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You had to quote the whole post? Haba mana. That's evil.

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whytediamond:



You had to quote the whole post? Haba mana. That's evil.

Sry man, It has been crected

Seun I go take only 50k monthly to make sure say no fixed game post stays more than 5 minutes on NL. Try me

ADMAF:

Sry man, It has been crected

God bless you.

whytediamond:
... "If this should prove to be the case and civilized world be forced to recognize in a black people the fount of its original enlightenment, it may happen that we shall have to revise entirely our view of the black races, and regard those who now exist as the decadent representatives of an almost forgotten era, rather than as the embryonic possibility of an era yet to come."

Words of Lady Lugard.

The whites will never let the world know the true history of the black race. So much talent and creativity. My question till this day is, where did it all start to go wrong?

Is either the whole nubians died after building the pyramid,today we can not build common pedestrian bridge with out foreign help,

are my the only one who dosnt knw what is pyramids?

Amazing.

Am really surprised how Africa later became so backward.

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African arabs. Just, like Ethiopian jews

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Also, the to richest man that ever recorded was from Mali empire. He once crashed the economy of Egypt

This op has problems with reconciling with the truth, the documentary made mention of Arabs not Muslims. Africans have mostly been subjects of labour in the history of civilization this also sharpened their skills and art.

@ Rossikk, you also just displayed your crass ignorance....
What has Muhammad gotten to do with Arabic civilization?
Arabs are a tribe/race, Muhammad is just a religious leader...

Also, everyone knows the root of Mathematics/Algebra started with numbering which was invented by the Arabs.
Hence, it's often said Arabs invented Maths

Seetto:
OP you are greatly mistaken, prophet Muhammad is an Arab and not the founder of Arab language.

Indeed. Arabs existed before Prophet Muhammad. I think the Arabs invented Algebra as a branch of mathematical sciences not mathematics as a whole cos the Greeks and Egyptians used geometry long before d Arabs came onboard.

Rossikk:
Sudan was a major centre of African civilization in antiquity.

When Europe was a wasteland of barbarism and cave-dwelling illiteracy, Sudan (ancient Nubia) was giving the world mighty temples and pyramids built according to the highest mathematical and geometric principles and standards.

Incidentally I was watching an American TV news show the other day in which the host, Joe Scarborough, was telling his viewers that ''Arabs invented mathematics''.

A claim profoundly false and misleading, since the pyramids of Sudan - all 223 of them, were built thousands of years before the birth of Muhammed, the founder of Islam.

(Egypt's pyramids and temples of course are another example of ancient black African mathematics that preceded by thousands of years all European and Arab civilizations, but this thread is about Sudan)

Excerpt:

''Nubian pyramids are pyramids that were built by the rulers of the ancient Kushite kingdoms. The area of the Nile valley known as Nubia, which lies [in] present day Sudan, was home to three Kushite kingdoms during antiquity. The first had its capital at Kerma (2500–1500 BC). The second was centered on Napata (1000–300 BC). Finally, the last kingdom was centered on Meroë (300 BC–AD 300). They are built of granite and sandstone. The pyramids were partially demolished by [surprise surprise] Italian combat medic turned explorer and treasure hunter Giuseppe Ferlini in the 1830s''

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nubian_pyramids













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Queen Tiye, Nubian mother of Egyptian Pharaoh Akhenaton. 1398 BC – 1338 BC







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.................Taharqa, Pharaoh of Nubia and Egypt - 690–664 BC



THE WORDS OF LADY LUGARD, Historian wife of Lord Lugard, Ist British Governor-General of Nigeria:


"When the history of Negroland comes to be written in detail, it may be found that the kingdoms lying towards the eastern end of Sudan (classical home of Ancient Africans) were the home of races who inspired, rather than of races who received, the tradition of civilization associated for us with the name of ancient Egypt.

For they cover on either side of the Upper Nile between the latitudes of ten degrees and seventeen degrees, territories in which are found monuments more ancient than the oldest Egyptian monuments. If this should prove to be the case and civilized world be forced to recognize in a black people the fount of its original enlightenment, it may happen that we shall have to revise entirely our view of the black races, and regard those who now exist as the decadent representatives of an almost forgotten era, rather than as the embryonic possibility of an era yet to come."

"The fame of the ancient Ethiopians (ancient Kushites) was widespread in ancient history. Herodotus described them as the most beautiful and long-lived of the human races, and before Herodotus, Homer, in even more flattering language, described them as the most just of men, the favourites of the gods. The annals of all the great early nations of Asia Minor are full of them. The Mosaic records allude to them frequently; but while they are described as the most powerful, the most just, and the most beautiful of the human race, they are constantly spoken of as Black, and there seems to be no other conclusion to be drawn than at that remote period of history, the leading race of the Western World was a Black race."

