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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:05pm On Apr 16, 2019
NinjaMetahuman:
if he played that season without ronaldo, he wont get up to those goals without ronaldo to provide some of the assists.. have you thought about that or imagined it?

by the way, how old was he in 2015/2016 when that age became a factor 1-2 years later?
now answer once and for all, will age be a factor if he fails to score 18 goals next season?
if yes? why?



can you not differentiate btw games played reguarly and minutes accumulated from irregular playing time?
to fairly judge dybala he has to be given benzema treatment. or he has to play atleast as regularly as he did last season or whatever season you wanna use.


please point to where i disagreed that dybala wont meet his last season output? did i ever agree to use last season to judge dybala? do you have to lie?

That season Ronaldo provided 3 league assists for Benzema out of the 24 league goals.
How old was Benzema? 27-28yrs in 2015/16 which is close to the peak years of a footballer
Diego Costa is around the same age as Benzema compare his output in 2015/16 to last season or this season and know the effect of age on most attackers
Rooney too at 27-28 he was scoring 27 league goals by 31 6goals

If Dybala can get over 2000mins by the end of this season shows he was given relatively many minutes on the field almost similar to last yr

We dont need to compare Dybala to Benzema, the best is compare Benzema with Ronaldo to Benzema without Ronaldo. Then Dybala with Ronaldo and Dybala without Ronaldo

Its basic logic that when a heavy goal scorer gets into a team the output of others will reduce

If Ronaldo at his peak plays with Aguero, Kane Lewandski definitely their output will reduce

You cannot put 4 30goals a season striker into a team and expect them to score 120 goals, Someone has to suffer and it wont be the top dog like Ronaldo
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:07pm On Apr 16, 2019
raumdeuter:
Ronaldo is a problm to other attackers as he will take away a bulk of their goals

Are you willing to wait till end of season and compare Juventus attackers goals this season to the amount they score individually next season

For example Dybala scored 22 league goals last season, will he score this 22 league goals this season?[/b]

EvilMetahuman:
Ramdeuter
ofcause [b]we will compare dybalas own


Who posted this
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 3:31pm On Apr 16, 2019
raumdeuter:


That season Ronaldo provided 3 league assists for Benzema out of the 24 league goals.
How old was Benzema? 27-28yrs in 2015/16 which is close to the peak years of a footballer
Diego Costa is around the same age as Benzema compare his output in 2015/16 to last season or this season and know the effect of age on most attackers
Rooney too at 27-28 he was scoring 27 league goals by 31 6goals

If Dybala can get over 2000mins by the end of this season shows he was given relatively many minutes on the field almost similar to last yr

We dont need to compare Dybala to Benzema, the best is compare Benzema with Ronaldo to Benzema without Ronaldo. Then Dybala with Ronaldo and Dybala without Ronaldo


Its basic logic that when a heavy goal scorer gets into a team the output of others will reduce


If Ronaldo at his peak plays with Aguero, Kane Lewandski definitely their output will reduce

You cannot put 4 30goals a season striker into a team and expect them to score 120 goals, Someone has to suffer and it wont be the top dog like Ronaldo
the output may reduce, but that is not the excuse for a useless benzema. Suarez went to meet messi in barca, nothing happened to his output.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:40pm On Apr 16, 2019
Greatihex:
the output may reduce, but that is not the excuse for a useless benzema. Suarez went to meet messi in barca, nothing happened to his output.

Can we also say Dybala became useless the moment Ronaldo came? Benzema and Dybala 2 attackers who became useless in the presence of Ronaldo
Kane has been scoring about 25goals per season bring Ronaldo and first his 5 penalties per season disappears, Him being the target of all balls in the box and attack stops, Eriksen willstart directing his passes to Ronaldo, even training will be tailored to get Ronaldo the best passes

Messi drops into midfield and allows his strikers, Ronaldo most time will be in the box
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NinjaMetahuman: 3:58pm On Apr 16, 2019
raumdeuter:




Who posted this
hahaha you are one corny mf. even the post you quoted didnt show where i said we will use last season and it was completely independent. not in a response to your question.



after that question, who posted this?

EvilMetahuman:
does benzema score 5 goals every season while playing with ronaldo? Isnt last year his worst season?

I will also use dybalas worst season to judge him.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:04pm On Apr 16, 2019
EvilMetahuman:
does benzema score 5 goals every season while playing with ronaldo? Isnt last year his worst season?

I will also use dybalas worst season to judge him.

Yes even if you use Dybalas worst season to judge him, this is looking like it might be worse than anything he ever did in Serie A
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:05pm On Apr 16, 2019
NinjaMetahuman:
hahaha you are one corny mf. even the post you quoted didnt show where i said we will use last season and it was completely independent. not in a response to your question.
after that question, who posted this?


