There was once a pagan shrine in Abeokuta where abducted strangers were kidnapped and used for rituals.
When the Catholic missionary Rev. Father Jean-Marie Coquard came to Abeokuta, he won many people to Christ by his humility and simplicity and by the power of the word of God.

Soon that very same evil shrine was torn down and in its place, a Cathedral was built.

Applying this same logic to Christmas, it becomes apparent that replacing a pagan holiday with a Christ centered celebration was therefore, nothing short of a stroke of genius.

The result is that whenever December the 25th is mentioned, the first name that comes to people’s minds is that of Jesus.

Truly the early Church Fathers were very wise.

Their wisdom by far eclipsed that of a 21st century mulatto dummy radio dj and a 7th century illiterate pedophile fake prophet.
By the way, this is what the fake illiterate “prophet” was best known for doing:

johnmba:


Are u talking of jewish festivals Are we jews

you guys keep coming up with crap excuses, this festivals you called Jewish were created by man or God??

LuciferCatholic:


So if Jesus' birthday is subject to change, where is its relevance?

I'm telling you......

kiddoiLL:
this must be the most stupid comment I've read this month...The feasts that God himself instructed are not relevant? They were made to be abolished by who? You? your pastor? what a load of crap

Those feast were not observed by Jesus.They were part of the law. Don't be spiritual illiterate

God instructed sacrifices for the remission of sin....why did we stop

Why did we now work on Sabbath?

Why have access to holy of holies

Why no longer eye for an eye...but love your neighbour

Why no longer stoned to death but Go and sin no more

I guess Jesus waa going against God and mosaics law

LuciferCatholic:



1. Mr Man answer the question and stop deviating please


2. Keyword: "They didn't"... don't add any other thing for us. We don't need sermons.
This proves Christmas was man made


3. If you agree Jesus wasn't born in winter, it means you agree he wasn't born on December 25th.
Another proof that Christmas is man made



4. So Christians couldn't understand the most important day of their religion while the Apostles and the Holy Spirit was with them.
But they finally understood it after a pagan helped them choose a date.

God truly works in mysterious ways

Anyway, 3rd proof that Christmas is man made.



5. In 336AD, Emperor Constantine set December 25th as the official Christmas Day for the Roman Empire. It has remained so till this very day.

Constantine was a pagan but converted to Christianity on his deathbed and was declared a saint till this very day!

You have internet access and libraries - use them!

Dude be nice, abeg no crush the spirit of celebration . Incase my neighbor dey nairaland & he sees this, I might not get Turkey & drinks this Xmas. So calm down jare






lol just kidding woh

Christmas is another truckload of bullshit

alBHAGDADI:


They became rejected after rejecting Jesus

Lol but but they are still the chosen people according to Christians. You as a person hate Muslims who didn't reject Jesus but love jews who did .

I hail all of una

tsephanyah:
If you read this, I’ll add ten years to your life or subtract ten years...you pick.

I read and digested it all. Information is power.

I've always and would always celebrate Christmas because Jesus is the reason for the season.

kiddoiLL:
Lol...nigga I'm done with you, you're lost... the people that God gave instructions directly and called his special people are Antichrist??, the Bible isn't Jewish books translated to English? man I'm done with you

Do the Jews believe Jesus is the son of God?

No. So that makes them Antichrist. Why do you think they killed Jesus Christ?

1 John 2:22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son

One JW was telling me he will work on Christmas. Saying they don't celebrate birthdays because of Herod. People will use even satan to imprison themselves. What concerns Christianity with Herod's decision to kill John on his birthday. Is that why all humanity should no longer celebrate our day of birth? Stupid doctrine

alBHAGDADI:
Don't you know that it was around Passover Jesus was crucified?

What stupid book are you showing me in the picture? Didn't you read where I stated in the OP that we are not to trust Jewish books because they are Antichrist?

what stupid book did I show you? Okay sir, I snapped the page from my Bible, Good News translation. You throw names around, you really don't know shít... I pray you don't die in your ignorance

alBHAGDADI:


Do the Jews believe Jesus is the son of God?

