When I see the extent to which mere dust and ashes feel that because they now have brains, that they now have the right to question God their Maker, because He has made them to be any more than the mere sculptures they were before He breathed the breath of life into them which made them to become living souls, i don't really blame them a times because if God the Creator had not trusted them with such ability, what will such ingrates have to question God with?

Because it's just like mere clay questioning the potter for making it into a sculpture and yet destroying the sculpture and grinding it to powder because He didn't like the outcome of it?

But of course that extent of humility is also what has endeared me to God the Creator to this extent, and makes me want to go to any length for Him, even to the death, because only Him can take such nonsense from mere dust and ashes that are only able to question Him because of the brain that He gave to them.

For if not for who God is, na who born man?

Hence this similar question by the famous psalmist, even a man after God's heart, who was also dumbfounded by the extent of God humility with respect to man, that made him ask God the question:

"What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him." Psalms 8:4 (KJV)

So what is really this glorified dust and ashes ingrate of a man, that God would yet be mindful of him?

For any right that man had to question God, if he ever had any, he relinquished the very moment he disobeyed the commandment of his Creator and sinned against Him in the beginning.

So regardless of what God chooses to do with him, after his rebellion against Him, man does not have any single right to question Him, because the only reason man is not yet dead is only because of his Creator's grace and mercy, for if not man would have long perished and returned to the dust and ashes that he truly is, and truly deserves to be.

Therefore even though God has decided to consider man's righteousness and obedience of His Word and uses it as a requirement to give man a second chance to have the eternal life and rights he lost as a result of his disobedience in the beginning, it's not that man deserves it, but only because God decided to have mercy on man.

Hence if God decides to take that away from man and goes ahead to destroy every human being from the face of the earth right this very moment, it would not take anything away from Him or make Him any less perfect than He is, because the only reason man isn't yet dead and completely destroyed is because of His grace and mercy.

But anyone who claims to believe in God and yet thinks otherwise, is only a temptation away from rebelling against God His Creator, even as man did in the beginning, because of such a foolish orientation.

Please learn how to summarize. biko?

ABCthings:
Please learn how to summarize. biko?

Maybe the writers of the book in the Bible should also learn how to summarize, right?

Because you think that everything can be summarized without leaving out key ingredients?

Maybe you think this is easy to summarize like your own useless thread of how many atheists there are in Nairaland?

Why not ask God to help you give you so much and an overflow of wisdom and knowledge that would make it difficult for you to summarize without leaving some important details out?

For imagine the spiritual capacity of this post but how relatively short the length is, but what's more important to you is how to summarize?

No wonder you were most concerned about not being a God zombie, because you seem to be most concerned about the most insignificant things.

That perhaps explains the difference between us.

#oversabiitooknowABCthings

jesusjnr2:
When I see the extent to which mere dust and ashes feel that because they now have brains, that they now have the right to question God their Maker, because He has made them to be any more than the mere sculptures they were before He breathed the breath of life into them which made them to become living souls, i don't really blame them a times because if God the Creator had not trusted them with such ability, what will such ingrates have to question God with?

Because it's just like mere clay questioning the potter for making it into a sculpture and yet destroying the sculpture and grinding it to powder because He didn't like the outcome of it?

But of course that extent of humility is also what has endeared me to God the Creator to this extent, and makes me want to go to any length for Him, even to the death, because only Him can take such nonsense from mere dust and ashes that are only able to question Him because of the brain that He gave to them.

For if not for who God is, na who born man?

Hence this similar question by the famous psalmist, even a man after God's heart, who was also dumbfounded by the extent of God humility with respect to man, that made him ask God the question:

"What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him." Psalms 8:4 (KJV)

So what is really this glorified dust and ashes ingrate of a man, that God would yet be mindful of him?

For any right that man had to question God, if he ever had any, he relinquished the very moment he disobeyed the commandment of his Creator and sinned against Him in the beginning.

