Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,168,911 members, 7,872,951 topics. Date: Thursday, 27 June 2024 at 05:11 AM

Death Is Proof That A Higher Power (god) Exists - Religion (4) - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Religion / Death Is Proof That A Higher Power (god) Exists (16503 Views)

Spiritual Authority And Power God Gave You / Without The Omniscient,Science Would Be Silent: Science Is Proof That God Exists / Why Is There No Single Objective Proof That God Exists (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (Reply) (Go Down)

Re: Death Is Proof That A Higher Power (god) Exists by sonmvayina(m): 2:09pm On Feb 17, 2019
Annihilator7:
It's either gods or aliens. I'm pretty sure we were created by existing powerful being(s). I be live in life after death. I believe life is a test. We are to be filtered by our deeds and only the ones that pass this test called life would not be discarded.

Have you heard of the world "recycle"?
Re: Death Is Proof That A Higher Power (god) Exists by Nobody: 2:37pm On Feb 17, 2019
Capensis:
Life is a Semester in eternal existence as experienced by the limited faculties of a materialized DNA blueprints in Fibonacci sequences called Creatures.

The Human Experience, the animals' experience, the Vegetative Experience, the Rock Experience, even that of intelligent light and sound are conscious awareness in the spectrum of conscious spirit pervading all time-space continuum.

It is not that we are not God collectively, it is that we are dumbed down versions of the Human Beings that built us. The Human body, was designed to advance the evolution of the planet from the substrates of 'remains' or corpse of 'nephillic' giants.

You think too highly of yourselves, yet forget that the chimpazees are your cousins, the trees are your nephews, the birds are your uncles, even the snakes are your distant cousins.

The brain has over 100 billion neurons connecting gradually, and if all connects as should be, you will wise as those humans that built you.

'Let US make man in OUR image' - The God(s), called Elohim, meaning - (those who from the heavens come) - heaven being mars, Orion and Plaeadis are your ancient great grand parents. They are Humans like you and I, but we can call them aliens, ETs etc ? Why would we call our Great Grand Parents such alien names when they are still here with us, among us, in different costumes and bodies ?

Gentlemen and Ladies, you have no idea what you are. And for this reason I have come, so prepare your offerings, your tithes and your gifts. So, I may eat from the Lord's Vineyard.

Anyone ready to pay tithes for the message ? grin


Comedian grin
Re: Death Is Proof That A Higher Power (god) Exists by Nobody: 2:46pm On Feb 17, 2019
Anas09:

Hahahahahahahsa. See how you are emphasizing 'No body knows'. That you don't doesn't mean no body knows.

Doesn't Jesus Know?

May be you shd go to YouTube and type N.D.E' (Near Dead Experience) and watch.

And download 'The AfterLife' by Emmanuel Swedenborg and read.

I can tell you abt my own little Experience when i went for surgery.

Pls stop insisting on what you don't know know. There's Life after dead.

U can tell us about ur experience
Re: Death Is Proof That A Higher Power (god) Exists by Nobody: 2:53pm On Feb 17, 2019
Death is a natural process and everything will dei someday.
There is nothing like spirits, no prove to that

2 Likes

Re: Death Is Proof That A Higher Power (god) Exists by Lotechi(m): 4:16pm On Feb 17, 2019
theoriginalgood:
Why is it that all humans die someday? Even the Christians say “Jesus” died, but not: “God” died. In the Bible, Mark 10:18 says only God is truly good. I can believe this because all humans die and God does not. Humans are beings. God is a being. One dies, the other doesn’t. If you’re honest with yourself, you’ll know you’re not really a good being. Otherwise, you’ll never die. It’s undeniable. Then it should be no surprise to know that humanity is on the verge of extinction; there’s a war between Good and evil behind the scenes. Goodness should have just deleted evil at the beginning, but strangely, evil has enough power to prevent its immediate death. This is why humanity STILL exists today. But by definition, good is stronger than evil; Goodness will win the war and finally vanquish humanity after striking ENOUGH killer blows to evil.

Now, how come humans don’t exist in a perfect abode like what you could call Heaven? A place where there is only peace, one is always strong and healthy, no hatred, no dishonesty, no filth etc.