No. So that makes them Antichrist. Why do you think they killed Jesus Christ?

1 John 2:22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son

so stupid

LuciferCatholic:
alBHAGDADI & MrPresident1 answer these questions or forever remain silent:


1. Why wasn't Christmas mentioned in the Bible?

2. Why did St. Peter, St. Paul and all the authors of the New Testament not make reference to Christmas in the numerous letters they wrote to the churches?

3. How could shepherds be out with their sheep at night on Jesus' birthday if Jesus was born in winter?

4. Why did Christians wait till 336AD (over 300 years after Jesus' death) to celebrate their first Christmas?

5. Why did it take a Pagan (Emperor Constantine) to "remind" Christians to celebrate the most important day of their religion?




PS: You cannot quote Bible verses because the Bible actually has nothing to say about Christmas since the Bible was written long before Christmas (as we are made to believe).

That 'Pagan' - Emperor Constantine is one of the very important people that made the worldwide spread of christianity possible, making christianity the most popular religion by human population.

The most contradictory, baseless and one angled article I have read in a long while.

kiddoiLL:
what stupid book did I show you? Okay sir, I snapped the page from my Bible, Good News translation. You throw names around, you really don't know shít... I pray you don't die in your ignorance

Good news Bible is fake and inspired by Satan. Go through my profile to see where I exposed those Bible versions.

kiddoiLL:
what stupid book did I show you? Okay sir, I snapped the page from my Bible, Good News translation. You throw names around, you really don't know shít... I pray you don't die in your ignorance

Hosea 4:6 my people die for lack of knowledge

LuciferCatholic:



1. Mr Man answer the question and stop deviating please


2. Keyword: "They didn't"... don't add any other thing for us. We don't need sermons.
This proves Christmas was man made


3. If you agree Jesus wasn't born in winter, it means you agree he wasn't born on December 25th.
Another proof that Christmas is man made



4. So Christians couldn't understand the most important day of their religion while the Apostles and the Holy Spirit was with them.
But they finally understood it after a pagan helped them choose a date.

God truly works in mysterious ways

Anyway, 3rd proof that Christmas is man made.



5. In 336AD, Emperor Constantine set December 25th as the official Christmas Day for the Roman Empire. It has remained so till this very day.

Constantine was a pagan but converted to Christianity on his deathbed and was declared a saint till this very day!

You have internet access and libraries - use them!

Dont forget we are using a new calender which was not in use during constantine era.

Cant we just agree on a date to celebrate.

femi4:
Those feast were not observed by Jesus.They were part of the law. Don't be spiritual illiterate

God instructed sacrifices for the remission of sin....why did we stop

Why did we now work on Sabbath?

Why have access to holy of holies

Haha there! I was waiting for you to cone up with the Jesus came didn't celebrate or Jesus changed the law crap.... The laws were abolished? Tithing isn't a law from God? it's not meant to be abolished? . .there's no point arguing with you

Inception:



That 'Pagan' - Emperor Constantine is one of the very important people that made the worldwide spread of christianity possible, making christianity the most popular religion by human population.

He doesn't even know that Constantine converted to Christianity before he died.

If I were to examine u. I'll score u
minus zero for wasting my time to read this shit

LuciferCatholic:



In that case, I also have the power to choose June 12th as Christmas day.

Do you agree?

Lmao them send you to am ni


People dey this nairaland

The problem with the Bible is that you can use it to prove anything Literarily anything

That makes everything in it unreliable Yet, some people pick a part of it and call it the truth, while ignoring another part that says otherwise

I still wonder what any educated person is doing with a self contradictory book like that

kiddoiLL:
you guys keep coming up with crap excuses, this festivals you called Jewish were created by man or God??

The jewish festivals recorded in old testament were not man made

LuciferCatholic:





You contradict yourself.

You say "Yes he wasn't born on December 25th" and "there's a 100% chance he was born on December 25th".

Which one is it uncle?

