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Innovations Into Islam by Nobody: 6:19pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
Evidence for kullu Bid'ah kufru* Before anything could be said about "is all bid'ah kufr or not" then that of hadeeth of 'irbaad must be understand We have different types of "ضلالة" in the Quran in different places, but each will attract meaning by considering the bonds (connections) ... Allaah سبحانه وتعالى says in suratul-faatihah "غير المغضوب عليهم ولا *الضالين* Here, its meaning is kufr, because we have in other places where Allaah سبحانه وتعالى called kuffaar... لقد كفر الذين قالوا إن الله ثالث ثلاثة... لقد كفر الذين قالوا إن الله هو المسيح ابن مريم... قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم: ﻭﺍﻟﺬﻱ ﻧﻔﺲ ﻣﺤﻤﺪ ﺑﻴﺪﻩ، ﻻﻳﺴﻤﻊ ﺑﻲ ﺃﺣﺪ ﻣﻦ ﻫﺬﻩ ﺍﻷﻣﺔ ﻳﻬﻮﺩﻱ ﻭﻻ ﻧﺼﺮﺍﻧﻲ، ﺛﻢ ﻳﻤﻮﺕ ﻭﻟﻢ ﻭﻟﻢ ﻳﺆﻣﻦ ﺑﺎﻟﺬﻱ ﺃﺭﺳﻠﺖ ﺑﻪ، ﺇﻻ ﻛﺎﻥ ﻣﻦ ﺃﺻﺤﺎﺏ ﺍﻟﻨﺎﺭ Meaning - The prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم said: "By the One in Whose hand is my soul, no one of this nation, a Jew or a christian, hears of me then dies without having believed in that with which I was sent, but he will be one of d people of the Hell fire." [Sahih Muslim, 153] Another one is where children of Ya'quub عليه الصلاة والسلام told him saying إن أبانا لفي ضلال مبين Here, it is mistake and can never be kufr. Because they (children) were thinking their father was making mistakes by his actions towards one of numerous children... Allaah says in suratu Taahaa لا يضل ربي ولا ينسى Here, it means mistake. Allaah's actions are beyond mistake... The beginning is قال علمها عند ربي في كتاب Allaah has knowledge of all what is hidden, then He can never make mistakes of His actions... And many other places... Each one is treated in relation with their قرائن If we then go back to the issue of ضلالة in that hadeeth, "كل بدعة ضلالة وكل ضلالة في النار " What does it mean here? We are not to give the meaning by ourselves or to suit our desires like people of desire do... We go back to and see other evidences... Allaah says أم لهم شركاء شرعوا لهم من الدين ما لم يأذن به الله *Bid'ah is tashree*'... |
Re: Innovations Into Islam by Amthol(m): 6:28pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
In a lay man terms pls as you can't assume all readers are of a particular level in the knowledge of the deen In my own opinion this article might be doing more harm than good. May Allah help us all and make our feet firm on Islamic Monoteism and the Sunnah of the prophet |
Re: Innovations Into Islam by Nobody: 6:30pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
Amthol: It's self explanatory with Quran and hadith... If you don't understand, ask questions.. No harm in that |
Re: Innovations Into Islam by true2god: 6:44pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
Abuheekmat:So Quran alone without the hadith is useless. Kwantinu! |
Re: Innovations Into Islam by Nobody: 6:47pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
true2god: You always prove me right that you are illogical.. .. Quran and hadith are WORDS OF ALLAH. Quran is revelation through angel jubril to rosul. During the revelation of Quran is hadith revelation too.. Just that hadith is like inspiration while Quran is revelation. Am sure you won't understand.. Dead brain.. That's what you are |
Re: Innovations Into Islam by true2god: 7:14pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
Abuheekmat:You are proudly ignorant. Who told you that the hadith is a word of Allah? So the word of allahh can be divided into strong, weak and fabricated hadith? So Allah inspired the hadith and the Quran is a revelation. Do you understand the meanings of inspiration and revelation? It seems you are either a kid or very ignorant of your religion. Go back and ask your sheikh before posting out of ignorance. |
Re: Innovations Into Islam by Nobody: 7:19pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
true2god: Laugh rolling on the floor.. Like I said, you are brain dead.. Always proving me right that you are brain dead. . Hadith and Quran has same grade of value. Both are word of Allah. Concerning strong, weak, fabricated hadith.. That has to do with chains of narrations.. .. After the death of rosul.. Liars, kafir, munafiq started attributing lies to rosul.. That he said this and that.. .. That's how and why checking the chains of narration becaame necessary. And that's exactly what bukhari and Muslim and other salafs did.. .. Sahih.. Strong chain of narration Hassan .. Good chain of narration Daif.. Weak chain of narration Maoduhu.. Fabricated chain of narration ... Prove me right once more .. Brain dead boy |
