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Re: Thread For Bakery Owners And Intending Owners In Nigeria by Rerhoov: 10:40am On Jan 15, 2019
@khatea, i will like to do packaging business with u, lets talk on fone, u can contact me on 07066315789 or drop ur no here
Re: Thread For Bakery Owners And Intending Owners In Nigeria by Nobody: 10:43am On Jan 15, 2019
kingssmith:
600k is impossible oo.hence you will operate on 70% recurring maintenance a 25kg mixer is already 500k

I own a premium bakery.

Twenty m setting it up.and I'm making a lot of profit without struggles.

Budget minimum of 2.5 m depends on your location though.thanks
Good morning sir, can I come work for you please, in your bakery.
Re: Thread For Bakery Owners And Intending Owners In Nigeria by Rerhoov: 10:43am On Jan 15, 2019
kingssmith is right, i am in the middle of starting up one n i had spents more than 2m. though its close to start up nw. @ kingssmith, i will like us to relate one on one for advice. kindly contact me on 07066315789 or drop ur no for me.

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Re: Thread For Bakery Owners And Intending Owners In Nigeria by Rebuke: 11:01am On Jan 15, 2019
Boyooosa:

Those first two reasonable comments are the best shots. Don't be lazy, investment requires more than online enquiry. Online enquiry is good when u r making moves, updating online and getting practical advice as necessary.
1, do ur feasibility right (practical not phone or enquiry)
2. Get ur figures (market price ) both on cost and expenditure.
3. Find out the potententials in the business (online can work a bit here but not as effective as ur local area market survey) get it and accurately.
4. Determine your start up capital (which u r assuming 600k), bep, roi and other logistics from day 1 (ie business plan).
5. Most importantly, 600k can only do Nada! That's just the basic truth.
Mind you, if u want to have peace of mind, do all the necessary registrations and get the necessary license(s) to run the business. Join or affiliate ur self with relevant association or organisations will help u run ur biz with peace (talking from experience tho).
Now, let's do small calculation;
Bakery rent or acquisition, nowhere u won't need lesser than 250k. Locally constructed 25kg mixer won't cost u lesser than 150 - 200k, befitting regulated baking oven1.5-2.5, if u need result.
Materials, other tools, workers salary must be projected for at least 6months b4 profit expectation.
All these things are the things u need to put into consideration.
Wish u well tho.




Thanks a bunch. I truly appreciate yhur advice.

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Re: Thread For Bakery Owners And Intending Owners In Nigeria by Rebuke: 11:07am On Jan 15, 2019
akinlolumichael:
I don't really know the kind of bread u want to do. If it is to be the normal agege bread you can start with 600k or even less. Ask me how? You don't need to buy all the equipment for start. You just have to rent a bakery and join association, then you start. With 600k, you are good to go. But there is disadvantage in it. The only disadvantage is that you will pay the owner of the bakery per bag of flour you bake... I have done it and it work for me. Now I have my own bakery...


Nice idea but I don't think I will like to try that. I mean renting a bakery.

The three locations I mentioned (Ibadan, Ogun and Lagos ) Spaces are available for me there. That's one one major advantage I have.

I am only considering the one that wil favour me most in term of marketing and competitions.

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Re: Thread For Bakery Owners And Intending Owners In Nigeria by Visenya(f): 11:20am On Jan 15, 2019
Hello dear, like I said, I run a home bakery. So basically what I did was change my previous gas cooker which was just 2 burners to a twin oven with 4 burners and one hot plate in the middle of the burners. It's quite a small oven, just like family size but it gets the work done.
I'm planning on getting a bigger one by the end of this month but this one here is exactly what I've been using as a starter.



Hello, please, what kind of oven did you get for 80k?

