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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:58am On Oct 22, 2018 |
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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 8:43pm On Dec 18, 2018 |
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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 9:30pm On Dec 18, 2018 |
OLAADEGBU:Kumuyi is your Pastor, so i'll advise you to go back to him and ask him "how can one witness to a Jehovah's witness?" For your information, Kumuyi has all our books with him,he studied much about us and so he is in the best position to answer your question. But let me just give you a hint about that your crooked lying leader, if you want to uncover all his deceit just go and take all his publications of late 80s and early 90s,you'll discover that Kumuyi used the PHOTOCOPIES of drawings in our books to reprint his own books,changed all the wordings to his own teachings and stupidly sold it out to your daddies and mummies back then,that's how i got to understand that Kumuyi is a fool. Because even a Muslim no matter how stupid won't do such! Before you start defending your greedy daddy GO,please go and get those publications and i'll show you our books of late 70s that your daddy GO stole and PHOTOCOPIED! 2 Likes |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:40pm On Dec 18, 2018 |
TATIME: Are these the lies you use in comforting yourself? |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 10:46pm On Dec 18, 2018 |
OLAADEGBU:I know it's difficult to believe but you just do what i said to debunk my words. Kumuyi is a thief,liar and greedy copycat. It's you and other brainwashed WICKED individuals that's blinded by his deceit! Why do i say "wicked" because he so much brainwashed all of you to the extent that you believe you're Christians, whereas you're all full of bitterness whenever you see *women wearing jewelries and makeovers *women with beautiful hairdos and fashion *men who drinks moderately and responsibly Kumuyi has NOTHING to offer than brainwashing all of you and making you enemies to whoever is not his Church member. Tell me,can you preach one on one like Jehovah's witnesses who speaks freely and friendly with everyone? Can you tactfully approach people who's lifestyle contradicts Kumuyi's ideas? It's just impossible, that's why you only stand up in a bus and start talking to the air to avoid confrontations! Just go and get Kumuyi's publications of late 80s and early 90s before you start spewing nonsense about a DISFELLOWSHIPED member of Jehovah's Witnesses. For your information, Kumuyi was trying to established his own church to beat the righteousness of JWs but he ended up becoming your god since there is no Pastor amongst you that holy enough to preach in his stead.He only play recorded sermons for all of you both home and away. Abeg Catholic better pass Kumuyi settings joh at least they're friendly with neighbors unlike brainwashed Kumuyi church members who looks at everyone as HELLFIRE children simply because they're not paying tithes to Kumuyi! 1 Like |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 10:54pm On Dec 18, 2018 |
OLAADEGBU:Sorry for this confrontations, i don't intervene when anyone is trying to preach their own way but you posting rubbish about Jehovah's witnesses and also directly calling for my attention is what will make me open the can of worms you probably don't know about that greedy man called Kumuyi! 1 Like |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OneJ: 4:30am On Dec 19, 2018 |
TATIME: OLAADEGBU: @ OLAADEGBU, Your reply na story story. These are very WEIGHTY ALLEGATIONS against your beloved Daddy GO, Kumuyi. Go & bring the evidence make everybody here see am & confirm who is actually saying the truth ,as per these allegations. No dull yourself. 1 Like |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 7:27am On Dec 19, 2018 |
OneJ:If he is truly sincere about this,i'm 100% sure this will be the end of his membership with Kumuyi's church. I have a cousin who always carry Kumuyi's publications everywhere he goes back then,i wasn't a JW then so when i finally met JWs i thought it's the same religion because the artistic impressions on their publications and that of Kumuyi were exactly the same the only difference is JWs publications was colourful but Kumuyi's own in the photography forms. So i keep challenging the JWs for double standards until they proved to me that Kumuyi photocopied their drawings, so i decided to read both the publications of JWs and that of Kumuyi,then i discovered that the idiot just stole the pictures on JW's publications and using it to print his own only to change the subjects and information totally. If OLAADEGBU is truthfully a researcher and not someone sponsored by Kumuyi to come for advertising on NL let him go and bring those publications and i'll show him exactly the colored drawings from a JW publication titled "YOU CAN LIVE FOREVER IN PARADISE ON EARTH" 1 Like |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 8:24pm On Dec 19, 2018 |
