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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:51pm On Dec 04, 2018
rvp20183:
You got jokes! grin grin Lagos to deliver 472 units Ilubirin housing scheme next year. Clearly at that rate you'll never move forward. grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

I mean in Kibera alone we did 3,000 units...

And now Kenya in next five years will deliver 500,000 UNITS of HOUSING. That gov part - and it already funded by tax deductions.


Something is wrong with you nigerians. No wonder you can only get 1 or 2 pictures to support your thesis.

472 units is something a private developer can do alone.

The problem - YOUR MINUSCULE BUDGET & NON-EXISTENT TAX BASE mean there is really no money to pay salaries & recurrent expenditures leave alone develop Nigeria.

they say he got jokes 472 units hahahaha for makoko grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 5:02pm On Dec 04, 2018
Kur17:
Lagos CBD (slums)


I can't see the light rail bridge in the picture. Outdated pictures. Bhuhahahaha! grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kur17: 5:03pm On Dec 04, 2018
tlann:
removing speck from your brother's eye while you have a log in your eye just look at that lagos cbd mungu wangu kwani ni muthurwa ama gikomba

No wonder they avoid posting their pictures here... too bad.

And to them that is not a slum, you ask yourself then "how doe's their real slums look like"

I used to think it looked like Eastleigh but evidently it's more worse than gikombaa

Nigeria obviously way behind Kenya in development, everything suggests so, from their 'cities', streets to the cars they drive...
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:05pm On Dec 04, 2018
Not with your budget.Nairobi city is full.Maybe the metro.Slums are a result of strict zonning and poverty.Your poverty is more extensive and extreme than us.
68816419:


Very daft analysis, and you think 472 units is the only projects going on at Makoko or even lagos at large, makoko is not like hundreds of your slums, the place keeps shrinking day by day while new slums keeps springing out in Nairobi .
Man,i just went through your government website to see your claims i found that your government has done little in upgrading slums in Nairobi, they have only built less than 1500 houses in the whole of the country in the course of 15 years for a country known to be having the largest and highest numbers of slums in the world. cry cry cry cry cry

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 5:07pm On Dec 04, 2018
jaycent:
Na foolish blogers from Useless Kenya na grin grin

Ah! No wonder. All fake things from there. grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 5:08pm On Dec 04, 2018
Kur17:



Surely without being biased, the situation in Nigeria is seemingly getting worse by time

2/3 Lagos residence are slum dwellers that translates to over 7million people, and the number is increasing by seconds

Trying to tackle it with few hundreds of units is like a drop in the ocean

how about a small area with the highest numbers of slums in the world,

Dandora slums
141,885

Gatwekera (Gatuikira) slums

70,000
Kangemi
" Kangemi likely has more than 100,000 [/b]residents. While it is a multi-ethnic slum, the largest group of residents consists of the Luhya tribe"

[b]Kawangware slums

According to the 2009 Kenya Population and Housing Census, Kawangware's population was 133,286 people at this time. It is estimated that 65% of the population are children and youths. Most inhabitants live on less than $1 (although they earn in shillings) a day and unemployment is high; many are self-employed traders. There is a diversity of ethnic backgrounds.[1]
has a scarcity of safe drinking water. Water supplied by the city authority is not available every day[2] or is otherwise expensive.[1] There are waterborne diseases, respiratory pneumonia, malaria as well as an increase in cases of airborne diseases due to the poor sewerage system in Kawangware.[1] Many people in Kawangware are HIV-positive.

Mathare
is a collection of slums in Nairobi, Kenya with a population of approximately 500,000 people;the population of Mathare Valley alone, the oldest of the slums that make up Mathare, is 180,000 people. Mathare is the home of football teams Mathare United and Real Mathare of the MYSA.
and the list go on,
Man, Kenya is hell on earth , i will advice you guys to challenge your government and develop the other parts of Nairobi as your CBD is only 2% of the land mass.

embarassed embarassed embarassed embarassed

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 5:09pm On Dec 04, 2018
Kenyanstar:

grin grin grin grin grin grin
Nigerians like deceiving themselves.... The ones on this thread are the worst delusional ones.

This is what Nigerians say about ABUJA

KPADUMA SLUMS-ABUJA

https://www.icirnigeria.org/abuja-midst-slums-story-fast-decaying-city/








Aborigines villages. Tough luck, try again. Next! cheesy
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 5:15pm On Dec 04, 2018
tlann:
they say he got jokes 472 units hahahaha for makoko grin grin
and how many buildings has you crazy government built to reducing the over 1 millions slums dwellers trooping in their on a daily bases?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ARKdiscloser7(m): 5:15pm On Dec 04, 2018
Thank God I am not a Nigerian, #biafran. I left since their youths are happily beating drum for an 80 year old uneducated tribal bigot to come back to power again.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 5:19pm On Dec 04, 2018
tlann:
they say he got jokes 472 units hahahaha for makoko grin grin
and how many buildings has you crazy government built to reducing the over 1 millions slums dwellers trooping in their on a daily bases?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:23pm On Dec 04, 2018
68816419:


how about a small area with the highest numbers of slums in the world,

Dandora slums
141,885

Gatwekera (Gatuikira) slums

70,000
Kangemi
" Kangemi likely has more than 100,000 [/b]residents. While it is a multi-ethnic slum, the largest group of residents consists of the Luhya tribe"

