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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 9:50am On Feb 01, 2019
bazooka1:



You guys give Guardiola too much credit for the development of Diaz, Foden and Zinchenko.
Man city spent over £200 million on their ultra morden academy. They didn't spend that much on facilities alone just for keep sake.
Even at that, none of these guys have breached the Man city first eleven and Diaz have since left for Real Madrid who do not consider him ready for first team football.

Diaz left for Real Madrid should tell you alot, He did not left for Rayo Vallecano he did not left for stoke city but he left for almighty real madrid

Give guardiola a credit for that, if you dont then i think you are trying to be bias despite you made some point with some of your words

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 9:54am On Feb 01, 2019
Mickael2:


You know they will start saying that he already played in division 2 blah blah blah. Because I should add Sane who was not exactly half as good as he is now back then at Schalke

What about sterling who was a 49 million pounds headless chicken before pep arrived? even nacho outscored sterling during pellegrini reign, but now sterling is a winger who will gurantee you 20 epl goals per season.

I think sterling is now a world class player under guardiola

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by SlayerForever: 10:45am On Feb 01, 2019
Danielnino00:
Akpeyi trouser self grin


That's an awesome wear, what are you on about?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 10:50am On Feb 01, 2019
SlayerForever:



That's an awesome wear, what are you on about?

Wearing a jersey on top of a native wear should be punishable by death
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by bazooka1: 10:52am On Feb 01, 2019
andrew444:


Diaz left for Real Madrid should tell you alot, He did not left for Rayo Vallecano he did not left for stoke city but he left for almighty real madrid

Give guardiola a credit for that, if you dont then i think you are trying to be bias despite you made some point with some of your words
I hope you understand Guardiola is not the coach of the Man city reserves and academy? He is the first team manager.
Those youth team coaches do the heavy lifting to prepare and train/teach these boys.

Guardiola gets the credit when these guys graduate to the first team proper and turn into class players for the club.

Diaz was bought by Real Madrid because of his exploits in the city academy. He hasn't done nada for the city first team.
How Guardiola gets credit for this is incomprehensible.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by bazooka1: 10:56am On Feb 01, 2019
andrew444:


What about sterling who was a 49 million pounds headless chicken before pep arrived? even nacho outscored sterling during pellegrini reign, but now sterling is a winger who will gurantee you 20 epl goals per season.

I think sterling is now a world class player under guardiola
This is not true. Sterling/Suarez partnership was a Gerrard slip away from the Premiership title.
Calling him a headless chicken is abit over board.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 10:59am On Feb 01, 2019
bazooka1:

I hope you understand Guardiola is not the coach of the Man city reserves and academy? He is the first team manager.
Those youth team coaches do the heavy lifting to prepare and train/teach these boys.

Guardiola gets the credit when these guys graduate to the first team proper and turn into class players for the club.

Diaz was bought by Real Madrid because of his exploits in the city academy. He hasn't done nada for the city first team.
How Guardiola gets credit for this is incomprehensible.


Understood

But a little kudos should be given to guardiola for giving him first team appearance

Many players in the Academy of such big club rot there in the reserve team and later ended up at the championship

No b academy games go make Madrid pay about 20 million for the boy ,shebi na from Qpr Liverpool buy Raheem sterling and na 1 million pounds ,just making an example .

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 11:03am On Feb 01, 2019
bazooka1:

This is not true. Sterling/Suarez partnership was a Gerrard slip away from the Premiership title.
Calling him a headless chicken is abit over board.

I am not telling you of sterling at Liverpool.

I am telling you of sterling of mancity first 2 seasons before pep arrive ,the guy was crap he didn't live up to the things they saw at Liverpool till guardiola arrived ,go and check the stats and see for your self

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 11:04am On Feb 01, 2019
SlayerForever:



That's an awesome wear, what are you on about?


Wearing Ankara shorts on top the official club jersey during his unveiling is pretty awesome I agree grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:35am On Feb 01, 2019
bazooka1:



You guys give Guardiola too much credit for the development of Diaz, Foden and Zinchenko.
Man city spent over £200 million on their ultra morden academy. They didn't spend that much on facilities alone just for keep sake.
Even at that, none of these guys have breached the Man city first eleven and Diaz have since left for Real Madrid who do not consider him ready for first team football.

Diaz has already made his debut for Madrid and it is a long season with Madrid still in the hunt for all three trophies he will get a lot more minutes so I don't know why you think Madrid do not consider him good enough for the first team.

That Man City academy was there when Mancini took over, how many players did he and Manuel Pelligrini promote? Kudos to Pelligrini for promoting Nacho, but that's about it.

