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Re: Zico: "Lionel Messi Can't Be Compared To Maradona Or Pele" by Nobody: 7:07pm On Jan 03, 2019
Truthisit:

They compare Messi to Pele and maradona because they are from the same continent. The region inspired the comparisons more than with CR7. But have you noticed that no one in European football history is being compared to CR7, because none came close.
nonsense and stupid reasoning u must be a kid name 1 european player greater than pele grin

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Re: Zico: "Lionel Messi Can't Be Compared To Maradona Or Pele" by Nobody: 7:10pm On Jan 03, 2019
SillyeRabbit:
angry
Orishirishi
Re: Zico: "Lionel Messi Can't Be Compared To Maradona Or Pele" by ObaKlaz: 7:13pm On Jan 03, 2019
obonujoker:


Ogbeni what skills does Messi has other than 1 dimensional dribbles (though very effective).??
Messi is a center forward, winger and playmaker all in one (he plays these roles exceptionally well!), yet he's 'one-dimensional' and just an 'effective dribbler', huh? How d'you people even think? Please bro, DO NOT mention me on this issue anymore. You have no sound, objective discuss to offer.

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Re: Zico: "Lionel Messi Can't Be Compared To Maradona Or Pele" by cooluzi: 7:16pm On Jan 03, 2019
VolvoS60:

grin

Raw tribalism in football is alive and well...Let me join in too... cheesy

How can anyone describe Zico as "this one" because of his (admittedly harsh) comments about Messi? grin

But Zico has a point. In an era where clubs are richer than some countries, the World Cup (despite FIFA's many failings) seems to be the only place where the big superstars can be brought down to earth. You might be the World's best player in the richest league but if you haven't won the world cup, then there's something missing...
the last time I check a player cannot play a world cup alone.... it's a team competition right? then why do you have to drag messi to this? hypocrites

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Re: Zico: "Lionel Messi Can't Be Compared To Maradona Or Pele" by cooluzi: 7:20pm On Jan 03, 2019
obonujoker:

Lemme guess, you are a messi fan...
lemme guess you are penaldo d**khead

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Re: Zico: "Lionel Messi Can't Be Compared To Maradona Or Pele" by kachi19: 7:20pm On Jan 03, 2019
Lucid1:


How many of their games did you watch? Be sincere, have you watched up to 10 games Pele featured in? I'm talking club level games

Brazil was like the US ARMY of world football. South America as a nation was financially and physically vibrant back then. Nobody gave any fuvk about club football like they adorn the world Cup like it's the coming of Christ. Football grew harder and stranger over the years in all that Messi still thrives. Argentina football has been a mess, entire South America is now a mess. Now no matter how strong Brazil national team seem they'll not go far at international level. Yes I watched a video of Pele play back then it wasn't much of a big deal cos nobody really gives attention to Club football as they did today

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Re: Zico: "Lionel Messi Can't Be Compared To Maradona Or Pele" by Corrosiveman(m): 7:21pm On Jan 03, 2019
obonujoker:


Does Messi have skills up to this players.... Ronaldinho, R9, CR7....

Note: skills not dribbles....
Messi is above all players you mentioned......Even Ronaldinho confirmed it when he won the Ballon D'or that he isn't even the Best in Barcelona......Note don't Compare CR7 to messi on any occassion what messi achieved below 25 years is Unimaginable.......He was the youngest player to win the Golden Ball in the world cup something which modric who is Above 33 just got,....Saying about skills Ronaldo is Predictable same leg over which one can easily slide the ball of him Unlike Messi who you cant predict his next move......
NOTE:AM A TRUE MADRID FAN

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Re: Zico: "Lionel Messi Can't Be Compared To Maradona Or Pele" by rozayx5(m): 7:21pm On Jan 03, 2019
jcmaiah:
Messi is hype, just like everything in the world. If he was so wonderful Argentina should have won 2 world cups under him at least. Can he play the way he does if he is to play in 2nd division club
shocked shocked

Messi hype

Sorry your not a football fan, yours is beyond hate, its blindness

Even ardent anti,-barca fans won't say this

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Re: Zico: "Lionel Messi Can't Be Compared To Maradona Or Pele" by Nobody: 7:22pm On Jan 03, 2019
obonujoker:


Ogbeni what skills does Messi has other than 1 dimensional dribbles (though very effective).??