Mr OLAADEGBU,next time you are calling for attention please just mind those you call because i can tolerate those whom their so called Pastors stayed clear from JWs as regards copyrights NOT a useless, good for nothing, greedy,idiot,copycat and thief like Kumuyi! So be warned, if you have any question regarding biblical issues fine you can call me for a clarification of what we believe but NOT when a deeperlife follower of Kumuyi,who don't even know how to approach strangers to strike a profitable conversation is now asking "how to WITNESS to those who are always in the field WITNESSING to everyone". That's the worstest ,most stupid and most idiotic question of all times! 2 Likes |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by sacajawea(m): 2:43am On Dec 20, 2018 |
@TATIME kumuyi was never a JW It makes All Your long write Up look silly |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 8:49am On Dec 20, 2018 |
sacajawea:Do you know his life history? When you hear anything strange about someone,instead of blindly arguing, why not try to INVESTIGATE for the sake of certainty? Well Kumuyi was a DISFELLOSHIPED member of JW and all the evidence is clearly written everywhere but if you're not ready to verify just keep quiet and watch,let OLAADEGBU refute what i said. And if you're also a member of Kumuyi's Church then refute what i said by presenting those late 80s and early 90s publications of Kumuyi! Nonsense and ingredients. 1 Like |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:35am On Dec 21, 2018 |
TATIME: The question of the OP is "How can one witness to a Jehovah witness?" No long story. |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 4:26am On Dec 21, 2018 |
OLAADEGBU:Well then it's evident that the OP's question is senseless, because the word WITNESS connotes TESTIMONY so a witness is the one who attests to a certain event,and it's obvious that only Jehovah's Witnesses are serving that purpose! *We study the Bible to ascertain what it REALLY teaches. Deuteronomy 6:6-10 *We verify by making thorough research and going for all materials to be sure. Proverbs 2:1-5 *We practice what we preach for confirmation of truth. *We prepare ourselves with all needed tools to help others grasp what we've discovered. Luke 14:28-30 *We make supplications to the owner of the work to empower us with HIS active force so that we can present it with mildness and self control since we're going UNINVITED. Matthew 19:26,1Peter 3:15 *Finally we come knocking on your doors for the bold presentation of our faith. Romans 10:13-15 NONE of YOU critics is as fully competent and completely equipped like the JWs(2 Timothy 3:16,17)therefore there is NO sense in asking unprepared,disorganized,divided and lazy antagonists and critics how they're going to confront JWs who are battle prepared as soldiers of Christ! Obafemi Awolowo was asked "how is it that you're never beaten in any debate against political opponents?" He said "all my political opponents contesting against me are going from one night club to the other when i'm busy making research on my presentations" So my Kumuyi's baby friend, NONE as in NO ONE amongst you can stand before the JWs to condemn the fine WORKS we're doing, because YOU'LL always be defeated anytime anywhere! Isaiah 54:17 Meanwhile your daddy GO Mr Kumuyi stole our books and used it extensively in deceiving your papas and mamas in the late 80s and early 90s,photocopying all our drawings only to change the subjects of the publications into his HELLFIRE doctrines! 1 Like |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 5:03am On Dec 21, 2018 |
Last year,this was exactly what one of your dumb Pastors presented to me while my wife and i were busy distributing the invitation to the memorial of Christ's death. Your dumb brother who knows nothing to preach rather than listening to Kumuyi's recordings tried to give us this useless flyer in exchange of our invitation, so i tactfully asked him *Me ~ "what's the purpose of his flyer" *Kumuyi's boy~ "it's an invitation to Kumuyi's camp along Lagos~Ibadan expressway" *Me~ "for what?" *Kumuyi's boy~"The man of God is ministering" *Me~"OK,can you show me quotation from the Bible on this?" Kumuyi's boy was confused,so i showed him the scriptural quotations highlighting the purpose of our invitation on our own. Kumuyi's boy said "i know that you Jehovah's Witnesses are trained lawyers" then i tactfully asked him "do you think Christians shouldn't be wise regarding what we're doing?" I later asked of his address since he seems approachable unlike most Kumuyi's children that i've met in the past,so that we can both continue having healthful discussions,he shamefully and reluctantly gave me,but ever since then he has been running from a one on one discussion with a JW! I can give you his address to be sure this is not a cooked up story. He is far older than me (in his late 60s)but he knew i am much more prepared for bearing thorough WITNESS about Jesus than himself because he don't even know how or where to start a conversation about God's kingdom! Now this is 2018 and Kumuyi has printed these flyers for all his children again to go out and distribute without a single reference to the Bible, does he think his stupid face is enough to convince honest hearted persons to travel all the way from where they're living to Ibafo? 1 Like
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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 8:58am On Dec 23, 2018 |
Where are you Kumuyi's boy OLAADEGBU? 1 Like |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by ableguy(m): 10:09pm On Dec 29, 2018 |
Chaii, oladegbu don get im match 1 Like |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 11:16pm On Dec 29, 2018 |