So regardless of what God chooses to do with him, after his rebellion against Him, man does not have any single right to question Him, because the only reason man is not yet dead is only because of his Creator's grace and mercy, for if not man would have long perished and returned to the dust and ashes that he truly is, and truly deserves to be.

Therefore even though God has decided to consider man's righteousness and obedience of His Word and uses it as a requirement to give man a second chance to have the eternal life and rights he lost as a result of his disobedience in the beginning, it's not that man deserves it, but only because God decided to have mercy on man.

Hence if God decides to take that away from man and goes ahead to destroy every human being from the face of the earth right this very moment, it would not take anything away from Him or make Him any less perfect than He is, because the only reason man isn't yet dead and completely destroyed is because of His grace and mercy.

But anyone who claims to believe in God and yet thinks otherwise, is only a temptation away from rebelling against God His Creator, even as man did in the beginning, because of such a foolish orientation.

Funny! When last did you make a pot and have it complain? Is a pot the same as a human being?

People question God (they don't really, and just question, period) because they seek understanding. And God does answer those questions, at least going by the numerous times God was questioned in Scripture and answered. And the fact that even I can say, "what the fuq, God? and not get turned into stone is evidence one can. Besides, is it not by questioning God that one seeks God and gains understanding and all else that follows? I guess I'm not a lemming and want answers.

budaatum:

Funny! When last did you make a pot and have it complain? Is a pot the same as a human being?

People question God (they don't really, and just question, period) because they seek understanding. And God does answer those questions, at least going by the numerous times God was questioned in Scripture and answered. And the fact that even I can say, "what the fuq, God? and not get turned into stone is evidence one can. Besides, is it not by questioning God that one seeks God and gains understanding and all else that follows? I guess I'm not a lemming and want answers.

Yes you as a pot that God made, the only difference is that you are a living pot by the mercy and grace of God, and if God chooses to destroy you and all the other pots that He made, He'd still perfect and there'd be no single error in Him.

And if you think otherwise, then you're only one temptation away from rebelling against Him as man did in the beginning!

For God the Creator is permanently perfect regardless of what He says or does!

jesusjnr2:
Yes you as a pot that God made, the only difference is that you are a living pot by the mercy and grace of God, and if God chooses to destroy you and all the other pots that He made, He'd still perfect and there'd be no single error in Him.

Yes God the Creator is permanently perfect!

Human beings, as far as I know, are not pots! Pots have not got the capacity to question anything, though, in fact, it can question your competence by breaking if not made right, as is in fact what happened [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+18%3A16-32&version=NLT]here[/url], a pot questioning 'God' when God was about to destroy some human beings.

As to God's perfection, that's not the question here.

budaatum:

Human beings, as far as I know, are not pots! Pots have not got the capacity to question anything, though, in fact, it can question your competence by breaking if not made right, as is in fact what happened [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+18%3A16-32&version=NLT]here[/url], a pot questioning 'God' when God was about to destroy some human beings.

As to God's perfection, that's not the question here.

The only difference between human beings and pots is the breath of life.

So in truth human beings are justs mere pots that God put His breath into, hence they are no really different from mere pots but for the grace and mercy of God.

Hence God can destroy any or all of them anytime He chooses to and He would yet be perfect as He was and would always be.

budaatum:

Funny! When last did you make a pot and have it complain? Is a pot the same as a human being?

People question God (they don't really, and just question, period) because they seek understanding. And God does answer those questions, at least going by the numerous times God was questioned in Scripture and answered. And the fact that even I can say, "what the fuq, God? and not get turned into stone is evidence one can. Besides, is it not by questioning God that one seeks God and gains understanding and all else that follows? I guess I'm not a lemming and want answers.

How did they even come about comparing humans with pot? So much lack of intelligence in that.

Christians and confusion are Like 5 & 6.

You ask why God gave us freewill, they ask why if you would prefer God created u as a robot.

