mjksho:

Caveat: verify the process before making any online payment whenever it comes to a naija govt agency. You might pay and still be stuck in limbo.

@bolded. I remember when I wanted to get my Intl passport. I decided to go through the online route. I paid and printed my documents. Got to the immigration office and one officer there told me that I'm whining myself. He said if I wanted an Intl passport I will pay at the office physically. I had to pay and start again. I dont know where that first payment went to as if it's not the same immigration office's account i paid to. See how Nigeria chop my money

Very correct!

LagosismyHome:


I dont really support pursuing something without parent's blessing especially for first degree...... Even with full scholarship there are still some expenses. How will that be paid?... application fee, visa, servis , transport, accomodation .. if they dont want to support it maybe they are been sensible of living within their means

That been said ... you finish school 2015. Which is 4 years ago . What you been doing since ?. And how was your ssce / secondary school result. Those are factors in scholarship assessment

Chidon40:
I applied to only one university. what should I do because all the transcript am seeing here shows you need to apply to more than one university?

I think companies will like to hire specifically for that reason. There was just no job, how many companies does Stanford know?

We have just one life to live n he spoke his mind.

Stanford was caught lieing about how they disburse scholarship money. That guy ran into $80k debt in student loans because he made his admission decision based on a lie.

Scholarship money was given to females n privileged males who have crazy experience under their belt but they claimed the scholarship is "need based."

If you are asking for help for SAT, let me hope you are academically sound and ready to destroy the exam and score high enough to secure full scholarship? It is one thing to get the funds for the SAT registration, it is another thing entirely to pass the exam--to justify the worth of the support anyone might give from here. If not, the fund would be wasted.

VisiFisiMisi:


Thank you sir, I'm 19years

6.

Sarcasticmofo:
How many months bank statement is needed at the embassy 6 months or 3 months?

AgreatMan:


I think companies will like to hire specifically for that reason. There was just no job, how many companies does Stanford know?

We have just one life to live n he spoke his mind.

Stanford was caught lieing about how they disburse scholarship money. That guy ran into $80k debt in student loans because he made his admission decision based on a lie.

Scholarship money was given to females n privileged males who have crazy experience under their belt but they claimed the scholarship is "need based."

Same way a lot of schools lie about recruitment numbers and prospects after graduation..... shebi na who get belle na them catch .... having walk through the shoe i now see some are smokes and screen . Those who think ( entering a good school is the automatic ticket to many things will soon discover that experience is the best teacher . A textbook and reality are two different things.

Bracelum , This guy i am sure if he was to predict his graduation prediction one week before resumption (textbook) and look at it now (reality) , it black verus white

Kendrix69:
Hi, I recently just graduated from a yabatech, I am planning to study for my masters in the USA , and I want to be dexterous in going about it, so I am planning for fall 2020, right now I am reading part 14 and also shortlisting schools, what are the steps I need to be taking to ensure my application is a success

Please house I need your inputs

guyz, i need ur opinion about this

heeedreeez:
Having your aunty and uncle statement of accounts plus Your Own personal soa as sponsorship means....Is it a red flag? I am thinking too many sponsorers can be a red flag... Guys what do you think about this?

Kendrix69:


Please house I need your inputs

Well, sometimes u need to put yourself in the shoes of people who might help u. Nobody knows anything about your plan cos u have actually said nothing.

You need to tell what u studied?
What u intend to study.
CGPA
Maybe u will need WES evaluation for your transcript.
GRE or GMAT or TOEFL (if u intend to write em)
N others

From there, I am sure a lot of people can say do this, or start from here.

Whistlebowing is ethical and yes, he didn't do anything wrong. BUT, he "wronged" one of the biggest schools in the US by snitching on them - a school where most of its graduate get jobs by recommendation and referrals. That is where his problem lies; so, instead of getting recommended he'll be left high and dry, because of the bad PR he's given the school.

Instead of applauding him, they'll punish him by making sure he never gets the type of job he wants or even one befitting his academic qualification, he'll then have to settle for the "crumbs".

sillysassysally:
Interesting...
It speaks to the dangers of a single story - as Chimamanda would say. However, it still stands true that job hunting in the US isn't beans.

