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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 11:27am On Apr 10, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Zinedine Zidane Recommends Lille’s Eden Hazard To Real Madrid

He might not be a confirmed member of Florentino Perez's Real Madrid team yet, but Zinedine Zidane has today recommended a player for the Spanish club to sign: Eden Hazard.

The Belgian international is one of the most highly-rated youngsters in Europe at the moment and is currently plying his trade with Lille in France.

This season he has been named as the best young player in Ligue 1 and is capable of playing on the wings or in the centre of midfield.

His talent and versatility have reportedly earned him interest from Barcelona and Arsenal, however, now Zidane has recommended him to Madrid.


Speaking to De Morgen, the French legend said, "I would take Hazard to Madrid with my eyes closed."

Whether or not Perez and the new regime at Madrid will be interested in players with a relatively low-profile such as Hazard is doubtful, but there is no questioning that he is a dangerous player at his best.

This season he has put in some superb display in Ligue 1 and is unlikely to cost Madrid too much if they do decide to sign him.

Perez is set to take over as president of the Spanish club on June 1, after the last potential candidate, Eduardo Garcia, failed to provide the guarantee needed to run.

James Walker-Roberts, Goal.com

https://www.goal.com/en/news/90/french-football/2009/05/29/1293532/zinedine-zidane-recommends-lilles-eden-hazard-to-real-madrid

So anybody zidane recommended is world class ?

Have you forget Neymar has been in the eyes of all European club since the days of Santos ?

Hazard at Lille is bang average ,hazard at Chelsea is even bang average till recently he became world class

Neymar has been class going to 6 years now ,barring injury dude will get you nothing less than 30 goals per season ,should i also talk about the assists?

Telling me hazard is world class at Lille is like telling me Nicolas Pepe is world class at Lille ,playing from the flank and got more better goal ratio than hazard compared to hazard days at Lille .
Hazard was an average player at Lille and even Chelsea till the past 3 years or so
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 11:30am On Apr 10, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


If Hazard was at Barcelona all these years, he would have earned it. However, his talent ability and consistency at the highest level makes him a World Class player. No denying it. Neymar's multiple nomination as the best player in the World is a good debate but let him hit a decade highs.

Hazard is world class no doubt but my argument is telling me he is world class at Lille ,dude was average.

Neymar has been regarded as world class at Santos,but I won't agree with that

neymar only became world class at his Barca second season
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 11:35am On Apr 10, 2019
C as dem just dey dash world class anyaw for this thread grin grin grin courtesy of andrew444


Even to players dt av never won any individual award let alone of winning trophy/laurels in deir cabinet grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 11:35am On Apr 10, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


For a player to be tagged World Class, the player has to be performing at the highest level for at least 10 years.

Most of this players tagged World Class are top quality players, not World class.

Even Van Dijk isn't. He is a top quality player. If he continues with this form for at least a decade, then we can tag him and the others World class.

Xavi, Iniesta, Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, Xabi Alonso, Ribery, Robben etc. Players who dominated the game for a decade or more. That is playing at the highest level for a long time.

With this, Aubameyang and the others are not World Class players. Certainly, top quality.
Van Dijk is world class. Kaka wasn't consistent for 10 years yet he was viewed as WC in his prime.
You can be world class and not have longevity.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 11:36am On Apr 10, 2019
elyte89:
C as dem just dey dash world class anyaw for this thread grin grin grin courtesy of andrew444


Even to players dt av never won any individual award let alone of winning trophy/laurels in deir cabinet grin

Bros who I dash World call nah ,you suppose know
Me

Please correct me where I am wrong
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 11:37am On Apr 10, 2019
edi287:

Van Dijk is world class. Kaka wasn't consistent for 10 years yet he was viewed as WC in his prime.
You can be world class and not have longevity.

This is what I am saying and oga good joe dey talk of 10 years ,if na so then almost all world class players go don clock 30 +
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:50am On Apr 10, 2019
andrew444:


So anybody zidane recommended is world class ?

Have you forget Neymar has been in the eyes of all European club since the days of Santos ?

