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Re: Homosexuality by NPComplete: 10:04pm On Jan 26, 2019 |
Ranchhoddas: This is where the problem is. How do we prove that there is a man somewhere who has been really cured of homosexuality beyond reasonable doubt? That's my point. |
Re: Homosexuality by princy80(m): 10:07pm On Jan 26, 2019 |
bloodofthelamb: You are deluded... No spirit began anything. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Homosexuality by Ranchhoddas: 10:11pm On Jan 26, 2019 |
NPComplete:We have to prove beyond reasonable doubt first that homosexuality is natural. |
Re: Homosexuality by bloodofthelamb(m): 10:15pm On Jan 26, 2019 |
princy80:Your opinion though. |
Re: Homosexuality by Ranchhoddas: 10:15pm On Jan 26, 2019 |
tintingz:It's like asking me why cancer happens in Saudi Arabia? An anomaly can occur anywhere regardless of the prevailing conditions. Same-sex attraction, attraction to little kids, animals etc. 1 Like |
Re: Homosexuality by Ranchhoddas: 10:18pm On Jan 26, 2019 |
LordReed:He said "if". Why did you not highlight it? It means that he is not certain that the expectation is unrealistic? People are also attracted to kids? Is it natural? What's the difference? |
Re: Homosexuality by Ranchhoddas: 10:19pm On Jan 26, 2019 |
tintingz:Ridiculous. Where are the stories abeg? |
Re: Homosexuality by LordReed(m): 10:35pm On Jan 26, 2019 |
Ranchhoddas: He is certain, look at his following statements. He clearly states that the expectation is the desires won't go away. He even states that he stands by this definition. Yes pedophilia is natural, meaning it arises from the same place all our desires arise from but unlike homosexuality the object of attraction cannot be trusted to consent like an adult can. Same thing with animals and corpses, no consent from a capable consenting agent. 1 Like |
Re: Homosexuality by Ranchhoddas: 10:39pm On Jan 26, 2019 |
LordReed:So according to you, it is natural to want to get down with a corpse. 2 Likes
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Re: Homosexuality by tintingz(m): 10:40pm On Jan 26, 2019 |
Ranchhoddas:Google and search for homosexuals who are depressed being heterosexual but feel happy when they are homosexual. |
Re: Homosexuality by tintingz(m): 10:41pm On Jan 26, 2019 |
Ranchhoddas:Is this natural or not? |
Re: Homosexuality by Ranchhoddas: 10:43pm On Jan 26, 2019 |
tintingz:Like cancer, it is abnormal. It serves no productive purpose. |
Re: Homosexuality by Ranchhoddas: 10:45pm On Jan 26, 2019 |
Lordreed, what about attraction to one's own mother. Is that also normal?
I want to know how far you can take your liberalness. |
Re: Homosexuality by tintingz(m): 10:45pm On Jan 26, 2019 |
LordReed:Lol. Monks are cured from having sexual relationship. |
Re: Homosexuality by tintingz(m): 10:47pm On Jan 26, 2019 |
Ranchhoddas:Simple question you're not answering. Is it natural or not? 1 Like |
Re: Homosexuality by Ranchhoddas: 10:51pm On Jan 26, 2019 |
tintingz:It's not |
Re: Homosexuality by tintingz(m): 10:53pm On Jan 26, 2019 |
Re: Homosexuality by Ranchhoddas: 10:55pm On Jan 26, 2019 |
Has any of you heard the word pica? It's a medical condition where sufferers develop an appetite for non-edible things; glass, wood. wood, stone, metal etc. Is this not an unnatural desire. With therapy they can go back to desiring normal food. How is it different from homosexual desires? LordReed Tintingz Muttleylaff |
Re: Homosexuality by Ranchhoddas: 10:57pm On Jan 26, 2019 |
tintingz:We don't. But we understand that some things do not follow the natural order for reasons we do not know yet. 1 Like |
Re: Homosexuality by LordReed(m): 11:18pm On Jan 26, 2019 |
Ranchhoddas: Unless you know of another way our desires arise it is from natural causes. Or you believe in demons and spirits? Even animals do necrophilia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-reproductive_sexual_behavior_in_animals |
Re: Homosexuality by hahn(m): 11:19pm On Jan 26, 2019 |
johnydon22: Well exactly because in this case whether I think it is right or wrong doesn't matter. But that is not the aim of the op is it? |
Re: Homosexuality by LordReed(m): 11:20pm On Jan 26, 2019 |
Ranchhoddas: I think you need to define what you mean by natural and unnatural because your usage may be different from mine. 1 Like |
Re: Homosexuality by LordReed(m): 11:26pm On Jan 26, 2019 |
Ranchhoddas: What has liberal got to do with this? Desires as far as we know arise from natural processes so may be you need to define how you are using natural and unnatural. Normal on the other hand is a whole different ball game because now we are talking of what we perceive should be the consensus course of the human experience. In my view natural and normal are not the same thing. For example it is natural to eat but everybody agrees it won't be normal to eat while giving a speech. |
Re: Homosexuality by Gggg102(m): 11:32pm On Jan 26, 2019 |
Ranchhoddas: These 'cures' are dubious. Mostly forced conversion therapy that uses torture till the victim has no other option than to be 'cured'. Same with how parents 'cured' left handedness. Or how Nigerian police torture innocent victims till they confess to a crime they never committed. 2 Likes |
Re: Homosexuality by Gggg102(m): 11:37pm On Jan 26, 2019 |
Nwaikuku2: You don't force your religious belief of others. 1 Like |
Re: Homosexuality by tintingz(m): 12:19am On Jan 27, 2019 |
Ranchhoddas:What do you say about natural disaster? Dude nature doesn't need to have purpose. Yawning for example is natural but we don't even know it purpose yet or why we yawn. We don't know what cause sexual orientation, talkless of being gay. I think it is fallacious to conclude homosexual is unnatural when we have millions, billions of natural phenomena we don't even know their causes and purpose. 2 Likes |
Re: Homosexuality by tintingz(m): 12:28am On Jan 27, 2019 |
Ranchhoddas:Pica is considered a mental disorder, there are very little biological findings in it. Homosexuality is part of sexual orientation and we don't fully understand this phenomena. |
Re: Homosexuality by Ranchhoddas: 12:28am On Jan 27, 2019 |
Gggg102:That's what you tell yourself. |
Re: Homosexuality by Ranchhoddas: 12:30am On Jan 27, 2019 |
tintingz:Is it natural? |
Re: Homosexuality by tintingz(m): 12:35am On Jan 27, 2019 |
Ranchhoddas:Like i said pica has very little biological findings, it is consider a mental disorder. Homosexuality has biological factors and two other factors, we still fully don't understand why people are gay just like how we don't fully understand why we yawn. Nature doesn't have to be positive or purposeful, nature is nature and there's nothing we can do about it. |
Re: Homosexuality by princy80(m): 12:39am On Jan 27, 2019 |
bloodofthelamb:Yeah... Just like you have yours. |
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