By the way a season is a long long period, so long as you are in the first team you are vital. Zinchenko has been absolutely immense, at some point Delph was suspended and with Mendy injured Zinchenko played and was brilliant. Foden has started a lot games. So too Diaz. When Mendy got injured other clubs would have gone all out to buy another left back instead Pep converted Delph and promoted a B team player. I am not sure what you are on about but if you think Guardiola's success is down to money then you have not been following him at all.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:36am On Feb 01, 2019
andrew444:


I am not telling you of sterling at Liverpool.

I am telling you of sterling of mancity first 2 seasons before pep arrive ,the guy was crap he didn't live up to the things they saw at Liverpool till guardiola arrived ,go and check the stats and see for your self

Dude was not even that good at Liverpool. It was actually Suarez/Sturridge combo that kept Liverpool ticking not Sterling
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:39am On Feb 01, 2019
bazooka1:

This is not true. Sterling/Suarez partnership was a Gerrard slip away from the Premiership title.
Calling him a headless chicken is abit over board.

And Sturridge was in the background frying akara all along abi? Back then Sterling was just any other player in Liverpool while Suarez and Sturridge took all the headlines

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:48am On Feb 01, 2019
Mickael2:


Dude was not even that good at Liverpool. It was actually Suarez/Sturridge combo that kept Liverpool ticking not Sterling



The same Sterling that kept Victor Moses out of the team?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 12:26pm On Feb 01, 2019
Mickael2:


Dude was not even that good at Liverpool. It was actually Suarez/Sturridge combo that kept Liverpool ticking not Sterling


Agreed
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 12:32pm On Feb 01, 2019
BascoVanVeli:




The same Sterling that kept Victor Moses out of the team?

You expect victor moses to bench sterling that he met there abi ? Someone that is overrated by the British media abi ,home grown talent for that matter .
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by bazooka1: 12:42pm On Feb 01, 2019
Mickael2:


Diaz has already made his debut for Madrid and it is a long season with Madrid still in the hunt for all three trophies he will get a lot more minutes so I don't know why you think Madrid do not consider him good enough for the first team.

That Man City academy was there when Mancini took over, how many players did he and Manuel Pelligrini promote? Kudos to Pelligrini for promoting Nacho, but that's about it.

By the way a season is a long long period, so long as you are in the first team you are vital. Zinchenko has been absolutely immense, at some point Delph was suspended and with Mendy injured Zinchenko played and was brilliant. Foden has started a lot games. So too Diaz. When Mendy got injured other clubs would have gone all out to buy another left back instead Pep converted Delph and promoted a B team player. I am not sure what you are on about but if you think Guardiola's success is down to money then you have not been following him at all.

Diaz made his debut in Copa de Rey after which Madrid technical team came out that he wasn't ready yet for first team football and suggested that he sent on loan.
I haven't checked if he was sent on loan yesterday, so that's about it.

On the injury to Mendy, do you know Guardiola has spent almost 160million on full backs since he took over at Man city? He was bound to search for internal solution at some point, especially when Mendy got injured.

Which ever way you look at it, money has been the name of the game. Look at Liverpool since Klopp took over. He has managed to clear out the dross like Ibe, Lucas, Benteke and the likes and replaced them with about £400m worth of asset and their trajectory has since gone up from 10th place to first place, a Europa final and champions league final. Potentially English champions.

I don't begrudge them of buying their success because they worked for it. They recruited wisely and had resellable assets like Coutinho and Suarez whom they sold and reinvested in their team.

Man city on their part, went black water and gamed the system, broke financial fair play rules and voala!

Money have been a massive factor in Guardiola and Man city's success. No one can deny that.
They are currently second in the league because someone have out spent them in the close season.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 12:46pm On Feb 01, 2019
BascoVanVeli:




The same Sterling that kept Victor Moses out of the team?

Sterling wasn't that good at Liverpool jare. His end product back then were poor...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 12:47pm On Feb 01, 2019
andrew444:


I am not telling you of sterling at Liverpool.

I am telling you of sterling of mancity first 2 seasons before pep arrive ,the guy was crap he didn't live up to the things they saw at Liverpool till guardiola arrived ,go and check the stats and see for your self
He wasn't crap...just inconsistent. The difference between Sterling now and then is his finishing and I guess getting into scoring positions.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 1:01pm On Feb 01, 2019
edi287:

He wasn't crap...just inconsistent. The difference between Sterling now and then is his finishing and I guess getting into scoring positions.

