budaatum:

How is it common sense for God to constrain me to love my neighbours then for that God not to show me how by leading by example? Would I not love my neighbours just as much as my God shows me to?

Again, the argument here is; if you were created by something or someone, it appeals to logic that this something or someone has full inalienable right over you, to do with you however it pleases. Similarly like we as humans have over every creations we have made.

the same moral constraints to do not apply to both you and the creator, No, it obviously is above any petty morals that may govern you by its own prescriptions or yours.

budaatum:

It is your destroying God that I call tyrannical, jnr, and not the perfect, merciful, loving, stick to his word and not just create unquestioning pots Almighty God.

Please do not mistake the one for the other.

You mean your perfect, merciful, loving etc., God is different from the God that destroyed the Earth with a flood, and that destroyed all the living souls in Sodom and Gomorrah etc.?

johnydon22:
Again, the argument here is; if you were created by something or someone, it appeals to logic that this something or someone has full inalienable right over you, to do with you however it pleases. Similarly like we as humans have over every creations we have made.

the same moral constraints to do not apply to both you and the creator, No, it obviously is above any petty morals that may govern you by its own prescriptions or yours.

Budaatum humble yourself and come and learn, even from the logical point of view but unfortunately your potty pride just wouldn't let you.

Atheism was then, but Jesus is now, and the earlier Hardmirror comes to the reality of that in Nairaland, the easier it would be for his mirror not to keep reflecting the past, but the present and the future of Nairaland.

So the box is now fully in Jesus court, hence if hardmirror wants to talk to jesusjnr, he must come to jesusjnr, otherwise he would be seen to be talking only to his reflection in the mirror, which may lead to insinuations of a hardmirror turn mardmirror.

Foolishness he says, unknown to the extent of his wisdom the foolishness of God is wiser than the wisdom of men, hence the foolish things of jesusjnr is what God would use to confound the wisdom of hardmirror.

So hardmirror should keep clutching at straws if he yet refuses to acknowledge the presence of the greatest ever mirror, for at the presence of this mirror every other mirror must bow.

Yes it is called the Jesusmirror.

And any mirror that shall fall upon this mirror shall be broken, and any mirror that this mirror shall fall upon shall be grinded to powder.

johnydon22:
Again, the argument here is; if you were created by something or someone, it appeals to logic that this something or someone has full inalienable right over you, to do with you however it pleases. Similarly like we as humans have over every creations we have made.

the same moral constraints to do not apply to both you and the creator, No, it obviously is above any petty morals that may govern you by its own prescriptions or yours.

Surely, if my creator had this so called inalienable right over me its creations we wouldn't even be having this discussion would we? Or where do you get to see anything you created talking not to talk of even talking back to you or going against you its creator's will? If you created something, say like a pot, and it decided to insist it be governed by its petty morals, wouldn't you just smash the damn thing to bits? I don't see my creator being petty as you seem to somehow believe it is.

As to God's moral or immoral constraints, that's way above my paygrade except my creator seems to have created me with a mind and freewill and the freedom to exercise one and fully enjoy the other, and if my creator didn't want me to do either, my creator could very possibly have just created a pot without either or smash me to bits, which it doesn't seem to appear to be in a hurry to do.

jesusjnr:
Budaatum humble yourself and come and learn, even from the logical point of view but unfortunately your potty pride just wouldn't let you.

Humble myself to you? You must have a very inflated ego, jnr!

jesusjnr:
You mean your perfect, merciful, loving etc., God is different from the God that destroyed the Earth with a flood, and that destroyed all the living souls in Sodom and Gomorrah etc.?

It would seem so, unless that God you think is God is going to destroy earth despite covenanting to destroy earth no more and after sacrificing its own only begotten son to save that same earth. It would be a waste if after all that that same God decides to give up on us all now, don't you think?

jesusjnr:
Yeah good!

Let the truth all come out!

Instead of thinking that someone now believes in God, but the God they truly believe in, is the one that is within their control.

It's got nothing to do with controlling God. I'm saying your representation of God is not the merciful loving non-destroying send its only begotten son God I've read about in my God book.

If God were as you describe I wouldn't even have a say in the matter, which I appear to clearly have. Your God would just smash an imperfect pot while my God seems to love me warts and all.

budaatum:

Humble myself to you? You must have a very inflated ego, jnr!

Yeah keep deceiving your highly egoistic self to thinking that someone calling you to humbly learn from the saying of another johnydon22, means to humble yourself before him.

Inflated ego indeed!

jesusjnr:
Yeah keep deceiving your highly egoistic self to thinking that someone calling you to humbly learn from the saying of another johnydon22, means to humble yourself before him.

Inflated ego indeed!

What I do before God is surely between God and I, and has absolutely nothing to do with you! Or did God ask you to go about measuring the size of the ego he put in my pot?

budaatum:

It would seem so, unless that God you think is God is going to destroy earth despite covenanting to destroy earth no more and after sacrificing its own only begotten son to save that same earth. It would be a waste if after all that that same God decides to give up on us all now, don't you think?

