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Re: Where 2 Oceans Meet But Do Not Mix, Confirmed By The Quran Over 1400 Years Back by sulasa07(m): 8:58pm On Mar 08, 2019 |
ollah2:Do you take Christians serious, whenever I c Christians come online or face-to-face and say they are loving,peaceful, tolerant,I look at them with with one corner eye and feel like slapping their brain into reboot mode.Christians are the most Hypocritical people on this planet.When you tell them this is wrong,they will tell you to Bleep off and leave them to their wishes.I spit on those hypocrites. |
Re: Where 2 Oceans Meet But Do Not Mix, Confirmed By The Quran Over 1400 Years Back by ollah2: 9:10pm On Mar 08, 2019 |
sulasa07: The guy was gonna derail like others until they met their match. The verses sent him into oblivion |
Re: Where 2 Oceans Meet But Do Not Mix, Confirmed By The Quran Over 1400 Years Back by QDubz(m): 9:13pm On Mar 08, 2019 |
baarak66: maybe if you had a head to think with you'd notice it follows almost same principle. |
Re: Where 2 Oceans Meet But Do Not Mix, Confirmed By The Quran Over 1400 Years Back by tintingz(m): 9:47pm On Mar 08, 2019 |
Onlyonebuhari:Can you provide evidence of moon that split into two? |
Re: Where 2 Oceans Meet But Do Not Mix, Confirmed By The Quran Over 1400 Years Back by najib632(m): 11:33pm On Mar 08, 2019 |
SaintAY:The number of women he has slept with are all his wives and there was no such thing as underage then, A completely sound morally oriented man. You use your dirty minds to think of nonsense things, go and read about his youngest wife Aisha bint Abubakar R.A. and see how sound she was upstairs and how well taken care of she was, even when the hypocrites accused her of fornication Allah revealed a verse rebuking the accusation against her. 2 Likes |
Re: Where 2 Oceans Meet But Do Not Mix, Confirmed By The Quran Over 1400 Years Back by najib632(m): 11:36pm On Mar 08, 2019 |
QDubz:Yes |
Re: Where 2 Oceans Meet But Do Not Mix, Confirmed By The Quran Over 1400 Years Back by najib632(m): 11:37pm On Mar 08, 2019 |
QDubz:Yes everything was put in place by Him. |
Re: Where 2 Oceans Meet But Do Not Mix, Confirmed By The Quran Over 1400 Years Back by najib632(m): 11:42pm On Mar 08, 2019 |
SouthEastFacts:Fool we are praising Yahweh for creating such phenomena and you're here talking nonsense. |
Re: Where 2 Oceans Meet But Do Not Mix, Confirmed By The Quran Over 1400 Years Back by najib632(m): 11:46pm On Mar 08, 2019 |
tintingz:You're just one kind is this how something mixes? The picture is totally Clare fa!
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Re: Where 2 Oceans Meet But Do Not Mix, Confirmed By The Quran Over 1400 Years Back by tintingz(m): 11:46am On Mar 09, 2019 |
najib632:That image is a result of glacier melt water meeting the offshore water. According scientific report, there's no two oceans meeting, it's just like a melt ice, sediment from the shore moved to the ocean offshore in gulf of Alaska but couldn't mix with the water due to the density, but they will eventually mix. So there's no barrier as claimed by the Quran, it's just an ignorance poorly caveman approach. |
Re: Where 2 Oceans Meet But Do Not Mix, Confirmed By The Quran Over 1400 Years Back by najib632(m): 3:24pm On Mar 09, 2019 |
tintingz:Stupidity? what is a Halocline then? You think people are stupid or what? Always following weak theories. 1 Like |
Re: Where 2 Oceans Meet But Do Not Mix, Confirmed By The Quran Over 1400 Years Back by abdulazeez1002(m): 4:26pm On Mar 09, 2019 |
forghon:Ameen 2 Likes |
Re: Where 2 Oceans Meet But Do Not Mix, Confirmed By The Quran Over 1400 Years Back by abdulazeez1002(m): 4:30pm On Mar 09, 2019 |
tintingz:Bring proof, you're there blapping. True2god .your fellow atheist 2 can't answer |
Re: Where 2 Oceans Meet But Do Not Mix, Confirmed By The Quran Over 1400 Years Back by true2god: 6:07pm On Mar 09, 2019 |
abdulazeez1002:What other proof do you need aside the ones other people have provided. If one ties himself in an apron of ignorance it will be difficult to untie him. As I said earlier, there is nothing supernatural telling someone what is commonly known at that time. I am very sure if Muslims, somewhere in the Quran, come across an imaginary Allah telling Mohammed that there are 24 hours in a day, Muslims worldwide will rejoice and start a religious propaganda that the Quran is truly divine despite the fact that it was a common knowledge that 24 hours makes 1 day. My illiterate grandmother once told me the course the river in my village flow and its very source. If my grandmother should write a book and claimed that an angel Michael gave her that information, I will call her a liar because someone also gave her that info which she, in turn, passed to me. Don't be gullible and delusional in the name of Allah. |