ableguy:NO Olaadegbu can NEVER be my match! He is just one of Kumuyi's dumb children, who thinks every other person will go to hellfire because they're not coming to Kumuyi's psychopathic gathering. So such a person can never ever be my match! If he is not dumb like his other co~churchgoers let him explain from the Bible *how women wearing jewelries has become a sin? *how alcoholic beverages has become a sin? *how one single person could be the only person the Holy Spirit is using to teach all the congregation,so that all other supposed Christians must listen to only his preaching or watch him on satellite? *why they're not celebrating Christmas? Because it's only Jehovah's Witnesses that are known world over for their stand against Christmas. Kumuyi's members just know that Kumuyi won't talk about Christmas at all whether it's good or bad but he won't celebrate it! *why Kumuyi used the drawings in Jehovah's Witnesses publications throughout the late 80s and early 90s if he(Kumuyi) has NOTHING to do with Jehovah's Witnesses? All they can do is stand or sit in the main street, bus stop or inside the bus to spew rubbish into the air,they can never face people to preach and teach privately because they don't have that confidence! Before Jesus, preachers do preach in the streets talking to passersby but when Jesus arrived that form of preaching becomes a SIN for any Christian, because Christian means Christlike and Jesus is Lord as in Lord of the preaching and teaching program. Whoever tries to do the preaching and teaching outside Jesus' style is committing SIN for calling himself/herself a Christian! Matthew 12:19 |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:05pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 9:50pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
@OLAADEGBU One thing is to spew what is common in your locality, the other is saying what is TRUE,FACTUAL and PRACTICAL. Most religious leaders around the world despises Jehovah's Witnesses and say a lot of bad things against the group, Jesus (the one called CHRIST) said the only way to settle the issue is examining the outcome of what each religious group has turned her members to in the society! Jesus referred to this as the FRUIT,so let's examine the FRUITS of the so called Jehovah's Witnesses in comparison to all other religious groups (including deeperlife members) and draw a conclusion on the after effect of the TEACHINGS of the so called Christians! *which group is free from bloodshed? *which group is free from political affairs? *which group's members are known for their efficacy in the preaching and teaching program commissioned by Jesus? *which group members are known as a GLOBAL family? *which group is the most friendly in the neighborhood,extending friendship to other? Well if you're still thinking all these happened by virtue of man's ideology, you can consider Paul's words found in Galatians 5:22,23 because James said if your FAITH isn't WORKING out anything positive, then such faith is DEAD! James 2:26 2 Likes |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Janosky: 10:31pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU: Olaadegbu junk gospel. Stop deceiving yourself . Faith with out works is dead James 2:26. John 20:17,30,31 . 1 Cor 11:3, Mark 1:9-11,14,15. Matt10:8 ,John 7:16 , why U no fit clean am comot from your Bible na.... ? 2 Likes |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 10:41pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
Janosky:He is one of Kumuyi's dumb members, but i wonder what Kumuyi will achieve by telling their females not to wear *jewelries *makeovers *hairdos *polished nails Yet they're NOT calling that "WORKS" but it's Jehovah's Witnesses who are zealously preaching and teaching in their neighborhood that they're debunking as WORKS! Please what then does God required from us to copy from Jesus Christ. 2 Likes |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:23pm On Jan 02, 2019 |
OneJ: ableguy: Janosky: TATIME: Below is a checklist of God's Moral Law, we can find out whether we have broken it or not: Have I always loved God my Creator with all my heart, mind, soul and strength? ____YES ___NO Have I made a god in my own image? a god to suit myself? ____YES ___NO Have I ever used God's name in vain? ____YES ___NO Have I kept the Sabbath holy? ____YES ___NO Have I always honoured my parents implicitly? ____YES ___NO Have I murdered (God considers hatred as murder)? ____YES ___NO Have I committed adultery (including premarital sex and lust)? ____YES ___NO Have I stolen (the value is irrelevant)? ____YES ___NO Have I lied (including fibs and these questions)? ____YES ___NO Have I coveted (been greedy or materialistic)? ____YES ___NO If you have even broken one Law, then you have sinned against God and therefore will "surely die," for the "wages of sin is death." (Death is the separation from God, either temporary or permanently) We are all guilty of breaking the Commandments. Listen to the voice of your conscience, and let it remind you of some of the sins of the past. We are not perfect as we are commanded to be (Matthew 5:48), neither is our heart pure. On Judgment Day our transgressions will be the evidence of our shame. Think of it: God has seen every sin we have ever committed. We share our thought-life with Him. We are guilty of violating His Law a multitude of times, yet if we repent, God can forgive us because Jesus stepped into the courtroom 2,000 years ago and paid the fine for us. His death on the cross satisfied the Law we so blatantly transgressed, and at the