With that said, I'm finding it hard to see the wrong thing in what he did that'll make recruiters avoid hiring him. Whistleblowing is ethical and many companies even encourage this. What do you think?

Lol... this also happened to me. Fortunately, God favoured me someone in on of the offices helped, I did everything without having to pay again. I didn't even have my birth certificate yet I got the passport lol

Best201195:



@bolded. I remember when I wanted to get my Intl passport. I decided to go through the online route. I paid and printed my documents. Got to the immigration office and one officer there told me that I'm whining myself. He said if I wanted an Intl passport I will pay at the office physically. I had to pay and start again. I dont know where that first payment went to as if it's not the same immigration office's account i paid to. See how Nigeria chop my money

Please fam, how much does the SEVIS fee cost?

LagosismyHome:


Same way a lot of schools lie about recruitment numbers and prospects after graduation..... shebi na who get belle na them catch .... having walk through the shoe i now see some are smokes and screen . Those who think ( entering a good school is the automatic ticket to many things will soon discover that experience is the best teacher . A textbook and reality are two different things.

Bracelum , This guy i am sure if he was to predict his graduation prediction one week before resumption (textbook) and look at it now (reality) , it black verus white

First, this guy does not have the right profile to compete for MBA jobs with his fellow Stanford GSB classmates. If he had the right profile, he would have secured one of the juicy jobs from companies that hire on-campus. The jobs are there for people in such elite MBA programs, but if you don't have the right profile or you don't interview well, you won't get it.

Second, Stanford can block opportunities for him. Their alums are in almost every company in the world (this is why graduates from elite schools tend to be more successful on the average). Also, when such things occur, the school sends emails to all their alums + current students and I'm sure the guy's name will appear on that email. So, the loyal alums might decide to screw the guy up. In fact, I believe this is the major reason for his predicament.

In summary, I still stand by my assertion. If you attend an elite school and you don't end up successful, then you've failed in using the massive resources at your disposal. It is not the school's fault. If 98% of your classmates secured a job of >$200K per year and you got nothing, then you should know that the fault is from you.

AgreatMan:


Well, sometimes u need to put yourself in the shoes of people who might help u. Nobody knows anything about your plan cos u have actually said nothing.

You need to tell what u studied?
What u intend to study.
CGPA
Maybe u will need WES evaluation for your transcript.
GRE or GMAT or TOEFL (if u intend to write em)
N others

From there, I am sure a lot of people can say do this, or start from here.

Okay, sorry about that
I studied computer engineering, my final Cgpa is yet to be out cos I just graduated, but my last cgpa was 3.21/4 , I intend to write the GRE and the TOEFL , and the field of study for my masters can either be computer , computer and elect or electrical engineering, they are related.my plan is to be admitted for the fall 2020 session

Not always so in every case sha. Life is not black and white. There have been people who attended elite schools and took advantage of all the resources but still people when attended average schools are doing better than them. It is good to want what is good and work towards it but still you can't calculate anything accurately about the future or predict accurately someone's success based on the school they attend.

At least someone who never went to high school is making decisions that is affecting over 180 million people LOL...

bracelum:


First, this guy does not have the right profile to compete for MBA jobs with his fellow Stanford GSB classmates. If he had the right profile, he would have secured one of the juicy jobs from companies that hire on-campus. The jobs are there for people in such elite MBA programs, but if you don't have the right profile or you don't interview well, you won't get it.

Second, Stanford can block opportunities for him. Their alums are in almost every company in the world (this is why graduates from elite schools tend to be more successful on the average). Also, when such things occur, the school sends emails to all their alums + current students and I'm sure the guy's name will appear on that email. So, the loyal alums might decide to screw the guy up. In fact, I believe this is the major reason for his predicament.

In summary, I still stand by my assertion. If you attend an elite school and you don't end up successful, then you've failed in using the massive resources at your disposal. It is not the school's fault. If 98% of your classmates secured a job of >$200K per year and you got nothing, then you should know that the fault is from you.