Egbon, what of pirlo of juve that doesn't dribble much. Does it mean pirlo is not skillful?. Midfield mastery comes with lots of skills it doesn't matter how many dimension. Messi is like Pirlo+Ronaldo-Heading ability

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Re: Zico: "Lionel Messi Can't Be Compared To Maradona Or Pele" by rozayx5(m): 7:25pm On Jan 03, 2019
obonujoker:


Ogbeni what skills does Messi has other than 1 dimensional dribbles (though very effective).??

Bruce Lee said he fears one who has practised one kick a thousand times

Messi still very unpredictable with his tricks

When boatemg thought he knew messi, he woke up on the ground

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Re: Zico: "Lionel Messi Can't Be Compared To Maradona Or Pele" by Icon79(m): 7:30pm On Jan 03, 2019
Bros, are you for real? You watched Pele play in the '70s?

Wow. How old are you anyway

.... asking for a friend grin


O pari

ObaKlaz:
This is the only other excuse they use to understate Messi's genius and greatness. While I might agree with them over the world cup wins, but when it comes to sheer skills and talents, Pele is no match for Maradona, let alone Messi! Messi would thoroughly school Pele, if we're limiting it to just skills. And yes, I've been privileged to watch Pele and Maradona play their days, I'm not relying on YouTube videos!
Re: Zico: "Lionel Messi Can't Be Compared To Maradona Or Pele" by chiboy1116: 7:30pm On Jan 03, 2019
obonujoker:


Can you give us one good reason why Messi is better than Pele or Maradona??
I have seen guys that watched both of them ...and it's obvious Messi is better . Messi was more consistent, was a better dribbler, a better scorer , a better passer , and a far better finisher . Tell me why maradona is better .
Re: Zico: "Lionel Messi Can't Be Compared To Maradona Or Pele" by Icon79(m): 7:31pm On Jan 03, 2019
Bros, there are some people you ignore. Seriously, I won't waste my time arguing with someone who's shown himself to be clueless about soccer. gosh, you can't even pay me to argue with most people on this forum.


O pari

ObaKlaz:
Messi is a center forward, winger and playmaker all in one (he plays these roles exceptionally well!), yet he's 'one-dimensional' and just an 'effective dribbler', huh? How d'you people even think? Please bro, DO NOT mention me on this issue anymore. You have no sound, objective discuss to offer.
Re: Zico: "Lionel Messi Can't Be Compared To Maradona Or Pele" by tesppidd: 7:34pm On Jan 03, 2019
obonujoker:
Top 10, players ever with respect to records and trophies won for both club and country....

Pele
Maradona
Zidane
Ronaldo de Lima
Cristiano Ronaldo
Lionel Messi
Johan Cryuff
Ronaldinho
Beckenbauer
Alfredo di Stefanp
why are you bringing cristiano ronaldo into the conversation?

did zico mention his name?
Re: Zico: "Lionel Messi Can't Be Compared To Maradona Or Pele" by Icon79(m): 7:37pm On Jan 03, 2019
Cristiano Ronaldo shouldn't even be in the conversation. In the modern game, the best players in the world play in the #10 role - Leo Messi, Diego Maradona, Zinadine Zidane, Ronaldihno, etc etc. Your #10 is like your quarter back in America football. Hence, comparing Cristiano Ronaldo with Leo Messi is like comparing a wide receiver with a quarter back - silly comparison!


O pari

DREAMZZZ:
messi has always been compared to maradona and pele.....but ronaldo has always been compared to messi grin grin
Re: Zico: "Lionel Messi Can't Be Compared To Maradona Or Pele" by tesppidd: 7:38pm On Jan 03, 2019
obonujoker:


Ogbeni what skills does Messi has other than 1 dimensional dribbles (though very effective).??

1. Goal scorer.(best in the world)
2. Free kick GOAT.(best in the world)
3. Pass master.(best in the world)
4. Play maker.(top 2 in the world)
5. Dribbling genius.(best in the world)

Two questions for you.


1.How old are you?
2.What have you been smoking??

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Re: Zico: "Lionel Messi Can't Be Compared To Maradona Or Pele" by chiboy1116: 7:38pm On Jan 03, 2019
Lucid1:


How many of their games did you watch? Be sincere, have you watched up to 10 games Pele featured in? I'm talking club level games
lolx ..I didn't watch Pele , but that dude is overrated . Make I tell u y


The first WC Pele won he was still a kid then , he wasn't the best player in the team sef.
The second WC he won he just played the group stages and got injured , gaarincha practically won them the WC
The third WC I heard Brazil had lots and lots of WC players like rivellino and the rest .


