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Re: How Attending Xperience13 Turned Me From An Atheist To A Believer by Anas09: 3:41pm On Dec 16, 2018
HardMirror:
anas has the holy spirit. Sounds more like unclean spirit like a product from an anas anus
Rotten dead corpse.
Re: How Attending Xperience13 Turned Me From An Atheist To A Believer by Anas09: 3:47pm On Dec 16, 2018
HardMirror:
anas has the holy spirit. Sounds more like unclean spirit like a product from an anas anus
Jealousy go kill you. All the days you spent pretending to be a Christian, you never experienced Him, you can't stand others who have. Poor dead kid.

I know you are very elated now that i responded to you. I practically had to hold up my nose from the stench oozing out of you.

R.I.P again.
Re: How Attending Xperience13 Turned Me From An Atheist To A Believer by ikorodureporta: 3:52pm On Dec 16, 2018
Me I no fit read all the things here, but, if really u changed, why did you create a new account??
Nonsense! Na you dem send to deceive people enter that moloch-worshipping cult..

Re: How Attending Xperience13 Turned Me From An Atheist To A Believer by HardMirror(m): 4:27pm On Dec 16, 2018
Anas09:

Jealousy go kill you. All the days you spent pretending to be a Christian, you never experienced Him, you can't stand others who have. Poor dead kid.

I know you are very elated now that i responded to you. I practically had to hold up my nose from the stench oozing out of you.

R.I.P again.

hehehehe i like this babe. grin how far nau. Make i enter ur parole
Re: How Attending Xperience13 Turned Me From An Atheist To A Believer by HardMirror(m): 4:28pm On Dec 16, 2018
Anas09:

Rotten dead corpse.
my dear we are all corpses in waiting. I go die, u go die. We go rot, we go smell.
Re: How Attending Xperience13 Turned Me From An Atheist To A Believer by toyosi20188(m): 4:58pm On Dec 16, 2018
hahn:


I am happy for you. The lord is indeed great.

So now can you please share a picture of god at the event?
I'd lile to remind you that YHWH is invisible and only those in Heaven can see Him.
Re: How Attending Xperience13 Turned Me From An Atheist To A Believer by LordReed(m): 5:03pm On Dec 16, 2018
toyosi20188:
I'd lile to remind you that YHWH is invisible and only those in Heaven can see Him.

Yes that's why he came down to eat goat meat pepper soup with Abraham and Sarah, all those invisible meals were getting boring. LMFAO!

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Re: How Attending Xperience13 Turned Me From An Atheist To A Believer by 1Sharon(f): 5:22pm On Dec 16, 2018
Silly atheists

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Re: How Attending Xperience13 Turned Me From An Atheist To A Believer by 1Sharon(f): 5:36pm On Dec 16, 2018
GXchange:


I'm an empathic person. I wouldn't consider myself emotional. Before Xperience, I had never cried while singing any song. I cried as I result of the profundity of the experience I had while worshiping God. Like I tried my best to illustrate I had issues with atheism beforehand, the experience I had was the final straw and it confirmed few of the things I was agnostic about.

My new found belief has made me perceive Christianity in a different light. As with every enterprise that involves human input and supervision, of course its bound to have its errors and shortcomings. But yet there are aspects of Christianity that reveal deep truths about the actual nature of our reality, truths that atheism, by its nature, would never unravel.


You were not a real atheist to begin with. A proper atheist will never leave atheism for Christianity.

Repent. The Fsm loves you and is ever ready to embrace you. All other gods are impastas.

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Re: How Attending Xperience13 Turned Me From An Atheist To A Believer by LordReed(m): 6:07pm On Dec 16, 2018
1Sharon:


You were not a real atheist to begin with. A proper atheist will never leave atheism for Christianity.

Repent. The Fsm loves you and is ever ready to embrace you. All other gods are impastas.

Thus saith the Holy Recipe, you macaroni and cheese eaters shall stew in the everlasting tomato sauce. Praise be the holy noodles!

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Re: How Attending Xperience13 Turned Me From An Atheist To A Believer by toyosi20188(m): 6:21pm On Dec 16, 2018
LordReed:


Thus saith the Holy Recipe, you macaroni and cheese eaters shall stew in the everlasting tomato sauce. Praise be the holy noodles!
You think it's funny? I pray you don't regret this statement on the final day.Peace.
Re: How Attending Xperience13 Turned Me From An Atheist To A Believer by hahn(m): 6:33pm On Dec 16, 2018
toyosi20188:
I'd lile to remind you that YHWH is invisible and only those in Heaven can see Him.