Quoting Bible verses do not justify anything if you cannot provide incontrovertible proof - especially since the Bible's authenticity cannot be verified.



Reasons for Christmas being a pagan holiday wasn't because of Nimrod (another embarrassing error on your part), it is because of the Roman Sun God - Mithra.

1. Dies Natalis Solis Invicti means 'birthday of the unconquered sun' and was held on December 25th (when the Romans thought the Winter Solstice took place) and was the 'birthday' of the Pagan Sun god Mithra.

Years after Jesus' death, Christianity gradually grew popular & incited a lot of riots in the Roman Empire. Emperor Constantine had to merge the pagan Sun God celebration (Sol Invictus) with Christian doctrines to pacify both parties. The Bible you read today was revised by Bishops & politicians & many books were removed & banned at the Council of Nicacea.

Even the sunday you attend churches was gotten from the pagan religion of Mithraism, the holy day was Sunday and is where we get that word from!



2. Jesus couldn't have been born on December 25th because according to his birth story, shepherds flocked at night.

Shepherds don't flock outside in the Middle East around December (winter). This happens around spring (October).

Its usually cold outside and even snows so how on earth could shepherds have been outside at night with sheep on a hill that would probably be snowcapped and devoid of any grass?!

They say ignorance is bliss. Leave the ignorant to wallow in ignorance. They know nothing about history. Nothing!

This poster is just beating around the Bush... Give fact about Christmas or just shut it...

I love Christmas because it a modification of paganism festival. all thanks to the Roman emperor.


The poet Lucian of Samosata (AD 120-180) has the god Cronos (Saturn) say in his poem, Saturnalia:

‘During my week the serious is barred: no business allowed. Drinking and being drunk, noise and games of dice, appointing of kings and feasting of slaves, singing naked, clapping … an occasional ducking of corked faces in icy water – such are the functions over which I preside.""

kiddoiLL:
Haha there! I was waiting for you to cone up with the Jesus came didn't celebrate or Jesus changed the law crap.... The laws were abolished? Tithing isn't a law from God? it's not meant to be abolished? . .there's no point arguing with you

Olodo...Tithing is inclusive but Jesus is indifferent whether you pay tithe or not Mt 23:23

Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.

johnmba:


The jewish festivals recorded in old testament were not man made

So why the baseless argument and excuses to abolish those festivals??

kestolove95:
Christmas is another truckload of bullshit

So also is all Islamic days of celebrations.

Mizwisdom:
One JW was telling me he will work on Christmas. Saying they don't celebrate birthdays because of Herod. People will use even satan to imprison themselves. What concerns Christianity with Herod's decision to kill John on his birthday. Is that why all humanity should no longer celebrate our day of birth? Stupid doctrine

December 25 was celebrated as the birthday of Lord bal by pagans before emperor Constantine changed it to Jesus birthday.

You can't deceive God. All your doctrines have a root in paganism.
You celebrate easter without knowing the meaning.

What has the name Easter got to do with the death of Jesus Christ? We Christians are not asking questions.

The same way Muslims are not questioning Salah. How come they celebrate Ibrahim sacrifice more than the birth of mohammed.

All these festivals and celebrations are what pagans used to ensure their practices survive till eternity thanks to zombies religion wackos

I see some cosmo powers will come here to argue because they don't want to hear the name of Jesus Christ. They say they are atheist but still argue about what they don't believe in. May the God of heaven and earth render you all powerless on this thread, be confused and destroy your own false logic in Jesus name, I nullify all your evil intentions and set fire on your camps in JESUS MIGHTY NAME!

alBHAGDADI:


Do the Jews believe Jesus is the son of God?

No. So that makes them Antichrist. Why do you think they killed Jesus Christ?

1 John 2:22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son

And you think you know better than the Jews?

Do you know that the same Bible you are quoting today was originally written in Aramaic & Hebrew (Jewish languages) before being translated to Greek and then English.


If the originators of the Bible (Jews) doubt Jesus then I believe they m.ust have a very strong reason to.