Gloryemo:
Not always so in every case sha. Life is not black and white. There have been people who attended elite schools and took advantage of all the resources but still people when attended average schools are doing better than them. It is good to want what is good and work towards it but still you can't calculate anything accurately about the future or predict accurately someone's success based on the school they attend.

At least someone who never went to high school is making decisions that is affecting over 180 million people LOL...

If you use your school's resources and you don't end up successful, then it is not the school's fault. Don't use this to justify complacency.

bracelum:


First, this guy does not have the right profile to compete for MBA jobs with his fellow Stanford GSB classmates. If he had the right profile, he would have secured one of the juicy jobs from companies that hire on-campus. The jobs are there for people in such elite MBA programs, but if you don't have the right profile or you don't interview well, you won't get it.

Second, Stanford can block opportunities for him. Their alums are in almost every company in the world (this is why graduates from elite schools tend to be more successful on the average). Also, when such things occur, the school sends emails to all their alums + current students and I'm sure the guy's name will appear on that email. So, the loyal alums might decide to screw the guy up. In fact, I believe this is the major reason for his predicament.

In summary, I still stand by my assertion. If you attend an elite school and you don't end up successful, then you've failed in using the massive resources at your disposal. It is not the school's fault. If 98% of your classmates secured a job of >$200K per year and you got nothing, then you should know that the fault is from you.

What do you mean by he doesn't have the right profile, so he didn't get a job.

Is it the same profile that he used to secure a seat at the number 1 or number 2 MBA program in d entire world?

I checked this guy's LinkedIn, dude has applied to almost one thousand jobs or so. So, did Stanford sent a mass email to every company in every corner of d globe not employ him?

This is a guy who started a company valued at $1.5M before it went under. A guy who spent a whooping 1500hours to expose Stanford, d guy Sabi something!

Which is even more difficult to get into? Stanford MBA or any other company on the wall street?

There is just not enough jobs n those business schools are notorious for squeezing money from u in exchange for some "advanced degree" which sinks people in loans they can't pay.

I never said it is the school's fault. Just explaining how many factors can be responsible.. That's it.. It is called Life.. Anyway we will all die in the end.

bracelum:


If you use your school's resources and you don't end up successful, then it is not the school's fault. Don't use this to justify complacency.

Gloryemo:
I never said it is the school's fault. Just explaining how many factors can be responsible.. That's it.. It is called Life.. Anyway we will all die in the end.

Stop sounding philosophical - this is reality! If you don't use resources at your disposal and achieve success like >90% of your classmates, it is your fault. It is the same "life" you all are experiencing and the fact they became successful shows that they worked harder or smarter than you.

AgreatMan:


What do you mean by he doesn't have the right profile, so he didn't get a job.

Is it the same profile that he used to secure a seat at the number 1 or number 2 MBA program in d entire world?

I checked this guy's LinkedIn, dude has applied to almost one thousand jobs or so. So, did Stanford sent a mass email to every company in every corner of d globe not employ him?

This is a guy who started a company valued at $1.5M before it went under. A guy who spent a whooping 1500hours to expose Stanford, d guy Sabi something!

Which is even more difficult to get into? Stanford MBA or any other company on the wall street?

There is just not enough jobs n those business schools are notorious for squeezing money from u in exchange for some "advanced degree" which sinks people in loans they can't pay.

If you don't understand why he doesn't have the right profile for an MBA job, then it shows you don't know about MBA recruitment (which is fine), which also implies that we shouldn't be having this conversation because you won't understand anything I say.

You're actually the one not being realistic lol... Like you don't know people who worked hard and all and still didn't get successful. It is well...still there is no 100 percent parallel line that links your success in life to your school choice... Your life is in your hands absolutely but life happens too. We should not ignore that.

bracelum:


Stop sounding philosophical - this is reality! If you don't use resources at your disposal and achieve success like >90% of your classmates, it is your fault. It is the same "life" you all are experiencing and the fact they became successful shows that they worked harder or smarter than you.