You use ur free will to questions some inconsistencies relating to God, they will want u to act like a robot by comparing u to an inanimate object like a pot (not even a robot) thereby indirectly telling u the freewill God gave u shouldn't be used.

Gosh

frank317:


How did they even come about comparing humans with pot? So much lack of intelligence in that.

Christians and confusion are Like 5 & 6.

You ask why God gave us freewill, they ask why if you would prefer God created u as a robot.

You use ur free will to questions some inconsistencies relating to God, they will want u to act like a robot by comparing u to an inanimate object like a pot (not even a robot) thereby indirectly telling u the freewill God gave u shouldn't be used.

Gosh

A pot is even much better than you, as it hasn't been proven itself to a waste of the breath of life as you have proven thus far.

Dust and ashes you with a waste of a brain.

frank317:


How did they even come about comparing humans with pot? So much lack of intelligence in that.

Christians and confusion are Like 5 & 6.

You ask why God gave us freewill, they ask why if you would prefer God created u as a robot.

You use ur free will to questions some inconsistencies relating to God, they will want u to act like a robot by comparing u to an inanimate object like a pot (not even a robot) thereby indirectly telling u the freewill God gave u shouldn't be used.

Gosh

Yes, it is surely unintelligent and ridiculing God to assume God will give us freewill to do whatever we want then claim it is wrong to question God as if God screwed up by giving us the ability to question! Surely if God wanted unquestioning pots God would just have made pots instead of breathing life into pots.

At least you both have something in common!

Mere pots that who think because they have been given a brain that they have a right to question God by what He does or doesn't do?

God certainly deserves better!

jesusjnr2:
The only difference between human beings and pots is the breath of life.

So in truth human beings are justs mere pots that God put His breath into, hence they are no really different from mere pots but for the grace and mercy of God.

Hence God can destroy any or all of them anytime He chooses to and He would yet be perfect as He was and would always be.

A god who destroys its creations as you seem to think, is incompetent. One only destroys what it has created badly, and badly created things are far from perfect, or even, "it is good", as all God's creations are.

jesusjnr2:
A pot is even much better than you, as it hasn't been proven itself to a waste of the breath of life as you have proven thus far.

Dust and ashes you with a waste of a brain.

God told you this I suppose.

jesusjnr2:
The only difference between human beings and pots is the breath of life.

So in truth human beings are justs mere pots that God put His breath into, hence they are no really different from mere pots but for the grace and mercy of God.

Anything God breathed into is not 'mere' and are very very different to that which God has not breathed into!

budaatum:

God told you this I suppose.

The pots have shown themselves to have been a huge waste of God breath, that made Him to regret ever putting His breath into them.

Such a waste and my God certainly deserves better, but there are those few pots who have proven themselves to be worthy of God's breath.

jesusjnr2:
The pot have shown themselves to have been a waste of God breath, that made Him to regret ever putting His breath into them.

Such a waste and my God certainly deserves better, but there are those few pots who have proven themselves to be worthy of God's breath.

And you know this because God told you that some of God's creations are "a waste of God breath" and also pointed those God regrets "ever putting His breath into"?

jesusjnr2:
Maybe the writers of the book in the Bible should also learn how to summarize, right?

Because you think that everything can be summarized without leaving out key ingredients?

Maybe you think this is easy to summarize like your own useless thread of how many atheists there are in Nairaland?

Why not ask God to help you give you so much and an overflow of wisdom and knowledge that would make it difficult for you to summarize without leaving some important details out?

For imagine the spiritual capacity of this post but how relatively short the length is, but what's more important to you is how to summarize?

No wonder you were most concerned about not being a God zombie, because you seem to be most concerned about the most insignificant things.

That perhaps explains the difference between us.

#oversabiitooknowABCthings

See the way you're stabbing me just because I made an innocent suggestion.

budaatum:

Anything God breathed into is not 'mere' and are very very different to that which God has not breathed into!