Hazard at Lille is bang average ,hazard at Chelsea is even bang average till recently he became world class

Neymar has been class going to 6 years now ,barring injury dude will get you nothing less than 30 goals per season ,should i also talk about the assists?

Telling me hazard is world class at Lille is like telling me Nicolas Pepe is world class at Lille ,playing from the flank and got more better goal ratio than hazard compared to hazard days at Lille .
Hazard was an average player at Lille and even Chelsea till the past 3 years or so

You said Hazard was average which was not true. He was far from it and the best young player in Ligue 1. He was one of the hottest youngsters in Europe.

Finito.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:54am On Apr 10, 2019
edi287:

Van Dijk is world class. Kaka wasn't consistent for 10 years yet he was viewed as WC in his prime.
You can be world class and not have longevity.

Kaka can debate with the Ballon D'Or. To me, two or three sails but the Ballon D'Or can be the debate. However, he does not fit my criteria. However, six years in the highest stage plus the Ballon D'Or can sail.

However, the likes of Mane, Salah, Mbappe are far from it.

Van Dijk. At all. He still has a long way to go to be tagged World class. High quality.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:58am On Apr 10, 2019
andrew444:


Hazard is world class no doubt but my argument is telling me he is world class at Lille ,dude was average.

Neymar has been regarded as world class at Santos,but I won't agree with that

neymar only became world class at his Barca second season

Where did you get World class at Lille? I said he performed at a high level at Lille. Hazard was performing at a very high level. I remember then because he was one of the footballing raves.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 12:04pm On Apr 10, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


For a player to be tagged World Class, the player has to be performing at the highest level for at least 10 years.

Most of this players tagged World Class are top quality players, not World class.

Even Van Dijk isn't. He is a top quality player. If he continues with this form for at least a decade, then we can tag him and the others World class.

Xavi, Iniesta, Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, Xabi Alonso, Ribery, Robben etc. Players who dominated the game for a decade or more. That is playing at the highest level for a long time.

With this, Aubameyang and the others are not World Class players. Certainly, top quality.


This is not accurate at all. Several factors can hamper steady top performances from players over time. It doesn't take away anything from their quality. From your definition Kaka is not world class or even Modric. Also your point means young players can't be world class too. So Hazard, Aguero, Kante, Mbappe, Neymar etc are not world class.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 12:07pm On Apr 10, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Where did you get World class at Lille? I said he performed at a high level at Lille. Hazard was performing at a very high level. I remember then because he was one of the footballing raves.

You said world class at Lille ,I fear
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 12:08pm On Apr 10, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


You said Hazard was average which was not true. He was far from it and the best young player in Ligue 1. He was one of the hottest youngsters in Europe.

Finito.

Dude was average at Lille
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 12:08pm On Apr 10, 2019
iSlayer2:



This is not accurate at all. Several factors can hamper steady top performances from players over time. It doesn't take away anything from their quality. From your definition Kaka is not world class or even Modric. Also your point means young players can't be world class too. So Hazard, Aguero, Kante, Mbappe, Neymar etc are not world class.

Lol
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:10pm On Apr 10, 2019
iSlayer2:



This is not accurate at all. Several factors can hamper steady top performances from players over time. It doesn't take away anything from their quality. From your definition Kaka is not world class or even Modric. Also your point means young players can't be world class too. So Hazard, Aguero, Kante, Mbappe, Neymar etc are not world class.

I already stated Hazard is. Kaka has a good debate because he was on the highest level for six years and won the Ballon D'Or. Aguero is World Class. He has been on the highest level for over ten years. Keep in mind he was a key player for Independiente before his exploits at Atletico Madrid.

Kante is not, Neymar has a debate being among the top three players in the World for about three seasons and his longevity of over the years.

I just want people to understand that not every Tom, dick and Harry with some brilliant seasons becomes World class.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 12:11pm On Apr 10, 2019
andrew444:


lol BT like seriously you believe ?


How can someone say koullibally is not world class and auba ?

If there is an Epl defender better than koullibally it should be van dijk ,but I still even doubt self .