Kindly reply. Thanks
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Re: Thread For Bakery Owners And Intending Owners In Nigeria by Rebuke: 11:27am On Jan 15, 2019
Whobedatte:
There is this cool guy I met while doing a project for dangote flour last three years
He owns the biggest bakery at Abule egba, Lagos (favourite bread). Makes an average of 20 bags daily.
He told me one secret as how to survive in the business and become a big player .
If you aren't strong (spiritually ) forget bakery business.
Same thing Olowo bakery in kola told me
Any bakery you see doing 30 bags upward daily , forget no be weytin eye see .




Spiritually ke? Lols, abeg o.

I did an oil business a little before I stepped down for some reasons.

Before I started, I heard all manner of thinz but in the end I discovered that every business is usually associated wt some kind of fear n it's natural.

I remember hw I used to hav bad dreams abt my tank falling off, going off in flames etc.
Most times, these dreams occur as a result of all manner of stories I've heard n risks involved in d business. Eventually, I stopped because I can't jxt stand d risk of loosing a tank.

Each time I was xpectin a delivery I would b restless and filled wt fear bcus if such things happens it means millions gone and d funny thin is, yhu'r on yhur own. If yhu don't hav xtra to get yhu another round.....the business is over. The profits in the business is vry attractive bcus after settling yhur escorts and other xpenses yhu still plenty left as profits.

My point is, I don't believe in any spiritual whatever in businesses. It's the tot and stories like this that fuels such fears.

They will b telling yhu to fortify yhur self, do sacrifices etc, in d name of the perceived enemies. Smh, Africans though

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Re: Thread For Bakery Owners And Intending Owners In Nigeria by yarnme2(m): 11:29am On Jan 15, 2019
A passion can be said to propel one...in my involvement at some, I can tell you that I start with so little, because I had a Oven Gas cooker that can take like 5 chunks at a time, until I bought a locally made Oven, constructed the pans, get all the necessary materials, all these was less than 200k. was doing it and selling gradually... My suggestion is you can start any how and grow it. My wife would put it in her car to sale at different Bus Stop...

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Re: Thread For Bakery Owners And Intending Owners In Nigeria by Kenzybaba(m): 11:42am On Jan 15, 2019
I once managed my uncle's bakery.
Location: Nnewi, Anambra State
Like someone said. You'll need at least 5m and a great deal of patient. Most of the equipments are expensive nowadays. You'll have to decide if you want to use electric, gas or firewood ovens

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Re: Thread For Bakery Owners And Intending Owners In Nigeria by Gerrard59(m): 11:47am On Jan 15, 2019
Whobedatte:
There is this cool guy I met while doing a project for dangote flour last three years
He owns the biggest bakery at Abule egba, Lagos (favourite bread). Makes an average of 20 bags daily.
He told me one secret as how to survive in the business and become a big player .
If you aren't strong (spiritually ) forget bakery business.
Same thing Olowo bakery in kola told me
Any bakery you see doing 30 bags upward daily , forget no be weytin eye see .


According to this person, one cannot be successful in doing business in Nigeria unless s/he is spiritually fortified. According to him, it's not the quality of one's product/service but how many spiritual rites one has performed.

A stupid and foolish way to reason!

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Re: Thread For Bakery Owners And Intending Owners In Nigeria by fire4fire: 12:28pm On Jan 15, 2019
I have this bread mixer for sale at giveaway price of 95k... In Portharcourt .contact 08032233854 if interested

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Re: Thread For Bakery Owners And Intending Owners In Nigeria by All4good: 12:30pm On Jan 15, 2019
Rebuke:
Ok, today I was to meet one of the bakery owner and he later cancelled the appointment due an emergency, according to him.

Well, I won't stop till I gather reasonable infor and enough knowledge.


Somehow, this thread is becoming my own diary. Hmmmm.


I didn't create this thread for myself o. If this continues, wll leave the thread but I promise to share pix of my bakery once its opened.

Hope say una go patronise me wella sha. Watch out for me.

Watching out for you. Pray to God to grant you helpers as you step out to do your research. And you will soon testify

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Re: Thread For Bakery Owners And Intending Owners In Nigeria by nevplus(m): 1:11pm On Jan 15, 2019
Time will not permit to say it all,but interns of bakery that is what I do . first it depends on the type of bakery you want to open. We have local and modern bakery.

