and go downstairs. Do not hesitate to go with them, for I have sent them(Acts 10:19-20)”.
From all these facts, it can be deduced that even if there is a record that Peter and other apostles preach to another Gentile apart from Cornelius and his households, then what "PERMIT" them to do this was the VISION that Peter experienced. It is DEFINITELY NOT the new command of preaching to all the nations of the world attributed FALSELY to Jesus in Matthew 28:19, Mark 16:15, Luke 24:47 and Acts 1:8. Otherwise, the story of events between Peter and Cornelius (Acts 10:1-28) and also between Peter and other Jewish believers in Christ (Acts 11:1-18) are NOT TRUE.
God Almighty allowed the story of events between "Peter and Cornelius" and also between "Peter and the remaining Jewish believers" to be kept till today so that the evidence of the FORGERY behind Matthew 28:19, Mark 16:15, Luke 24:47 and Acts 1:8 can be clearly seen by every diligent reader of the Bible.

This is an old testament scripture. Take a look:

" And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious."
(Isaiah 11: 10)

A root out of Jesse is Jesus...and the gentiles truly seek him...

That was a forgery too? even before Jesus? The gentiles are after thought in the matters of salvation?

That scriptures and many others are written in plain English. I hope you can see it?

Concerning Cornelius, it was God that rebuked Peter not to call whatever has been made clean unclean.

You deliberately left the part where Peter went and preached and all his household accepted Jesus.

The same God commissioned Paul to preach to the gentiles...

Why do you guys tooth-pick the scriptures that suit you and then brand the others as forgery?

This method is laughable, shameful and immature.

Now that billions of the gentiles have accepted Jesus, what would you do?

Gentiles now take the gospel to the so called Jews.

You need to give your life to Jesus. So that he can give you eternal life and he promised those who believe in him..

Without Jesus, you are condemned..

All this posts and counter posts is for you to come out of darkness...

Just don't die in your sins. I beg you....

If you do, you won't be able to correct what awaits you in the after life.

Many of you are tired of being a Muslim... But you fear what will be done to you if you change your believe.

After death, you will stand alone...all by yourself.

Besides, you can discreetly accept Jesus and worship him....Relocate, do everything you can....

Just accept Jesus.

He is the only one that promised us life. The only way.