rvp20183:
Lagos - slumpolis - look at that mess in their CBD.

Old pictures....

Daejoyoung:
Nigeria leads others in increasing number of millionaires population. lf you ask me l'll say this must be cooked data, because Nigeria is the world's poverty capital, and even if it's true then we must convert the % in this report to numbers per capita.

If its not in per capita,its unacceptable

Abuja!!


Everywhere green!

University of Nairobi isn't here

Some morons will soon come and tell us that the ranking isn't credible...

Even if 100 rankings of the top 100 universities in Africa is released, its only Nairobi from the whole Kenya that would be found on the list... ...

Everything Kenya is Nairobi... Take Nairobi out of Kenya and what does it become


https://www.timeshighereducation.com/student/best-universities/best-universities-africa

rvp20183:
You're an idiot. Even a lone terrorist like you have seen in US or Canada or France whose intention is to mow as many unarmed civilian is more dangerous than Boko Haram who are kicking your useless army out of their barracks. Those 6 terrorist targeted that office-hotel complex because it hosted 700 plus people - mostly multinationals - and we did a great job rescuing 700 plus people - and terrorist managed to kill only 20. That is HUGE. In fact the suicide bomber took 5 people. The rest btw the 5 of them each shot dead 3 people only despite being armed to teeth with deadly weapons & explosives because our response was SWIFT. The police guarding the Australian embassy and banks responded very quickly and engaged the shooters. Kenyans also having done emergency drill - knew what to do. The poor Alshabbab had no option except ran to hotel and hide there and wait for their fate. Civilians armed with pistols also didn't wait for Special Forces. The response was incredible and whole thing resolved in 20hrs. Pretty world class if you ask any UN-BIAS commenter.

And the terrorist managed to kill only two foreigners - one briton and one american. They failed spectacularly.

YOU want to compare Westland attack to Florida shooting or France shooting.

I can see you are beginning to cry for mercy
You dare call me a terrorist,for that, I will terrorize and end your life on this thread,you deceitful and pretentious kibera explorer.

You are celebrating an incident that brought gnashing of teeth's and tribulations to entire Kenya.
I told you whites were the ones who were doing most of the job.The Emergency assistance etc.
A British led the whole of the squad and did about half of the job.I saw Kenyan squads jampacking themselves on one side.Some workers from maybe France embassy or so joined in the rescue.

Well the squad tried,but what's there to celebrate. Why shouldn't you be swift to rescue your citizens

You said the terrorist kill only four people,do you think we are in the stone age,as at the next day of the attack or thereabout,Uhuru confirmed 14 or 15 people dead.Some sources say more than that

Now talk like the intelligent person they called you.If you call me idiot again,you face the brunt.

Go get a life and believe that God only can help.No Educational or physchological mentality can help you.

rvp20183:
Lagos - slumpolis - look at that mess in their CBD.

Inferiority will ravage you 1.day.The huge population of Lagos is something worrisome that this kind of thing won't hesitate to happen.

Now run to Google and tell Google to give you latest pictures, if its new,you will see the light rail that passes the City.
The CBD is better planned with wide roads than Nairobi's freakish CBD.

Lagos Island CBD isn't the bomb again,you know the bomb now

rvp20183:
First what big deal about Abuja or Lagos - Boko Haram are killing Nigerians every week - both civilian and army - and have send nearly 10M off their settlement as refugeees.

Why would they bother attack Abuja or Lagos when they control most of North East. Alshaabab use to leave Kenya alone when they controlled large swatches of Somali and had governors, levied taxes and the works. They only resorted to cowardly terror tactics when Kenya forces went for them. Otherwise they were busy fighting Somali gov in conventional warfar.

The day Boko haram is weaken - and they are far from being weaken - I think this year if you count the atrocities - it probably a thousands plus dead and hundrend thousands displaced - then they will resort to guerrilla warfare and will employ suicide bombers & the works. But they are so strong in North East - the scared Nigeria army abandon posts and barracks - and ran on their sighting.

Right now Boko haram are actually fighting a near conventional war with Nigeria army and winning. They have tanks, rocket propelled grenades and name it - they are like a rebel forces trying to overtake the gov.

Which majority of North East do they control. They are not 5 out of 6 states. They are only in Lake Chad fringes of borno state

rvp20183:
Who said they counted. What count is the profit they repartiare back as return on investments. Otherwise the manufacturing, the jobs and taxes will remain in those countries. Which is why countries invite foreign investors.