Kendrix69:

Okay, sorry about that
I studied computer engineering, my final Cgpa is yet to be out cos I just graduated, but my last cgpa was 3.21/4 , I intend to write the GRE and the TOEFL , and the field of study for my masters can either be computer , computer and elect or electrical engineering, they are related.my plan is to be admitted for the fall 2020 session

Well, I don't have all d answers because computers is not something I am familiar with. But of course, it's much easier for others to help since they have an idea of your profile.

1. Some schools will accept your HND, others will ask u to convert it via WES.
2. U will have to aim for high GRE scores but u can target schools that recognize Nigerians as "native speakers", this way, u don't need Toefl
Uni of Maryland
U of Texas at Arlington
U of Florida
U of Texas at kingsville
Morgan State University
U of Idaho
North Dakota State U
Texas A n M college station
North Carolina state U
John Hopkins U( heard they stingy)
N others

3. Prefer extra for GRE, u might realize it's d hardest exam u will ever write. Target August to write it.

4. I am sure people will help with your son when it's time.

5. Corner your recommenders well, don't let them write 2 sentence recommendation for u o.

Good luck

.

bracelum:


First, this guy does not have the right profile to compete for MBA jobs with his fellow Stanford GSB classmates. If he had the right profile, he would have secured one of the juicy jobs from companies that hire on-campus. The jobs are there for people in such elite MBA programs, but if you don't have the right profile or you don't interview well, you won't get it.


In summary, I still stand by my assertion. If you attend an elite school and you don't end up successful, then you've failed in using the massive resources at your disposal. It is not the school's fault. If 98% of your classmates secured a job of >$200K per year and you got nothing, then you should know that the fault is from you.

Then it means the admission process at Stanford is a failure. Why give admission to someone without the right profile according to you

I agree that MBA post work is really focus on getting candidate with work experience even Stanford knows this so why was he admitted? . I am sure he is not the only one ,so are schools admiting you to make their admission numbers when they know they are setting you up for a hard time.

My sister in her senior year applied to MBA Havard and made it to the final stage. Although the offer was for her to resume in 2 years time. I didnt want to discourage but was happy she let go of the idea on her own. Why should Havard MBA have such a program (2+2) ..... Which comes to my point. Not everything is that rosy . Some of these program you finish and dont achieve what you thought you would

[quote author=LagosismyHome post=77308060]I dont really support pursuing something without parent's blessing especially for first degree...... Even with full scholarship there are still some expenses. How will that be paid?... application fee, visa, servis , transport, accomodation .. if they dont want to support it maybe they are been sensible of living within their means[\quote]
[b]When I told my Dad about my dreams , He told me to get a scholarship first.
After which I told my Mum she paid for my passport and told me to hustle for the exam fee myself...
They're both ready but just scared abt the millions they did believe is being spent on an education in the states.[\b]

That been said ... you finish school 2015. Which is 4 years ago . What you been doing since ?. And how was your ssce / secondary school result. Those are factors in scholarship assessment

[b]No Ma,i didn't finish school 2015 , I got my Waec result 2015/2016... I finished my school 2016/2017, My school do allow one to take the WAEC Exam at ss2 which i did and pass it. I enrolled in a computer education center last year... My unofficial school transcript was very good(I got a cumulative GPA of 3.51 of 4.00) ... my school did provide me one when requested...[\b]

fairheart:
If you are asking for help for SAT, let me hope you are academically sound and ready to destroy the exam and score high enough to secure full scholarship? It is one thing to get the funds for the SAT registration, it is another thing entirely to pass the exam--to justify the worth of the support anyone might give from here. If not, the fund would be wasted.

Yes Sir , I'm ready and confident to score an high score in the exam... Because that's the only way I can show some appreciations

VisiFisiMisi:

No Ma,i didn't finish school 2015 , I got my Waec result 2015/2016... I finished my school 2016/2017, My school do allow one to take the WAEC Exam at ss2 which i did and pass it. I enrolled in a computer education center last year... My unofficial school transcript was very good(I got a cumulative GPA of 3.51 of 4.00) ... my school did provide me one when requested...[\b]

I didnt pick the date from a hat but from an old post of yours . Why are your dates not consistent

VisiFisiMisi:


by VisiFisiMisi: 8:43pm On Jan 02

To be frank , I finished High school around 2014/2015, I have my WAEC certificate. But haven't gotten into college I think that limited my options.