Re: Where 2 Oceans Meet But Do Not Mix, Confirmed By The Quran Over 1400 Years Back by tintingz(m): 9:00pm On Mar 09, 2019 |
najib632:Here is what Halocline is. In oceanography, a halocline (from Greek hals, halo- 'salt' and klinein 'to slope') is a subtype of chemocline caused by a strong, vertical salinity gradient within a body of water. Because salinity (in concert with temperature) affects the density of seawater, it can play a role in its vertical stratification. Increasing salinity by one kg/m3 results in an increase of seawater density of around 0.7 kg/m3. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halocline So what is up? From the shore of the environ where the Ocean is which is the Pacific, there are mountains, ice etc the ice form glaciers which is like a melting ice popping out huge amount of glaciers water and sediments that travelled to the offshore of the ocean but due to the density(thickness) of the glaciers water and salinity it doesn't mix instantly with the ocean given that line which is the Halocline, but they will eventually mix with time. This is like my third time of explaining this phenomena, there is no barrier and it's not miraculous! 1 Like |
Re: Where 2 Oceans Meet But Do Not Mix, Confirmed By The Quran Over 1400 Years Back by tintingz(m): 9:03pm On Mar 09, 2019 |
abdulazeez1002:I've provided a verse from the Bible or do you want me to quote it again? Kindly scroll up to the previous pages and help yourself. |
Re: Where 2 Oceans Meet But Do Not Mix, Confirmed By The Quran Over 1400 Years Back by najib632(m): 4:49am On Mar 10, 2019 |
tintingz:Nobody is arguing with the validity of your explanation but how did an illiterate man who has never seen a river know about it? |
Re: Where 2 Oceans Meet But Do Not Mix, Confirmed By The Quran Over 1400 Years Back by najib632(m): 4:54am On Mar 10, 2019 |
tintingz:Even if you have provided bible verses it is Allah who revealed them to a previous prophet even the, Qur'an verifies previous revelations like the Torah, Psalms and Gospel. |
Re: Where 2 Oceans Meet But Do Not Mix, Confirmed By The Quran Over 1400 Years Back by tintingz(m): 10:19am On Mar 10, 2019 |
najib632:Lol, Sailors have been passing through oceans for centuries even long before Muhammad wrote the Quran so it's very possible Muhammad and the people already knew about the Ocean that meet, this also happen in some areas in Africa, Europe etc. It's not something new to them. Your prophet only ignorantly turn it into a myth that Allah put a barrier between them which is false. 1 Like |
Re: Where 2 Oceans Meet But Do Not Mix, Confirmed By The Quran Over 1400 Years Back by tintingz(m): 10:50am On Mar 10, 2019 |
najib632:Lol, one of the account in the Bible is about some sailors in the ship discovering where seas meet. Allah didn't reveal anything to them, the Jews don't believe in Allah, Muhammad only hijack and copied from their mythology. The Bible exist long before the Quran came and they knew about the seas phenomena, so these things are not new things to them. Let me also demonstrate something for you. There's Holy Marvel comics, Holy DC comics, Holy Disney book, so I went to a room wrote my own stories by copying from these books and came out that my own book(named Holy Comix) is the true and last one that Aliex my God revealed it to me and verifies previous books and the writers. Those previous books are corrupt but mine is not, follow this Holy Comix and believe in almighty Aliex so that you will enter paradise called Quantux where there's free Android phones, flying cars, mansions, beer, cash, girls, immortality etc. That's how absurd you and your fellow Muslims sound and I'm very sure if someone like that come to you today and tell you these things you will call that person a psycho. |
Re: Where 2 Oceans Meet But Do Not Mix, Confirmed By The Quran Over 1400 Years Back by true2god: 3:13pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
najib632:This is a very bold claim; that your prophet has never seen a river. In one of the hadith, your prophet was recorded to have seen a river from where the sun set. Your prophet might be an illiterate but he was well travelled throughout the Arabian peninsula and would have passes through many waters in the course during his early years as a salesman for his late wife Khadija. In one of the hadith narrations, Mohammed said he would expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian PENINSULA and left no one except Muslims. Can you tell me the meaning of a PENINSULA and how Mohammed came to know that there is a peninsula in the Arabia if he hadn't seen one? Stop making a claim out of ignorance. |