Oga he was crap ,which finishing be the difference ? Na na musa dey play like that say una no go cause am ni ,you dey use inconstitent as excuse ,pep really turn that guy to a world class player

No ball control poor decision making.check him under pep dribbles everything are top notch ,he even have been assisting so many goals at city

It took him 2 seasons to Live up to the expectations at city if na African player dem go don run dey call am flop
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by SlayerForever: 1:07pm On Feb 01, 2019
Danielnino00:



Wearing Ankara shorts on top the official club jersey during his unveiling is pretty awesome I agree grin

The ankara trouser is quality. I thought you were shading the material.




As for the combination with the jersey lipsrsealed
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 1:11pm On Feb 01, 2019
BascoVanVeli:




The same Sterling that kept Victor Moses out of the team?

Good God, which decent player wouldn't keep VicMo out of the team during that period that he was plagued by injuries? At West Ham a host of players also kept Sterling on the bench.

By the way the point is that Sterling was the dispensable part of that front three. Of all the strikers and midfielders in the team he had the least influence
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by SlayerForever: 1:12pm On Feb 01, 2019
Earthquake1:


Wearing a jersey on top of a native wear should be punishable by death


Stay undercover. Barca agents are still prowling the streets.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 1:12pm On Feb 01, 2019
andrew444:


You expect victor moses to bench sterling that he met there abi ? Someone that is overrated by the British media abi ,home grown talent for that matter .

And VicMo was having serious injury concerns then. It is natural that hr would find it difficult to get back to the team.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 1:14pm On Feb 01, 2019
SlayerForever:

The ankara trouser is quality. I thought you were shading the material.



As for the combination with the jersey lipsrsealed
The combination is what I'm talking about.. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 1:15pm On Feb 01, 2019
bazooka1:


Diaz made his debut in Copa de Rey after which Madrid technical team came out that he wasn't ready yet for first team football and suggested that he sent on loan.
I haven't checked if he was sent on loan yesterday, so that's about it.

On the injury to Mendy, do you know Guardiola has spent almost 160million on full backs since he took over at Man city? He was bound to search for internal solution at some point, especially when Mendy got injured.

Which ever way you look at it, money has been the name of the game. Look at Liverpool since Klopp took over. He has managed to clear out the dross like Ibe, Lucas, Benteke and the likes and replaced them with about £400m worth of asset and their trajectory has since gone up from 10th place to first place, a Europa final and champions league final. Potentially English champions.

I don't begrudge them of buying their success because they worked for it. They recruited wisely and had resellable assets like Coutinho and Suarez whom they sold and reinvested in their team.

Man city on their part, went black water and gamed the system, broke financial fair play rules and voala!

Money have been a massive factor in Guardiola and Man city's success. No one can deny that.
They are currently second in the league because someone have out spent them in the close season.

Diaz is a part of the first team, even the coach mentioned it. So which technical team said he should be loaned out? I am not sure where you got that from but okay.

If you think money buys success then I want you to do something. Calculate the amount of money that Man U's first XI cost then compare it to City, then compare their places on the table and you will get that money isn't everything.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 1:16pm On Feb 01, 2019
Mickael2:


And VicMo was having serious injury concerns then. It is natural that hr would find it difficult to get back to the team.

Yes you said nothing But the fact
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 1:29pm On Feb 01, 2019
SlayerForever:



Stay undercover. Barca agents are still prowling the streets.

grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 1:35pm On Feb 01, 2019
Ama go back to hiding..

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 1:41pm On Feb 01, 2019
Earthquake1:
Ama go back to hiding..



come wetin dey happen,

nah everything barca dey buy

chaiii resrious kasala dey that club ooo
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 1:57pm On Feb 01, 2019
Now dt ighalo has refused to move,so our number 9ine will b playing in 2nd tier Chinese league equivalent to crown fc osogbo in Nigerian league tongue

Deres too much guarantee from rohr,when oda players are jostling to make a move so as to get am invite to d team,just be say odas sef no play well,if not I won't start hin ahead of strikers playing in premiership,ligue one and co cool
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 2:02pm On Feb 01, 2019
andrew444:


Oga he was crap ,which finishing be the difference ? Na na musa dey play like that say una no go cause am ni ,you dey use inconstitent as excuse ,pep really turn that guy to a world class player

No ball control poor decision making.check him under pep dribbles everything are top notch ,he even have been assisting so many goals at city

It took him 2 seasons to Live up to the expectations at city if na African player dem go don run dey call am flop
Sterling only lacked end product. The fact you're comparing to Musa is hilarious. His decision making was always good for one his age.
Pep did not improve anything about that guy. Sterling would've been this good if he stayed at Liverpool or even moved to Arsenal.
He has just gained more composure and improved his finishing.
Besides - didn't Pep and Sterling himself say he has been doing extra work with Arteta?? So I guess we should be giving Arteta credit then abi?

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