Dangote Ghana manufacturing is Ghana. Uniliver Nigeria is Nigerian. When Yemi Kale is calculating the size of Nigeria manufacturing - he will only include Dangote Manufacturing figures for Nigeria - unless he was a slowpoke.

You guys are so daft basic concepts escape you.

It seems you are intrigued by that name. You never cease an opportunity to mention it

rvp20183:
Good - but it appears BK & all those ISWA - are displacing thousands every week in North East - and here you claim they have been banished to Sambiza forests.

North East comprises of 6 states. Boko Haram doesn't displace anybody in North East but only Northern borno.There is nothing like Boko Haram in Taraba, bauchi and the likes

Daejoyoung:

Actually we do not pray for such, but what you should know is that Borno State has Sambisa forest at it's border which cuts across Cameroon and Chad, that border is porous, and Sambisa forest is more than twice the size of Lagos City, the major problem with BokoHaram issue is the failure of the Government in utilizing Sambisa or tightening the ever porous borders, this is why the North Eastern state of Borno and the surrounding Sambisa is a continous battle because there are also foreign West African factions and groups that comes from Chad and elsewhere to combine forces with BokoHaram in Sambisa.
BokoHaram is just one name, there are other factions like lSWAP( Islamic West African group), who dwell around the lake Chad and attack villages in Borno at once in their hundreds.

The fact that you, a civilian, can clearly see the incompetence of your government in dealing with Boko Haram should be enough to stop you from criticizing any other country's government's handling of terrorists.

Daejoyoung:

Also Boko Haram advanced to Abuja and the middle belt in the past and were coming down south, so they actually wanted to frustrate the Government.

Whatever way you look at it, your government has failed to contain Boko Haram.

theenchanter:
...... U're d one who's using ambiguous terms n it's obviously because u don't know what u're talking about, u're only here to prove a non-existent point. Read ur post below.


Now, my question is..... How do u calculate d manufacturing sector of a country without MVA?

how's d asset of companies tantamount to d worth of manufacturing industry cos if that's d case, dangote group of companies should dwarf d 5 biggest manufacturing companies in Kenya.

You're just beating around the bush. I guess you learned the word MVA today now you're so glad to use it. You've realized how stupid you were to think manufacturing per capita makes no sense and now you're just using diversion tactics.

Replace worth of manufacturing in my initial point.

NairobiWalker:



Yea, like life expectancy is not measured per capita and that's why we just list it here but manufacturing per capita is in order. Nigeria with 200M people cannot boast of having an MVA of $4 billion. In fact with that value they are grossly underperforming. However if a country like Djibout with 950k people or Mauritius with 1.3 million people had that MVA, they would definitely rank as the most industrialized country in Africa. If you can't understand that then I don't know what to say about Nigeria's education system.

You're another Kazikazi. Enrol in English Comprehension classes. And then come & engage me in your puerile talk.

We can read your infantile and nihilist rage after the terrorists you were cheering failed and Kenya reaffirm it's coming of age as mature & respected nation.

You were praying for the worst - but Nairobi demonstrated it very best.

Kenya's feared Isreali trained RECCE SQUAD quickly dispatched your friends to Allah! And saved 700 innocent souls. The cock up in West Gate was caused by Army Commandos shooting a RECCE Squad member dead and they all pulled out. This time everything was meticulous.


And went to have tea in State house less than 24hrs since the crisis started.

samsobo24:
YOU want to compare Westland attack to Florida shooting or France shooting.

I can see you are beginning to cry for mercy
You dare call me a terrorist,for that, I will terrorize and end your life on this thread,you deceitful and pretentious kibera explorer.

You are celebrating an incident that brought gnashing of teeth's and tribulations to entire Kenya.
I told you whites were the ones who were doing most of the job.The Emergency assistance etc.
A British led the whole of the squad and did about half of the job.I saw Kenyan squads jampacking themselves on one side.Some workers from maybe France embassy or so joined in the rescue.

Well the squad tried,but what's there to celebrate. Why shouldn't you be swift to rescue your citizens

You said the terrorist kill only four people,do you think we are in the stone age,as at the next day of the attack or thereabout,Uhuru confirmed 14 or 15 people dead.Some sources say more than that

Now talk like the intelligent person they called you.If you call me idiot again,you face the brunt.

Go get a life and believe that God only can help.No Educational or physchological mentality can help you.

Show me new pictures...

Danielnino00:



Old pictures....

Finally Nigeria found one index that shows Ibandan is better Nairobi. This THE ranking has been pasted here so many times. You know there are other university ranking out there.

This Kind of desperation leave it to TZ - who will keep any wild card ranking that show them ahead of Kenya in anything.

