Basher8583:


FBI lol... no hating hia oh Arabs no get chill. Dia own worse pass Malaysia oh.
Ok continue to decive yourself. Im sure you are one of those people loitering at the dubai airport trying to familiarise with us to carry goods to Nigeria when we come to spend money in Dubai. Hustler giving Nigeria a bad name.

lwkmd, i give up on u bro. now i can understand your low mentality, u think every successful igbo person is into illegal biz? pele... change ur mindset maka ndu gi

One of my course mates is the daughter of a prominent politician in the South Western Nigeria, maybe on your behalf I will ask her why her dad and his cohorts failed to develop Nigeria but send their kids abroad for education, better living standard and security.
Before you question my patriotism, tell me the last time you made your voice heard in your local government about epileptic power supply, bad roads, jobs and inadequate infrastructures. You can crawl back into your hole till then but I apologise if I miss your point, your argument just doesn't seem to add up

Delivar:

I am not resenting the white man. You didn't read my my post properly to grasp the meaning.


I am glad you asked how you are responsible for the rot in your motherland. So let me explain it to you.

There are millions of you who have exited your country or still planning to take an exit. The belief that the country is not working has made millions of you focus your energy on leaving the country rather than focusing your energy to make your country work. You all want a shortcut to comfort and it is this desire to leave the country that has made you lazy to fight and make your country better. Now let me ask you this, what if everyone running away from the country are staying back to fight to make the country progress do you think things would be as bad as it is today?

So you think the citizens have no ability to change the country? Is that your silly excuse? Let me ask you a question, what if American or European politicians become incompetent like Nigerian politicians and their citizens start experiencing the problems Nigerians face like lack of power supply, roads, health care etc do you think their citizens will relax and say what resources do they have to change things? I bet there would be an eruption and things will change by force. This is exactly what Nigerians are not doing. The fact that Nigerians are relaxing over the problems we have and the fact that you have ran away to a white man's land rather than fighting clearly shows you are also responsible for the rot in your motherland.

riqblaze:
@op at some point you have to tell yourself the truth. If a Nigerian child dreams of being a rocket scientist, is it possible for him to actualize that dream in Nigeria? Or if he dreams of being a researcher in plasma physics or in nano materials and maybe condensed matter physics, is it possible to actualize those dreams in Nigeria? You see the problem comes with our idea of what it means to "make it in life". Apologies, but not everybody wants to build a house in the village, build one in Lekki, take a chieftaincy title, drive a Range Rover sport and maybe employ a few people and all those other things most people see as making it in life. Different people have different goals in life and Nigeria cannot help you achieve those goals and would kill your dreams on a good day.

Where I am now, the university is like a tourist site. Parents bring their children and schools bring their pupils to the school and say to them, if you study hard, you will be here someday. I've met students here who are the 3rd generation from their family. It's a thing of pride and a family dream to study in Tsinghua University for the average Chinese. Here, you will see the reward for hardwork. If you work hard, you will be successful. Can you say the same for Nigeria? Can you truthfully tell yourself that hardwork pays in Nigeria? It's things like these that make people to leave. Most of us want to bring up our kids to value hardwork and see that it pays, not just in words but in example. Most people are looking for a sane society to train their children.

Nigeria as a country has killed many childhood dreams. A country that forces you to study microbiology instead of medicine after wasting 4 years of your life and then still asks you to go and farm or teach when you graduate and give you paltry sums under one useless youth empowerment scheme. Many young people are frustrated in Nigeria and it's because they do not see a future for themselves here.

As a country, we're still on the banal level of survival. Everyone just wants to survive. Most don't even have enough for today and you're asking them to dream. Little wonder most young people now believe that the only way out is through ritual killing and internet scam.

Like I said, at some point you will tell yourself the truth and come out of this self deceit.

