slawomir:
Inec is stupid
Card readers that were reading cloned pvc

Don't argue with me because i was an ApO2 in Benin city

Card reader is a scam!!!

I was PO in Kaduna. I saw about 4 authentic PVC that the 2 card readers in my PU refused to read for what ever reason. I saw an authentic PVC that was split in two but the card reader read it. I saw an authentic PVC that the entire face was wiped off but the card reader read it.

There is no way a cloned PVC would read when other authentic PU cards were not even acredited.

You guys are being misled.

naijapips04:


So you know that there's an INEC database. Good. when that database data is not tallying with what was announced globally. so INEC would have to show us individual what different collation officers transmitted to them as the result and the disparity between that and what was announced globally as the state results.

Where did you get the INEC database that you conclude it does not tally?

Collation officers don't transmit results. The collate results and put them in a result sheet. Only a result sheet shows the results, there are no results from any INEC database. Even if there is, the result would not be acceptable to the electoral law.

Xxpress:

You are wrong. The card reader used in 2015 is different to the one used this year

Absolutely incorrect, its the same thing.

They only purchased extra to provide spares. They also purchased more spare batteries, chargers and generators. The spares were among those that were deployed to replace the burnt ones in Enugu INEC fire.

Its the acreditation app that was updated. In 2015 the card reader didn't transmit acreditation data like the one in 2019.

Though INEC installed an e-collation app but was not functional.

The card reader is basically an android 4.2 phone.

SillyMods:

You're missing the big picture which is that the card reader stores and transmits number of accredited voters but NOT THE ACTUAL NUMBER OF VOTES OR WHO VOTERS ACTUALLY VOTED FOR.

Again, the card reader didn't record the party a voter voted for. So, how did Atiku arrive at those figures from the so-called INEC server which doesn't contain such?

let me inform you that inec deployed some corpers as RATECH to oversee all card readers. Incase a card reader is faulty, is there duty to rectified it. There duty is not limited to that. There were also to make use of e-collation app in that card reader to enter the result of each polling unit and transmitt it electronically to inec server. Some were giving inec z-pad tablet for such exercise.

Akingun1990:

No, there is an interphase on the Smart card reader that says E-collation, once you are in this phase you send the total accredited number of voters and ALSO the specific number of each political party votes, Mind you this concluded election, most party were not duly represented on the smart card platform, nonetheless the major contenders I. e PDP and APC were represented and the result ascribed to each political party in conformity with the results obtained from elections broad sheets from polling unit were transmitted to INEC, So I wouldn't know wether INEC sieves the results from accreditation at there back end server.....

It wasnt working.

When you click on it, it displays an error message.

I was PO and had a voting point. That means we had 2 card readers and both e-collation app didnt open in both elections. The tech guy comfirmed that the feature wasnt deployed.

adanny01:


Absolutely incorrect, its the same thing.

They only purchased extra to provide spares. They also purchased more spare batteries, chargers and generators. The spares were among those that were deployed to replace the burnt ones in Enugu INEC fire.

Its the acreditation app that was updated. In 2015 the card reader didn't transmit acreditation data like the one in 2019.

Though INEC installed an e-collation app but was not functional.

The card reader is basically an android 4.2 phone.

Say what your sure of. The e-collation app was very functional. It requires strong network to run.

henrolevra:

let me inform you that inec deployed some corpers as RATECH to oversee all card readers. Incase a card reader is faulty, is there duty to rectified it. There duty is not limited to that. There were also to make use of e-collation app in that card reader to enter the result of each polling unit and transmitt it electronically to inec server. Some were giving inec z-pad tablet for such exercise.

You need to answer these questions then

I understand your point clearly. The questions remain:

1. Did INEC officials use the e-collation in all polling units?

2. If the above was actually done, isn't it a violation of the Electoral Act which forbids electronic transmission of election result?

3. If #1 above was indeed done, will it be superior to the manual collation and announcing of results which is what the EA recognizes?

