Re: Those Calling Igbos Tribalist by Kagawa10: 7:56pm On Mar 01, 2019 |
SouthEastFacts:
A host that can't respect himself doesn't deserve respect.
There are many Igbos in Bayelsa, there are many Igbos in Akwa Ibom and there are many Igbos in the North, have you heard of any issue between them and Igbos?
No.
They are the real hosts not our insecured brothers and as they long continue to sit on Onne Port, they will to pay.
So because they are host we shouldn't vote in elections abi? They did in 2015 through Oba Akiolu and they are doing it again.
Insecured bascads. Lmao. We were all here when bayelsa folks descended on the Ibos and attacked the Ibos amidst them. Same happened in cross River where they warned Ibos to mind their business and not interfere in their politics and king making. In River state, nobody is allowed to sell land to the Ibos. The question is why always the Ibos? Are you that shameless? Yeye 3 Likes |
Re: Those Calling Igbos Tribalist by rosebowl01(m): 7:58pm On Mar 01, 2019 |
Obi1kenobi: Threads like this is the reason there won't be an Igbo Presidency any time soon. Too many people are needlessly provocative and a little too overwhelmed by their resentments and bitterness. It is far worse on the internet and social media than in real life (my daily experience of Igbo-Yoruba interactions in Lagos is one of total harmony), but all the nasty rhetoric in cyberspace still feeds into real life perceptions. The crazy response to Buhari's 2015 election led to the IPOB madness that overheated our polity. The man we supported lost (I supported Moghalu myself). Take it in good faith and re-strategize on how to build the alliances to lift ourselves to national political prominence and overturn decades of neglect of our region since the civil war, and facilitate the restructuring process. Don't waste the next 4 years only wailing in bitterness and insulting everyone and alienating everyone. It won't end well for us at the 2023 polls. Rid yourself of emotions with no productive value. Wow, no need to say anymore! Igbos deserve so much. They've been truly marginalized and denied their share, but you only need to read what a few of them write or their mindset to really understand why the situation is the way it is. Imagine a VP candidate like Obi that wants to convince every Nigerian that he deserve their vote. He's so focus on why Igbos are victims, and what is wrong with other groups, or altering tribalistic statements. He came to Lagos for campaign, but only went to Igbo dominated areas, knowing fully well that the stats don't add up. You will think he's campaigning to be the general overseer of the SE. You then begin to scratch your head and wonder what is these people's end game? If an uneducated Northern shoe-maker or an Almajiri can do this supposedly simple maths, and play the social politics so well, how come Igbos can't understand or see it better? Why the unending self sabotage? What gain has this over inflated ego gotten you over the decades? Why hope against hope, common sense, and reality? We all share space with people that we don't always agree with, but we should also understand the inevitable mutual interest that binds us, and remember to play/work/relate/ etc to that fact. This way, we ensure to occupy our place in the committee of nations that make up this country. Thanks. 4 Likes |
Re: Those Calling Igbos Tribalist by Obi1kenobi(m): 8:02pm On Mar 01, 2019 |
Goddys:
It is very unfortunate you don't have a foresight as an Igbo man. How do you think an Igbo man will become a president when one family in the north comprise of 30 children?