Of course I don't believe that.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:11pm On Apr 10, 2019
andrew444:


Dude was average at Lille

The Belgian international is one of the most highly-rated youngsters in Europe at the moment and is currently plying his trade with Lille in France.

This season he has been named as the best young player in Ligue 1 and is capable of playing on the wings or in the centre of midfield.


Unless this is your definition of average.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 12:14pm On Apr 10, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


I already stated Hazard is. Kaka has a good debate because he was on the highest level for six years and won the Ballon D'Or. Aguero is World Class. He has been on the highest level for over ten years. Keep in mind he was a key player for Independiente before his exploits at Atletico Madrid.

Kante is not, Neymar has a debate being among the top three players in the World for about three seasons and his longevity of over the years.

I just want people to understand that not every Tom, dick and Harry with some brilliant seasons become World class.

Haha. I should have guessed that's what you were after. I get your drift though.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:15pm On Apr 10, 2019
andrew444:


You said world class at Lille ,I fear

TheGoodJoe:


They are not World class players. Maybe except Hazard because he was up there as one of the best players in the World when he was at Lille. In a small club as that to pull off such brilliant performances, means he was operating at a very high level. Until now in Chelsea to me makes him a World class player.

Neymar has been up there too from his Santos days where he later became the best player in the whole of South America, to Barcelona and still doing his thing at PSG but, Neymar has not been up there up to ten years. However, in two or more years, if he keeps performing at a high level, he will be certainly a World class player.

So I can only point at Hazard.

Where did you get World Class at Lille? I said he was one of the best players in the World at Lille. Not he was a World Class player. I said it takes a long time to become World Class.

Hazard was far from average. He was the best young player Ligue 1.

Finito.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by isan(m): 12:17pm On Apr 10, 2019
OK valdes won everything is he a world class goalkeeper?
elyte89:
C as dem just dey dash world class anyaw for this thread grin grin grin courtesy of andrew444


Even to players dt av never won any individual award let alone of winning trophy/laurels in deir cabinet grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 12:24pm On Apr 10, 2019
TheGoodJoe:




Where did you get World Class at Lille? I said he was one of the best players in the World at Lille. Not he was a World Class player. I said it takes a long time to become World Class.

Hazard was far from average. He was the best young player Ligue 1.

Finito.

He was not one of the best player in the world at lille

He was average at lille

Finito
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:28pm On Apr 10, 2019
andrew444:


He was not one of the best player in the world at lille

He was average at lille

Finito

The truth is that you had no idea how hot Hazard was or how brilliantly he played there. If you did, you will not argue.

Every top club in football wanted him. There is no relationship between Hazard at Lille and Average. He was among the top performers in football. You are free to argue against fact.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 12:28pm On Apr 10, 2019
isan:
OK valdes won everything is he a world class goalkeeper?

Valdes matter dey complicated

Someone won the zamora trophy at barcelona for 6 times in a role ahead of one of the world greatest goal keeper casillas, thats says alot, zamora trophy is the best keeper in laliga

Highest saves in laliga also

Dude won best keeper in the champions league as at twice

You wanna judge him by his mistakes? who no dey make mistakes

Recently Despite barca always winning the league, jan oblak has won it mostly ahead of ter stegen so no b by keeping for barca

You can judge valdes from this information i just gave to you, if you doubt the info google is there.

Over and out
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:29pm On Apr 10, 2019
andrew444:


He was not one of the best player in the world at lille

He was average at lille

Finito

"I am pleased that teams like Arsenal and Real Madrid want to sign me,” before adding, “I know that Barcelona and Inter like me, but I am thrilled to play with Real Madrid or Arsenal," Hazard said a few weeks ago."

https://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2009/12/22/1704028/lille-starlet-eden-hazard-prefers-barcelona-move-report

You are free to keep saying average player.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 12:32pm On Apr 10, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


"I am pleased that teams like Arsenal and Real Madrid want to sign me,” before adding, “I know that Barcelona and Inter like me, but I am thrilled to play with Real Madrid or Arsenal," Hazard said a few weeks ago."

https://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2009/12/22/1704028/lille-starlet-eden-hazard-prefers-barcelona-move-report

You are free to keep saying average player.