You are what you create! God is only good and thus cannot create anything that isn’t good. It is known that existence is full of many infirmities and rubbish. Who created those? Definitely not God! This therefore means that humans are actually all the sin, evil, bad, wrong, flaws etc in existence. Yes, there is a human out there who embodies bad breath, initials: BB = Barry Borden, who embodies body odor, initials: BO = Benjamin Oliver, who embodies weakness, initials: WN = Winifred Newton etc.

Good is stronger than evil, therefore God cannot be limited and is already omnipotent and omniscient. He can do absolutely anything good, but there is no such thing as purifying humanity. Making a change to a being means changing identity. Purging humanity would mean deleting the old identity of sin, and somehow creating a new one of purity. That deletion means death. They call it sinner, but that sinner is actually a sin itself!

The fact that humans die means humanity is not good. Accept it. Therefore there’s a higher power ensuring that existence will one day be purified. Too bad no one here will be there!
your argument is so flawed and lack any ingredients to sway any one. Why do plants die? Why do harmless animals die? Why did the first men live close to a thousand years? Were they less sinful?
Re: Death Is Proof That A Higher Power (god) Exists by Herrmes: 4:19pm On Feb 17, 2019
Sure, there is but it's definitely not Christian.

1 Like

Re: Death Is Proof That A Higher Power (god) Exists by Lotechi(m): 4:27pm On Feb 17, 2019
Jayhazard:

The inevitability of death supports biblical submissions.
Why do we all die, no matter how much we avoid death?
and who wrote the bible? Humans that already knew what it means to live and die. Have you ever asked yourself why even animals fear death? Nature blackmailed every living thing to fear death in order to appreciate life. I believe in God but I have been battling to understand the meaning of afterlife.

1 Like

Re: Death Is Proof That A Higher Power (god) Exists by sacx: 4:30pm On Feb 17, 2019
hakeem4:
Bro I hope this is not your opinion that you desperately want to be true.

I don’t see how death prove the existence of any god .... why will any god create this large universe, the come to this small earth and start monitoring how humans behave forgetting all other living things

Understand that humans are no ordinary beings and not comparable to other living things. Also understand that humans were created with the capacity of becoming Gods themselves. No other created being has that capacity.

Humans were designed to embody life in themselves and transmuting this live to others. They were designed to become creators in same order as God. This is the truth. Death is not our testimony.
Re: Death Is Proof That A Higher Power (god) Exists by sacx: 4:48pm On Feb 17, 2019
Lotechi:
your argument is so flawed and lack any ingredients to sway any one. Why do plants die? Why do harmless animals die? Why did the first men live close to a thousand years? Were they less sinful?

I saw the flaw in his argument myself, but I can answer your question.

Man was created as a distinct being whose life form is different from any other created being. Due to his nature, he had the capacity to have authority over every other created being within his earth domain. He was therefore given dominion over them.

When he sinned, he fell from a height of civilisation he had attained and all creation to which he was given dominion fell with him. This is the truth. This is the reason plants die, and animals too.

The first man lived for a thousand years not because he was less sinful. In fact there is nothing like being less sinful. If you are in sin, you are in sin. He lived for a thousand years because he still had the knowledge of that civilisation from which he fell in the core of his being. But as he moved further away from Eden, the potency of that knowledge was gradually eroded by the knowledge of sin.

This was why Christ came. He first removed the nature of sin from man and put the nature of life I'm him, in other words, the full capacity of manifesting as God. He expects man however to fellowship with the knowledge of life in his spirit until his body is transformed to inherit incorruption. This is the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Re: Death Is Proof That A Higher Power (god) Exists by Nobody: 4:53pm On Feb 17, 2019
sonmvayina:


You are a genius..

Awwwwnnnn... thank you.
Re: Death Is Proof That A Higher Power (god) Exists by Judybash93(m): 5:02pm On Feb 17, 2019
Anas09:

Hahahahahahahsa. See how you are emphasizing 'No body knows'. That you don't doesn't mean no body knows.

Doesn't Jesus Know?

May be you shd go to YouTube and type N.D.E' (Near Dead Experience) and watch.

And download 'The AfterLife' by Emmanuel Swedenborg and read.

I can tell you abt my own little Experience when i went for surgery.

Pls stop insisting on what you don't know know. There's Life after dead.

You mentioned surgery.. cool.. You were under the influence of a sedative and believe me, em juices make people see things...