The breath is God's and not man's, hence if man rebels against the one that gave Him the breath of life, then he has proven that he's a mere pot and dust and ashes that would return to the ground from whence he was before God had taken him and put His breath into him.

can God sin?

TVSA:
can God sin?

plain no.

ABCthings:
See the way you're stabbing me just because I made an innocent suggestion.

Ok I'm sorry and i apologize for that, but please try and help people like me who are trying to give everything for the sake of the Kingdom of God if you're really of God.

For you can't keep making a mountain out of a mole, and be making things difficult for us.

Sorry, do, Pele you hear ABCthings.

jesusjnr2:
Ok I'm sorry and i apologize for that, but please try and help people like me who are trying to give everything for the sake of the Kingdom of God if you're really of God.

For you can't keep making a mountain out of a mole, and be making things difficult for us.

Sorry, do, Pele you hear ABCthings.

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budaatum:

And you know this because God told you that some of God's creations are "a waste of God breath" and also pointed those God regrets "ever putting His breath into"?

When God after He had put breath into all those pots, and afterwards, He regrets and it pains Him greatly that He had put breath into those pots, by the rebellious outcomes of those pots, and decides to destroy them in all of His perfection, it shows that those pots have been a waste of His breath.

Hence God has made those waste of His breath to become what they truly are, even mere pots without His breath, and He still remained the perfect God that He is was before hand and would continue to be forever and ever. Amen!

ABCthings:
plain no.

is killing not a sin?

TVSA:
is killing not a sin?

Something that is already dead without God's grace and mercy, cannot be said to be killed by God when God takes away His grace from that thing.

So it's just the reality and confirmation of what that thing truly is without God's grace.

TVSA:
can God sin?

If God can sin would He yet be perfect?

jesusjnr2:
Something that is already dead without God's grace and mercy, cannot be said to be killed by God when God takes away His grace from that thing.

So it's just the reality and confirmation of what that thing truly is without God's grace.

So people are killed because God takes away his grace?

jesusjnr2: .

Back to my point

You can atleast highlight the main points to make it more comprehendable esp. for people skimming through.

TVSA:
is killing not a sin?

On "killing" It depends on it context. you can't be generic here and for sin it will really help if you see sin as rebellion a gainst God and not just mere wrongdoing. 4

jesusjnr2:
A pot is even much better than you, as it hasn't been proven itself to a waste of the breath of life as you have proven thus far.

Dust and ashes you with a waste of a brain.

Pot, prove itself? Tomorrow u will say u are not insane.

U are even interacting with me at least and u are saying a pot, which u have never spoken with, something used by me to cook is better than me. I am only sorry for ur brain sha. U might think u are insulting me but ur are only telling the world how shallow u reason.

So tell me, will ur foolish God put me in hell and put a pot in heaven?

frank317:


Pot, prove itself? Tomorrow u will say u are not insane.

U are even interacting with me at least and u are saying a pot, which u have never spoken with, something used by me to cook is better than me. I am only sorry for ur brain sha. U might think u are insulting me but ur are only telling the world how shallow u reason.

So tell me, will ur foolish God put me in hell and put a pot in heaven?

Ok i'm speaking with a waste of God's breath, so I shouldn't expect him to able to comprehend any further than his ignorance and foolishness.

Because your waste of God's breath does not let you know that, a pot that is giving the same breath that you have wouldn't be any different from you.

Or do you want the Creator whose breath you're wasting, to take away His breath from you with which you're using to rebel against him, so that you see how different you are from the pot?

Such a waste of God's breath up till now, maybe will be a waste of God's breath till the God's breath gets taken away from him.

ABCthings:
On "killing" It depends on it context. you can't be generic here and for sin it will really help if you see sin as rebellion a gainst God and not just mere wrongdoing. 4

what of the context of God killing innocent babies in Egypt? or is that justified too? and also, are there wrong doings that are not against God?