How many people did you contact in heaven that verified this?

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Re: How Attending Xperience13 Turned Me From An Atheist To A Believer by toyosi20188(m): 6:38pm On Dec 16, 2018
hahn:


How many people did you contact in heaven that verified this?
LOL. I don't need to contact anybody before I know that. His Word is enough to convince me
Re: How Attending Xperience13 Turned Me From An Atheist To A Believer by LordReed(m): 6:48pm On Dec 16, 2018
toyosi20188:
You think it's funny? I pray you don't regret this statement on the final day.Peace.

Yes it is funny, very funny. I will have nothing to regret about it.
Re: How Attending Xperience13 Turned Me From An Atheist To A Believer by 1Sharon(f): 8:43pm On Dec 16, 2018
toyosi20188:
You think it's funny? I pray you don't regret this statement on the final day.Peace.

He boiled for ur sins

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Re: How Attending Xperience13 Turned Me From An Atheist To A Believer by LordReed(m): 7:19am On Dec 17, 2018
1Sharon:


He boiled for ur sins

Was stewed in tomato sauce for 3days. Praise the holy noodles.

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Re: How Attending Xperience13 Turned Me From An Atheist To A Believer by Ihedinobi3: 8:44am On Dec 17, 2018
LordReed:


You simple want to call fairy tales lies because it fits your narrative. People tell all sorts of fairytales everyday but you don't hear people call them lies. They are stories very simply. But no Ihedinobi wants to call them lies so that you can nail me to the wall. Your attempt is clear and I already said that is how you operate. We know that's how you operate. LMFAO!
Are fairy tales true?

Nail you to what wall? What does that even mean?

Is this how you deal with your conscience when it starts coming awake again?
Re: How Attending Xperience13 Turned Me From An Atheist To A Believer by toyosi20188(m): 8:52am On Dec 17, 2018
Ihedinobi3:

Are fairy tales true?

Nail you to what wall? What does that even mean?

Is this how you deal with your conscience when it starts coming awake again?
Yeah.I don' know what came over him, but whatever it is, it is set on destroying him.
Re: How Attending Xperience13 Turned Me From An Atheist To A Believer by LordReed(m): 10:06am On Dec 17, 2018
Ihedinobi3:

Are fairy tales true?

Nail you to what wall? What does that even mean?

Is this how you deal with your conscience when it starts coming awake again?

LMFAO! I have said my piece man. You will continue to do as you do, lie, twist and be infinitely pedantic just to fit stuff into your narrative. Keep it going.
Re: How Attending Xperience13 Turned Me From An Atheist To A Believer by LordReed(m): 10:09am On Dec 17, 2018
toyosi20188:
Yeah.I don' know what came over him, but whatever it is, it is set on destroying him.

LMFAO! Oh my days. Destruction indeed. I'm no longer scared by your fairytales of the wrath of an imaginary being(s). Rather it tickles me to laughter.

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Re: How Attending Xperience13 Turned Me From An Atheist To A Believer by hahn(m): 10:34am On Dec 17, 2018
toyosi20188:
LOL. I don't need to contact anybody before I know that. His Word is enough to convince me

Lol. I might as well believe Harry Potter is real then cheesy
Re: How Attending Xperience13 Turned Me From An Atheist To A Believer by BluntBoy(m): 11:12am On Dec 17, 2018
GXchange:
I had been a christian all my life until I became an atheist 4 years ago. I started gravitating towards atheism when I began to examine the bible objectively, nesting my examination in empirical facts about the world established from reliable scientific fields. I realized that evidence from cosmology, anthropology, history, physics and evolutionary biology, were at odds with the claims of the bible. I also identified the contradictions and inconsistencies within the bible. I realized that there was no way that the claims of the bible could be true given its conspicuous errors and unscientific assertions. Another turning point in my transformation from a christian to an atheist came when I actually studied the origins of Christianity. It became clear to me from my research that a lot of what I thought belonged exclusively to Christianity was actually gotten from other sources. The creation story in the bible was derived from older middle-eastern texts that preceded Judaism, same with flood story. I realized that a significant chunk of new testament theology was derived from the pagan culture surrounding the legalization of Christianity during Constantine's era. There was also the shocking fact that what we currently consider de-facto Christian doctrine was contrived by men who acted under the instruction of a very occultic roman empire.
Books that were deemed okay by those control were incorporated into the christian canon while those that weren't deemed okay were de-canonized. What's wasn't clear to me was the criteria for deeming a book qualified to be incorporated in the canon. Going by the information contained in the books that weren't included in the canon it became apparent that this process was done to occlude important knowledge and to condition Christians to see the world in a particular way.