4. How would Atiku and PDP have known what's in INEC server without hacking it or compromising INEC and/or indeed tampered with INEC server?

SillyMods:

I understand your point clearly. The questions remain:

1. Did INEC officials use the e-collation in all polling units?

2. If the above was actually done, isn't it a violation of the Electoral Act which forbids electronic transmission of election result?

3. If #1 above was indeed done, will it be superior to the manual collation and announcing of results which is what the EA recognizes?

4. How would Atiku and PDP have known what's in INEC server without hacking it or compromising INEC and/or indeed tampering with INEC server?

Guy, you make sense die.

These people seem like the lost their senses o. As far as am concerned, this election was far more credible to 2015 elections.

Atiku is just a very bad loser and think he had premedicated his plan to drag the credibility of the election in the mud.

I just pity Mahmud Yakubu who has done his best but PDP will never give him credit and instead he gets insults.

Nigeria is a hard country to lead.

adanny01:


It wasnt working.

When you click on it, it displays an error message.

I was PO and had a voting point. That means we had 2 card readers and both e-collation app didnt open in both elections. The tech guy comfirmed that the feature wasnt deployed.

It require a strong network to run. I was a tech personnel too. Z-pads was latter giving to us to run the e-collation at our inec state hdqrt.

SillyMods:

You need to answer these questions then

I understand your point clearly. The questions remain:

1. Did INEC officials use the e-collation in all polling units?

2. If the above was actually done, isn't it a violation of the Electoral Act which forbids electronic transmission of election result?

3. If #1 above was indeed done, will it be superior to the manual collation and announcing of results which is what the EA recognizes?

4. How would Atiku and PDP have known what's in INEC server without hacking it or compromising INEC and/or indeed tampered with INEC server?

I am not an inec officiai nor a lawyer that knows what electoral law entails. I am not holding brief for any of the candidate. Just to clear the view of majority opinions that inec backend server does not have the number votes each party scored from each polling unit.

naijapips04:
This OP is a big full stop, period.

Information from INEC server were transmitted by the different collation officers and not from the card readers.

APC are jittery already.

And collation officers only transmit result already announced at collation Centers which in total amount to 15m apc and 11m pdp simple

naijapips04:


let me test your intelligence even tho I know it's useless.

what do collation officers transmit ?

Total 15m apc 11m pdp
What was announced at collocation Centers was what was transmitted to the server and not the other way round.

henrolevra:

let me inform you that inec deployed some corpers as RATECH to oversee all card readers. Incase a card reader is faulty, is there duty to rectified it. There duty is not limited to that. There were also to make use of e-collation app in that card reader to enter the result of each polling unit and transmitt it electronically to inec server. Some were giving inec z-pad tablet for such exercise.

Gbam buhhari is gone

SillyMods:

Atikuloser, collation officers only transmit results manually. It's what has been announced manually that is latter stored in INEC database.

The card reader only sends record of accredited voters and not result of the actual voting because the card reader wouldn't know who voted for which party.

Mr man, the PO actually records the data of the election after sorting and counting and transmits it to inec server, ask any corper that was involved in the election, what inec is saying is just rubbish, on the card reader, there is an e-collation app, used for this and each polling unit has their unique login username and password.

SillyMods:


And does it translate to who those accredited voters voted for?

And did the manually announced results at collation centers differ from what INEC Chairman eventually announced?

Common sense is rare o.

Atiku is chasing shadows.

Let Baba Meikudi continue spending, afterall it's Nigeria money.

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E collation is prohibited by the existing electoral act. If you did that it was just for procedural convenience . The court will outrightly rect that as evidence. You just wasted your time. For now card readers are only meant for accreditations.










