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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 9:43pm On Dec 20, 2018
odizeey:
I don't think talent and physical attributes are the same bro.

No need to rehash this argument; talent usage is nuanced. There are many links advocating my position. The balanced way to argue your point will be to bring links of others arguing against my position.

And no, posts from Nlders who largely give democratic opinions will not count.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 9:48pm On Dec 20, 2018
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by odizeey(m): 9:49pm On Dec 20, 2018
Eruditor:


No need to rehash this argument; talent usage is nuanced. There are many links advocating my position. The balanced way to argue your point will be to bring links of others arguing against my position.

And no, posts from Nlders who largely give democratic opinions will not count.
I don't need to show you link that the sun rises in the morning and sets in the evening. Do you need link to proof that you have a private part?
Bros physical attribute and advantage no be talent.
Will you say someone is a talented tall man?
Even mc oluomo and his boys go laugh you.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 9:50pm On Dec 20, 2018
raumdeuter:


Man Utd makes significantly more money than Fulham. Man Utd for example might make 1billion spend 700M, Fulham total income might be 200M

So explain how they will manage
man united running costs is significantly more than that of fulham.by the way u cant just tell me man utd make 1 billion,and spend 700m and say fulham made 200m that is just you ascribing figures with bias.until we have the actual book records or something closely related to club management you cant just wake up and magically ascribe amount made by any club.Further responses without meeting my conditions will be unreplied.Thanks for your cooperation in advance.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 9:51pm On Dec 20, 2018
simonjassy:

tv broadcast rights,fan club membership,gate fees.

Sorry, they don't make enough revenue from this besides, I am not even sure you understand what netspend is in relation to the way your comrades are using it against Pep.

What they mean is, if you subtract how much City made from selling players to how much they spent on buying players you can have the netspend of the club.

My counterargument is, if you sell Yaya and buy say Fred, your netspend will be 50M. But if you sell Matic and buy Bakayoko your NetSpend will be 5M or so or even 0M.

Now anyone who turns around to say Pep is a cheque book manager because his NetSpend is 50M does not have any sense because Yaya had zero value at the time of his sale compared to a Matic who still did and so on.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 9:56pm On Dec 20, 2018
odizeey:
I don't need to show you link that the sun rises in the morning and sets in the evening. Do you need link to proof that you have a private part?
Bros physical attribute and advantage no be talent.
Will you say someone is a talented tall man?
Even mc oluomo and his boys go laugh you.

The guy is just stupid grin

How can some compare quickness to height?

Can you train to be taller? cheesy

I guess you could say he is talentedly foolish

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 9:59pm On Dec 20, 2018
odizeey:
I don't need to show you link that the sun rises in the morning and sets in the evening. Do you need link to proof that you have a private part?
Bros physical attribute and advantage no be talent.
Will you say someone is a talented tall man?
Even mc oluomo and his boys go laugh you.

Like I said, you are not saying anything new. Mostly regurgitating the same feeble arguments I had to suffer through when this argument was a thing.

During that time, I provided links of people differentiating between categories of talent. You had physical talents, technical talents, and psychological talents etc. On this thread, many people refer to Hazard as someone who balks during the big moments. They are indirectly saying he is psychologically talentless. Drogba seemed to perform best in the finals compared to a Henry for instance. Some argued too that Psychologically Drogba had more talent than Henry yet Technically, he did not.

I actually quoted a link here with someone miles away saying the same thing. And if you do your research, you will find more than 5 people saying same. On the other hand, you will not find one person arguing against them except here.

Should I then disregard more learned people and pander to the whims and caprices of people who know fuckall about the subject matter? I beg not.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by odizeey(m): 10:00pm On Dec 20, 2018
nihilistjnr:


The guy is just stupid grin

How can some compare quickness to height?

Can you train to be taller? cheesy

I guess you could say he is talentedly foolish
baba I weak o.
That man is cracking my ribs.
This 'entitled to your opinion' talk is causing problem world wide.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 10:02pm On Dec 20, 2018
talentedly signing in on 6400 o jare
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by odizeey(m): 10:02pm On Dec 20, 2018
Eruditor:


Like I said, you are not saying anything new. Mostly regurgitating the same feeble arguments I had to suffer through when this argument was a thing.