I also studied the progression of Christianity throughout history and I noticed how pernicious it had been and how it's doctrines had been used to justify wars and other atrocities committed against human beings. Most notably the crusades, the inquisitions, slavery and racial subjugation as a derivative. I felt that there was no way that a religion which had caused the deaths of millions of people could be inspired by the God of creation.

The final nail in the coffin for me was when I observed the character of the God in the old testament. He not only was misogynistic, sexiest and racist but he was also blood thirsty, heartless, and possessed the emotional strength of an ordinary human; he was bad-tempered, capricious and murderously splenetic. I felt that this being whatever it was was just concocted by men as it expressed traits common to man. I afterwards dumped Christianity and became an atheist.

At first, seeing the world trough the lens of atheism felt liberating. I felt a certain freedom I had never felt before. I could now do things that were proscribed by Christianity. Gradually I felt my conscience grow soft and my moral compass become defective. This didn't mean that I became a bad person, it was just that I didn't feel under any obligation to something higher than myself( you can call this God or the divine) to live a life you'd consider moral. Of course this is no argument against atheism. Christians commit immoral acts all the time and so do atheists. But in my case I felt my previous religious belief gave me more of a reason to live a moral life than atheism did. I know empathy plays a role in keeping humans from committing harm against other people. But as history and the psychological literature on the subject has shown, empathy can easily be suppressed by environmental factors, and humans possess different levels of empathy. The reason my previous religious belief provided as to why living a moral life was essential wasn't rooted in the escape of hell and the attainment of a heaven after death. No. Even as a christian my beliefs were more sophisticated than the fear and reward dynamic of hell and heaven. As a christian the reason I felt living a moral life was essential was because of how that impacted my spiritual experience. The more moral I was, the more profound my spiritual experiences.

On the question of meaning of life which I have always regarded as a every serious and important question, atheism seemed to offer mostly hedonistic or pessimistic answers. Replies from most atheists to this question was usually something like: "The point of life is to be happy and do what you enjoy" or that life was has no objective meaning. We are all just biological products of evolution and one day we will die and that's that. We come from nothing and we will go to nothing." Now I'm not saying that if an answer to the question of the meaning of life is hedonistic or pessimistic then the answer is false. But in my opinion these replies seemed so thoughtless and empty. The idea that happiness and pleasure were the aims to which humans should pursue revealed the selfishness and moral poverty that inspired the hedonistic perspective. The idea that everything is meaningless and we are just bags of flesh that will die and decay revealed the deep antihumanism and crippling nihilism that colored the pessimistic perspective.

There was another faction of atheists that referred to themselves as secular humanists. Although their answer to the question of the meaning of life was nested in a hedonistic and pessimistic world view, it was tempered with the responsibility of making the world a better place and helping humans in need while still being in it. Secular humanism was very attractive to me because I'm a very empathic person, but the more I immersed myself this ideology I soon realized that its primary tenet was also the massage that Christianity preached. Love.

I also regarded secular humanism as not being a very logically consistent perspective to have. If striving for happiness or pleasure along with shouldering the responsibility of helping your fellow humans is what life is about, outside the purview of the existence of the divine, then a serious contradiction arises when the things that make one happy don't make the lives of humans better. Take for instance a natural sexual sadist. Sexually sadistic individuals derive pleasure and happiness from harming others. How does a sexual sadist who is a secular humanist reconcile these two contradicting motivations? The mistake of secular humanists is that they erroneously assume that everyone is empathic and hence should want to care for other humans. But this isn't the case.
Conversely there have been lots of unemphatic and sadistic people who when the call to humanism was nested in a moral obligation to the divine, they selflessly cared for other humans and forwent their immoral impulses.

I attended xperience13 because my partner asked me to. She pleaded that I attend with her and out of love and respect for her wishes I did. This wasn't the only reason however. I felt a certain nostalgia about attending the event as I used to before I became an atheist and since lots of talented artists were billed to perform, I attended.
I wasn't especially thrilled with the occasion, especially with the intermittent prayers for Nigeria that were made under the foolish assumption that prayer was the solution to Nigeria's problems, until Nathaniel Bassey performed. His performance was the straw that broke the camel's back.