Danielnino00:
University of Nairobi isn't here

Some morons will soon come and tell us that the ranking isn't credible...

Even if 100 rankings of the top 100 universities in Africa is released, its only Nairobi from the whole Kenya that would be found on the list... ...

Everything Kenya is Nairobi... Take Nairobi out of Kenya and what does it become


https://www.timeshighereducation.com/student/best-universities/best-universities-africa

theenchanter:
those attacks can never happen in Abuja or Lagos, terrorists attack can only happen in far away northeast.

But if it happens in Abuja, it'll take less than 3hrs before it's tamed.

Keep fooling yourself. Developed European & American cities get attacked what of lowly Abuja and Lagos?...

TayserMahri:


Keep fooling yourself. Developed European & American cities get attacked what of lowly Abuja and Lagos?...

lf you know that even Europeans and America finds it hard to subdue terrorists then why do you and other Africans mock Nigeria over BokoHaram?
Five to Six years ago, Abuja also wasn't that safe from Boko Haram just like Nairobi isn't safe from Alshabaab currently.

Daejoyoung:

lf you know that even Europeans and America finds it hard to subdue terrorists then why do you and other Africans mock Nigeria over BokoHaram?
Five to Six years ago, Abuja also wasn't that safe from Boko Haram just like Nairobi isn't safe from Alshabaab currently.

Then tell your friend to stop being foolish. A terror attack would happen anywhere in the world.

...

Kenya Unbowed....

Six Reece Officers divided themselves into three three groups.

Three to head inside the building and three to head to probably towards another entrance/exit of the building.

The whole perimeter must be secured! Anyone going in or out the scene of operation must be checked! The officers must spread out to cover more ground. This are the important basics done by Special Forces that one can quickly deduce from studying such a picture!

rvp20183:
You're another Kazikazi. Enrol in English Comprehension classes. And then come & engage me in your puerile talk.

We can read your infantile and nihilist rage after the terrorists you were cheering failed and Kenya reaffirm it's coming of age as mature & respected nation.

You were praying for the worst - but Nairobi demonstrated it very best.

Kenya's feared Isreali trained RECCE SQUAD quickly dispatched your friends to Allah! And saved 700 innocent souls. The cock up in West Gate was caused by Army Commandos shooting a RECCE Squad member dead and they all pulled out. This time everything was meticulous.


And went to have tea in State house less than 24hrs since the crisis started.

How Kenya's Elite Recce Squad trapped and eliminated terrorists

Events during the final one hour when 14 commandos killed four terrorists at dawn Wednesday, ending a 12-hour terror drama at the 14 Riverside complex, have been revealed.

This followed a drawn-out crisis that started when the terrorists took over the upscale complex at 3pm on Tuesday. By 3am the following day, the special forces had combed through six floors before trapping the attackers.

Remote Controlled Robots
Backed by remote-controlled surveillance equipment that was used to map out the floors the attackers were suspected to be holed up, the commandos finally established that the killers were on the seventh floor.

At this point, the two commando units with seven members each, were on the third floor and were solely relying on a robot that had gone up to the sixth floor and located the militants on the upper floor based on electronic signals. Swiftly, one team ran up the stairs and locked the exit leading to the sixth floor. They held their positions on the fifth floor.

Power supply
All this time the commandos had switched off the power supply to the entire building to disable the lifts.
The second team of seven sharpshooters used ropes to scale the sides of the building and accessed the seventh floor through a window.
Their entry forced the terrorists, who were at one far end, to try retreating to the sixth floor, but they realised the door leading to the staircase had been locked.

The terrorists were now sitting ducks
At the same time, members of the National Security Advisory Committee (NSAC), who were monitoring developments from Harambee House, were updated on what had just transpired.
The committee sought to know whether all the terrorists had been cornered.
After being informed of the killers’ whereabouts, the NSAC advised that all the people who had been trapped in the adjacent blocks be freed.
“It was dark and we knew the floor where they were trapped was up there. We moved to the other blocks and managed to free 174 people who had been trapped for close to 12 hours,” said an official.

The team felt that waiting until morning to mount a rescue operation would endanger the lives of those who were trapped because the terrorists would see their movements and strike.

After freeing all the people, a decision was made to make a final push and target where the gang was hiding.
Interestingly, some of the terrorists were communicating with people in Kiambu and Somalia. It is believed their commander was the one talking with Shabaab militants across the border.
He even sent images of victims of the attack to unidentified people in Somalia. He had also talked to a man in Ruaka at the beginning of the attack.
An idea to jam communication at the complex was floated, but some commanders rejected it.