Is He or is He not?

"It would seems so" seems to me like trying to force yourself to acknowledge the hard truth against your own egoistic tendencies of a mere pot that thinks that because of the breath that He had been given by His Creator, that He should be now be questioning His Creator actions, and using it to determine if He's perfect or not.

Stop pretending and come out with the truth of yourself, for you are the mere dust and ashes that came to my other thread and claimed that God your Creator without whom you would only be a lifeless pot, was childish when He was destroying the pots which He had created, and had grown up to be an adult.

So stop pretending that this has anything to do with me or with God, but with your ego which makes you to be a waste of breath to that extent.

I'm glad though to have been able to bring out the real rebellious, egoistic you out, so as to know who i'm truly dealing with, and hence avoid unpleasant surprises, where I would be thinking of you as something else, and pow, the real you would come without any warning.

So now i know what to expect of you in this respect, and hence no more surprises.

I still recommend that you humble yourself though and heed the wise words of johnydon22, even if you still think that that makes me egoistic. SMH.

budaatum:

What I do before God is surely between God and I, and has absolutely nothing to do with you! Or did God ask you to go about measuring the size of the ego he put in my pot?

So now it's not about God, but between pots now, that makes one to think that he had the right to call the other pot egoistic, while the other pot does not have the same right?

My saying as such about you has hence been justified.

jesusjnr:

I still recommend that you humble yourself though and heed the wise words of johnydon22, even if you still think that that makes me egoistic. SMH.

You can recommend whatever you want but I guess you think you are recommending it to a pot who hasn't got a choice and not to a human being with a God given mind and an ego and an ability to choose. All I can say is, good luck with that.

jesusjnr:
So now it's not about God, but between pots now, that makes one to think that he had the right to call the other pot egoistic, while the other pot does not have the same right?

My saying as such about you has hence been justified.

You really are amusing. I'm sure it isn't your ego that makes you think whatever you may think about buda matters a tiny ounce worth to anyone.
You sound like one who on buda's judgement day would be standing beside God going, "God, that's buda! Throw buda in hell for buda has an ego". Why you don't think God might tell you to mind the forest in your own eye, is what's amusing.

jesusjnr:
May I ask you a simple question?

How many insane persons that should be detained in the asylum have created a human being before?

Jim Jones, Marcus Delon, David Koresh and others all believed they were gods and they had the right to kill their followers

TVSA:

Jim Jones, Marcus Delon, David Koresh and others all believed they were gods and they had the right to kill their followers

You see how a simple question has got you chasing shadows?

That's how people still fail a simple question that they could easily answer.

So when you are ready with the answer to my simple question, you get back to me.

budaatum:

I assure you, most of us would want nothing to do with such a God unless we want to justify our own hannibalistic behaviour!

and this God is the moral standard

jesusjnr:
You see how a simple question has got you chasing shadows?

That's how people still fail a simple question that they could easily answer.

So when you are ready with the answer to my simple question, you get back to me.

so it's now chasing shadows because these psychos are not your god? No wonder Christians see all what's wrong in Islam but they are blind to the atrocities of their own god.

TVSA:
so it's now chasing shadows because these psychos are not your god? No wonder Christians see all what's wrong in Islam but they are blind to the atrocities of their own god.

Simply tell me how many of those criminally insane persons in the asylum have created a single human being before, otherwise you can forever hold your peace, that the Creator of man would yet be perfect even if He decides to destroy all of the human beings that He had Created, for only He who gave them life has the right to take their life.

#Lostconfusedsatanzombie

jesusjnr2:
Simply tell me how many of those criminally insane persons in the asylum have created a single human being before, otherwise you can forever hold your peace, that the Creator of man would yet be perfect even if He decides to destroy all of the human beings that He had Created, for only He who gave them life has the right to take their life.

#Lostconfusedsatanzombie

You are right, only god can slaughter children and still be perfect, because he created them to be destroyed. He can do whatever he wants. No wonder he bleeped Joey's girlfriend without remorse.

TVSA:
You are right, only god can slaughter children and still be perfect, because he created them to be destroyed. He can do whatever he wants. No wonder he bleeped Joey's girlfriend without remorse.

Thank you very much for at least finally admitting that much about the perfect Creator, even though it was with so much reluctance and grief in your heart.

Yeah the Creator has every right to destroy whatsoever He created however He chooses to, and would still the perfect Creator that He is, and the created have no single right to question the Creator for what chooses to do with what He created.

But as for you mere dust and ashes that has proven yourself a waste of His breath thus far, you can keep up with your blasphemy of your Creator with the ability that He'd given you until the day that He takes it from you and you return to the dust and ashes that you truly are and that you truly deserve to be.

jesusjnr2:
Thank you very much for at least finally admitting that much about the perfect Creator, even though it was with so much reluctance and grief in your heart.

Yeah the Creator has every right to destroy whatsoever He created however He chooses to, and would still the perfect Creator that He is, and the created have no single right to question the Creator for what chooses to do with what He created.

