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Re: Electronic Transmission Of Election Result Illegal – Lawyers by Oguieke(m): 11:35am On Apr 27, 2019
Here is a country where everyone is working for his pocket and not for the nation.
Re: Electronic Transmission Of Election Result Illegal – Lawyers by tuniski: 11:37am On Apr 27, 2019
garfield1:

Electronic transmission cannot override manual transmission
They have to be consistent! You seem don't understand where the case is leading. E collation is essentially for control and integrity of the manual collation. There are historical antecedents.

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Re: Electronic Transmission Of Election Result Illegal – Lawyers by Kenturkey048(m): 11:39am On Apr 27, 2019
garfield1:

You still havent answered.which is the primary result
both.
Re: Electronic Transmission Of Election Result Illegal – Lawyers by tuniski: 11:41am On Apr 27, 2019
engineerboat:



Answer this simple question

1. did INEC give unique password for result transmission

2. Why did INEC allow his technical staff to spend all night uploading results for APC to now start speaking for INEC as fake server
The answer is simple YES the did.

The somersault by INEC is a tale of someone caught red handed in the act of mandate theft!

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Re: Electronic Transmission Of Election Result Illegal – Lawyers by pek(m): 11:45am On Apr 27, 2019
mycar:

If inec confirms it then they would have to explain why the manual result was different. Politics aside, when you wrote jamb, if you had seen your scores as 300 on the jamb website and got a result slip with total scores of 180, won't you query jamb if jamb still sends that same 180 scores result sheet to your school?
You don't write JAMB. You sit for UMTE. JAMB is the body not the exam.

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Re: Electronic Transmission Of Election Result Illegal – Lawyers by Realdeals(m): 11:45am On Apr 27, 2019
garfield1:

Use of card reader is not really illegal.intact use of any electronic means is not illegal,it was just to aid or make the manual process smooth.but it cannot be the basis for nullifying any elections
Wait but why were people denied manual accreditation because the SCR which is electronic didn't recognized their PVC, I have 5 voters that were affected.
Even during result announcement, Yakubu justified votes cancellation due to manual accreditation to the extent that PDP agent at the announcement Osita Chidoka protested the cancellation of votes from a Ward in Nasarawa based on the clause.

What I know is that the tribunal will not give Atiku the mandate, they will instead cancel the election and call for a fresh one, INEC cannot defend the case.

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Re: Electronic Transmission Of Election Result Illegal – Lawyers by wifeesnatcher(m): 11:50am On Apr 27, 2019
The inconsistency in Nigeria constitution is indeed a threat to our judiciary review

Judiciary that are known for interpretation of law are not helping matter in this scenario



Can we citizen demand for consistency in this constitution for once because it seems these politicians are just redressing and readjusting this constitution to suit their selfish interest

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Re: Electronic Transmission Of Election Result Illegal – Lawyers by Realdeals(m): 11:50am On Apr 27, 2019
APC is also preparing for any eventualities, that's one of the reasons they are super-interested on who head the NASS.

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Re: Electronic Transmission Of Election Result Illegal – Lawyers by Onliie(m): 11:52am On Apr 27, 2019
Yee, Upper cut for atiku.
Re: Electronic Transmission Of Election Result Illegal – Lawyers by engineerboat(m): 11:53am On Apr 27, 2019
Realdeals:

Wait but why were people denied manual accreditation because the SCR which is electronic didn't recognized their PVC, I have 5 voters that were affected.
Even during result announcement, Yakubu justified votes cancellation due to manual accreditation to the extent that PDP agent at the announcement Osita Chidoka protested the cancellation of votes from a Ward in Nasarawa based on the clause.

What I know is that the tribunal will not give Atiku the mandate, they will instead cancel the election and call for a fresh one, INEC cannot defend the case.

I can give you evidences of Many polling units that their CR did not work.

Their results were rejected by INEC

Entire PU's

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Re: Electronic Transmission Of Election Result Illegal – Lawyers by garfield1: 11:54am On Apr 27, 2019
PrecisionFx:



Be FooOOOooling ya sef
Be seeensiing yourself
Re: Electronic Transmission Of Election Result Illegal – Lawyers by garfield1: 11:55am On Apr 27, 2019
tuniski:

They have to be consistent! You seem don't understand where the case is leading. E collation is essentially for control and integrity of the manual collation. There are historical antecedents.
There are no judicial precedents in our law.we are talking about transmission not collation
Re: Electronic Transmission Of Election Result Illegal – Lawyers by garfield1: 11:57am On Apr 27, 2019
engineerboat:


I can give you evidences of Many polling units that their CR did not work.

Their results were rejected by INEC

Entire PU's
The courts have the right to uphold those results.the units of ortom,oshiomhole and usani did not use any card reader
Re: Electronic Transmission Of Election Result Illegal – Lawyers by garfield1: 11:59am On Apr 27, 2019
Realdeals:

Wait but why were people denied manual accreditation because the SCR which is electronic didn't recognized their PVC, I have 5 voters that were affected.
Even during result announcement, Yakubu justified votes cancellation due to manual accreditation to the extent that PDP agent at the announcement Osita Chidoka protested the cancellation of votes from a Ward in Nasarawa based on the clause.