2 Likes

Re: Death Is Proof That A Higher Power (god) Exists by Judybash93(m): 5:03pm On Feb 17, 2019
nwabekeyi:
Death is a natural process and everything will dei someday.
There is nothing like spirits, no prove to that

Correct
Re: Death Is Proof That A Higher Power (god) Exists by Nobody: 5:07pm On Feb 17, 2019
Heterodox:
It's that simple boss. I myself have taken a thought about death. Why do we need to exit the world when there is much we can do to heal it and make it better. Then I realize that if God is what we take it to be, the source of energy and love, purposing good and good only, it can then means that death is a good thing. Perhaps, death comes when we are done doing all the good we are meant to do here on earth, or when we have failed in the mission. I think those of us who are able to fulfil the mission ascend to the fifth dimension becoming one with God, absorbed into the essence of the immaterial existence of oneness to guide others as well. And those of us who fail in it, simply reincarnate to this world to try again until we get things right. Death in my view is the liberating of the soul to to a higher dimension and calling.

I agree. If people understood that there is a beautiful life after death then we wouldn't fear death as much as we do. Death is a friend that ushers us into eternal bliss after a cycle of deaths and rebirths in our quest to attain perfection.
Re: Death Is Proof That A Higher Power (god) Exists by Judybash93(m): 5:07pm On Feb 17, 2019
Jeromejnr:


So how come most of these people all experience similar things in their NDE why don't some report seeing scooby doo or Santa Claus?

Some have
Re: Death Is Proof That A Higher Power (god) Exists by Judybash93(m): 5:09pm On Feb 17, 2019
BlueAir:
nobody really know what's on the other side but it doesn't take a genius to know there's no peace for the wicked after death

Em niggas don't know shit anymore

Re: Death Is Proof That A Higher Power (god) Exists by Hermes019: 5:59pm On Feb 17, 2019
sacx:


Understand that humans are no ordinary beings and not comparable to other living things. Also understand that humans were created with the capacity of becoming Gods themselves. No other created being has that capacity.

Humans were designed to embody life in themselves and transmuting this live to others. They were designed to become creators in same order as God. This is the truth. Death is not our testimony.
Of course we are no ordinary beings,that is why a microscopic thing such as a virus the least level of classification of a living thing can obliterate the entire human race

Oga the only thing that makes us stand out is the level of our brain development, but apparently it seems some of us still reason like lower animals

2 Likes

Re: Death Is Proof That A Higher Power (god) Exists by Anas09: 6:20pm On Feb 17, 2019
Judybash93:


You mentioned surgery.. cool.. You were under the influence of a sedative and believe me, em juices make people see things...
It may interest you to know that i had been under the knife 8 times and i had that experience only once.

Believe whatever you want.

1 Like

Re: Death Is Proof That A Higher Power (god) Exists by sacx: 6:22pm On Feb 17, 2019
Hermes019:

Of course we are no ordinary beings,that is why a microscopic thing such as a virus the least level of classification of a living thing can obliterate the entire human race

Oga the only thing that makes us stand out is the level of our brain development, but apparently it seems some of us still reason like lower animals

It's okay. You are loved.
Re: Death Is Proof That A Higher Power (god) Exists by Lotechi(m): 7:49pm On Feb 17, 2019
sacx:


I saw the flaw in his argument myself, but I can answer your question.

Man was created as a distinct being whose life form is different from any other created being. Due to his nature, he had the capacity to have authority over every other created being within his earth domain. He was therefore given dominion over them.

When he sinned, he fell from a height of civilisation he had attained and all creation to which he was given dominion fell with him. This is the truth. This is the reason plants die, and animals too.

The first man lived for a thousand years not because he was less sinful. In fact there is nothing like being less sinful. If you are in sin, you are in sin. He lived for a thousand years because he still had the knowledge of that civilisation from which he fell in the core of his being. But as he moved further away from Eden, the potency of that knowledge was gradually eroded by the knowledge of sin.

This was why Christ came. He first removed the nature of sin from man and put the nature of life I'm him, in other words, the full capacity of manifesting as God. He expects man however to fellowship with the knowledge of life in his spirit until his body is transformed to inherit incorruption. This is the gospel of Jesus Christ.
first, I do not think man attained any height of civilization before they sinned. They were only following instructions and maybe there was a fruit that renewed their longevity every once in a while and as they left eden, they no more had access to the fruit.

In as much as your write up was nice, it still lacks the answer to the complex nature of life and death. According to the bible, God was scared that if man remained in the garden, they could eat from the tree of life and get everlasting life.