In modern bakery, you need spiral mixer which the 25kg goes for 400k,half bag deck oven or rotary oven,the former cost 750k and the later 1.5m for half bag.you need generator at least capacity of 20kva to power the spiral mixer,the oven does not require big amount electricity since the deck is powered by cooking gas and rotary powered by diesel.you talk of table,which will cost 50k for stainless and 20k if want wood but stainless is always preferred. For slice bread which weighs 800 gram,you the cup or pan and one cost 200 naira ,so 110 PCs which is required for one bag of flour will cost 22k.

In terms of local bakery,the equipments is totally different: you need steam tube oven which cost 800k for the one that can contain 2bags of flour ,that is 220 loaves,standard slice bread. You need milling machine and lister .both will be connected together with belt and the will cost 450k. Then table and mixing basin ,totalling 30k.with this set up you can do 10 bags of flour a day.

Another thing is packaging; we have digital stereo, local stereo and cylinder. Cylinder cost 120k per colour and you need to design with 3 colours at least .second in order is digital stereo, it cost 50k .you need at least 3 colours for proper design. The last local or rubber stereo, it is 15 k per colour.

Note : there are many things to be said but time will not permit me. I have bakery, I can allows you access to my bakery after serious discussion. You come and witness it yourself not one E book or the other.bakery business is pratical stuff and very serious business .you can chat me on 08063992969 for more details because of time.

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Re: Thread For Bakery Owners And Intending Owners In Nigeria by Nobody: 1:42pm On Jan 15, 2019
Visenya:
First of all, what type of bakery do you intend on opening. Is it just bread, small chops, cakes etc. I suggest you start small. I run a home bakery here in the North and for now, I only make cakes because I'm very good at it. Took me 50k to get all my starter baking equipment from Yola. I got an oven of 80k and Generator of 90k. To be honest when I entered cake house in Jimeta Market, I was confused. I had so much to buy with so little money, I almost cried. But I had to prioritize.
I went for hand mixer 8k instead of the smallest standing mixer there 19k. I got 4 pans, nozzle set, fondant equipment and much more. To be very honest with you I make nothing less than 70k on a very good week and 30 - 45k on a very bad week. I have a lot of customers and I deliver my best.

Now, you have way much capital than me when I started, you can do better. Work with what you have, work within your budget. Anyone telling you, you need mixer or oven of 500k to 1m is not good at giving advice. You can start at home, share flyers along your street and beyond. You will definitely get customers and as time goes on and you expand because you definitely will, you can now start buying sophisticated equipment one at a time.
God bless your hustle
Good afternoon.. Please can I come work for you? In your bakery please.
Re: Thread For Bakery Owners And Intending Owners In Nigeria by Nobody: 1:50pm On Jan 15, 2019
ibrokay:


I don't understand what you mean by premium bread. Forget about all those grammar bro. I have been in the business for more than 3years, quite stressful but rewarding. You will face so many challenges, most baker's will not release their formulas and to get honest staffs and manager is a big challenge. So many things involved. I can even write a book on bakery business now. grin

Good afternoon sir, please can I come work for you in your bakery? Please, thanks..
Re: Thread For Bakery Owners And Intending Owners In Nigeria by melanch(m): 1:54pm On Jan 15, 2019
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Re: Thread For Bakery Owners And Intending Owners In Nigeria by vicky3(m): 3:15pm On Jan 15, 2019
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Re: Thread For Bakery Owners And Intending Owners In Nigeria by collinskoko14: 4:36pm On Jan 15, 2019
Rebuke:




Great. I love the simplicity and neatness of that set up. I will contact you bro.