Jam communication
“We felt that by blocking communication we would cause panic among those trapped therein and who were in touch with their loved ones. This idea was defeated and the jammer removed from the scene,” said another official.
At about 4 am, a decision was made to storm the room where the four terrorists were. They had been trapped for some time and the commandos were confident that they were worn out.
The team that was on the seventh floor was in constant communication with their colleagues on the fifth floor. This first team charged first, blowing up the entrance to the sixth floor and into a room where the killers holed
Those at the front held up bulletproof shields as their colleagues sprayed the room with high calibre assault rifles.
In a matter of seconds, the four assailants had been killed. But they had tossed grenades at the officers, which bounced off the shields and back to them. When the grenades exploded, they injured two commandos in the legs.
The injured officers were picked up by their colleagues and are in stable condition in hospital.
The team, through their site commander General Service Unit Commandant Douglas Kanja, reported that the mission was complete.
They allowed other teams to walk through the floors and check for abandoned explosives. Yesterday, one grenade was recovered and taken away for safe detonation.
It also emerged that the decision to deploy the special forces from Recce Squad was made during the initial moments of the attack.
After learning that there were gunshots at the complex, Deputy Inspector General of Police Edward Njoroge was asked to mobilise and put on standby a team to respond to the scene. The initial report and belief was that the attack was a robbery targeting a bank.
But after locals heard huge blasts emanating from the complex, they made calls and sent photos that showed smoke billowing from the complex.
That was when the Recce team was dispatched from Ruiru. Earlier, State House had sent personnel from the presidential guard to provide backup to officers who were first to arrive at the scene. One member of the team was shot and killed by the terrorists.
The response was swift, with Mr Njoroge and Director of Criminal Investigations George Kinoti taking charge of the operation and Kanja overseeing the active evacuation.
Foreign embassies
Teams from the US, UK and other foreign embassies joined the battle, also providing crucial logistical support.
They helped free dozens of trapped people even as they pushed the terrorists to the upper floors. CCTV footage showed a suicide bomber had walked to the front of the restaurant and detonated his vest, causing confusion. It is not clear how he passed through a security check at the main entrance without the explosive on him being detected.
The terrorist walked and stood in front of Secret Garden restaurant for almost a minute as he tried to detonate his suicide vest. At least two people, including a cook, walked past him. The cook seemed curious about the man’s intentions but walked past him just before he blew himself up.
This marked the beginning of the attack, forcing the building’s occupants to seek escape routes. They were, however, forced to retreat into the building as they came under fire by the gunmen who were then walking away from the main entrance.
A witness, Faith Chepchirchir, said people were trying to run towards the gate after the blast went off, but they turn back.
“I saw everyone who was running towards the gate heading back in the opposite direction. We then closed the doors as bullets were sprayed all over.”
She said the gunmen went to the hotel and took an upper floor, from where they started firing down.
Many civilians remained holed up in the complex for several hours, hiding from the attackers in bathrooms, under tables and chairs, before they were rescued.

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001309822/inside-last-one-hour-to-crush-terrorists

I've seen the damn deliberations on this matter
but this situation is about two different aspects
Boko Haram and alshabab attacks.
no. 1 is that the Kenyan situation was an attack on a dedicated settlement. but Boko Haram is waging a war against Nigeria.
no. 2 is that the environmental stance of occurance. I'm aware that Kenya's attack was in a city. but Nigeria's is in a sort of desert kind of environment. fears of buried mines, movement difficulties and others.
I strongly propose that had Kenya been in Nigeria shoes they would have performed terribly.
why?
because they have not even fought a single war before. and coupled with the stance that kenya doesn't have equal military hardware or men compared with nigeria
they are bereaft of experience in wars, diminished hardware and technology.
on Nigeria's part, I think its a political situation explaining why they haven't thumped Boko Haram out since all these years.

TayserMahri:
Wednesday Night in Hell

I wonder why the illiterate terrorists don't ask themselves what happens after the virgins have been successfully disvirgined.. .. Do those virgins grow a new hymen everyday or what

edon21:
I've seen the damn deliberations on this matter
but this situation is about two different aspects
Boko Haram and alshabab attacks.
no. 1 is that the Kenyan situation was an attack on a dedicated settlement. but Boko Haram is waging a war against Nigeria.
no. 2 is that the environmental stance of occurance. I'm aware that Kenya's attack was in a city. but Nigeria's is in a sort of desert kind of environment. fears of buried mines, movement difficulties and others.
I strongly propose that had Kenya been in Nigeria shoes they would have performed terribly.
why?
because they have not even fought a single war before. and coupled with the stance that kenya doesn't have equal military hardware or men compared with nigeria
they are bereaft of experience in wars, diminished hardware and technology.
on Nigeria's part, I think its a political situation explaining why they haven't thumped Boko Haram out since all these years.