During that time, I provided links of people differentiating between categories of talent. You had physical talents, technical talents, and psychological talents etc. On this thread, many people refer to Hazard as someone who balks during the big moments. They are indirectly saying he is psychologically talentless. Drogba seemed to perform best in the finals compared to a Henry for instance. Some argued too that Psychologically Drogba had more talent than Henry yet Technically, he did not.

I actually quoted a link here with someone miles away saying the same thing. And if you do your research, you will find more than 5 people saying same. On the other hand, you will not find one person arguing against them except here.

Should I then disregard more learned people and pander to the whims and caprices of people who know fuckall about the subject matter? I beg not.
Even oyinbo that told us we have 9 planets have said its now 8.
Don't be too proud to correct errors
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 10:04pm On Dec 20, 2018
6400 cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 10:08pm On Dec 20, 2018
nihilistjnr:


The guy is just stupid grin

How can some compare quickness to height?

Can you train to be taller? cheesy

I guess you could say he is talentedly foolish

Actually, the irresponsibly stupid person is the one who is disregarding opinions of people who independently came to the conclusion I came to when he has no plausible rebuttal save his own over-inflated impression about his own opinion.

Some might even say you have been scarred with stupidity. But jury might still be out on that. IamJ will know better.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 10:09pm On Dec 20, 2018
odizeey:
Even oyinbo that told us we have 9 planets have said its now 8.
Don't be too proud to correct errors

I should be saying that to you people. I mean, what you think is right because dummies re-echo it, does not mean it is right. Abi?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by odizeey(m): 10:12pm On Dec 20, 2018
Eruditor:


I should be saying that to you people. I mean, what you think is right because dummies re-echo it, does not mean it is right. Abi?
bros I no dey follow popular opinion. Even if Isaac newton tells me that height is a talent I go vex for am. Only vex
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 10:14pm On Dec 20, 2018
odizeey:
bros I no dey follow popular opinion. Even if Isaac newton tells me that height is a talent I go vex for am. Only vex

Okay. Duly noted.

I am not quoting myself though. So you can find that link I quoted and insult the poster.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 10:23pm On Dec 20, 2018
Eruditor:


Sorry, they don't make enough revenue from this besides, I am not even sure you understand what netspend is in relation to the way your comrades are using it against Pep.

What they mean is, if you subtract how much City made from selling players to how much they spent on buying players you can have the netspend of the club.

My counterargument is, if you sell Yaya and buy say Fred, your netspend will be 50M. But if you sell Matic and buy Bakayoko your NetSpend will be 5M or so or even 0M.

Now anyone who turns around to
If pep after selling players of lesser values still had a much more greater netspend(i am talking of 100m+)(airmark's the source) than his chelsea counterpart,it only means city's transfer budget is greater than that of chelsea or chelsea just signed the cheapest option that they could manage.I favor the former.and we all know pep didnt sell yaya n co to raise funds for "transfer budget".
but u are right on the 50m+ analogy.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 10:28pm On Dec 20, 2018
Eruditor:


Actually, the irresponsibly stupid person is the one who is disregarding opinions of people who independently came to the conclusion I came to when he has no plausible rebuttal save his own over-inflated impression about his own opinion.

Some might even say you have been scarred with stupidity. But jury might still be out on that. IamJ will know better.

So because you found people on the internet who are just as stupid as you, you think that proves that you are right? cheesy


Bros you're even more talented than I thought grin


Maybe you thought you were the only e-diot with access to internet.

newsflash: you are not alone

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by DExponential(m): 10:28pm On Dec 20, 2018
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 10:28pm On Dec 20, 2018
nihilistjnr:


The guy is just stupid grin

How can some compare quickness to height?

Can you train to be taller? cheesy

I guess you could say he is talentedly foolish
don't mind the dude,by the way short,sturdy people have a lower centre of gravity.hence they are naturally better at running and dribbling.I guess that's why people say messi is talented.such a joke.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 10:31pm On Dec 20, 2018
simonjassy:

don't mind the dude,by the way short,sturdy people have a lower centre of gravity.hence they are naturally better at running and dribbling.I guess that's why people say messi is talented.such a joke.

Meanwhile average 100m sprinter is around 6ft tall.

If physical attributes are talent, then elruditor's potbelly is also a talent.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 10:34pm On Dec 20, 2018
nihilistjnr:


Meanwhile average 100m sprinter is around 6ft tall.