Thirdly, why do you think almost every living thing fear death and value life including mosquitoes, fowl, snakes e.t.c. What do they have to lose if they die or live?
Re: Death Is Proof That A Higher Power (god) Exists by Hahjascho(m): 9:46pm On Feb 17, 2019
Anas09:

Hahahahahahahsa. See how you are emphasizing 'No body knows'. That you don't doesn't mean no body knows.

Doesn't Jesus Know?

May be you shd go to YouTube and type N.D.E' (Near Dead Experience) and watch.

And download 'The AfterLife' by Emmanuel Swedenborg and read.

I can tell you abt my own little Experience when i went for surgery.

Pls stop insisting on what you don't know know. There's Life after dead.
Yes there's life after death. ....But the type of life will be determined by how one lives his life now whether righteous or not......It's a great mystery. HEAVEN AND HELL ARE REAL
Re: Death Is Proof That A Higher Power (god) Exists by Hahjascho(m): 9:48pm On Feb 17, 2019
Rossikki:


Dude, EVERYBODY survives what we call 'death'.

Put aside your bible for a second. Your traditional religions KNOW that death is merely a transition to a higher form of existence, and that the soul is immortal. All the ancient religions KNEW it, from the ancient Egyptians to the Nubians, to the Aztecs, the Buddhists, the Hindus, and the Greeks.

Even today, Near Death Experiencers have confirmed that when the body dies, the awareness/soul/consciousness, continues to exist.

The bible contains the lie that you can experience this NATURAL TRANSITION only if you ''believe in Jesus''.

This lie was a political ploy by the Council of Nicaea in ancient Rome, to gather as many converts as possible. This council, created by Roman emperor, Constantine, was instrumental in altering much of those texts, and including falsehoods therein, as well as selecting which texts were included in the 'bible' and which texts weren't. So you really should take the stuff you read in the bible with a large pinch of salt.

Gospel of Jesus Christ IS REAL...please believe me.
Re: Death Is Proof That A Higher Power (god) Exists by sonmvayina(m): 10:04pm On Feb 17, 2019
Hahjascho:
Yes there's life after death. ....But the type of life will be determined by how one lives his life now whether righteous or not......It's a great mystery. HEAVEN AND HELL ARE REAL

Because oyinbo give you book wey dem write or you do go there cone back.... Or you think say oyinbo no dey talk lie or write rubbish?

My brother grow sense..
Re: Death Is Proof That A Higher Power (god) Exists by sonmvayina(m): 10:05pm On Feb 17, 2019
Hahjascho:
Gospel of Jesus Christ IS REAL...please believe me.

Jesus is a roman invention to deceive and mock God...
Re: Death Is Proof That A Higher Power (god) Exists by Hahjascho(m): 10:53pm On Feb 17, 2019
sonmvayina:


Because oyinbo give you book wey dem write or you do go there cone back.... Or you think say oyinbo no dey talk lie or write rubbish?

My brother grow sense..
hmn..........that "Oyinbos" write rubbish doesn't make Bible .....word of God rubbish....... There's this information that enters a man in which the Inner -man (soul) make a testification with soothing peace of mind.

Even the most knowledgeable man on earth acknowledges the supremacy of God....
Don't you wonder why many people are becoming lovers of iniquities, immoralities.....wickedness..... hatred.... oppressions...... pride.......stealings...... killings...... worldly pleasure..( Work of devil becomes he knows where he's heading to? Hell!).... but strives to be a peace maker or live a righteous life?

THE knowledge of God is a Mystery! deeper than what human mind can comprehend....

Even anyone who reads the Bible with an ordinary mind or argumentative mind doesn't get the true revelation from it.

OK, if the word of God is more deeper , the idol worshipers even have strong believe in their demonic god (which is against God's will) and through it (god) they commit pathetic "charm work and real evil work....which work for them...( though they already have a secured fate unless they turn to God for grace)

SO if those earthly evil works exist (DARKNESS) you don't believe there's a DIVINE LIGHT capable of illuminating demonic darkness..... called GOD ? which are made manifest by His word?

The trees, rivers, sun ,moons, star, day and night, animals, sleep, DEATH, BIRTH, Human growth, procreation, human wisdom, you think all are accidental occurrences and not being monitored by a supreme being called God ..made manifest by His word??...