same time demonstrated how much God loves us— "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life." His shed blood on the cross can make you clean in the sight of a holy God, as though you have never sinned. God doesn't want you to go to Hell. Please, forget your arguments, repent and put your trust in Jesus and be saved from God's wrath. Make Psalm 51 your prayer, then read your Bible daily and always obey what you read; God will never let you down. |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 9:30pm On Jan 02, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU:You've failed woefully my friend! Even if you've never broken any of those laws YOU WILL STILL DIE because you've inherited sin from Adam. Romans 5:12 So my friend Kumuyi has taught you NOTHING. Faith in Jesus is what will save you,NOT keeping of those Mosaic laws. Galatians 3:18 The laws served as a mirror but not what we need keeping to get salvation, it's by EXERCISING faith in the ransom sacrifice of Jesus that salvation is possible! Galatians 3:22-25 Jesus is the way,truth and life nobody as in NOBODY can come to the father except through Jesus! John 14:6 Just keep looking at Jesus, try all within you to imitate Him to the best of your ability and your salvation is SURE! 1Peter 2:21 So you still need to IDENTIFY the true Christians and learn from them those qualities Jesus exhibited in thoughts, words and actions. And for your information HELL simply means GRAVE,it's the common destination for all the dead that's why Jesus at death also went to HELL. Act 2:32,32 His father and God resurrected Him. John 20:17 So Jesus differs from the Almighty God JEHOVAH as that greedy thief Mr Kumuyi taught you! 1 Like |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:43am On Jan 03, 2019 |
TATIME: All that argument will not save you if you refuse to humble yourself and repent. 1 Like
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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47: 1:01am On Jan 03, 2019 |
Janosky: false jw jano we (christians that is) are saved by grace through faith: Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: we are not saved by works: Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. faith without works is dead, means that once saved we do good works, we do not do good works to be saved, we do good works because we are saved: Jas_2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? faith without works is dead, meaning it is not doing anything: Jas_2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. saved christians have a living faith, doing good works whether much or little even if false jw's were preaching the true gospel it wouldn't save them, salvation is by God's grace through faith, but the works you false jw's do of preaching a false gospel where Jesus body was not raised and where there are two gods, almighty god father, and mighty god son, of course only saves you for the lake of fire but anyway go ahead you false jw's, continue to take credit for preaching your false gospel, laughing 1 Like |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:05am On Jan 03, 2019 |
johnw47: Way to go! Blessed New Year! |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47: 1:21am On Jan 03, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU: hi brother from another mother |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:30am On Jan 03, 2019 |
johnw47: Keep on fighting the good fight of faith this year. 1 Like |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Janosky: 3:31am On Jan 03, 2019 |
johnw47:Another junk "gospel " from a confirmed fraud. Be not deceived ! The word of God can not be broken, says Jesus, the son of his Father,(John 10:34-36) "But do you care to know, O empty man, that faith with out works is useless ?" James 2;20 You see that man is to be declared righteous by works and not by faith alone" James 2:24 "However become doers of the word and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves with false reasoning" James 1:22 The rich young man did lots of good works but never had the faith to follow Christ .Matt19:16-21. 1 Like |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47: 5:17am On Jan 03, 2019 |
Janosky: of course that's just more of your very many lies false jw jano, but being a confirmed fraud would be much better than being a confirmed habitual liar: Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Janosky: oh duh again false jw jano, faith without works is dead - alone - not living that's why saved christians do good works but we are not saved by works, we (christians that is) are saved by grace through faith Janosky: oh duh duh duh, we are made righteous by works, because works tests our faith, like in the abraham account, but we are saved by grace through faith but don't believe God false jw jano, i don't expect satans mob to, but i like showing what huge liars false jw's are post after post day after day, smile Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 6:11am On Jan 03, 2019 |
pressplay411:keep quite my friend accept that jesus christ is the word of God made flesh read john 1:1 1 Like |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 6:55am On Jan 03, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU:Your GO {Mr Kumuyi} is a thief period! I've presented facts before you so you can call that argument since you can't face the TRUTH from God's word! 1 Like |
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