What I know is that the tribunal will not give Atiku the mandate, they will instead cancel the election and call for a fresh one, INEC cannot defend the case.
A fresh polls will still see atiku losing.the highest he can get is a partial rerun which wont favor him
Re: Electronic Transmission Of Election Result Illegal – Lawyers by tuniski: 12:06pm On Apr 27, 2019
garfield1:

There are no judicial precedents in our law.we are talking about transmission not collation
Did I mention judicial anything here?
Re: Electronic Transmission Of Election Result Illegal – Lawyers by garfield1: 12:11pm On Apr 27, 2019
Kenturkey048:
both.
Which court has ever accepted server results ?
Re: Electronic Transmission Of Election Result Illegal – Lawyers by garfield1: 12:12pm On Apr 27, 2019
tuniski:

Did I mention judicial anything here?
Then you have no point
Re: Electronic Transmission Of Election Result Illegal – Lawyers by callthefred: 12:25pm On Apr 27, 2019
From my understanding the issue is of proof and not electoral law or otherwise. Aregbesola got his mandate in 2010 same as Mimiko in 2016 solely based on forensics. There was no room for forensics in the electoral law either but it proved their cases and exposed multiple voting, also hidden cameras exposed violence during the 2015 general elections.
Re: Electronic Transmission Of Election Result Illegal – Lawyers by Jesusloveyou: 12:39pm On Apr 27, 2019
Esseite:
Copied:
shift that copied to one Corner.

from this write up, he said inec probably heard that some people had planned to compromised and abandon it without announcement.

again, reason this facts , he said the combine result for atiku and buhari is more than the total accredited voters, no other candidate got a vote, no cancelation and voided vote,
that alone has knock out atiku server claims.

this is what probably happen,
transmitted to server of the number of accredited voters, does not translate to the number of vote cast.
Re: Electronic Transmission Of Election Result Illegal – Lawyers by tuniski: 12:41pm On Apr 27, 2019
garfield1:

Then you have no point
Don't kill Yourself on a matter you have zero input or role.

Well you aint the tribunal. I am not suppose to have any point to you.
Re: Electronic Transmission Of Election Result Illegal – Lawyers by Nobody: 12:45pm On Apr 27, 2019
ChristianNorth:

The herculean task was getting Supreme Court ruled that the use of card reader is illegal when the electoral act already gave INEC the power to use them.

Getting an over-ride is simple.



Stop mixing things up & confusing yourselves .... the only reform we had was the for voting process ... electronic accreditation which legalises card reader.
Coalition process as stipulated by nigeria constitution till today remains manual coalition process ...
the 2018 electoral law amended would av enacted E coalition but was not signed which means Manual coalition of election result remains the only legal means of computing & presenting results before any court of jurisdiction ... inec server will be thrown out just like juju in any court
Re: Electronic Transmission Of Election Result Illegal – Lawyers by Ratello: 12:47pm On Apr 27, 2019
Bunch of APC miserable lawyers and charge and bail comedians. When the burden of proofs in a law court rest on a defendant's shoulder in a sensitive case as this then whatever that can be submitted at the court of law to substantiate the body of evidences validity will be admissible as exhibits in court. In this case, the Atiku legal team had proven beyond reasonable doubt that INEC had grossly compromised the law guiding the principle of electoral process in the land and they have no case to prove nor evidences to support their wild claims. Atiku is almost here.

Thanks to ChristianNorth engineerboat tuniski Esseite and other brilliant contributors here so far

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Re: Electronic Transmission Of Election Result Illegal – Lawyers by Ratello: 12:51pm On Apr 27, 2019
ericsmith:




Stop mixing things up & confusing yourselves .... the only reform we had was the for voting process ... electronic accreditation which legalises card reader.
Coalition process as stipulated by nigeria constitution till today remains manual coalition process ...
the 2018 electoral law amended would av enacted E coalition but was not signed which means Manual coalition of election result remains the only legal means of computing & presenting results before any court of jurisdiction ... inec server will be thrown out just like juju in any court
....and you wondered why those whose finger prints cannot be read by the smart card reader (instrument of e-collation) were asked to fill voters registration form in order to be eligible to vote manually? This same smart card reader must read your voters card for you to be abe to vote or else you are not eligible to vote manually. cheesy grin can you read me now?
Re: Electronic Transmission Of Election Result Illegal – Lawyers by chukel(m): 12:52pm On Apr 27, 2019
How can people be dumb and continue to be dumb. I have read all the articles and inec guidelines posted by these dumb people and i cant see anywhere even in inec guideline where they said results of each of the parties that participated in the presidential election will be transmitted electronically using the smart card reader. Please if I'm blind, someone should show me. What the guideline talks about transmission is the total number of voters, total accredited voters and the total number cast/valid votes in a polling unit. How do you even start to enter votes for each of the political parties in the smart card reader. How dumb can people be. If that was the case, inec wouldn't have been waiting for state returning officers to arrive Abuja with result sheets to announce each state result. Why will people be adamantly and dogmatically dumb.
Re: Electronic Transmission Of Election Result Illegal – Lawyers by tuniski: 12:54pm On Apr 27, 2019
garfield1:

A fresh polls will still see atiku losing.the highest he can get is a partial rerun which wont favor him
I hail justice Senatordave1
Re: Electronic Transmission Of Election Result Illegal – Lawyers by chukel(m): 12:55pm On Apr 27, 2019
Ratello:

....and you wondered why those whose finger prints cannot be read by the smart card reader (instrument of e-collation) were asked to fill voters registration form in order to be eligible to vote manually? This same smart card reader must read your voters card for you to be abe to vote or else you are not eligible to vote manually. cheesy grin can you read me now?
u don't even understand the basis of this whole process. U just don't get it. What you typed makes no sense
Re: Electronic Transmission Of Election Result Illegal – Lawyers by chukel(m): 12:57pm On Apr 27, 2019
Jesusloveyou:
shift that copied to one Corner.

from this write up, he said inec probably heard that some people had planned to compromised and abandon it without announcement.

again, reason this facts , he said the combine result for atiku and buhari is more than the total accredited voters, no other candidate got a vote, no cancelation and voided vote,
that alone has knock out atiku server claims.

this is what probably happen,
transmitted to server of the number of accredited voters, does not translate to the number of vote cast
.
EXACTLY

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Re: Electronic Transmission Of Election Result Illegal – Lawyers by koboko69: 12:57pm On Apr 27, 2019
mycar:

If inec confirms it then they would have to explain why the manual result was different. Politics aside, when you wrote jamb, if you had seen your scores as 300 on the jamb website and got a result slip with total scores of 180, won't you query jamb if jamb still sends that same 180 scores result sheet to your school?

Dumb assertion with no correlation.
Re: Electronic Transmission Of Election Result Illegal – Lawyers by koboko69: 12:58pm On Apr 27, 2019
cheesy
ORIENTATION101:
lols election that was done manually and announced. atiku and inec server re on their own.the law says manually whoever claim he won on server should collect certificate of return from miscrosoft
cheesy grin cheesy


Mad man cheesy
Re: Electronic Transmission Of Election Result Illegal – Lawyers by Nobody: 1:04pm On Apr 27, 2019
Ratello:

....and you wondered why those whose finger prints cannot be read by the smart card reader (instrument of e-collation) were asked to fill voters registration form in order to be eligible to vote manually? This same smart card reader must read your voters card for you to be abe to vote or else you are not eligible to vote manually. cheesy grin can you read me now?



Really do not understand you but i believe we can learn from ourselves stating facts n not just opinion guided by interest.
When you a redress in court it is paramount the laws be interpreted accordingly ....
under electoral process we have i. voting process ii. coalition process ... if you cannt understand both process are govern by different laws you cannt promote to the next level ...grin
Re: Electronic Transmission Of Election Result Illegal – Lawyers by Jesusloveyou: 1:09pm On Apr 27, 2019
tuniski:

The answer is simple YES the did.

The somersault by INEC is a tale of someone caught red handed in the act of mandate theft!
Jesusloveyou:
shift that copied to one Corner.

from this write up, he said inec probably heard that some people had planned to compromised and abandon it without announcement.

again, reason this facts , he said the combine result for atiku and buhari is more than the total accredited voters, no other candidate got a vote, no cancelation and voided vote,
that alone has knock out atiku server claims.

this is what probably happen,
transmitted to server of the number of accredited voters, does not translate to the number of vote cast.
tuniski:

The answer is simple YES the did.

The somersault by INEC is a tale of someone caught red handed in the act of mandate theft!
Re: Electronic Transmission Of Election Result Illegal – Lawyers by chukel(m): 1:11pm On Apr 27, 2019
Realdeals:

Wait but why were people denied manual accreditation because the SCR which is electronic didn't recognized their PVC, I have 5 voters that were affected.
Even during result announcement, Yakubu justified votes cancellation due to manual accreditation to the extent that PDP agent at the announcement Osita Chidoka protested the cancellation of votes from a Ward in Nasarawa based on the clause.

What I know is that the tribunal will not give Atiku the mandate, they will instead cancel the election and call for a fresh one, INEC cannot defend the case.
i dont know how you guys reason this o. But let me make things clearer. Each SCR was configured to each polling unit. If I'm meant to vote in polling unit A and I go to polling unit B, the SCR will not recognise my card. If I'm allowed to vote in B despite failure of SCR to accredit me, I can still move to A where I will be accredited and vote. Now that's multiple voting. Again SCR may not recognise the card if it's fake. So I don't really understand what u guys argue about. There is no provision for parties in the SCR. None. It doesn't work like phone. How many parties participated in the presidential election. Ask any P.O who claims he/she transmitted result through SCR how he or she keyed in the results. Despite being Corp members, some of them are stark illiterates. What they transmitted (if at all there was transmission) was total number of registered voters (which was already saved in the SCR), total number of accredited voters. The later is even automatically saved in the SCR. This is the reason every card reader is returned to inec headquarters. This is part of what they use for forensics. SCR does not have provision for votes scored by each party. I'm really shocked atiku bought into that dummy. Shows he is senseless

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