Your mindset should be on how to either restructure Nigeria or gain independence from this hell Northerners elected Abiola and Obasanjo. Northerners will elect a Yoruba man in 2023. We cannot set the restructuring agenda in motion or gain independence without political power. No matter our political aspirations, we need the support of other Nigerians, but Ndigbo b'anyi are the most emotional voters in the country. If you choose to keep making enemies (we're not even friends with the South South even though our voting patterns are similar), you are never going to have any political relevance. One day, Ndigbo will understand this after a long time of suffering in bitterness, but the day of learning our lesson is still very far away. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Those Calling Igbos Tribalist by Goddys(m): 8:04pm On Mar 01, 2019 |
rosebowl01:
Wow, no need to say anymore! Igbos deserve so much. They've been truly marginalized and denied their share, but you only need to read what a few of them write or their mindset to really understand why the situation is the way it is. Imagine a VP candidate like Obi that wants to convince every Nigerian that he deserve their vote. He's so focus on why Igbos are victims, and what is wrong with other groups, or altering tribalistic statements. He came to Lagos for campaign, but only went to Igbo dominated areas, knowing fully well that the stats don't add up. You will think he's campaigning to be the general overseer of the SE. You then begin to scratch your head and wonder what is these people's end game? If an uneducated Northern shoe-maker or an Almajiri can do this supposedly simple maths, and play the social politics so well, how come Igbos can't understand or see it better? Why the unending self sabotage? What gain has this over inflated ego gotten you over the decades? Why hope against hope, common sense, and reality? We all share space with people that we don't always agree with, but we should also understand the inevitable mutual interest that binds us, and remember to play/work/relate/ etc to that fact. This way, we ensure to occupy our place in the committee of nations that make up this country. Thanks. Just like Awolowo played social politics on Igbos during civil war. Please go and sleep if you have no meaningful thing to contribute. Nigeria needs to be restructured or divided 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Those Calling Igbos Tribalist by rosebowl01(m): 8:05pm On Mar 01, 2019 |
Goddys:
Just like Awolowo played social politics on Igbos during civil war. Please go and sleep if you have no meaningful thing to contribute. Nigeria needs to be restructured or divided Thanks for buttressing my point. 1 Like |
Re: Those Calling Igbos Tribalist by adelee777: 8:06pm On Mar 01, 2019 |
B1ak3:
Just listen to yourself. And you wonder why the Yorubas are starting to be hostile towards your tribe. How can you speak about your host in such a threatening manner and you expect them to be accommodating? It is because of such arrogance that is why igbos are seriously marginalized in Nigeria today.
Can you imagine someone from another tribe saying this about the igbos while living in the east? Keep it up and continue being marginalized .Trying yo reason with Ibos? Like you have too much spare time? 3 Likes |
Re: Those Calling Igbos Tribalist by Obi1kenobi(m): 8:12pm On Mar 01, 2019 |
rosebowl01:
Wow, no need to say anymore! Igbos deserve so much. They've been truly marginalized and denied their share, but you only need to read what a few of them write or their mindset to really understand why the situation is the way it is. Imagine a VP candidate like Obi that wants to convince every Nigerian that he deserve their vote. He's so focus on why Igbos are victims, and what is wrong with other groups, or altering tribalistic statements. He came to Lagos for campaign, but only went to Igbo dominated areas, knowing fully well that the stats don't add up. You will think he's campaigning to be the general overseer of the SE. You then begin to scratch your head and wonder what is these people's end game? If an uneducated Northern shoe-maker or an Almajiri can do this supposedly simple maths, and play the social politics so well, how come Igbos can't understand or see it better? Why the unending self sabotage? What gain has this over inflated ego gotten you over the decades? Why hope against hope, common sense, and reality? We all share space with people that we don't always agree with, but we should also understand the inevitable mutual interest that binds us, and remember to play/work/relate/ etc to that fact. This way, we ensure to occupy our place in the committee of nations that make up this country. Thanks. The truth is since the '66 pogroms in the North and the civil war after, we have been a traumatized population for a long time who still haven't lifted that shadow off our backs, compounded by the fact that there is no region that has been more discriminated against than us. A lot of our bitterness is somewhat justified and we deserve a little more empathy than we're shown. This lingering trauma makes us highly distrustful of others, and in turn distrusted by others. Too many Igbos just can't help themselves from lashing out and alienating themselves. It is a self-destructive cycle, but I just don't know how we can turn it around. 2 Likes |
Re: Those Calling Igbos Tribalist by Goddys(m): 8:13pm On Mar 01, 2019 |
Obi1kenobi:
Northerners elected Abiola and Obasanjo. Northerners will elect a Yoruba man in 2023. We cannot set the restructuring agenda in motion or gain independence without political power. No matter our political aspirations, we need the support of other Nigerians, but Ndigbo b'anyi are the most emotional voters in the country. If you choose to keep making enemies (we're not even friends with the South South even though our voting patterns are similar), you are never going to have any political relevance. One day, Ndigbo will understand this after a long time of suffering in bitterness, but the day of learning our lesson is still very far away. I am very sure you are not a student of history. Hausa/Fulani are power mongers who will rather the power stays in their circles than go elsewhere. They couldn't vote Atiku cuz they are afraid of Igbo gaining any prominent position in the government and also because Buhari champions their agenda to rule and dominate Nigeria. Mark this day in your calendar, Atiku will win 2023 election with Yoruba as his vice while the APC loses cuz they will field a Yoruba for president and an Hausa as the vice. Igbos don't have to play their stupid games cuz we are self independent and have learnt the hard lesson after civil war. When the time is right, Nigeria government controlled by Fulanis will be the ones pleading that Igbo's should just go. They will restructure to favor Igbo's but it will be too late. You haven't seen the handwriting on the walls but I have. Every Igbo man will rather he die than beg or succumb. It's a gift and not a curse. That's why we have come this far after everything was taken from us after civil war 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Those Calling Igbos Tribalist by Goddys(m): 8:22pm On Mar 01, 2019 |
Obi1kenobi:
The truth is since the '66 pogroms in the North and the civil war after, we have been a traumatized population for a long time who still haven't lifted that shadow off our backs, compounded by the fact that there is no region that has been more discriminated against than us. A lot of our bitterness is somewhat justified and we deserve a little more empathy than we're shown. This lingering trauma makes us highly distrustful of others, and in turn distrusted by others. Too many Igbos just can't help themselves from lashing out and alienating themselves.
It is a self-destructive cycle, but I just don't know how we can turn it around. Your psycho analysis of Igbo populace is wrong. To understand a tribe, you need to trace their root. Prior to 1966, Igbo's are known as progressives who are independent, industrious and fight any kind of injustice meted against them. Even if our next generation know nothing about 66 pogrom, it changes how they will feel or act against any kind of injustice. It's ingrained in the DNA. Why did Hitler exterminate the Jews? 3 Likes |
Re: Those Calling Igbos Tribalist by Obi1kenobi(m): 8:36pm On Mar 01, 2019 |
Goddys:
I am very sure you are not a student of history. Hausa/Fulani are power mongers who will rather the power stays in their circles than go elsewhere. They couldn't vote Atiku cuz they are afraid of Igbo gaining any prominent position in the government and also because Buhari champions their agenda to rule and dominate Nigeria.
Mark this day in your calendar, Atiku will win 2023 election with Yoruba as his vice while the APC loses cuz they will field a Yoruba for president and an Hausa as the vice.
Igbos don't have to play their stupid games cuz we are self independent and have learnt the hard lesson after civil war.
When the time is right, Nigeria government controlled by Fulanis will be the ones pleading that Igbo's should just go. They will restructure to favor Igbo's but it will be too late. You haven't seen the handwriting on the walls but I have.
Every Igbo man will rather he die than beg or succumb. It's a gift and not a curse. That's why we have come this far after everything was taken from us after civil war Really? Is that why they persist with insufferable whining about "marginalization". Better stop deceiving yourself. Ndigbo want power like any other group want power. But they're so consumed with their hate and bitterness, they are too myopic to engage in productive ways that would facilitate their ascent to the power they desire. Whether Hausa-Fulanis are power mongers or not, even they understand the principle of equity which is why they voted massively for Abiola (who ran against Tofa, a Northerner) and Obasanjo. They will certainly not vote for Igbos, because they know Igbos despise them. And for this reason, we will continue to be defeated in national politics when we cannot appeal to the the most powerful voting bloc. Politics is a simple game of numbers, but for some reason, too many Igbos can't seem to do simple maths. Why the hell would anybody beg Igbos for restructuring? Some of you just like making empty noise on social media. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Those Calling Igbos Tribalist by Bodingo: 8:59pm On Mar 01, 2019 |
Obi1kenobi:
Really? Is that why they persist with insufferable whining about "marginalization". Better stop deceiving yourself. Ndigbo want power like any other group want power. But they're so consumed with their hate and bitterness, they are too myopic to engage in productive ways that would facilitate their ascent to the power they desire. Whether Hausa-Fulanis are power mongers or not, even they understand the principle of equity which is why they voted massively for Abiola (who ran against Tofa, a Northerner) and Obasanjo. They will certainly not vote for Igbos, because they know Igbos despise them. And for this reason, we will continue to be defeated in national politics when we cannot appeal to the the most powerful voting bloc. Politics is a simple game of numbers, but for some reason, too many Igbos can't seem to do simple maths.