Gloryemo:
Not always so in every case sha. Life is not black and white. There have been people who attended elite schools and took advantage of all the resources but still people when attended average schools are doing better than them. It is good to want what is good and work towards it but still you can't calculate anything accurately about the future or predict accurately someone's success based on the school they attend.

At least someone who never went to high school is making decisions that is affecting over 180 million people LOL...

On what basis are you making this claim? I hope you realise that there's a difference between attending high school and not presenting a certificate?

LagosismyHome:


Then it means the admission process at Stanford is a failure. Why give admission to someone without the right profile according to you

I agree that MBA post work is really focus on getting candidate with work experience even Stanford knows this so why was he admitted? . I am sure he is not the only one ,so are schools admiting you to make their admission numbers when they know they are setting you up for a hard time.

My sister in her senior year applied to MBA Havard and made it to the final stage. Although the offer was for her to resume in 2 years time. I didnt want to discourage but was happy she let go of the idea on her own. Why should Havard MBA have such a program (2+2) ..... Which comes to my point. Not everything is that rosy . Some of these program you finish and dont achieve what you thought you would

I will blame the guy for not applying to the right kind of jobs for his profile. I saw the roles he applied to and compared them to his resume and to be honest, if I'm a hiring manager, I won't go further with his application, especially when there are other stronger candidates in his class. Since he lacked the right job profile for a Stanfordesque MBA candidate, he should have taken a step down to apply for smaller roles before pushing higher. One of the roles he tried was a PM role at top tech firms. Do you know the background of MBA students that get PM roles at such companies? His background was obviously not a fit and he should have applied to lower roles before growing to become a PM. Trust me, if that guy lands a PM role, it will be because the manager wants to give him a chance, not because he has the right profile for it. I can mention five other roles he tried that he wasn't a right fit for.


Harvard 2+2 is meant for people to be admitted and get work experience for 2 (4 is the maximum) years before resumption. They want you to have the right MBA profile before resuming - that is why they don't allow you resume immediately. So, this shows you that the schools know the importance of having the right profile before enrolling. The program is used by the school to attract talented college seniors and set them on the right path for business leadership. It is more competitive than the normal admission process and since your sister made it to the final round, I'm sure she would have gotten in if she tried the normal process.

The MBA admissions process is holistic (truly holistic). They don't look at only one section of your profile and they try to make their class as diverse as possible. The guy lacked the optimal work experience but had a first class undergrad degree and (probably, a gangster GMAT score). His recommendation might be stellar and he adds diversity to the class. Since Stanford GSB admits people with 0 work experience, his profile looked right to the eyes of the admissions officers. So, I won't fault the admissions team for recruiting him.

Since the MBA admissions process is controlled by humans, there is always the possibility of errors. A few wrong cases out of 450 is not a bad error margin for such a process.

Stanford accepts people with no work experience for MBAs but their average class work experience is ~4 years. So, you can see that the average class prepare their job profiles very well before enrolling. If you are below the average class average for work experience, it will be more difficult for you because you will be competing for the same on-campus recruiting jobs with people that possess more industry experience than you. To maximize the elite MBA experience, you need the right profile - you don't jump into it because it is a big name school.


When you have everything ready and you attend such elite programs, you have EVERYTHING you need to become successful. If you don't become sucessful, it is your fault because over 90% of people that pass through similar experience end up becoming successful.

Hello house....Got admission and funding for fall 2019 at Michigan Tech.I am really grateful to nairaland and everyone on this thread. I cant thank you enough. Anyone heading to MTU fall 2019...Abeg let's connect

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congrats.

Senorita123:
Hello house....Got admission and funding for fall 2019 at Michigan Tech.I am really grateful to nairaland and everyone on this thread. I cant thank you enough. Anyone heading to MTU fall 2019...Abeg let's connect