That's my point in a more elaborate way. Thank you!

winj3:


I have tried and if I continue to try it on people like you it will not work.
Go ask colonizers, expatriates, foreign visitors how difficult it is to teach Nigerians commonsense! You can take apes to library but you cannot make them understand!

Nigerians are exposed to TV, radio, foreign education, skills and knowledge transfer - but they are still stupid!

it's the cultural shackles that they still hold on to and have refused to break that is killing them.

No matter of exposure can cure that

Ugosample:


it's the cultural shackles that they still hold on to and have refused to break that is killing them.

No matter of exposure can cure that

so western culture is exposure?
What cultural shackles is holding nigerian down?

winj3:


I have tried and if I continue to try it on people like you it will not work.
Go ask colonizers, expatriates, foreign visitors how difficult it is to teach Nigerians commonsense! You can take apes to library but you cannot make them understand!

Nigerians are exposed to TV, radio, foreign education, skills and knowledge transfer - but they are still stupid!

your problem is that you think that you have to boss them to hear your points

Babysho:


Are Gboys being celebrated in US? Is looting accepted in the US? Don't you ever feel a kind of way when your government officials take money belonging to you and use it to buy cars to show off in your face. I know it seems like I'm raising little points which are not that bad but when you add them all up it becomes a huge mess. When it becomes too much for a human to take, that's when you decide to leave Nigeria. Some people just have more endurance than others.

you acting they are all saint over there

what about the nigerian scammers and drug dealers living all over europe, asia and america

thebosstrevor:

your problem is that you think that you have to boss them to hear your points

Many oppressors of Nigeria had to brutalize and kill the people to make them achieve this level of civilization (wear cloth and go school), you think speaking with authority is bad?

I can tell you that most black Africans (not just Nigerians) need dictatorships to become civilized. It has to be forced upon them, no other way...otherwise you wait for several centuries like slavery.

Wow! what a read from this very funny thread.

I notice that the OP of this thread has been all over the place. It is so obvious that the OP of the this thread just from his multiple post one could sense bitterness, anger, jealousy and frustrations even though it has some valid points.

This argument can continue to go on and on till kingdom come it still will not change people's adamant minds of what they what to do about their lives or how they feel about the current very sad state of Nigeria.

Delivar:

Saying the truth that Nigeria is has a poor standard of living is not the problem, but jubilating about living abroad and enjoying a better life as an African while your homeland is a mess is what is disgraceful.

Nigerians abroad sending money back home doesn't solve Nigeria's problem. The money sent to relatives is just to buy food and build a house while the main national problems remain there. It's like giving food to a hungry man who will become hungry tomorrow again because he hasn't figured out how to manage his life properly to make him permanently able to care for himself. Nigerians abroad sending money will not improve power supply, education, stamp out corruption and usher in security. So don't even talk about it.

from your post I can see that you don't have a full grasp of how the economy works. Do you know that the money to buy food and build houses help in stimulating the economy by extensive moving the economy forward more than the ones ( you rich folks and politicians ) are sending abroad?

Do you know why during certain economic problem the economy policy is geared towards spending ?

Sorry bro I really do not have the time to give you a lecture on basic economics.

On a serious note this is my last reply to you on this issue maybe someday in the future you may have studied/read wide enough to understand my point. I am sure when that day comes you will thank me.

thebosstrevor:



the reality is this, most of the 22 billions are from funds stolen here in nigeria, you see some people steal funds in nigeria, send it abroad then send it back to nigeria, to make it look legal

if it true that people abroad remmited that amount so why did we have dollars shortage?

Bros you are wrong. Remember that the policy was changed few years back and when you transfer money to Nigeria the banks give you the naira equivalent. Remember that there are Nigerian all over the world people sending from Asia, Europe, South America etc so for uniformity it is based on dollar equivalent.

As per the money taken abroad my our politicians those money are invested in real estate, spend on traveling, hospital bills, children education they are not bringing it back home.

winj3:


Many oppressors of Nigeria had to brutalize and kill the people to make them achieve this level of civilization (wear cloth and go school), you think speaking with authority is bad?