Re: Innovations Into Islam by Nobody: 7:20pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
true2god: I knew you would never the difference between revelation and inspiration.. I knew it.. And you claim you are logical. Laughing |
Re: Innovations Into Islam by true2god: 7:28pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
Abuheekmat:Nairaland Muslims will be amazed at your ignorance. How can a kafir be teaching your your own religion? How can you say the Quran and the hadith (a mere gossip and Chinese whisper) are on the same level? I think a more knowledgeable Muslim should correct you on your gross ignorance, if only you will be humble and learn. So the hadith collections of Imam Bukhari (which even the Shi'a Muslims rejected) is at per with the Quran? Please tell me more. |
Re: Innovations Into Islam by Nobody: 7:31pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
true2god: You never cease to amaze me with your logic.. Although i will give you a point. . Not only hadith shia rejected.. They rejected Quran too. . And they are not Muslims.. They are shia.. I doubt you would understand that.. .. As for you blaspheming Quran and Hadith. . Your forefathers have said worse.. .. It's nothing new.. . Thanks for proving to the world that you are truly brain dead.. |
Re: Innovations Into Islam by true2god: 7:33pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
Abuheekmat:OK, tell me how the collection of the hadith has the inspiration of Allah? And before you start, define the word INSPIRATION. |
Re: Innovations Into Islam by Nobody: 7:36pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
true2god: I have been lecturing you since.. You show no improvement.. Ain't got time to waste . Contact your dico and borrow real logic from anyone around |
Re: Innovations Into Islam by true2god: 7:50pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
Abuheekmat:Stop lying on the shia to justify your ignorance. Can you give me a single reference where the shia are alleged to condemn the Qur'an? What the shia condemned is sahih bukhari. |
Re: Innovations Into Islam by Nobody: 7:51pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
true2god: The fact that they assembled themselves in a group and named themselves Shia is enough |
Re: Innovations Into Islam by Amthol(m): 11:12pm On Dec 15, 2018 |
Abuheekmat:Torh Baarakallahufeeh 1 Like |
Re: Innovations Into Islam by true2god: 8:44am On Dec 16, 2018 |
Abuheekmat:And how about the sunnis that assembled and named themselves the Sunnis, does that now make them the true Muslims? Your logic is flawed. The shia rejected your so-called INSPIRED sahih bukhari. Who lied to you that any hadith is inspired? |
Re: Innovations Into Islam by Nobody: 11:51am On Dec 16, 2018 |
true2god: Those sunni. . Ask them who is their leader Who is their founder Who named them sunni Dead brain |
Re: Innovations Into Islam by true2god: 12:17pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
Abuheekmat:So in islam, no shia and no sunni? You live a life of delusion; go and prepare for your JAMB. It seems you are a teenager. |
Re: Innovations Into Islam by Nobody: 12:57pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
true2god: Laughing .. You just keep proving to me that you are brain dead... I already know that. . In islam.. Whatever you say, belief and do as actions to worship Allah must have dalil (proof ) from Quran and hadith. Ask shia where is it that they are allowed to form a group.. In Quran Which group did rosul formed.. Which group did sahabahs formed.. Simple as ABC . |
Re: Innovations Into Islam by Nobody: 1:50pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
#Ibn Taymiyyah: "The Scholars have said: The callers to bid'ah are not to have their testimony accepted or followed in prayer, nor is knowledge acquired from them, nor should they be given women in marriage. This is their recompense until they stop what they are doing." 28/520 |
Re: Innovations Into Islam by Nobody: 2:14pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