So which Dybala season do you want us to compare to the current one?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NinjaMetahuman: 4:21pm On Apr 16, 2019
raumdeuter:


That season Ronaldo provided 3 league assists for Benzema out of the 24 league goals.
How old was Benzema? 27-28yrs in 2015/16 which is close to the peak years of a footballer
Diego Costa is around the same age as Benzema compare his output in 2015/16 to last season or this season and know the effect of age on most attackers
Rooney too at 27-28 he was scoring 27 league goals by 31 6goals

If Dybala can get over 2000mins by the end of this season shows he was given relatively many minutes on the field almost similar to last yr

We dont need to compare Dybala to Benzema, the best is compare Benzema with Ronaldo to Benzema without Ronaldo. Then Dybala with Ronaldo and Dybala without Ronaldo

Its basic logic that when a heavy goal scorer gets into a team the output of others will reduce

If Ronaldo at his peak plays with Aguero, Kane Lewandski definitely their output will reduce

You cannot put 4 30goals a season striker into a team and expect them to score 120 goals, Someone has to suffer and it wont be the top dog like Ronaldo
if you remove 3 ronaldo's assists from the imaginary 27-30 goals he could have scored, how many left?



dybala, didnt play as regularly as he did last season. heck he didnt even play as center forward in most of the games he managed to play this season like he did last season. again, how do you expect him to give same output?

how come this logic only affects benzema? why doesnt it affect suarez?
its funny how you cook something in your head and claim its logic. is that how logic works now? grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NinjaMetahuman: 4:26pm On Apr 16, 2019
raumdeuter:


So which Dybala season do you want us to compare to the current one?
so do you first admit you are a liar liar pant's on fire? cheesy


this is practically his worst season yet and it has nothing to do with playing alongside ronaldo.. but not playing at all and also not playing in his regular position most of the time.

until we have a season where he plays alongside ronaldo game in game out like benzema at madrid. your hypothesis remains null and void.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 4:34pm On Apr 16, 2019
raumdeuter:


Can we also say Dybala became useless the moment Ronaldo came? Benzema and Dybala 2 attackers who became useless in the presence of Ronaldo
Kane has been scoring about 25goals per season bring Ronaldo and first his 5 penalties per season disappears, Him being the target of all balls in the box and attack stops, Eriksen willstart directing his passes to Ronaldo, even training will be tailored to get Ronaldo the best passes

Messi drops into midfield and allows his strikers, Ronaldo most time will be in the box
i am not disputing your claim of Ronaldo reducing other attackers goals because i know how Ronaldo plays and what has kept him relevant over the years. But your post that i put in bold did not have Ronaldo in it.




Again, Ronaldo is the excuse for benzema's uselessness and missing of sitters. Even if Kane start playing with Ronaldo tomorrow, he will never produce those benzema's embarassing numbers. Bale that was not regular then will still be outscoring benzema.



Be sincere, Can you confidently bet that if Suarez plays with Ronaldo that he will be posting those embarassing numbers as a striker?



Lastly, your Dybala theory does not hold, because Dybala has hardly played with Ronaldo.



I don't have strength for argument now. Just stop here
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Corrosiveman(m): 4:42pm On Apr 16, 2019
Lol.....Its not that Benzema or Dybala is Bad but the truth is Ronaldo is a proven Goal scorer anyone who plays with him might not have much goals
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 4:54pm On Apr 16, 2019
Leyqute:


Did you play on that stony rubbish field at Awgu camp?

cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

Did you serve in Enugu? My platoon reached the semis, that field na die, stony big field. Scored 5 goals in one of the matches.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chic2pimp(m): 5:02pm On Apr 16, 2019
airmark:

Scored 5 goals in one of the matches.


Are you trying to challenge Dayo on the sly? Anyways I trust Him not let me down where goals are concerned. Oya Dayo come and tell us the maximum amount of goals you've ever scored in a footy match.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 5:10pm On Apr 16, 2019
grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 5:11pm On Apr 16, 2019
chic2pimp:


Are you trying to challenge Dayo on the sly? Anyways I trust Him not let me down where goals are concerned. Oya Dayo come and tell us the maximum amount of goals you've ever scored in a footy match.

cheesy

DMs are not expected to score and also, Raumdeuter na DM for Invisible stars fc of Ogbomosho. Nobody saw him.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chic2pimp(m): 5:22pm On Apr 16, 2019
airmark:


cheesy

DMs are not expected to score and also, Raumdeuter na DM for Invisible stars fc of Ogbomosho. Nobody saw him.

In other words, Dayo has never scored a goal in all His years playing Footy? Not Even in the Milivojević way?

Nah I'm not accepting this explanation. I'm waiting to hear it from the Horse's mouth first.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 5:37pm On Apr 16, 2019
grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 5:37pm On Apr 16, 2019
chic2pimp:


In other words, Dayo has never scored a goal in all His years playing Footy? Not Even in the Milivojević way?