I can tell you that most black Africans (not just Nigerians) need dictatorships to become civilized. It has to be forced upon them, no other way...otherwise you wait for several centuries like slavery.

true

naunasabi:


You are right to a large extend. But also in Nigerian many people who want to work their ass** off but the bitter truth is no job. Even when they can they can't live a decent life out of it. Abroad if you no work no food for you ooh. . Even your brother no fit feed you.

But back home people are more liberal when it comes to assisting others maybe because they understand that opportunity is limited and the pay that comes with it is small.

You just nailed it.nice one bro

NONNYG:
lwkmd, i give up on u bro. now i can understand your low mentality, u think every successful igbo person is into illegal biz? pele... change ur mindset maka ndu gi

No need for insults. The message is clear stop being a slave to the Arabs (Muslims that you despise) and come back to your biafra land to develop it.
You will soon know the truth. Thank me later for the advice

naunasabi:


from your post I can see that you don't have a full grasp of how the economy works. Do you know that the money to buy food and build houses help in stimulating the economy by extensive moving the economy forward more than the ones ( you rich folks and politicians ) are sending abroad?

Do you know why during certain economic problem the economy policy is geared towards spending ?

Sorry bro I really do not have the time to give you a lecture on basic economics.

On a serious note this is my last reply to you on this issue maybe someday in the future you may have studied/read wide enough to understand my point. I am sure when that day comes you will thank me.

I never said it doesn't help a bit. But it's insignificant. Can the money sent by Nigerians fix our power supply? Can it fix our bad roads? Can it stop corruption? Can it improve healthcare?

Delivar:

I never said it doesn't help a bit. But it's insignificant. Can the money sent by Nigerians fix our power supply? Can it fix our bad roads? Can it stop corruption? Can it improve healthcare?

I know I said I won't respond to you anymore but on a second thought that is not a nice thing to say to someone that is clearly out to have a conversation. So I take that back.

To your question yes the money can be invest in capital project and can be used in fixing our power sector ( that is if the politicians don't steal it ). FGN has raised 300 million dollars from diaspora bond
https://qz.com/africa/1014533/nigeria-has-raised-300-million-from-its-first-ever-diaspora-bond/

If those monies are well utilized more people will invest in it and we as nation might not need to go looking for aid to finance our developmental activities.

thebosstrevor:
Many of you will never travel out. Continue living in ur grand delusion.

Start building ur country now so that you and your children wont suffer.

So which sector have u built or developed in Nigeria

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thebosstrevor:


you acting they are all saint over there

what about the nigerian scammers and drug dealers living all over europe, asia and america

If US is the basis of your argument, then use Canada as an example. Why are Nigerians striving to leave Nigeria for Canada? It's because of the standard of living. I personally wouldn't advice any human to move to US but if you're a Nigerian, then US is a better option. Get my point, US is terrible but Nigeria is just hellfire.

I have an uncle who has businesses in Nigeria.
He knows Nigeria has an economically viable market but he prefers to live abroad. Be realistic, you can't compare the standard of living US to Nigeria.

Basher8583:

NONNYG help me, i need job in dubai

like seriously

Beautyaddy:
Wow! what a read from this very funny thread.

I notice that the OP of this thread has been all over the place. It is so obvious that the OP of the this thread just from his multiple post one could sense bitterness, anger, jealousy and frustrations even though it has some valid points.

This argument can continue to go on and on till kingdom come it still will not change people's adamant minds of what they what to do about their lives or how they feel about the current very sad state of Nigeria.