Pele is really lucky he won three WC ,not becos he's good but becos he had a really really good Brazilian team , this was when the Brazilian league was one of the best if not the best in the world then. That's y I always say he's overrated , he's good but overrated . I rate Messi , Ronaldo delima, maradona, Ronaldo ahead of him . Some of the old Brazilian locals in Brazil believes gaarincha was a better player than Pele but Pele was more recognised cos he had good antics , he was the kinda guy a lady would take home to meet her parents . But gaarincha was a drunkard , a womaniser , he slept with prostitutes and didn't train at times ...I have read a lot about the guy and watched some clips TV , dude was a freaking bad a*s dribbler . Imagine say pesn de show 2000's skills for 1955 u go fear na .....Pele with his 1000gols only few were in competitive tournaments . Ronaldo and Messi don De catch am for competitive gols . I de so sure say one of dem go break that golden record stuff . Cos he has like 750 official gols .

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Re: Zico: "Lionel Messi Can't Be Compared To Maradona Or Pele" by Segekesy(m): 7:44pm On Jan 03, 2019
messi is always compare to Pele and maradona , there's no way you talk about football greatest messi will always be the in front line , after mentioning the real ronaldo and others b4 c-ronaldo will be mentioned, so I don't know why people always compare c-ronaldo with messi, the difference is Claire
Re: Zico: "Lionel Messi Can't Be Compared To Maradona Or Pele" by HenryInno1(m): 7:52pm On Jan 03, 2019
obonujoker:

In what areas is he the best??
U already know bro
Re: Zico: "Lionel Messi Can't Be Compared To Maradona Or Pele" by ALAYORMII: 7:53pm On Jan 03, 2019
Truthisit:

They compare Messi to Pele and maradona because they are from the same continent. The region inspired the comparisons more than with CR7. But have you noticed that no one in European football history is being compared to CR7, because none came close.



Are Pele and Maradona being considered best from South America or the world??



Always use ur head and not ur heart when arguing

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Re: Zico: "Lionel Messi Can't Be Compared To Maradona Or Pele" by Nobody: 7:53pm On Jan 03, 2019
Zico is a dullard. Can 1 man alone win a world cup?

What if his national team mates are totally useless undecided

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Re: Zico: "Lionel Messi Can't Be Compared To Maradona Or Pele" by odizeey(m): 7:56pm On Jan 03, 2019
Corrosiveman:

Messi is above all players you mentioned......Even Ronaldinho confirmed it when he won the Ballon D'or that he isn't even the Best in Barcelona......Note don't Compare CR7 to messi on any occassion what messi achieved below 25 years is Unimaginable.......He was the youngest player to win the Golden Ball in the world cup something which modric who is Above 33 just got,....Saying about skills Ronaldo is Predictable same leg over which one can easily slide the ball of him Unlike Messi who you cant predict his next move......
NOTE:AM A TRUE MADRID FAN
even mi said Jesse jags was better than he
Re: Zico: "Lionel Messi Can't Be Compared To Maradona Or Pele" by tuzle(m): 7:57pm On Jan 03, 2019
Why do Messi fans like bringing c Ronaldo into their discussion, there was no where he was mentioned in zico's conversation but just read there comment c Ronaldo name is plenty there. And later they will say c Ronaldo fans are bad belle
Re: Zico: "Lionel Messi Can't Be Compared To Maradona Or Pele" by odizeey(m): 7:58pm On Jan 03, 2019
rozayx5:


Bruce Lee said he fears one who has practised one kick a thousand times

Messi still very unpredictable with his tricks

When boatemg thought he knew messi, he woke up on the ground
where is Bruce Lee today
Re: Zico: "Lionel Messi Can't Be Compared To Maradona Or Pele" by Segekesy(m): 7:59pm On Jan 03, 2019
messi is the greatest ever footballer that's why you will never hear Pele comparing himself to c-ronaldo , he only compare himself to messi, the only argument against messi is the world cup, and that he didn't achieve anything or win honour with his country but they have forgotten that the same person won under-20 world cup and Olympic gold medal, if you say Pele is greater than messi I can understand you a little but not any other
Re: Zico: "Lionel Messi Can't Be Compared To Maradona Or Pele" by tuzle(m): 8:01pm On Jan 03, 2019
GODPUNISHUNA:
Zico is a dullard. Can 1 man alone win a world cup?