Nah I'm not accepting this explanation. I'm waiting to hear it from the Horse's mouth first.

grin

A DM in monkey post football, only protects his goal mouth.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:50pm On Apr 16, 2019
NinjaMetahuman:
remove that 3 assists lets how many left?
if you remove that from the imaginary 27-30 goals he could have scored, how many left?



dybala, didnt play as regularly as he did last season. heck he didnt even play as center forward in most of the games he managed to play this season like he did last season. again, how do you expect him to give same output?

how come this logic only affects benzema? why doesnt it affect suarez?
its funny how you cook something in your head and claim its logic. is that how logic works now? grin

So If Ronaldo did not play will Madrid play with 10 players? Chances are that the player who replaces Ronaldo will have more than 3 assists in an entire seasson

Last season Dybala wasnt playing as a Center forward either, Higuain was

Suarez does not play with Ronaldo, he plays with Messi who is not Ronaldo Let Suarez play with peak Ronaldo and lets see his output, he wil become the winger for Ronaldo
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:52pm On Apr 16, 2019
NinjaMetahuman:
so do you first admit you are a liar liar pant's on fire? cheesy
this is practically his worst season yet and it has nothing to do with playing alongside ronaldo.. but not playing at all and also not playing in his regular position most of the time.
until we have a season where he plays alongside ronaldo game in game out like benzema at madrid. your hypothesis remains null and void.

Where is the lie? How come out of Dybalas seasons in Italy, the first one he is playing with Ronaldo is his worst.

Dybala is not playing at all but where did the 1800minutes come from? 1800mins is literally 20 full games So Dybala has played over 20 full games
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:56pm On Apr 16, 2019
Greatihex:
i am not disputing your claim of Ronaldo reducing other attackers goals because i know how Ronaldo plays and what has kept him relevant over the years. But your post that i put in bold did not have Ronaldo in it.




Again, Ronaldo is the excuse for benzema's uselessness and missing of sitters. Even if Kane start playing with Ronaldo tomorrow, he will never produce those benzema's embarassing numbers. Bale that was not regular then will still be outscoring benzema.

Be sincere, Can you confidently bet that if Suarez plays with Ronaldo that he will be posting those embarassing numbers as a striker?
Lastly, your Dybala theory does not hold, because Dybala has hardly played with Ronaldo.
I don't have strength for argument now. Just stop here

Dybala played 1800mins this season who was he playing with on the field?

Benzema, Tevez Dybala are examples of attackers who have played with Ronaldo go and check their worst seasons in goals output

A striker missing sitters is not unique to anyone, which striker doesnt miss sitters? You mean Benzema is not missing sitters this season?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:57pm On Apr 16, 2019
Corrosiveman:
Lol.....Its not that Benzema or Dybala is Bad but the truth is Ronaldo is a proven Goal scorer anyone who plays with him might not have much goals

Its basic logic any attacker who plays with Ronaldo will have a drop in numbers because Ronaldo will be the focal point of the attack

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:58pm On Apr 16, 2019
airmark:

cheesy
DMs are not expected to score and also, Rumdeuter na DM for Invisible stars fc of Ogbomosho. Nobody saw him.

Which kain amateur football be that wey cripple like you dey score 5 goals?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 6:23pm On Apr 16, 2019
raumdeuter:


Which kain amateur football be that wey cripple like you dey score 5 goals?

Were you even chosen in your platoon to play, let alone getting posted to the state capital because of your performance in camp to represent the state in Abuja? Mumu.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 6:30pm On Apr 16, 2019
raumdeuter:


Its basic logic any attacker who plays with Ronaldo will have a drop in numbers because Ronaldo will be the focal point of the attack

Maybe Ronaldo died in 2015/16 when Bale scored 19 league goals in 23 matches.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 6:52pm On Apr 16, 2019
raumdeuter:


So If Ronaldo did not play will Madrid play with 10 players? Chances are that the player who replaces Ronaldo will have more than 3 assists in an entire seasson

Last season Dybala wasnt playing as a Center forward either, Higuain was

Suarez does not play with Ronaldo, he plays with Messi who is not Ronaldo Let Suarez play with peak Ronaldo and lets see his output, he wil become the winger for Ronaldo
Suarez played from the flank in liverpool for most of the season when he scored 31 goals in England. Even if Suarez play from wing, he will never post those benzema number. Unfit bale never posted it, talk more of Suarez.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by PDPGuy: 7:26pm On Apr 16, 2019
Rooting for United today!!

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:35pm On Apr 16, 2019
airmark:


Were you even chosen in your platoon to play, let alone getting posted to the state capital because of your performance in camp to represent the state in Abuja? Mumu.

Some of us were already serious with our lives and not playing football about in our mid 20s. When there was GRE to prepare for and Aptitude tests to write
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:37pm On Apr 16, 2019
airmark:


Maybe Ronaldo died in 2015/16 when Bale scored 19 league goals in 23 matches.

Before Bale met Ronaldo, he scored 21 goals, tell me the last time Bale scored over 20 goals since he met Ronaldo

Bales worst season in the league since he was converted from LB till date was when he was with Ronaldo
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pamcode(m): 7:46pm On Apr 16, 2019
young against Messi? lol we dey here dey look.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:47pm On Apr 16, 2019
Greatihex:
Suarez played from the flank in liverpool for most of the season when he scored 31 goals in England. Even if Suarez play from wing, he will never post those benzema number. Unfit bale never posted it, talk more of Suarez.

This is Suarez in the season he scored 31 goals, where did he play on the flanks for most of the season? Shekpe fans sha. Why must you people lie all the time

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 7:48pm On Apr 16, 2019
Top 5 European Leagues GpG.

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