Yes, i am bitter that black people are in the bottom of the food chain
i am bitter that other races do not respect us
i am bitter that we all go abroad instead of building our own country
i am bitter that people think going abroad is an achievement
i am bitter that foreigners with low education come here and they make most of the cash while nigerians with 2 or 3 degrees cant even make a pencil
i am bitter about the brain drain
i am bitter about our hypocrisy of destroying our home country while we obey rules and regulation abroad
i am bitter that we think we can only make it abroad
i am bitter that many die on the sea just to go to europe
i am bitter that many of us have become slaves in libya, europe and america just to survive

Nobody have respect the black man because he cant build his own land.

Babysho:



If US is the basis of your argument, then use Canada as an example. Why are Nigerians striving to leave Nigeria for Canada? It's because of the standard of living. I personally wouldn't advice any human to move to US but if you're a Nigerian, then US is a better option. Get my point, US is terrible but Nigeria is just hellfire.

I have an uncle who has businesses in Nigeria.
He knows Nigeria has an economically viable market but he prefers to live abroad. Be realistic, you can't compare the standard of living US to Nigeria.

i am not comparing but i believe we can create a good country if we all build our country

transfer of skills is important, if we want to be a developed country

Basher8583:

No need for insults. The message is clear stop being a slave to the Arabs (Muslims that you despise) and come back to your biafra land to develop it.
You will soon know the truth. Thank me later for the advice

oya dey carry my matter for head like gala & la casera, i love my job and i'm not planning of coming back anytime soon. Thanks for your concern

toboy:
Thank you so much thebosstrevor for starting this tread. As final a year student studying abroad who is contemplating between working overseas or coming back to Nigeria, I learned alot from people's comments.

I think a lot of reaction from people miss the point the OP raises which is "ONLY MAKE IT ABROAD". Basically, I believe people can make it both in Nigeria and Overseas. However, any migrant needs to weigh their skills, competences, and savings accordingly before migrating, otherwise, the individual might end up taking meager jobs overseas that are less in value that what they had in Nigeria.

On the other hand, the individuals who mentioned about the better quality of live overseas is definitely right. I have been to several countries in North America and Europe and can attest that the quality of life there is better than Nigeria. I dont want to start ranting about the many social problems in Nigeria but the fact that whenever you are in Nigeria and you fear for your security- from road accidents, armed robbery, kidnapping, religious crisis, police harrasement, Boko Haram, depending on where you live. These issues chase people away from Nigeria. And this could also be a reason why politicians send their kids and family away too.

Big Picture:
Opportunities exist in both in Nigeria and abroad but you must work hard to get it, be it abroad or in Nigeria

For the individuals that complains about blaming the West for Nigeria's problem. Certainly, the West is definitely a major part of the problem that a lot of African Nation are facing, including corruption. The Nigerian politicians who embezzle Nigerian funds use the West as safe havens where they buy properties, send their kids and families, and for tax evasions. If the West is resolved to help African nation fight corruption,then, they might as well stop the money laundering coming into their economy.

Just to be clear, anyone living and working abroad, legally, is paying income taxes. By this, we immigrants alongside citizens of those country generate tremendous amount of revenue and skills for their government. Their government use this resource to better their countries, support their industries, invest overseas, and subsidise some sector of their economy. This goes to show that as long as we keep migrating and investing overseas we keep contributing to building their economy for them. It's called putting yourself and your children to modern day slavery.

Thanks for your very good contribution. i love how objective you were

NONNYG:
oya dey carry my matter for head like gala & la casera, i love my job and i'm not planning of coming back anytime soon. Thanks for your concern

Him like u pass urself

thebosstrevor:


i am not comparing but i believe we can create a good country if we all build our country

transfer of skills is important, if we want to a developed country

Yes, I believe we can build our nation. Nigerians are happy people. Infact, the basic Nigerian doesn't ask for much from life. Just good environment for his business or at his workplace and peace of mind but as I speak to you, the current state of the nation can only fend for some 6%, the rest are on survival mode. That's why you'd hear a man working in a top notch bank in Nigeria say "I'd love to wash toilets and pack white men shiits in Australia" with a smile on his face as long as he'd get paid and have peace of mind. Passionate statements like that has even reduced due to the new nation spread virus of internet fraud.