Why the hell would anybody beg Igbos for restructuring? Some of you just like making empty noise on social media. This Igbo wanabi, you are not tired of claiming to be Igbo. You don cast for your Okoroawusa handle, you are back with this one 6 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Those Calling Igbos Tribalist by Asshurbanipal: 9:01pm On Mar 01, 2019 |
Obi1kenobi:
Northerners elected Abiola and Obasanjo. Northerners will elect a Yoruba man in 2023. We cannot set the restructuring agenda in motion or gain independence without political power. No matter our political aspirations, we need the support of other Nigerians, but Ndigbo b'anyi are the most emotional voters in the country. If you choose to keep making enemies (we're not even friends with the South South even though our voting patterns are similar), you are never going to have any political relevance. One day, Ndigbo will understand this after a long time of suffering in bitterness, but the day of learning our lesson is still very far away. Shut up oga. The other southerners are the emotional hateful voters. The north is just using igbo to deceive them. In 2023 the north will dump them and work with igbos to retain power. Don't you remember 1979 barely 9 years after the war? A war which yorubas prefered cheap "political relevance" against southern interest while pushing anti igbo sentiments which they breed in the west to mainstream? What happened to awolowo after all the shenanigans? 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Those Calling Igbos Tribalist by Asshurbanipal: 9:05pm On Mar 01, 2019 |
Bodingo:
This Igbo wanabi, you are not tired of claiming to be Igbo. You don cast for your Okoroawusa handle, you are back with this one The mugu keep exposing himself 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Those Calling Igbos Tribalist by Asshurbanipal: 9:10pm On Mar 01, 2019 |
Obi1kenobi:
Really? Is that why they persist with insufferable whining about "marginalization". Better stop deceiving yourself. Ndigbo want power like any other group want power. But they're so consumed with their hate and bitterness, they are too myopic to engage in productive ways that would facilitate their ascent to the power they desire. Whether Hausa-Fulanis are power mongers or not, even they understand the principle of equity which is why they voted massively for Abiola (who ran against Tofa, a Northerner) and Obasanjo. They will certainly not vote for Igbos, because they know Igbos despise them. And for this reason, we will continue to be defeated in national politics when we cannot appeal to the the most powerful voting bloc. Politics is a simple game of numbers, but for some reason, too many Igbos can't seem to do simple maths.
Why the hell would anybody beg Igbos for restructuring? Some of you just like making empty noise on social media. You be ode. 2023 coming. Yorubas are now very weak and vulnerable but they don't know. Buhari will destroy Tinubu and scatter APC. Yoruba have no political philosophy right now bu to cling on Buhari like a suckling baby 2 Likes |
Re: Those Calling Igbos Tribalist by Asshurbanipal: 9:13pm On Mar 01, 2019 |
Obi1kenobi:
The truth is since the '66 pogroms in the North and the civil war after, we have been a traumatized population for a long time who still haven't lifted that shadow off our backs, compounded by the fact that there is no region that has been more discriminated against than us. A lot of our bitterness is somewhat justified and we deserve a little more empathy than we're shown. This lingering trauma makes us highly distrustful of others, and in turn distrusted by others. Too many Igbos just can't help themselves from lashing out and alienating themselves.
It is a self-destructive cycle, but I just don't know how we can turn it around. Hahah. Did I hear you say "us"? Afonja way of reasoning is unique so don't try to be smart 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Those Calling Igbos Tribalist by APCsupporter: 9:15pm On Mar 01, 2019 |
SouthEastFacts: A yoruba man removed all the transformers he installed for his people at Ibeju, Lekki but no piam from the hypocrits.
Yorubas are just insecured. I am glad this election have shown them we have large population in Lagos. If they are not comfortable, SPLIT.