As an atheist, despite the condescending conviction that my beliefs were fact-proof, I always felt that something was missing. I felt that I wasn't in alignment with a crucial segment of my life. An important portion of the puzzle of my life always seemed to be absent. I never knew what it was but I always felt that it wasn't present. It's interesting to note that when I was a christian I never felt this way. Atheism mired evolutionists and anthropologists have opined that we humans have a natural desire to ascribe reverence to something outside of ourselves. Sort of like a gene that predisposes us to being religious. I don't disagree with this. What I disagree with it is the extrapolation derived from this observation along with the purported origin for it. Unlike the evolutionists I don't think we evolved this traits as a result of random processes of natural selection. I also don't think that the fact that this is a product of natural selection means that the existence of God or the divine isn't an objective reality.

What if it is an objective reality? What if the need humans have to ascribe their creation and being and the creation of the natural world to a divine creator is proof that the divine exists?
Our emotional systems seen very attuned to profound states of meaning. And it seems like the most profound states usually involve either actions and experiences motivated my love or moments of religious worship. When Nathaniel Bassey raised those worship songs and I sang along, I experienced an emotional state that I hadn't experienced before. I cried like a child. In that unique moment of worship, I felt true meaning. I felt all my flesh-like lusts and impulses crumble in submission to something inside me that felt purer and more real than my physical body. I felt I was in the presence of a divine presence greater than myself and I felt my experience was real and true.

It's only a very arrogant person that would say that he understands everything about the nature of reality. Only a very close-minded person would reject the existence of the metaphysical or the divine given the mountain of documentations on the subject throughout history. Now you may say that these documentations are myths. But who is to say that myths aren't dramatization of experienced truths?

Maybe the God of the Bible didn't create the world and maybe Jesus isn't the direct son of God. I don't know the answers to these questions. But what I'm am certain of is that lots of truths are incorporated within Christianity and through participating in worship and in implementing core christian principles, these truths can be revealed.

Atheists are fond of throwing away the baby with the bath water. They, just like I did, observe errors in the bible and then discount everything else about Christianity on the basis of these errors. I think the materialism that atheism is nested in is insufficient to unravel deep truths about life and the true nature of our world.

Praise be to God.

Now, you have to ask for the Holy Spirit to direct you as from now on.

Songs, whether religious or secular, can move people in ways they wouldn't be able to imagine.

But all I can say here is that you were never an atheist. Instead you only found yourself in the place between religiosity and spirituality. The stage where you begin to ask a lot of questions.

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Re: How Attending Xperience13 Turned Me From An Atheist To A Believer by Ihedinobi3: 11:35am On Dec 18, 2018
LordReed:


LMFAO! I have said my piece man. You will continue to do as you do, lie, twist and be infinitely pedantic just to fit stuff into your narrative. Keep it going.
Sure you have. Claiming things and making accusations that you are never able to prove as always.
Re: How Attending Xperience13 Turned Me From An Atheist To A Believer by LordReed(m): 12:07pm On Dec 18, 2018
Ihedinobi3:

Sure you have. Claiming things and making accusations that you are never able to prove as always.

LMFAO! You clearly want to twist my saying your god narrative is a fairytale to I said its a lie, what further proof is required? My guy keep going. LoL
Re: How Attending Xperience13 Turned Me From An Atheist To A Believer by toyosi20188(m): 12:20pm On Dec 18, 2018
LordReed:


LMFAO! You clearly want to twist my saying your god narrative is a fairytale to I said its a lie, what further proof is required? My guy keep going. LoL
I hope your laugh lasts long. The devil has given you free visa to his palace.
Re: How Attending Xperience13 Turned Me From An Atheist To A Believer by LordReed(m): 12:21pm On Dec 18, 2018
toyosi20188:
I hope your laugh lasts long. The devil has given you free visa to his palace.

Like god gave him to heaven right? LMFAO!
Re: How Attending Xperience13 Turned Me From An Atheist To A Believer by Judybash93(m): 1:23am On Nov 23, 2020
GXchange:


I'm an empathic person. I wouldn't consider myself emotional. Before Xperience, I had never cried while singing any song. I cried as I result of the profundity of the experience I had while worshiping God. Like I tried my best to illustrate I had issues with atheism beforehand, the experience I had was the final straw and it confirmed few of the things I was agnostic about.

My new found belief has made me perceive Christianity in a different light. As with every enterprise that involves human input and supervision, of course its bound to have its errors and shortcomings. But yet there are aspects of Christianity that reveal deep truths about the actual nature of our reality, truths that atheism, by its nature, would never unravel.


I felt the same thing at Sade Adu's concert

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