So Kenya fighting Alshabaab in Somalia for 9yrs now is not war.Kicking Alshabab for more than 1000kms in rough somali territory and overthrowing them in Kusmayu is not war.Alshabaab who are mored deadly than BokoHaram.You idiots make strange accusations.its not about how many men or weapon..it's about the discpline and dedication..Boko Haram cannot survive in Chad army coz Chad kick arse.Nigeria army is corrupt.The political northern elite are in same mission with Boko Haram.

edon21:
I've seen the damn deliberations on this matter
but this situation is about two different aspects
Boko Haram and alshabab attacks.
no. 1 is that the Kenyan situation was an attack on a dedicated settlement. but Boko Haram is waging a war against Nigeria.
no. 2 is that the environmental stance of occurance. I'm aware that Kenya's attack was in a city. but Nigeria's is in a sort of desert kind of environment. fears of buried mines, movement difficulties and others.
I strongly propose that had Kenya been in Nigeria shoes they would have performed terribly.
why?
because they have not even fought a single war before. and coupled with the stance that kenya doesn't have equal military hardware or men compared with nigeria
they are bereaft of experience in wars, diminished hardware and technology.
on Nigeria's part, I think its a political situation explaining why they haven't thumped Boko Haram out since all these years.

You have said nothing at all

but if I may ask, can Kenya stand Nigeria in stance of a war? answer me honestly. no insults. I'm not advocating for any side. I'm an American
so I have nothing to lose

and also remember that Kenya wasn't the main target of alshabab ..

edon21:
but if I may ask, can Kenya stand Nigeria in stance of a war? answer me honestly. no insults. I'm not advocating for any side. I'm an American
so I have nothing to lose

Fighting over what and where.The purpose of army is to defend the country against external aggression.Nigeria strength and usefulness to Nigerians is how they fight Boko Haram and maybe Cameron over the disputed areas.Kenya faces a threat from Somalia Alshabaab and we have take the fight to their country.The hypothetical strength of an army is an academic exercise.Look at Ethiopia with possible bigger ground troops than Nigeria but they got whooped by Eritrea.They lost the sea and became landlocked.Eritrea is very tiny but they fought with their life's.Look at Rwanda..those tusti numbering maybe 20k strong kick Congo..country maybe 3 times Nigeria in size..they walked all the way from Kigali to Kinshasa and installed their puppet.They fought like their life depended on it.An army like Nigeria which has been described in similar terms like Mali..too cowardly to fight..can be over thrown by Chad.Chad kicked Libya so hard and yet Libya had all the weapons you can imagine.Nigeria lost to Cameroon.

rvp2018:
So Kenya fighting Alshabaab in Somalia for 9yrs now is not war.Kicking Alshabab for more than 1000kms in rough somali territory and overthrowing them in Kusmayu is not war.Alshabaab who are mored deadly than BokoHaram.You idiots make strange accusations.its not about how many men or weapon..it's about the discpline and dedication..Boko Haram cannot survive in Chad army coz Chad kick arse.Nigeria army is corrupt.The political northern elite are in same mission with Boko Haram.

you called me an idiot right. now let's get to know how much you know about military combat.
tell me, if you are one of their army chiefs. what recommendation would you have proposed in a war around the borders of your neighbor with strained relationship with you?

[quote author=rvp2018 post=74887642] Fighting over what and where.The purpose of army is to defend the country against external aggression.Nigeria strength and usefulness to Nigerians is how they fight Boko Haram and maybe Cameron over the disputed areas.Kenya faces a threat from Somalia Alshabaab and we have take the fight to their country.The hypothetical strength of an army is an academic exercise.Look at Ethiopia with possible bigger ground troops than Nigeria but they got whooped by Eritrea.They lost the sea and became landlocked.Eritrea is very tiny but they fought with their life's.Look at Rwanda..those tusti numbering maybe 20k strong kick Congo..country maybe 3 times Nigeria in size..they walked all the way from Kigali to Kinshasa and installed their puppet.They fought like their life depended on it.An army like Nigeria which has been described in similar terms like Mali..too cowardly to fight..can be over thrown by Chad.Chad kicked Libya so hard and yet Libya had all the weapons you can imagine.Nigeria lost to Cameroon.[/quote

what I want is a simple answer. will you prevail? yes or no ?