Thank NYSC is passing out soon, more Igbos are on their way to Lagos.
As for the beggars, if I give them money at least for now, make I die.
If you are not a Northern Christian, nothing from me will enter their hand including Benue.
They should go and enjoy their next level, in 2023 we will give them another chance to atone for their sins... a NW 2023.
Unless our sophisticated brothers realise that SE/SS is not their problem. Imagine them preferring an El Rufai, a known jihadist just to spite the better South and Christians. Some people are really in severe pains though If you like don't just refuse to donate to beggers, you can as well rob them. Buhari remains the President. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Those Calling Igbos Tribalist by Asshurbanipal: 9:19pm On Mar 01, 2019 |
Obi1kenobi:
Northerners elected Abiola and Obasanjo. Northerners will elect a Yoruba man in 2023. We cannot set the restructuring agenda in motion or gain independence without political power. No matter our political aspirations, we need the support of other Nigerians, but Ndigbo b'anyi are the most emotional voters in the country. If you choose to keep making enemies (we're not even friends with the South South even though our voting patterns are similar), you are never going to have any political relevance. One day, Ndigbo will understand this after a long time of suffering in bitterness, but the day of learning our lesson is still very far away. Who elected shagari/ekwueme barely after the war and dumped their slave awolowo? Tinubu and co are heading awolowo direction. Its funny how igbo hate blind yorubas as they go great extent self destructing just to get at igbos 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Those Calling Igbos Tribalist by Okoroawusa: 9:19pm On Mar 01, 2019 |
Asshurbanipal:
The mugu keep exposing himself
Okoroawusa handle?
Nna,nekwanum echichi o!
wetin consign me for wetin una dey discuss? 1 Like |
Re: Those Calling Igbos Tribalist by APCsupporter: 9:19pm On Mar 01, 2019 |
B1ak3:
Just listen to yourself. And you wonder why the Yorubas are starting to be hostile towards your tribe. How can you speak about your host in such a threatening manner and you expect them to be accommodating? It is because of such arrogance that is why igbos are seriously marginalized in Nigeria today.
Can you imagine someone from another tribe saying this about the igbos while living in the east? Keep it up and continue being marginalized You guys are too gentle. They know that they can't try this nonsense in the north or even some parts of SS 2 Likes |
Re: Those Calling Igbos Tribalist by APCsupporter: 9:21pm On Mar 01, 2019 |
SouthEastFacts:
A host that can't respect himself doesn't deserve respect.
There are many Igbos in Bayelsa, there are many Igbos in Akwa Ibom and there are many Igbos in the North, have you heard of any issue between them and Igbos?
No.
They are the real hosts not our insecured brothers and as they long continue to sit on Onne Port, they will to pay.
So because they are host we shouldn't vote in elections abi? They did in 2015 through Oba Akiolu and they are doing it again.