Shaikh Salih al-Fawzaan says: TEXT When you acknowledge that Allaah has created you for His worship, then know that worship is not regarded as such unless it is accompanied by tawheed, just as prayer is not regarded as prayer unless it is accompanied by purification (taharah). So when shirk enters into worship it corrupts it just like an impurity invalidates purification. EXPLANATION “When you acknowledge that Allaah has created you for His worship”: means you acknowledge the verse: “And I have not created the jinn and mankind except to worship Me (Alone).” [adh- Dhaariyaat (51):56] And you acknowledge that since you are from mankind this verse applies to you. And you acknowledge that Allaah did not create you for mere amusement, or for you to simply eat and drink, living in this world roaming around and joking, rather He created you for His worship. However He subjected these things in order to aid you in His worship since you are not able to live without these things and you will not be perform the worship of Allaah except by these things, he has subjected them for you so that you may worship Him, not so that you may become pleased by them and roam freely and joke and commit sins and evil, eating and drinking whatever you desire. This is the condition of the animals. As for mankind, then Allaah, the Mighty and Majestic, has created them for a great purpose and a supreme wisdom which is worship. “And I have not created the jinn and mankind except to worship Me (Alone). I seek not any provision from them (i.e. provision for themselves or for My creatures)” [adh- Dhaariyaat (51):56-57] Allaah did not create you so that you could earn or gather wealth for Him as Bani Aadam do and some of them take others as employees who earn profit for them. No, Allaah is not in need of any of this, and He is not in need of the ‘aalamin. And due to this He said, “I seek not any provision from them nor do I ask that they should feed Me” [adh- Dhaariyaat (51):57] Allaah, the Mighty and Most High, is the One who feeds while He is not fed. He is not in need of food and He, the Mighty and Most High, is not in need of anything and He has no need of your worship. If you were to disbelieve in Him, you would not have decreased anything from the dominion of Allaah, rather you are the one who is need of Him and you are the one who is in need of worship. So from His mercy is that He ordered you to worship Him for the purpose of your benefit, since when you worship Him, them He, the one free from all imperfections, will honour you with recompense and reward. So worship |
Re: Innovations Into Islam by Nobody: 2:15pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
is the reason for Allaah honouring you in the world and the Hereafter, so who is the one who benefits from worship? The one who benefits from worship is the worshipper himself, as for Allaah, the Mighty and Most High, then He is in no need of His creation. His saying “then know that worship is not regarded as such unless it is accompanied by tawheed, just as prayer is not regarded as prayer unless it is accompanied by purification (taharah).” When you recognise that Allaah created you for His worship, then you should know that worship does not become correct and pleasing to Allaah, the One free from all imperfections, unless it satisfies two conditions, if one of the conditions is missing then all of it becomes invalid. The first condition is that it should be sincerely for the sake of Allaah without any shirk in it, for if shirk were to enter into it, it would become invalid, similar to purification, which becomes invalid through. Thus if you worshipped Allaah and then committed shirk with Him, your worship would be invalid. The second condition is to follow the Messenger (may Allaah's peace and blessings be upon him) so any form of worship which the Prophet (may Allaah's peace and blessings be upon him) did not come with is false and rejected because it is an innovation and a lie. And due to this he (may Allaah's peace and blessings be upon him) said: “Whoever does a deed which has not been ordered by us, then it is rejected.” [Muslim (1718)] and in another narration: “Whoever introduces into this affair of ours that which is not from it will have it rejected.” [al-Bukhaari (2697) and Muslim (1718)] So it is necessary for worship to conform to what the Messenger (may Allaah's peace and blessings be upon him) came with and not to what the people deem good or in accordance with their intentions and desires. As long as the action is not