Lady Lugard/Flora Shaw Lugard, Asa G. Hilliard, III, A Tropical Dependency: An Outline of the Ancient History of the Western Sudan With an Account of the Modern Settlement of Northern Nigeria, (1900)

http://wysinger.homestead.com/blackegypt101.html

Go worship them then! What are you waiting for?

Arabs didnt invent maths, they invented modern maths, and that was what the scholar was alluding to.

Maths can be as basic as counting the number of fingers or children one has to calculus calculations and beyond. Are you saying Arabs claim to have invented children counting?

ntyce:
@ Rossikk, you also just displayed your crass ignorance....
What has Muhammad gotten to do with Arabic civilization?
Arabs are a tribe/race, Muhammad is just a religious leader...

Also, everyone knows the root of Mathematics/Algebra started with numbering which was invented by the Arabs.
Hence, it's often said Arabs invented Maths

The Arabs were not the only ones to use numerals. The Romans used Latin numerals too just like the ancient greeks and Sumerians(who are credited to have invented writing). Whilst the Arabic numerals became more popular, it does not mean that no numbering system predates it. Yes an Arab invented Algebra, but Algebra is just one tiny aspect of mathematics. The Greeks invented geometry, and Pythagoras and co existed before Algebra came to be known.

I'm aware of this. I always shake my head when I see some black people talk down on blacks and say Africa has always been cursed. Some even go to the extent and say we were the caused race from Genesis(the curse if Ham story). Please know your history. There are books that told story of Pre-slavery Africa.
Our ancestors smelted iron, yarned cotton, traded with other states, developed art and craft of world superiority, kings comanded large militaries in Africa well before Europeans. These are things that were done in other civilizations as well.

Attached is a picture of European style castles in Ethopia. Their kings slept in castle just like the European ones did.

More than Egypt?

Rossikk:
Sudan was a major centre of African civilization in antiquity.

When Europe was a wasteland of barbarism and cave-dwelling illiteracy, Sudan (ancient Nubia) was giving the world mighty temples and pyramids built according to the highest mathematical and geometric principles and standards.

Incidentally I was watching an American TV news show the other day in which the host, Joe Scarborough, was telling his viewers that ''Arabs invented mathematics''.

A claim profoundly false and misleading, since the pyramids of Sudan - all 223 of them, were built thousands of years before the birth of Muhammed, the founder of Islam.

(Egypt's pyramids and temples of course are another example of ancient black African mathematics that preceded by thousands of years all European and Arab civilizations, but this thread is about Sudan)

Excerpt:

''Nubian pyramids are pyramids that were built by the rulers of the ancient Kushite kingdoms. The area of the Nile valley known as Nubia, which lies [in] present day Sudan, was home to three Kushite kingdoms during antiquity. The first had its capital at Kerma (2500–1500 BC). The second was centered on Napata (1000–300 BC). Finally, the last kingdom was centered on Meroë (300 BC–AD 300). They are built of granite and sandstone. The pyramids were partially demolished by [surprise surprise] Italian combat medic turned explorer and treasure hunter Giuseppe Ferlini in the 1830s''

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nubian_pyramids













[img]http://3.bp..com/-FTC4youFIsw/VdPMpPQl7iI/AAAAAAAAH9U/lWpx1yg8D38/s1600/nubia%2Bpyramids.jpg[/img]





[img]https://thevelvetrocket.files./2014/09/nuri-pyramids.jpg[/img]

















Temple Art and Architecture















....................






Queen Tiye, Nubian mother of Egyptian Pharaoh Akhenaton. 1398 BC – 1338 BC







Temple of Amun








.................
.................Taharqa, Pharaoh of Nubia and Egypt - 690–664 BC



THE WORDS OF LADY LUGARD, Historian wife of Lord Lugard, Ist British Governor-General of Nigeria:


"When the history of Negroland comes to be written in detail, it may be found that the kingdoms lying towards the eastern end of Sudan (classical home of Ancient Africans) were the home of races who inspired, rather than of races who received, the tradition of civilization associated for us with the name of ancient Egypt.

For they cover on either side of the Upper Nile between the latitudes of ten degrees and seventeen degrees, territories in which are found monuments more ancient than the oldest Egyptian monuments. If this should prove to be the case and civilized world be forced to recognize in a black people the fount of its original enlightenment, it may happen that we shall have to revise entirely our view of the black races, and regard those who now exist as the decadent representatives of an almost forgotten era, rather than as the embryonic possibility of an era yet to come."