But as for you mere dust and ashes that has proven yourself a waste of His breath thus far, you can keep up with your blasphemy of your Creator with the ability that He'd given you until the day that He takes it from you and you return to the dust and ashes that you truly are and that you truly deserve to be.

why are you mad for your god? is he that helpless that you have to wail for him? can't you pull an Elijah on me? if he is living, tell him to send fire down

TVSA:
You are right, only god can slaughter children and still be perfect, because he created them to be destroyed. He can do whatever he wants. No wonder he bleeped Joey's girlfriend without remorse.

Ha-ah madam, did you notice your nose growing? Please explain how and what is it a person gets fairked with. Madam he didn't fairk Mary and besides most importantly to note, He actually sought consent before His power rested and overshadowed her

TVSA:
why are you mad for your God? Is He that helpless that you have to wail for Him? Can't you pull an Elijah on me? if He is living, tell Him to send fire down

Does it grate if anyone is passionate about God? Does it spoil your day? Pulling down an Elijah is the least of what should be in your bucket wish list. Maybe if you prove yourself worthy, of it, He might send down fire, just especially for you a very important person.

TVSA:
why are you mad for your god? is he that helpless that you have to wail for him? can't you pull an Elijah on me? if he is living, tell him to send fire down

Not I don't need to waste such fire on mere dust and ashes as yourself for I am not here to destroy mens' live but to save them, even just as my Master taught me.

If you're that desperate for death you can go and huge a transformer, or even jump into a well, etc., then you'd see the reality of your dust and ashes self, without the breath of the Creator that made you feel that you can blaspheme against your Creator, but your perfect Creator would still remain perfect as He is and would always be.

As for madness, you should ask yourself why you are mad for your own god, Satan, to whom you are a zombie, and being used by him to blaspheme against your Creator, who gave you breath.

At least you should be able to hence tell, which madness of the two is better.

MuttleyLaff:
Ha-ah madam, did you notice your nose growing? Please explain how and what is it a person gets fairked with. Madam he didn't fairk Mary and besides most importantly to note, He actually sought consent before His power rested and overshadowed her

Does it grate if anyone is passionate about God? Does it spoil your day? Pulling down an Elijah is the least of what should be in your bucket wish list. Maybe if you prove yourself worth, He might send down fire, just especially for you a very important person.

I'm only joking, it's just a myth, don't take it serious . Like when we argue superman vs batman.

jesusjnr2:
Not I don't need to waste such fire on mere dust and ashes as yourself for I am not here to destroy mens' live but to save them, even just as my Master taught me.

If you're that desperate for death you can go and huge a transformer, or even jump into a well, etc., then you'd see the reality of your dust and ashes self, without the breath of the Creator that made you feel that you can blaspheme against your Creator, but your perfect Creator would still remain perfect as He is and would always be.

As for madness, you should ask yourself why you are mad for your own god, Satan, to whom you are a zombie, and being used by him to blaspheme against your Creator, who gave you breath.

At least you should be able to hence tell, which madness of the two is better.

thrash. has your god lost his balls that he cannot perform again? tell your sissy imaginary friend to prove himself, stop defending him

TVSA:
thrash. has your god lost his balls that he cannot perform again? tell your sissy imaginary friend to prove himself, stop defending him

You have not even survived a confrontation with a mere dust and ashes that has proven himself not to be a waste of his Creator breath, and yet you are looking for his Creator, Lol!

Maybe instead since I have done justice to my defence of the Creator, at your expense, you are the one that should stop speaking for your god, Satan, because you've shown that he gave you an oversize job to do, that to answer a simple question, you're dancing all over the place more than a Michael Jackson.

So Satan zombie tell your master to speak for himself, that you've tried your best for him, but this one pass your level.

jesusjnr:
Whatever it is, it's better than being a waste of His breath!

I liken your God to a pot, he has no breath to give neither has he any to take

frank317:


I liken your God to a pot, he has no breath to give neither has he any to take

Can any thing less foolish come out of the mouth of a waste of God breath?

TVSA:


and this God is the moral standard

The image of god being portrayed here by op is a moral standard? I bet you if an ordinary human being behaves like op's god we'd very likely all gang up and bash its head in with a rock!

jesusjnr2:
You have not even survived a confrontation with a mere dust and ashes that has proven himself not to be a waste of his Creator breath, and yet you are looking for his Creator, Lol!

Maybe instead since I have done justice to my defence of the Creator, at your expense, you are the one that should stop speaking for your god, Satan, because you've shown that he gave you an oversize job to do, that to answer a simple question, you're dancing all over the place more than a Michael Jackson.

So Satan zombie tell your master to speak for himself, that you've tried your best for him, but this one pass your level.

I never claimed satan as god, except you are too obtuse to know that atheists don't believe in satan either. God and Satan are both figment of your imagination. You are obsessed with your imaginary friend and enemy.

budaatum:

The image of god being portrayed here by op is a moral standard? I bet you if an ordinary human being behaves like op's god we'd very likely all gang up and bash its head in with a rock!

"Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." the most hypocritical saying ascribed to Jesus