proved by evidence from the deen then it is a bidah and it does not benefit the doer, rather it harms him because it is disobedience, even if he claims that by this action he is seeking nearness to Allaah, the Mighty and Majestic. So it is necessary for worship to conform to these two conditions: sincerity and following the Messenger (may Allaah's peace and blessings be upon him), such that worship becomes correct and beneficial for its doer. And if shirk enters it, it becomes invalid and it becomes innovated without any evidence for it, then it is also invalid. There is no benefit to worship without these two conditions because it would be something that Allaah has not legislated and Allaah only accepts what He has legislated in His book or upon the tongue of His Messenger (may Allaah's peace and blessings be upon him). So there is nobody from the creation who is obliged to be followed except the Messenger (may Allaah's peace and blessings be upon him). As for other than the Messenger (may Allaah's peace and blessings be upon him) then he is followed and obeyed when he follows the Messenger (may Allaah's peace and blessings be upon him). As for when he opposes the Messenger (may Allaah's peace and blessings be upon him), then there is no obedience. Allaah, the Most High says: |
Re: Innovations Into Islam by Nobody: 2:16pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
“Obey Allaah and obey the Messenger, and those of you who are in authority.” [an- Nisaa (4):59] Those who are in authority are the rulers and the scholars, so when they obey Allaah, it becomes obligatory to obey and follow them. As for when they oppose the command of Allaah then it is not permissible to follow or to obey them. This is because there is no one from the creation who is to be obeyed independently (blindly) except the Messenger (may Allaah's peace and blessings be upon him). As for other than him then such an individual is obeyed and followed only when he obeys and follows the Messenger (may Allaah's peace and blessings be upon him) and this is the correct way to worship. TEXT So when you recognise that if shirk enters into worship, it corrupts it, negates all the actions and the one who does it is eternally in the Hell-Fire, then you will realise the most important matter obligatory upon you: recognition of this fact, in order that Allaah may save you from the abyss of committing shirk with Him, about which He, the Most High said, “Verily, Allaah forgives not that partners should be set up with him in worship, but He forgives except that (anything else) to whom He pleases.” [an-Nisaa (4):116] And this knowledge comprises of four principles which Allaah, the Most High, has mentioned in His Book. EXPLANATION Which means that as long as you have understood tawheed, which is to single out Allaah alone for worship then it is obligatory on you to recognise shirk, because the one who does not know something falls into it. So it is necessary for you to know the types of shirk in order for you to avoid them, since Allaah has warned us against shirk and said, “Verily, Allaah forgives not that partners should be set up with him in worship, but He forgives except that (anything else) to whom He pleases.” [an-Nisaa (4):48] So the danger of shirk is that it prohibits entrance into Paradise. “Verily, whosoever sets up partners in worship with Allaah, then Allaah has forbidden Paradise for him.” [al-Maaidah (5):72] And it prevents an individual from being forgiven by Allaah, “Verily, Allaah forgives not that partners should be set up with him in worship.” [an- Nisaa (4):48] Therefore it is a great danger which is obligatory for you to have knowledge of before any other danger, since shirk misguides the understanding and intellect. In order that we may know about shirk from the Qur’aan and Sunnah, Allaah has not warned us about something except that He has clarified it and He has not commanded us to do something |
Re: Innovations Into Islam by Nobody: 2:16pm On Dec 16, 2018 |
except that He has clarified it to the people. So He would not prohibit shirk and leave it general, rather He clarified it in the Qur’aan and the Messenger clarified it in his Sunnah. So when we wish to know what shirk is, we must return to the Book and the Sunnah and we do not refer to the speech of so and so. And this will be mentioned later. |
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