"The fame of the ancient Ethiopians (ancient Kushites) was widespread in ancient history. Herodotus described them as the most beautiful and long-lived of the human races, and before Herodotus, Homer, in even more flattering language, described them as the most just of men, the favourites of the gods. The annals of all the great early nations of Asia Minor are full of them. The Mosaic records allude to them frequently; but while they are described as the most powerful, the most just, and the most beautiful of the human race, they are constantly spoken of as Black, and there seems to be no other conclusion to be drawn than at that remote period of history, the leading race of the Western World was a Black race."

Lady Lugard/Flora Shaw Lugard, Asa G. Hilliard, III, A Tropical Dependency: An Outline of the Ancient History of the Western Sudan With an Account of the Modern Settlement of Northern Nigeria, (1900)

http://wysinger.homestead.com/blackegypt101.html

on the discovery of mathematics, who now discovered it,since it ain't (by you)discovered by the Arabs.

And I think prophet Mohammed is not the founder of the Arabs.

Meanwhile in movie Pharaoh was a white guy.....

whytediamond:
... "If this should prove to be the case and civilized world be forced to recognize in a black people the fount of its original enlightenment, it may happen that we shall have to revise entirely our view of the black races, and regard those who now exist as the decadent representatives of an almost forgotten era, rather than as the embryonic possibility of an era yet to come."

Words of Lady Lugard.

The whites will never let the world know the true history of the black race. So much talent and creativity. My question till this day is, where did it all start to go wrong?

Education

In ancient times the wise ruled over the unwise and the children of the wise were trained formally to take up leadership from their parents. Wise parents usually picked the wisest children to take up leadership.

In the present day, western nations have prioritized academic excellence as a means of advancement. In America, schools are divided into Ivey league and all others. In england, most leaders are also picked from prestigious schools and have great academic achievements.

In Africa, the black man still struggles to understand the benefits of education. The average person assumes education is a means to escape poverty so this has led to a situation where every person requires some form of certificate to survive the hardships of life. (This is not the case in the developed world). To enable people to get a certificate, standards were brought down so that the dull can also get a certificate.


With so many certificate holders, the only means of advancement is man know man, thus leading to horrendous leadership in all spheres of national development. A cycle of dull leaders has created a cycle of dull followers so it is now difficult to distinguish between wisdom and foolishness.

We must get our basic education system to work. Every citizen whether rich or poor must be given the same quality of basic education to create a level playing ground and ensure our hidden gems are discovered. Merit must be the order of the day.

We must raise standards for admission into universities. We must stand of merit in all aspects of advancement in national life.

We must raise the standard of living amongst artisans and non certificate holders as every citizen deserves a high quality of life whether educated or not. This can simply be achieved by providing quality education and healthcare to all Nigerians. Money from oil and taxes should be focused on these. It is certainly not rocket science.

If the artisan's most costly needs are met by the government, more people will be willing to become artisans. A high supply of artisans would lead to competition which will invariably lead to more specialization. Specialization would lead to mergers and acquisitions, which will enable craftsmen to establish new markets creating more jobs and grow the economy. This is how multinational corporations start out.

Finally, focus on education should not just cover mathematics, English and other subjects, but also the Arts like music, sports, acting, and other creative arts.
Leaders should be chosen from the elites from various fields.

Hope I have answered your question.

PS
Notice I did not mention electricity, roads and other infrastructure. Like seeking the face of God, if a nation seeks education and merit, every other aspect of national development shall be added unto the nation.

Abeg the pharoah in the bible no get name

verifiablefacts:

on the discovery of mathematics, who now discovered it,since it ain't (by you)discovered by the Arabs.

And I think prophet Mohammed is not the founder of the Arabs.

How can prophet Muhammad be d founder of Arabs na wa for you oo

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Liar, the Sudanese were never Arabs, they are pure blacks, like Egyptian and Ethiopians. It was Arab religious incursions (Islam) that turned them to who they are today. You can as well call Hausa and Fulani Arabs na.
You have been brain washed with religion. Your believes in God does not mean you should lose your identity.

What a shame.

All dem own na baby pyramids.

Only Pharaohs had the resources &
capacity to build the giant ones seen
in Egypt.

Just like today, we in Africa can hardly
build structures of beyond 20 to 30 storeys.

Go to developed countries, you will
routinely see 50 to 100 storey & beyond.