chukwukahenry:
Dika ihe siri gbata kwuru na obodo anyi bu Naijiria, o dighi ihe na-aga aga etu o kwesiri iga Dika na obodo ndi ocha, ndi na-etolite etolite na-ahuzi ihapu ala nna ha gas obodo oyibo igba mbo ka ha mara ma o ga-adabanye

Mazi ndewo. Ikwuru nke oma.

toboy:
Thank you so much thebosstrevor for starting this tread. As final a year student studying abroad who is contemplating between working overseas or coming back to Nigeria, I learned alot from people's comments.

I think a lot of reaction from people miss the point the OP raises which is "ONLY MAKE IT ABROAD". Basically, I believe people can make it both in Nigeria and Overseas. However, any migrant needs to weigh their skills, competences, and savings accordingly before migrating, otherwise, the individual might end up taking meager jobs overseas that are less in value that what they had in Nigeria.

On the other hand, the individuals who mentioned about the better quality of live overseas is definitely right. I have been to several countries in North America and Europe and can attest that the quality of life there is better than Nigeria. I dont want to start ranting about the many social problems in Nigeria but the fact that whenever you are in Nigeria and you fear for your security- from road accidents, armed robbery, kidnapping, religious crisis, police harrasement, Boko Haram, depending on where you live. These issues chase people away from Nigeria. And this could also be a reason why politicians send their kids and family away too.

Big Picture:
Opportunities exist in both in Nigeria and abroad but you must work hard to get it, be it abroad or in Nigeria

For the individuals that complains about blaming the West for Nigeria's problem. Certainly, the West is definitely a major part of the problem that a lot of African Nation are facing, including corruption. The Nigerian politicians who embezzle Nigerian funds use the West as safe havens where they buy properties, send their kids and families, and for tax evasions. If the West is resolved to help African nation fight corruption,then, they might as well stop the money laundering coming into their economy.

Just to be clear, anyone living and working abroad, legally, is paying income taxes. By this, we immigrants alongside citizens of those country generate tremendous amount of revenue and skills for their government. Their government use this resource to better their countries, support their industries, invest overseas, and subsidise some sector of their economy. This goes to show that as long as we keep migrating and investing overseas we keep contributing to building their economy for them. It's called putting yourself and your children to modern day slavery.

Its not modern day slavery because you and your kids are benefiting from the system, you enjoy the social amenities, security, good education and health care. You are basically using what you paid for which is not the same in Nigeria.

If you don't migrate to those countries they will still fund those sectors with your contribution.

thebosstrevor:


Yes, i am bitter that black people are in the bottom of the food chain
i am bitter that other races do not respect us
i am bitter that we all go abroad instead of building our own country
i am bitter that people think going abroad is an achievement
i am bitter that foreigners with low education come here and they make most of the cash while nigerians with 2 or 3 degrees cant even make a pencil
i am bitter about the brain drain
i am bitter about our hypocrisy of destroying our home country while we obey rules and regulation abroad
i am bitter that we think we can only make it abroad
i am bitter that many die on the sea just to go to europe
i am bitter that many of us have become slaves in libya, europe and america just to survive

Nobody have respect the black man because he cant build his own land.

I still maintain what I stated earlier that all those bitterness of excuses you listed in your post till kingdom come it still will not change people's adamant minds of what they what to do about their lives or how they feel about the current very sad state of Nigeria.

justwise:


Its not modern day slavery because you and your kids are benefiting from the system, you enjoy the social amenities, security, good education and health care. You are basically using what you paid for which is not the same in Nigeria.

If you don't migrate to those countries they will still fund those sectors with your contribution.

It is very obvious toboy didn't know the meaning of that word "modern day slavery"

To not go far with giving out countless examples of it happening presently in Nigeria...is ASUU still on strike? Yes, that's a typical example of "modern day slavery."