What if his national team mates are totally useless undecided
argentina has a very good squad, there was a time were by they had like 9 top attackers. There problem is not the players, they don't have the coach that can make these player gel together. Forlan a single player almost took Uruguay to the finals(with a good team work)
Re: Zico: "Lionel Messi Can't Be Compared To Maradona Or Pele" by Techiekingee(m): 8:02pm On Jan 03, 2019
obonujoker:


Can you give us one good reason why Messi is better than Pele or Maradona??
Do u agree with me that Messi's lack of Lack of silverware with Argentina is d reason why he is still compared with Maradona or Pele?....To tell u dat he is above dem in all Ramifications, Imagine Messi wins a world cup today.... Just one.... What do u think will happen to Maradona's Name??
Messi has won everything club wise
Top scorer of d Argentina National team...
His goals, assists, vision, playmaking
7th highest goal scorer of all time-just 102 goals behind the great Pele's official goals
Champions leagues
Everything
Y'all haters should just pray Messi never wins anything with argentina....Cause if he ever does.... No more arguments... Not even Messi vs Ronaldo arguments

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Re: Zico: "Lionel Messi Can't Be Compared To Maradona Or Pele" by CeeKay17: 8:04pm On Jan 03, 2019
obonujoker:


Does Messi have skills up to this players.... Ronaldinho, R9, CR7....

Note: skills not dribbles....
I'm sure you meant "tricks" cuz Messi is the most skilful player in the game. He just doesn't do elaborate tricks or flicks.
Re: Zico: "Lionel Messi Can't Be Compared To Maradona Or Pele" by odizeey(m): 8:06pm On Jan 03, 2019
chiboy1116:
lolx ..I didn't watch Pele , but that dude is overrated . Make I tell u y


The first WC Pele won he was still a kid then , he wasn't the best player in the team sef.
The second WC he won he just played the group stages and got injured , gaarincha practically won them the WC
The third WC I heard Brazil had lots and lots of WC players like rivellino and the rest .


Pele is really lucky he won three WC ,not becos he's good but becos he had a really really good Brazilian team , this was when the Brazilian league was one of the best if not the best in the world then. That's y I always say he's overrated , he's good but overrated . I rate Messi , Ronaldo delima, maradona, Ronaldo ahead of him . Some of the old Brazilian locals in Brazil believes gaarincha was a better player than Pele but Pele was more recognised cos he had good antics , he was the kinda guy a lady would take home to meet her parents . But gaarincha was a drunkard , a womaniser , he slept with prostitutes and didn't train at times ...I have read a lot about the guy and watched some clips TV , dude was a freaking bad a*s dribbler . Imagine say pesn de show 2000's skills for 1955 u go fear na .....Pele with his 1000gols only few were in competitive tournaments . Ronaldo and Messi don De catch am for competitive gols . I de so sure say one of dem go break that golden record stuff . Cos he has like 750 official gols .
story why did we not hear other names like his since there were better players than him
Re: Zico: "Lionel Messi Can't Be Compared To Maradona Or Pele" by Techiekingee(m): 8:06pm On Jan 03, 2019
obonujoker:


Does Messi have skills up to this players.... Ronaldinho, R9, CR7....

Note: skills not dribbles....
Define skills
Re: Zico: "Lionel Messi Can't Be Compared To Maradona Or Pele" by odizeey(m): 8:07pm On Jan 03, 2019
Segekesy:
messi is the greatest ever footballer that's why you will never hear Pele comparing himself to c-ronaldo , he only compare himself to messi, the only argument against messi is the world cup, and that he didn't achieve anything or win honour with his country but they have forgotten that the same person won under-20 world cup and Olympic gold medal, if you say Pele is greater than messi I can understand you a little but not any other
so now it is messi that won the under 20 its no longer team work
Re: Zico: "Lionel Messi Can't Be Compared To Maradona Or Pele" by Adakintroy: 8:09pm On Jan 03, 2019
Leave pele. He only had one great world cup. When he was 17. The other two were won for him. Plus his imaginary 1000 goals were score at Santos not even in a top European league an act witness only by him.

Maradona got send off in his first world cup..but was explosive in the next and won it. Got to the final in his third. Got sign to bacelona could not play. Was chip to napoli..we're he won a miserable single league title plus one European cup.


In case of Messi you are a witness to his achievements. He may not have won the world cup, but he has come mightily close. Same with the Copa america. But as for club football and personal honors he is way ahead of those two. Plus he can play football.

So in judging we should not use one particular standard. Rather notice , that were one excel the other failed. Maybe Just simply a case of faith.

Aside anyone who has ever played football, looking at how that boy played football, neat, controversy free and humble and still thinks he has not earn the right to be compared to the all time great is not a football lover.

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