[b]Kawangware slums

According to the 2009 Kenya Population and Housing Census, Kawangware's population was 133,286 people at this time. It is estimated that 65% of the population are children and youths. Most inhabitants live on less than $1 (although they earn in shillings) a day and unemployment is high; many are self-employed traders. There is a diversity of ethnic backgrounds.[1]
has a scarcity of safe drinking water. Water supplied by the city authority is not available every day[2] or is otherwise expensive.[1] There are waterborne diseases, respiratory pneumonia, malaria as well as an increase in cases of airborne diseases due to the poor sewerage system in Kawangware.[1] Many people in Kawangware are HIV-positive.

Mathare
is a collection of slums in Nairobi, Kenya with a population of approximately 500,000 people;the population of Mathare Valley alone, the oldest of the slums that make up Mathare, is 180,000 people. Mathare is the home of football teams Mathare United and Real Mathare of the MYSA.
and the list go on,
Man, Kenya is hell on earth , i will advice you guys to challenge your government and develop the other parts of Nairobi as your CBD is only 2% of the land mass.

embarassed embarassed embarassed embarassed
dandora slum that is not true it is not a slum if dandora could be in Lagos it could have been a gated community what i know of dandora is criminals that place is full hardcore criminals our government is doing something they are constructing 500k houses in Nairobi it is your govt which is doing nothing about your slums mathare slum cannot hold 500k people that is a lie
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kur17: 5:29pm On Dec 04, 2018
68816419:


how about a small area with the highest numbers of slums in the world,

Dandora slums
141,885

Gatwekera (Gatuikira) slums

70,000
Kangemi
" Kangemi likely has more than 100,000 [/b]residents. While it is a multi-ethnic slum, the largest group of residents consists of the Luhya tribe"

[b]Kawangware slums

According to the 2009 Kenya Population and Housing Census, Kawangware's population was 133,286 people at this time. It is estimated that 65% of the population are children and youths. Most inhabitants live on less than $1 (although they earn in shillings) a day and unemployment is high; many are self-employed traders. There is a diversity of ethnic backgrounds.[1]
has a scarcity of safe drinking water. Water supplied by the city authority is not available every day[2] or is otherwise expensive.[1] There are waterborne diseases, respiratory pneumonia, malaria as well as an increase in cases of airborne diseases due to the poor sewerage system in Kawangware.[1] Many people in Kawangware are HIV-positive.

Mathare
is a collection of slums in Nairobi, Kenya with a population of approximately 500,000 people;the population of Mathare Valley alone, the oldest of the slums that make up Mathare, is 180,000 people. Mathare is the home of football teams Mathare United and Real Mathare of the MYSA.
and the list go on,
Man, Kenya is hell on earth , i will advice you guys to challenge your government and develop the other parts of Nairobi as your CBD is only 2% of the land mass.

embarassed embarassed embarassed embarassed

All that sums up to less than half a million slum dwellers, what about Lagos 7million

And the good news for Kenya is that slums are reducing unlike Nigeria...
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:30pm On Dec 04, 2018
68816419:

and how many buildings has you crazy government built to reducing the over 1 millions slums dwellers trooping in their on a daily bases?
3000 housing units in kibera 472 units is a joke in makoko 500k to built in Nairobi alone and what is your govt doing to reduce your number of slums our govt is doing something you should visit kibra and see the ongoing slum upgrading projects taking place their and stop blaming our govt as if your cities are any better
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:33pm On Dec 04, 2018
68816419:

and how many buildings has you crazy government built to reducing the over 1 millions slums dwellers trooping in their on a daily bases?
if you add all slumdwellers they don't make a million kibera is the largest and has 176k people and slums are being upgraded in Kenya what about your country makoko keeps on expanding to the Atlantic ocean
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jaycent(m): 5:34pm On Dec 04, 2018
forgiveness:


Ah! No wonder. All fake things from there. grin
Hahahaha grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jaycent(m): 5:35pm On Dec 04, 2018
forgiveness:



I can't see the light rail bridge in the picture. Outdated pictures. Bhuhahahaha! grin
Stab me plastic plate hahahaha grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 5:40pm On Dec 04, 2018
tlann:
dandora slum that is not true it is not a slum if dandora could be in Lagos it could have been a gated community what i know of dandora is criminals that place is full hardcore criminals our government is doing something they are constructing 500k houses in Nairobi it is your govt which is doing nothing about your slums mathare slum cannot hold 500k people that is a lie

show me evidences that shows your government has constructed up to 5 thousands houses and not the so called 500k and mind you that Nigeria is also constructing I million units every but that aint enough.
If Dandora does not have slums, it means no where in the world has slums.
check out this clip

http://www.africanslumjournal.com/slums-footwear-statement/

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:44pm On Dec 04, 2018
68816419:


showing me the evidences that shows your government has constructed up to 5 thousands houses and not the so called 500k, of course Nigeria is also constructing I million units every but that aint enough.
If Dandora does not have slums, it means no where in the world also has slums.
that is dandora dumpsite pictures not slum you should also show me where you govt builds 1million houses every year
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kur17: 5:52pm On Dec 04, 2018
This apartments are part of kibera phs 1 upgrading programme, Zone A 822units