Hope to hear from you,I love the simplicity of your business idea as well that got my attention.
Re: Thread For Bakery Owners And Intending Owners In Nigeria by donpata(m): 4:59pm On Jan 15, 2019
fire4fire:
I have this bread mixer for sale at giveaway price of 95k... In Portharcourt .contact 08032233854 if interested

What's the capacity and problems
Re: Thread For Bakery Owners And Intending Owners In Nigeria by JohnWriter: 7:49pm On Jan 15, 2019
Few questions;
1. Is it a profitable business considering the cost of flour, sugar, equipment, diesel, gas & other cost elements?
2. What kind of area is suitable to locate the business?

nevplus:
Time will not permit to say it all,but interns of bakery that is what I do . first it depends on the type of bakery you want to open. We have local and modern bakery.

In modern bakery, you need spiral mixer which the 25kg goes for 400k,half bag deck oven or rotary oven,the former cost 750k and the later 1.5m for half bag.you need generator at least capacity of 20kva to power the spiral mixer,the oven does not require big amount electricity since the deck is powered by cooking gas and rotary powered by diesel.you talk of table,which will cost 50k for stainless and 20k if want wood but stainless is always preferred. For slice bread which weighs 800 gram,you the cup or pan and one cost 200 naira ,so 110 PCs which is required for one bag of flour will cost 22k.

In terms of local bakery,the equipments is totally different: you need steam tube oven which cost 800k for the one that can contain 2bags of flour ,that is 220 loaves,standard slice bread. You need milling machine and lister .both will be connected together with belt and the will cost 450k. Then table and mixing basin ,totalling 30k.with this set up you can do 10 bags of flour a day.

Another thing is packaging; we have digital stereo, local stereo and cylinder. Cylinder cost 120k per colour and you need to design with 3 colours at least .second in order is digital stereo, it cost 50k .you need at least 3 colours for proper design. The last local or rubber stereo, it is 15 k per colour.

Note : there are many things to be said but time will not permit me. I have bakery, I can allows you access to my bakery after serious discussion. You come and witness it yourself not one E book or the other.bakery business is pratical stuff and very serious business .you can chat me on 08063992969 for more details because of time.

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Re: Thread For Bakery Owners And Intending Owners In Nigeria by chinnyonwu(m): 10:15pm On Jan 15, 2019
Anyways let me add that we sell baking materials here in aba. Yeast, baking powder, flavours, margarine etc. Delivery available to akwa ibom, portharcout, calabar, umuahia
Re: Thread For Bakery Owners And Intending Owners In Nigeria by Visenya(f): 1:19am On Jan 16, 2019
Awwwn... Trust me, you wouldn't want to be here with me. I'm based in Michika,Adamawa State and would be relocating to Borno State anytime soon. I'm a Medical Lab Scientist too, so whenever duty calls, I must answer plus like I stated earlier, I'm still a starter. Employment will be a later development.
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Good afternoon.. Please can I come work for you? In your bakery please. [/quote]
Re: Thread For Bakery Owners And Intending Owners In Nigeria by khatea: 5:45am On Jan 16, 2019
Rerhoov:
@khatea, i will like to do packaging business with u, lets talk on fone, u can contact me on 07066315789 or drop ur no here

OMG! Ur mention brought me back to this thread. I totally forgot I sed I was gonna ask my client who started a new bakery late last year about what it costed him to set up his bakery. And to think I saw one of d bakery consultants about 12 hours ago #mybad
I'll definitely do today and update d house. I'll call u during the day sir, thank you



Update as regards inquiry! He refused to give prices but only listed machines n items to procure ([mixer, oven, Stainless tables, bread racks, crates, pans, digital weighing machines, 50kg cylinders) telling me to pay 700k consultation fee just to tell me what machines he bought with prices. I give up on him, will ask someone else though

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Re: Thread For Bakery Owners And Intending Owners In Nigeria by Nobody: 10:56am On Jan 16, 2019
Visenya:
Awwwn... Trust me, you wouldn't want to be here with me. I'm based in Michika,Adamawa State and would be relocating to Borno State anytime soon. I'm a Medical Lab Scientist too, so whenever duty calls, I must answer plus like I stated earlier, I'm still a starter. Employment will be a later development.