What would you say about places that used manual accreditation in the north? does the card readers know the no of those that are manually accredited?then to the poster I attended INEC training and one question INEC should answer is since they claim that the Card reader only transmits number of accredited voters , then what does the E-collation (uploading of the different parties results after counting using the same card reader) that we did used for? I am beginning to think that Atiku has a point
E collation is prohibited by the existing electoral act. If you did that it was just for procedural convenience . The court will outrightly reject that as evidence. You just wasted your time. For now card readers are only meant for accreditations.

pdp are just hallucinating with this nonsense that will not get them anywhere...tueh...atiku lost fair and square...if you repeat this exercise atiku ll still lose

baganas:

And collation officers only transmit result already announced at collation Centers which in total amount to 15m apc and 11m pdp simple

not according to INEC servers. INEC servers collate results announced at units and ward levels. And that is looking different from what the state HQ has announced. Something fishy man. Rotten fish.

The Will Nigeria, reporting from SAN FRANCISCO.

APC please try another method.

Trolla:


Mr man, the PO actually records the data of the election after sorting and counting and transmits it to inec server, ask any corper that was involved in the election, what inec is saying is just rubbish, on the card reader, there is an e-collation app, used for this and each polling unit has their unique login username and password.

Help answer these questions then:

1. Did INEC officials use the e-collation in all polling units?

2. If the above was actually done, isn't it a violation of the Electoral Act which forbids electronic transmission of election result?

3. If #1 above was indeed done, will it be superior to the manual collation and announcing of results which is what the EA recognizes?

4. How would Atiku and PDP have known what's in INEC server without hacking it or compromising INEC and/or indeed tampering with INEC server?

SillyMods:

Atikuloser, collation officers only transmit results manually. It's what has been announced manually that is latter stored in INEC database.

The card reader only sends record of accredited voters and not result of the actual voting because the card reader wouldn't know who voted for which party.

so you never heard of e collation, after every election the PO of that pulling unit sends the result of the election electronically, it has all the parties on it all you need to do is to input their score against their party logo n submit it to inec database.

SillyMods:

You're missing the big picture which is that the card reader stores and transmits number of accredited voters but NOT THE ACTUAL NUMBER OF VOTES OR WHO VOTERS ACTUALLY VOTED FOR.

Number of accredited voters is different from number of votes in the sense that there could be accredited voters who didn't vote (I personally saw voters leaving behind one or two ballot papers unmarked. Many got the three ballots but only used one!).

Again, the card reader didn't record the party a voter voted for. So, how did Atiku arrive at those figures from the so-called INEC server which doesn't contain such?

Oga, aren't you tired of explaining this to people who either have refused to understand or just don't know how it works.
The SCR blocked so many states from producing bogus figures.
I would keep quiet if I were you because it's not worth they stress.

SillyMods:

Help answer these questions then:

1. Did INEC officials use the e-collation in all polling units?

2. If the above was actually done, isn't it a violation of the Electoral Act which forbids electronic transmission of election result?

3. If #1 above was indeed done, will it be superior to the manual collation and announcing of results which is what the EA recognizes?

4. How would Atiku and PDP have known what's in INEC server without hacking it or compromising INEC and/or indeed tampering with INEC server?

My point is regardless of whether or not the manual collation and announcement of results is used, the results in inec's database has to tally with the manual results and i believe that's where Atiku is going to, how can he win on the electronic collation and the manual results say otherwise?(losing by over 4million votes or thereabout), wasn't it updated through the manual, it was exactly what each PO had in their reult sheet, that was recorded in the card reader and sent to the server......

Trolla:


My point is regardless of whether or not the manual collation and announcement of results is used, the results in inec's database has to tally with the manual results and i believe that's where Atiku is going to, how can he win on the electronic collation and the manual results say otherwise?(losing by over 4million votes or thereabout), wasn't it updated through the manual, it was exactly what each PO had in their reult sheet, that was recorded in the card reader and sent to the server......

That is where question 4 comes in. So, Atiku must have hacked INEC server to discover what's therein. And if that's the case, he could have doctored the content as well to support his claim of winning. Doesn't this make sense?

damsy2:
so you never heard of e collation, after every election the PO of that pulling unit sends the result of the election electronically, it has all the parties on it all you need to do is to input their score against their party logo n submit it to inec database.