The revelation in God's word has opened my eyes far beyond what an heresy can falsify ...This no be them say them say.....no one has encounter with God's word with the right mindset and not get a transformed soul!
Re: Death Is Proof That A Higher Power (god) Exists by Hahjascho(m): 10:58pm On Feb 17, 2019
sonmvayina:


Jesus is a roman invention to deceive and mock God...
The Bible made it manifest, it's not an argument but rather an enlightening!
People have gone far more beyond what you are insinuating...... even the Bible made it manifest that he came to his own but some refuse him....due to their stony hearts......

No one cometh to the father except through him!

just an idea!
Re: Death Is Proof That A Higher Power (god) Exists by sacx: 11:13pm On Feb 17, 2019
Lotechi:
first, I do not think man attained any height of civilization before they sinned. They were only following instructions and maybe there was a fruit that renewed their longevity every once in a while and as they left eden, they no more had access to the fruit.

In as much as your write up was nice, it still lacks the answer to the complex nature of life and death. According to the bible, God was scared that if man remained in the garden, they could eat from the tree of life and get everlasting life.

Thirdly, why do you think almost every living thing fear death and value life including mosquitoes, fowl, snakes e.t.c. What do they have to lose if they die or live?

There are things I would have loved to say but time and space won't permit.

On civilisation, the first man was created as a super intelligent being. He was created as a living soul to journey into becoming a life giving Spirit. He failed to do this when he sinned. Jesus Christ was created after that same image with which Adam was, that is why scripture refers to him as the last Adam. Essentially, in all of creation, God created two men; the first Adam (Adam and Eve) and the last Adam (Jesus). You would agree with me that Jesus was a being with the knowledge of a higher civilisation while he walled the earth.

On why God wouldn't want man to eat of the tree of life after sinning: This precaution was necessary because if he had eaten of that tree of life in his corrupted state, his fate would have been sealed and he would have become completely irredeemable. That is the present state Lucifer is. His own was that he had a certain measure of life and he sinned with it. I would like to point out that what scripture refers to as eternal life for the believer is not the same as living forever. No, is more than that. Possessing eternal life is having the very essence that makes God who he is. Angels have been living for thousands of years but still don't have eternal life. That is why they desire to look into the mystery of redemption.

For your last question, I think I answered that in my last post. Creation, animals, mosquitoes, snakes weren't supposed to taste death.They weren't designed to die. None of creation was. Their fear lies in their subjection to a process they weren't originally designed for. That's why scripture says creation groans, earnestly desiring to see the manifestation of the sons of God. Their lives are tied to ours for the sake of him that gave us dominion over them.

I hope I answered your questions.

1 Like

Re: Death Is Proof That A Higher Power (god) Exists by Hahjascho(m): 11:19pm On Feb 17, 2019
Yes! though death might not efficiently give a complete overview of God's existence but it is part of what makes strong the supremacy- existence of God..... this however requires a DEEP SELF CONVICTED BUT LOGICAL REASONING!

It's the reasoning that informs the inner soul that life is however not a bed of rose, that man is made of breath of life, that the breath of life will surely end one day......that the mortal body dies but the inner soul liveth and awaits judgement with respect to the consequences of actions carried out while on earth.
Most times ( and just of a recent) I hear people leaving this temporal world, I just have to shake my head and engage in some instantaneous deep thinking.......

Have heard of the greatest doubters, intelligent, wealthy, and the most versed beings who have eventually confirmed the real existence of God in overview of their own personal convicted experiences. THIS DOESN'T DESERVE AN ARGUMENT IT'S THE FACT!


All these are not coined to raise an argument but rather to give a direct and reverse call from state of philosophical Oblivion....give hope of salvation... and give a sound awareness to main aim a man is created which is to worship,honour and live a life pleasing to God....prior to unlocking the real life after death.


Therefore , God's existence doesn't deserve an argument it's actually the real FACT
Re: Death Is Proof That A Higher Power (god) Exists by slimderek(m): 3:02am On Feb 18, 2019
5thElement:


When you've learnt how to astral travel your opinion will change. cheesy
Dr Strange
I hail oo
Re: Death Is Proof That A Higher Power (god) Exists by Nobody: 7:47am On Feb 18, 2019
slimderek:
Dr Strange
I hail oo

Lol. cheesy

1 Like

(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (Reply)

The Power Of Curses And Blessing / Help! I Am Praying In A Language I Don't Understand. / Red Sea: Archaeologists Discover Remains Of Egyptian Army From The Biblical Exod

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 78
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.