Okay, thanks
Re: Thread For Bakery Owners And Intending Owners In Nigeria by nevplus(m): 1:05pm On Jan 16, 2019
Yes,it is a profitable business.you are supposed to gain 4k per bag.so multiply by 10 bags,you know what is the answer.

If you are to start in small scale,then I will advice you to open near busy road so that you gain a lot selling fresh bread from oven to passer by.hot bread sells more than hot cake in that kind of place. If you are to start in big scale ,then you need to open it in area where bakery is scarce so that people around will be rushing your product. Make sure produce both big and small size.never underrate the small size,that is where the gain lies.you then use your vehicle to distribute

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Re: Thread For Bakery Owners And Intending Owners In Nigeria by nevplus(m): 1:23pm On Jan 16, 2019
[quote author=Rebuke post=74481344]Ah, I almost forgot o. I have been hearing alot about butterfield and happy chief(Big treat)

I was told their d best in Naija. I have eaten quite a lot of bread already, both inclusive bt I don't want to b the judge.


Please, I want yhur opinion on the taste.



Will you prefer a bread that taste more like the above mentioned or something even better.


I will list more brand later and I will b glad if we all pls drop our opinion.


Though I have my own recipe alrdy, it's a foreign based brand and mine is going to taste so much like it. [/quot








No! Not the best in nija.they are among the best in that part of nija. There are many good bread nation wide.you can't count them.I have tasted Butterfield, the bread is soft but not that tasty even compared to fortunate bread.they use rotary convectional oven.that is y the out look makes sense

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Re: Thread For Bakery Owners And Intending Owners In Nigeria by Nobody: 2:41pm On Jan 16, 2019
make i run small ada for my uncle Incase you need Locally fabricated ovens , It uses steam tubes and can be powered with burner using a small gen or simply use fire woods + 2 years warranty ..PM me

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Re: Thread For Bakery Owners And Intending Owners In Nigeria by EASY39(m): 9:42pm On Jan 16, 2019
Rebuke:



Where's yhur location please? And can I have more infor? I can call yhu if need be.
I leave in iree ,osun state am register member of MASTER BAKER ASS,OSUN STATE a active member ,i benefited from FG food meal call O'MEAL in osun state.08065829541 EASY FUNKY BREAD IREE

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Re: Thread For Bakery Owners And Intending Owners In Nigeria by Hage: 10:09am On Jan 19, 2019
yarnme2:
A passion can be said to propel one...in my involvement at some, I can tell you that I start with so little, because I had a Oven Gas cooker that can take like 5 chunks at a time, until I bought a locally made Oven, constructed the pans, get all the necessary materials, all these was less than 200k. was doing it and selling gradually... My suggestion is you can start any how and grow it. My wife would put it in her car to sale at different Bus Stop...

What's the capacity of your locally made oven? Does it use both gas and electricity?
Re: Thread For Bakery Owners And Intending Owners In Nigeria by Nobody: 11:09am On Jan 19, 2019
Gerrard59:



According to this person, one cannot be successful in doing business in Nigeria unless s/he is spiritually fortified. According to him, it's not the quality of one's product/service but how many spiritual rites one has performed.

A stupid and foolish way to reason!
not stupid or foolish bro.. I manage a bakery and truthfully only God's grace have kept us.. By the time u come out strong taking other peoples customers. Make them have low sales unlike before. Na then u go know say naija people get jazz..

Bakery Bakery Bakery.. Let me gist you something here... Bakeries are folding up this days due to the high competition now.. Everyone is setting up bakery..
The only equipment needed is just a mixer and oven.. Others like pans and tables with your nylons too also ain't cheap so I wonder how people say 750k will set up a bakery that wants to employ labour,pay them and still make money for its owner.. Expenses killed many bakeries that never got it right with its tools before starting... So prayers and good management matters when thinking of coming to our world.

Thanks

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Re: Thread For Bakery Owners And Intending Owners In Nigeria by pafra(m): 11:44am On Jan 19, 2019
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