Insecured bascads. You don't do it in the north because you know that we will not tolerate half of what yoy are doing to the good people of Yoruba tribe. Just try such in Kano and see if your matter doesnt make it to CNN headlines 1 Like |
Re: Those Calling Igbos Tribalist by Asshurbanipal: 9:22pm On Mar 01, 2019 |
APCsupporter:
Some people are really in severe pains though
If you like don't just refuse to donate to beggers, you can as well rob them. Buhari remains the President. I am even surprised? Do you even care about poverty ravaging your region which buhari has worsened. Why won't I be in severe pain. I wasn't brought up to belive that poverty is normal and caused by God 2 Likes |
Re: Those Calling Igbos Tribalist by Asshurbanipal: 9:26pm On Mar 01, 2019 |
APCsupporter:
You don't do it in the north because you know that we will not tolerate half of what yoy are doing to the good people of Yoruba tribe. Just try such in Kano and see if your matter doesnt make it to CNN headlines As if worthless poverty ridden northerners don't get killed too. Just that their live worth less than a goat 2 Likes |
Re: Those Calling Igbos Tribalist by phase1: 9:27pm On Mar 01, 2019 |
There is so much sense in this thread. 1 Like |
Re: Those Calling Igbos Tribalist by Asshurbanipal: 9:30pm On Mar 01, 2019 |
APCsupporter:
You guys are too gentle. They know that they can't try this nonsense in the north or even some parts of SS
As if abokiis are not roasted in Aba on daily basis 1 Like |
Re: Those Calling Igbos Tribalist by Asshurbanipal: 9:34pm On Mar 01, 2019 |
Gabriel004: Stop attaching SS. Thank you. Another low life minority clinging on South south to feel important 1 Like |
Re: Those Calling Igbos Tribalist by APCsupporter: 9:35pm On Mar 01, 2019 |
Asshurbanipal:
As if abokiis are not roasted in Aba on daily basis
And you think that can happen without it appearing in the news? Gerarrahere 1 Like |
Re: Those Calling Igbos Tribalist by Asshurbanipal: 9:39pm On Mar 01, 2019 |
B1ak3:
Really you don't feel it and you want to run away from Nigeria. Out of the three major ethnic groups in Nigeria, which do you think is most insignificant when it comes to politics? For a sitting president to even refer to you as 5% should tell you how insignificant you are regarded 5% comment was made while answering questions on Niger delta. Yorubas have been the one crying since 1960. Only during the war and buhari anti igbo regime did they manage to come up a little. 1 Like |
Re: Those Calling Igbos Tribalist by APCsupporter: 9:47pm On Mar 01, 2019 |
Asshurbanipal:
As if worthless poverty ridden northerners don't get killed too. Just that their live worth less than a goat You are extremely pained. The defeat of your oga is still disturbing you. The fact is you people are forced to respect your hosts here. You can try your nonsense with Yoruba but not us 1 Like |
Re: Those Calling Igbos Tribalist by APCsupporter: 9:49pm On Mar 01, 2019 |
Asshurbanipal:
I am even surprised? Do you even care about poverty ravaging your region which buhari has worsened. Why won't I be in severe pain. I wasn't brought up to belive that poverty is normal and caused by God You guys said we are very poor, we are this we are that, etc but we voted for that same person ONLY you people have been lamenting about. You spent 4 years complaining about poverty whilr we never complained and still voted the same leader. So pity yourself. As yiu can see, the North is happy with Buhari 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Those Calling Igbos Tribalist by Asshurbanipal: 9:49pm On Mar 01, 2019 |
Obi1kenobi: Threads like this is the reason there won't be an Igbo Presidency any time soon. Too many people are needlessly provocative and a little too overwhelmed by their resentments and bitterness. It is far worse on the internet and social media than in real life (my daily experience of Igbo-Yoruba interactions in Lagos is one of total harmony), but all the nasty rhetoric in cyberspace still feeds into real life perceptions. The crazy response to Buhari's 2015 election led to the IPOB madness that overheated our polity. The man we supported lost (I supported Moghalu myself). Take it in good faith and re-strategize on how to build the alliances to lift ourselves to national political prominence and overturn decades of neglect of our region since the civil war, and facilitate the restructuring process. Don't waste the next 4 years only wailing in bitterness and insulting everyone and alienating everyone. It won't end well for us at the 2023 polls. Rid yourself of emotions with no productive value. You keep talking nonsense. Yoruba have supported the loosing party since independence. Their clinging on despotic buhari will not save them. Igbos will maintain opposition, nothing bad in it. You can't blackmail us to support someone with ideology different from ours and has no benefit to the south in general. I have not seen anybody talk to NE who have not produced president since 1966 yet missed the opportunity. Southerners are phools. Continue looking for crumbs instead of evolving long term political philosophy. Igbos have dignity 1 Like 1 Share |
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Re: Those Calling Igbos Tribalist by Asshurbanipal: 9:59pm On Mar 01, 2019 |
APCsupporter:
You are extremely pained. The defeat of your oga is still disturbing you. The fact is you people are forced to respect your hosts here. You can try your nonsense with Yoruba but not us I am pained because banking stock just crashed to the lowest since 2016 immediately buhari rigged himself in. Poverty ridden abookis know nothing about this. Backward idiats 4 Likes 1 Share |