There was nothing like E-collation of results and the PO doesn't or did not send any result electronically. (Result sheets were given and these sheets are signed by recognised party agents). Rather, what was / is sent is / are the numbers of ACCREDITED VOTERS. From there they will know numbers of people who were not AUTHENTICATED, (FAILURE TO AUTHENTICATE (FA) and (FAILURE TO READ) even though a window is provided for these sets of people to go ahead to cast their votes. What the PO does is to make sure that his result tally with whatever figures on the SCR. Like, number of votes cannot be more than accredited voters, void votes, used ballot papers etc must not be above the number of accredited voters. Note that a little calculation is done here.

Well, that is not completely true.
The Smart Card Readers(SCR) aside data accreditation were equally used for collection of results from the poling units during the 2019 elections.
The Presiding Officer for each poling unit for the election was given a password that enables him or her to enter the result of the voting for each election right from the poling units. These results are entered on the SCRs and sent to INEC server.

The aim is to curtail the discrepancy and irregularities that may occur between
results announced at the poling units and the ones that are finally brought at the Collation center. This equally safeguards the results in a situation where the SCRs are snatched by thugs and/or damaged.

After an election, every APO 1 and PO sends their results to INEC server using the smart card reader.
Most times in the presence of the RATech.

That's what INEC called e-collation.

So why are they saying smart card reader don't send transmit voting data ?

ITbomb:
Yes,

It's just the accreditation data that we want.

How can accredited votes be 1.2m yet final results says 1.8m?

This is what some people don't understand or comprehend. They keep arguing blindly. I am surprised. After this elections,i found out we have so many poorly educated youth in Nigeria especially on this forum

According to Atiku’s claim, all the other 71 presidential candidates didn’t score one
vote in the last election. Only himself and Buhari got all the votes. Their calculation
also shows that there were no invalid votes or cancelled votes.
Let’s do an example.
From Atiku’s acclaimed result from INEC server. GOMBE STATE
Accredited voters - 799,302
Atiku scored - 684,077
Buhari scored - 115,225
Total of Buhari + Atiku - 799,302, same as total accredited.
No votes for other presidential candidates.
No cancelled votes
No invalid votes
Let us take another one. KADUNA
Accredited voters - 1,430,145
Atiku scored - 961,143
Buhari scored - 469,002
Total votes Atiku + PMB - 1,430,145, same as accredited voters.
No vote for other presidential candidates.
No cancelled votes
No invalid votes
So apart from the question of how they got to INEC server to get this their fictitious
result, there is also a question of how they think that INEC server can have a result
different from the ones manually collated.
INEC server does not generate its own independent result. It is the result of the
process of voting, counting and collation all done manually that is fed into it after it
has been concluded. If you didn’t vote electronically, how would the server have a
different result?
So I ask again, who are these people hell bent on destroying Atiku? Why do they hate
him so much to want to drag him through all these mess?
# copied

Akingun1990:

No, there is an interphase on the Smart card reader that says E-collation, once you are in this phase you send the total accredited number of voters and ALSO the specific number of each political party votes, Mind you this concluded election, most party were not duly represented on the smart card platform, nonetheless the major contenders I. e PDP and APC were represented and the result ascribed to each political party in conformity with the results obtained from elections broad sheets from polling unit were transmitted to INEC, So I wouldn't know wether INEC sieves the results from accreditation at there back end server.....

God bless you my brother you have said it all!

SillyMods:

That is where question 4 comes in. So, Atiku must have hacked INEC server to discover what's therein. And if that's the case, he could have doctored the content as well to support his claim of winning. Doesn't this make sense?

I believe that's INEC's and APC's headache to worry about, I believe the court is more interested in the evidence and its validity, rather than the means through which it was gotten, for all we know there could be a mole in INEC's ICT team or Leadership rather than the alleged hack, all we want to know is how true the evidence is.