Re: Where 2 Oceans Meet But Do Not Mix, Confirmed By The Quran Over 1400 Years Back by true2god: 3:24pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
najib632:So what's the basis for our argument if you now agree that, even if bodies of water meeting was written in the Bible, Allah also revealed it. Is the Torah, the injil and sabura no longer corrupt? It is you Muslims that are celebrating that it was recorded in the Quran, not in the Bible, that ocean meet but never mix, but when some facts are presented to you the language is gradually changing. I expected you to maintain the narrative that it was only recorded in the Quran hence authenticating the divine nature of the Quran. Even the Christians, whose scripture has a similar narrative, never made any claim that the phenomenon is divine and never name a big deal out of it. Muslims should find more miracle in the Quran and not this please. Ocean meeting and never mixing is never a miracle in this scientific world but can be a miracle to some illiterate and medieval Arab men. |
Re: Where 2 Oceans Meet But Do Not Mix, Confirmed By The Quran Over 1400 Years Back by Abrahamdgreat(m): 5:30pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
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Re: Where 2 Oceans Meet But Do Not Mix, Confirmed By The Quran Over 1400 Years Back by true2god: 7:36am On Mar 11, 2019 |
Abrahamdgreat:Kindly ignore this information; it is fake. |
Re: Where 2 Oceans Meet But Do Not Mix, Confirmed By The Quran Over 1400 Years Back by Abrahamdgreat(m): 8:43am On Mar 11, 2019 |
true2god:That much was obvious bro... But anybody still commenting is obviously wasting their time (both Christian and Muslim) because none of us are listening, it's just insults that's going round |
Re: Where 2 Oceans Meet But Do Not Mix, Confirmed By The Quran Over 1400 Years Back by najib632(m): 9:17pm On Mar 11, 2019 |
true2god:Whatever is their books that the Qur'an and Hadith verifies is correct, whatever we don't know about we don't say it is false or true, only what goes against the Qur'an and Hadith are false. I swear by Allah I will never change my stance because of a disbeliever only if I am obviously wrong. The Qur'an makes an obvious sign. |
Re: Where 2 Oceans Meet But Do Not Mix, Confirmed By The Quran Over 1400 Years Back by najib632(m): 11:09pm On Mar 11, 2019 |
true2god:Provide for me an evidence of the messenger of Allah S.A.W crossing a river during his travels and I will keep shut right now, in Islam we don't just assume things we prove it from the Qur'an and the Sunnah. Other religions allowed this that's why they became corrupted. The prophet Muhammad S.A.W was not referring to the entire peninsula because Christians are still allowed to settle there Imam Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani maintains that: The pagans are not allowed to settle specifically in the Hijaz region, meaning Makkah, Madinah, al-Yamamah, and their environs. It does not apply to other regions that are considered part of the Arabian Peninsula. This is because everyone is agreed that they may live in Yemen, though it is part of the Arabian Peninsula. This is the opinion of the majority of scholars. (Fath al-Bari 6/198) 1 Like |
Re: Where 2 Oceans Meet But Do Not Mix, Confirmed By The Quran Over 1400 Years Back by najib632(m): 11:32pm On Mar 11, 2019 |
tintingz:Hahahahaha mr ex Muslim, even a Jew will not say this about a Muslim prophet Muhammad S.A.W was an illiterate even the Qur'an verifies this and there was a revelation to prophet Isiah A.S. about the first encounter of prophet Muhammad S.A.W and angel Jibreel A.S. tintingz:The ex Muslim doesn't even know that prophet Muhammad S.A.W tribesmen were pagans, he came from a society that was 95% illiterate. If you claim that prophet Muhammad S.A.W copied the Jews then you must provide an evidence of him studying under a scholar. tintingz:Your demonstration would have made sense if the person was educated but prophet Muhammad S.A.W did not even know how to read so it's impossible for him to copy the people of the book, and any body that says prophet Muhammad S.A.W copied the Qur'an is an ignorant person where did he leave these verses? فَلَآ أُقۡسِمُ بِمَا تُبۡصِرُونَ (Sahih International) So I swear by what you see -Sura Al-Haqqah, Ayah 38 وَمَا لَا تُبۡصِرُونَ (Sahih International) And what you do not see -Sura Al-Haqqah, Ayah 39 إِنَّهُۥ لَقَوۡلُ رَسُولٖ كَرِيمٖ (Sahih International) [That] indeed, the Qur'an