If physical attributes are talent, then elruditor's potbelly is also a talent.
lol even if u are tall a short person can always work on his vertical jump.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by obainojazz(m): 10:39pm On Dec 20, 2018
I'm 6ft plus, thank God I'm talented cool

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Obere4u: 10:43pm On Dec 20, 2018
This place always on red
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 10:57pm On Dec 20, 2018
nihilistjnr:


So because you found people on the internet who are just as stupid as you, you think that proves that you are right? cheesy


Bros you're even more talented than I thought grin


Maybe you thought you were the only e-diot with access to internet.

newsflash: you are not alone

Okay. There are even more irresponsibly stupid people on here cheering you on.

You are in good company.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 10:59pm On Dec 20, 2018
simonjassy:

don't mind the dude,by the way short,sturdy people have a lower centre of gravity.hence they are naturally better at running and dribbling.I guess that's why people say messi is talented.such a joke.

@nihilistjnr

People in your camp.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 11:01pm On Dec 20, 2018
nihilistjnr:


Meanwhile average 100m sprinter is around 6ft tall.

If physical attributes are talent, then elruditor's potbelly is also a talent.

Depending on the sport having a pot belly could be a talent.

Yokozunas will agree.

If anybody cares to know, I am fit. Some will even say I look like Liam Hemsworth.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by thorrvik55(m): 11:04pm On Dec 20, 2018
Eruditor:


Lol. I am not going to say anything new. I made my points with links while back when this argument erupted.

Low center of gravity is implicitly related to speed and pace. Messi, Hazard, Kante are few examples. That is one talent to their repertoire that other talented players like Kanu and Sergio Busquets lack.

So because for e.g Peter Crouch has a HEIGHT (not tallness or shortness) talent advantage does not mean he is more talented than Messi. If we were to list out all Messi's talents, I surmise he would have more talent than every other player in world football.

For instance, Messi's technique in shooting, balance, decision-making, foresight, body movement, dribbling, freekick taking, scoring, tenacity, acceleration etc etc are talents he has that Crouch doesn't.

Dats exactly wot im saying, short players like messi and hazard have low centre of gravity and going by ur analysis dat shortness can be referred to as a talent...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by PDPGuy: 11:05pm On Dec 20, 2018
nihilistjnr:
Probably the scariest thing I've read his year.

Cathy don't go to the supermarket today. Skynet is already here

Really scary.

Big brother is truly with us. No wonder Zuckerberg covers his laptop's camera whenever he is using it.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 11:08pm On Dec 20, 2018
Eruditor:


[s]Did Chelsea sell more players (numerically) than City? Did Chelsea purchase as many players as city per whatever currency? You are the one who told your missus to yell "Raumdeuter" during you people's sessions if she wanted you to stroke harder. It is you we should be worried about WRT arse kissing.



https://jasonlauritsen.com/2011/08/what-is-talent/

Facts are not subject to voting. I said height is a talent and nothing since then has changed my opinion on that. Thank you.

While we are at it, is Kyrchowiak still the best DM in the world?[/s]

If you like go and quote Nelson Mandela. You can call tallness an advantage. It is of no use if the player has no skill.

The article you directed me to, also added that many wouldn't agree with the author. Is the author even an English? He failed by not defining the word.

Good to say, that united guy that deactivated because of his big nose, has a nassal talent. cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 11:08pm On Dec 20, 2018
nihilistjnr:


The power is already in the wrong hands - Google is not a non-profit organisation

Hehehe. That's funny. But jokes aside, these guys are still the good guys. Somehow, by force or by omission, the guys still conform to the rule of law.

Can you imagine what could happen if backdoor access to such data found its way into the hands of the Russians, Chinese, ISIS or Donald Trump grin?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by thorrvik55(m): 11:14pm On Dec 20, 2018
Eruditor:


Depending on the sport having a pot belly could be a talent.

Yokozunas will agree.

If anybody cares to know, I am fit. Some will even say I look like Liam Hemsworth.

Since having a pot belly could be considered a talent in some sports, being short can also be considered as a talent in some sports and not having a pot belly could be considered a talent in some sports too...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Sniper4real(m): 11:15pm On Dec 20, 2018
Hmm

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