This is the part which is called "Raila estate"

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 5:54pm On Dec 04, 2018
tlann:
if you add all slumdwellers they don't make a million kibera is the largest and has 176k people and slums are being upgraded in Kenya what about your country makoko keeps on expanding to the Atlantic ocean
keep deceiving your self while your government acknowledged the fact that 67% of Nairobi populations leaves in slums .

file:///C:/Users/ACL-Client07/Downloads/UN-HABITAT%20and%20Kenya%20Slum%20Upgrading%20Programme%20(KENSUP).pdf

bellow screen shots were extracted from the information provided and submitted by your government to UNHabitat

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kur17: 5:57pm On Dec 04, 2018
ARKdiscloser7:
Thank God I am not a Nigerian, #biafran. I left since their youths are happily beating drum for an 80 year old uneducated tribal bigot to come back to power again.

That lifeless leader is a Sudanese grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 5:59pm On Dec 04, 2018
Kur17:
This apartments are part of kibera phs 1 upgrading programme, Zone A 822units

This is the part which is called "Raila estate"
Kenyans your lies no be here !!!! grin
Man,can you please provide links that your government has built only 3000 housing unites of the mirage 500k houses proposed ?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 6:01pm On Dec 04, 2018
Kur17:


That lifeless leader is a Sudanese grin

better than a drunkard grin grin grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kur17: 6:03pm On Dec 04, 2018
rvp20183:
Nairobi-Thika Superhighway.









If this was in Lagos, smoke and colour yellow could have been the dominant scenes
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:04pm On Dec 04, 2018
68816419:

keep deceiving your self while your government acknowledged the fact that 67% of Nairobi populations leaves in slums .

file:///C:/Users/ACL-Client07/Downloads/UN-HABITAT%20and%20Kenya%20Slum%20Upgrading%20Programme%20(KENSUP).pdf

bellow screen shots were extracted from the information provided and submitted by your government to UNHabitat
you are the one deceiving yourself our government is constructing houses for slum dwellers while your govt is doing nothing you entire cities are slums while you are here concerned about Kenyan slums instead of worrying about your slums what do you call that
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 6:06pm On Dec 04, 2018
Kur17:


All that sums up to less than half a million slum dwellers, what about Lagos 7million

And the good news for Kenya is that slums are reducing unlike Nigeria...

your slums aint reducing rather new ones are springing up on a daily bases cool cool
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:10pm On Dec 04, 2018
68816419:

Kenyans your lies no be here !!!! grin
Man,can you please provide links that your government has built only 3000 housing unites of the mirage 500k houses proposed ?
you are the one lying to us you have just told me you government build 1 million houses every year with no proof if you see we are lying about kibera housing projects just Google kibera housing projects to know the truth
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:11pm On Dec 04, 2018
68816419:


your slums aint reducing rather new ones are springing up on a daily bases cool cool
and how about Nigerian slums ?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 6:13pm On Dec 04, 2018
tlann:
you are the one deceiving yourself our government is constructing houses for slum dwellers while your govt is doing nothing you entire cities are slums while you are here concerned about Kenyan slums instead of worrying about your slums what do you call that
you said your government is constructing over 500k houses, i am now challenging you to provide evidences that your government has constructed up 5k houses since they began the so called slums upgrades ?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 6:14pm On Dec 04, 2018
tlann:
and how about Nigerian slums ?
just show me evidence that govmnt is building up to 5k houses has been built?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jaycent(m): 6:19pm On Dec 04, 2018
68816419:


better than a drunkard grin grin grin grin
Hahahaha grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 6:22pm On Dec 04, 2018
rvp20183:
It coz our cities are planned and ZONAL laws strictly enforced. And we stopped building social housing. Nigeria cities are not planned..so the slums are not contigous like in Kenya. Nigeria has a more SERIOUS problems. Nigeria cities are mixed development - slum next to bungalow next to maisonette next to apartment next to office block next to an industry next to farm next to forest.

Our mess is easy to solve. Slums occupy 5% of land in cities - illegally built - we can easily upgrade the slums and voila we have modern cities.

Now Nigeria - entire cities would need to be demolished - then zones established - then new city built from the scratch. Only Abuja would be spared...but generally speaking you will have to build more Abuja (completely new cities) and hopefully keep strict zonning laws.

This is the mess you're talking about nigeria - 95% of SLUMPOLIS - built by legal owners of the land in all shapes and manner- compared to temporary structures in our slums built along valleys & rivers - that can be demolished or upgraded easily.

[img]https://2.bp..com/-92zRYqtwzXA/V_TDUBBNDlI/AAAAAAAAXtg/lbE4EBS9oBo2pykovD4-a7h8eUcyCYw-wCLcB/s1600/kano-city2.jpg[/img]



No single village is planned in Kenya. Lying machine. grin

Unlike Abuja, Lagos state and Some cities in Rivers state. grin

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