is the word of a noble Messenger. -Sura Al-Haqqah, Ayah 40 وَمَا هُوَ بِقَوۡلِ شَاعِرٖۚ قَلِيلٗا مَّا تُؤۡمِنُونَ (Sahih International) And it is not the word of a poet; little do you believe. -Sura Al-Haqqah, Ayah 41 وَلَا بِقَوۡلِ كَاهِنٖۚ قَلِيلٗا مَّا تَذَكَّرُونَ (Sahih International) Nor the word of a soothsayer; little do you remember. -Sura Al-Haqqah, Ayah 42 تَنزِيلٞ مِّن رَّبِّ ٱلۡعَٰلَمِينَ (Sahih International) [It is] a revelation from the Lord of the worlds. -Sura Al-Haqqah, Ayah 43 وَلَوۡ تَقَوَّلَ عَلَيۡنَا بَعۡضَ ٱلۡأَقَاوِيلِ (Sahih International) And if Muhammad had made up about Us some [false] sayings, -Sura Al-Haqqah, Ayah 44 لَأَخَذۡنَا مِنۡهُ بِٱلۡيَمِينِ (Sahih International) We would have seized him by the right hand; -Sura Al-Haqqah, Ayah 45 ثُمَّ لَقَطَعۡنَا مِنۡهُ ٱلۡوَتِينَ (Sahih International) Then We would have cut from him the aorta. -Sura Al-Haqqah, Ayah 46 فَمَا مِنكُم مِّنۡ أَحَدٍ عَنۡهُ حَٰجِزِينَ (Sahih International) And there is no one of you who could prevent [Us] from him. -Sura Al-Haqqah, Ayah 47 وَإِنَّهُۥ لَتَذۡكِرَةٞ لِّلۡمُتَّقِينَ (Sahih International) And indeed, the Qur'an is a reminder for the righteous. -Sura Al-Haqqah, Ayah 48 وَإِنَّا لَنَعۡلَمُ أَنَّ مِنكُم مُّكَذِّبِينَ (Sahih International) And indeed, We know that among you are deniers. -Sura Al-Haqqah, Ayah 49 وَإِنَّهُۥ لَحَسۡرَةٌ عَلَى ٱلۡكَٰفِرِينَ (Sahih International) And indeed, it will be [a cause of] regret upon the disbelievers. -Sura Al-Haqqah, Ayah 50 وَإِنَّهُۥ لَحَقُّ ٱلۡيَقِينِ (Sahih International) And indeed, it is the truth of certainty. -Sura Al-Haqqah, Ayah 51 فَسَبِّحۡ بِٱسۡمِ رَبِّكَ ٱلۡعَظِيمِ (Sahih International) So exalt the name of your Lord, the Most Great. -Sura Al-Haqqah, Ayah 52 Jaheel ex Muslim claiming ex sheikh Muslim |
Re: Where 2 Oceans Meet But Do Not Mix, Confirmed By The Quran Over 1400 Years Back by najib632(m): 11:35pm On Mar 11, 2019 |
tintingz:We don't want an assumption that he knew. Provide a direct evidence from his histroy wether he went to an area where rivers and oceans existed that will alow this news to reach him. |
Re: Where 2 Oceans Meet But Do Not Mix, Confirmed By The Quran Over 1400 Years Back by tintingz(m): 1:48am On Mar 12, 2019 |
najib632:My goodness. People of the past traded traveling from a different nation by sea, you can't tell me no one never passed through that Pacific ocean area(the gulf of Alaska) and also don't tell their adventures?. The Bible mentioned Sailors reaching where two seas meet, Aristotle mentioned seas having a barriers, even in Nigeria some areas like in Delta have similar phenomena there. Anyone with reasonable thinking will know these are phenomena already known by people long before Muhammad came, Muhammad only turn it to myths that his God put some imaginary barrier there. |
Re: Where 2 Oceans Meet But Do Not Mix, Confirmed By The Quran Over 1400 Years Back by tintingz(m): 2:39am On Mar 12, 2019 |
najib632: - Even the Shia and some other Muslim sects will disagree with you Muhammad was an illiterate. - You can't provide strong independent evidence Muhammad was an illiterate, you only read it from books that made the claim, you only believe in the myths you were told. - Even if we for assumption sake agree Muhammad was an illiterate it doesn't stop him from copying and composing the Quran, it's something he can call someone to write it for him which he eventually did according to some Muslim beliefs. The Quran was written by his companions and assembled together by them. - Since the Quran was assembled after his death, you aren't skeptical of anything? - The story of Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, Alexander, Solomon, Jesus etc to name the few. They were all Jewish and some ancient mythology, the Quran copied these stories, many Quran stories are rip-off of previous ancient myths, the Jews and some other tribes lived with the Arab pagans during pre-islamic era. If we are to go to court, we would sue the writer/s of the Quran for plagiarism if it were today. I gave analogy how i copied stories from previous comics and published it, I can be sue for copyright infringement. |
Re: Where 2 Oceans Meet But Do Not Mix, Confirmed By The Quran Over 1400 Years Back by bahtiyar(m): 7:13am On Mar 12, 2019 |
Yes, this is absolutely true. The world is a real miracle. It is always important to learn and gain new knowledge. Quran is the greatest miracle. Also, traveling around the world is very important to widen your horizon. This is why [url=http//bahtiyar-world.com/traveling-changes-your-life/]Traveling Changes Your Life[/url]. 1 Like |
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