All this news no mean anything so save your self the stress

Bayern munich and so many teams want hudson odoi does that make him world class?

Should i tell you teams that want nicolas pepe also?

So because arsenal madrid wan sign player the player na world class?

Save your self the stress and stop pasting those old links
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 12:50pm On Apr 10, 2019
TheGoodJoe:




Where did you get World Class at Lille? I[b] said he was one of the best players in the World at Lille. Not he was a World Class player.[/b] I said it takes a long time to become World Class.

Hazard was far from average. He was the best young player Ligue 1.

Finito.

How is that possible?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 1:04pm On Apr 10, 2019
i concur remember saying something similar some years back

my criteria for being world class:

1. be an exceptional performer in your role which all and sundry will acknowledge (not just club fans and country men)

2. personal awards won (best goalkeeper, top scorer, team of tournament etc)

3. churning out consistent good sometimes great performances over a long period of time for club and country

4. trophies won club or country

now if a player ticks all the boxes in the above mentioned criteria then i would consider him world class

TheGoodJoe:


For a player to be tagged World Class, the player has to be performing at the highest level for at least 10 years.

Most of this players tagged World Class are top quality players, not World class.

Even Van Dijk isn't. He is a top quality player. If he continues with this form for at least a decade, then we can tag him and the others World class.

Xavi, Iniesta, Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, Xabi Alonso, Ribery, Robben etc. Players who dominated the game for a decade or more. That is playing at the highest level for a long time.

With this, Aubameyang and the others are not World Class players. Certainly, top quality.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 1:50pm On Apr 10, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Kaka can debate with the Ballon D'Or. To me, two or three sails but the Ballon D'Or can be the debate. However, he does not fit my criteria. However, six years in the highest stage plus the Ballon D'Or can sail.

However, the likes of Mane, Salah, Mbappe are far from it.

Van Dijk. At all. He still has a long way to go to be tagged World class. High quality.
@ 2/3 ballon d'or, how many players can boast of 2? the way I see it the Messi/Ronaldo have gotten people to forget how it used to be in football. I think 10 is too much maybe 5yrs consistency at the top level and winning laurels along the way should mean you are world class
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 1:53pm On Apr 10, 2019
andrew444:


Dude was average at Lille
he wasn't, he was very good. won French league player of the season I think twice sef he also led Lille to the league

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:54pm On Apr 10, 2019
jihday:
@ 2/3 ballon d'or, how many players can boast of 2? the way I see it the Messi/Ronaldo have gotten people to forget how it used to be in football. I think 10 is too much maybe 5yrs consistency at the top level and winning laurels along the way should mean you are world class

If we go by a five years consistency, the person's performance has to be at a very high rate. But at the end, the picture is made.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 1:59pm On Apr 10, 2019
jihday:
he wasn't, he was very good. won French league player of the season I think twice sef he also led Lille to the league

E no mean

Yes he was good at Lille ,but world class ? Hello No

Old and washed John utaka won the French league with montepellier and was very vital ,they won it ahead of a psg team with zlatan .
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:01pm On Apr 10, 2019
chrisooblog:
i concur remember saying something similar some years back

my criteria for being world class:

1. be an exceptional performer in your role which all and sundry will acknowledge (not just club fans and country men)

2. personal awards won (best goalkeeper, top scorer, team of tournament etc)

3. churning out consistent good sometimes great performances over a long period of time for club and country

4. trophies won club or country

now if a player ticks all the boxes in the above mentioned criteria then i would consider him world class


Very brilliant and elaborate. Noted.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:03pm On Apr 10, 2019
andrew444:


E no mean

Yes he was good at Lille ,but world class ? Hello No

Old and washed John utaka won the French league with montepellier and was very vital ,they won it ahead of a psg team with zlatan .

Utaka was quality then but he did not maintain consistency for a long period of time. That is what he is pointing.

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