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Re: Did You Know SUDAN Has More PYRAMIDS Than Any Country On Earth? by Apollux(m): 11:28am On Apr 27, 2019 |
Amujale:See I'm an African and my sympathy will definitely want to sway to that but facts remained facts. Now civilization is different from human ancestry or where human developed from. It is different from earliest settlements. Though civilization does grow out of settlement but before a settlement can be called a civilization several things must be there. One food, building of monument and cities, having a civil governance with a standing army or military force. Now with these in mind, civilization started in three parts of the world almost at the same time between 3500 bc to 2500 bc. These places are the Indus River basin area, the Nile Valley and the fertile crescent of the euphrates and Tigris. Among these three, Euphrates is the oldest around 3200bc,while that of Egypt was around 3100bc. That of the Indus River was further down 2500 bc. There were other civilization that grew independently from these like the Aztecs and Mayans but they were much later. All other civilizations came from these. The sumerians led to the babylonians, Akkadians assyrians, Persians. While the Egyptians lead to that of Sudan or vise versa, nothing is so sure at these point. |
Re: Did You Know SUDAN Has More PYRAMIDS Than Any Country On Earth? by Amujale(m): 11:28am On Apr 27, 2019 |
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Re: Did You Know SUDAN Has More PYRAMIDS Than Any Country On Earth? by Amujale(m): 11:30am On Apr 27, 2019 |
musicwriter: I agree with you here. The so called "Greek Miracle" is a fraud and not a miracle at all, rather, a viscious exploitation of African intellect. |
Re: Did You Know SUDAN Has More PYRAMIDS Than Any Country On Earth? by Nobody: 11:31am On Apr 27, 2019 |
That’s a fat ass on that hieroglyph 1 Like |
Re: Did You Know SUDAN Has More PYRAMIDS Than Any Country On Earth? by musicwriter(m): 11:35am On Apr 27, 2019 |
benardtotti: sucre2: Please kindly delete your emails from Nairaland. If anybody need the books, simply email: kemeticphilosophy@gmail Thank you. |
Re: Did You Know SUDAN Has More PYRAMIDS Than Any Country On Earth? by musicwriter(m): 11:38am On Apr 27, 2019 |
OGOg: Human civilization did not begin in Summer. All the sciences says that human civilization began in Africa. If you could find 22,000 years old anything in ancient Summer, you could find a 13 million years old Lucy skeleton in Africa. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Did You Know SUDAN Has More PYRAMIDS Than Any Country On Earth? by Amujale(m): 11:38am On Apr 27, 2019 |
Apollux: Forget Eurocentric rhetoric, the main point is that Ancient Egypt predates Sumeria; the mainland predates Ancient Egypt. Hence, there are numerous civilisations that occurs in Africa prior to the creation of either Ancient Egypt or Sumeria. musicwriter: Things could become clearer once the Europeans realease all our historical items they have locked in a scientific relief and or museum. Although its fair to say, if one puts in the effort to study our items as is, the results are equally acceptable. 1 Like |
Re: Did You Know SUDAN Has More PYRAMIDS Than Any Country On Earth? by OGOg: 11:40am On Apr 27, 2019 |
Apollux:No sir The Sumerian civilization predates the flood, most believe that the book of genesis was actually adapted from Sumerian documentation. The cuneiform Sumerian texts u quoted has been dated to about 22000 b.c , even the Egyptian civilization predates the flood as evidenced by the water weathering on the sphinx in Giza demonstrating clearly that it was there during the flood, when it was exposed to heavy rain. Gobeklii tepe, estimated to be a pre-flood monument has reliefs of extinct pre-flood caving on stones. These are also verifiable 2 Likes |
Re: Did You Know SUDAN Has More PYRAMIDS Than Any Country On Earth? by Amujale(m): 11:42am On Apr 27, 2019 |
OGOg: I hear you. However, which flood are you refering to, because there are quite a few flood stories. I know of atleast 25 different flood stories. Most only are aware of the ONE that the jews saved for them Gobeklii tepe is the first religious gathering to appear in Europe but is definately NOT the birth place of civilisation because that belongs to Africa. |
Re: Did You Know SUDAN Has More PYRAMIDS Than Any Country On Earth? by XavierD(f): 11:43am On Apr 27, 2019 |
It feels good to read something intelligent on Nairaland for once. Good job 3 Likes |
Re: Did You Know SUDAN Has More PYRAMIDS Than Any Country On Earth? by Apollux(m): 11:46am On Apr 27, 2019 |
musicwriter: Sorry sir but it's not slavery that brought African civilizations down, it was conquest. Old Egyptian kingdom got conquered by Babylon which was in turn conquered by the Persians. They were conquered by the Europeans, Greeks and Romans. Later on the Persians got back up and fought the eastern arm of the Roman empire to a stand still. The two empires were so exhausted from the constant wars that when the rag tag Mohammedan Arabs came they easily conquered Persia and some of Europe. Then the Mongols too came along conquering same as the Turks. The truth is that the history of civilization is a history of conquest. When the Europeans came to Africa, they came with superior technology, which shows that their civilization had outgrown ours over the years. Though there were few skirmishes and wars between us and them, they won because they had guns and we don't. Slavery was the result of the victory tbey gained over us. Besides we credit the Europeans with the invention of guns but it was actually the Chinese that invented gun powder first, as far back as 1000bc. Do you know that Africa already had papyrus, a kind of paper made from the reeds of the red sea and Nile thousands of years before before Europeans. The Chinese already had rice paper before Europeans. The truth is if any civilization stays static, it gets outdated soon enough by more advancing and aggressive ones. African civilizations lost to others because we remained old and didn't advance not because of slavery. We should stop blaming slavery for our backwardness. 1 Like |
Re: Did You Know SUDAN Has More PYRAMIDS Than Any Country On Earth? by Alkanoicacid(m): 11:49am On Apr 27, 2019 |
musicwriter:Please how can I get the books? |
Re: Did You Know SUDAN Has More PYRAMIDS Than Any Country On Earth? by Amujale(m): 11:50am On Apr 27, 2019 |
Apollux: Eventhough i agree with you that Ancient Egypt brought down African civilisation, the combination of the stupendous betrayal of the Ancient Egyptians coupled with the horrors of the Trans Atlantic began a slipery slope towards realising the true African Identity. They are both the cause. |
Re: Did You Know SUDAN Has More PYRAMIDS Than Any Country On Earth? by Apollux(m): 12:00pm On Apr 27, 2019 |
Amujale:See Euro centric has nothing to do about this. A very strong evidence that sumer predates Egypt are the style of writings. Cuneiform predates Hieroglyphics. We can push that away as Euro centric, that is fact. The oldest written document is on a clay tablet feom sumer written in cuneiform. See I'm not saying Africa did not have an an old civilization, Africa did. It had one of the oldest and flourishing civilization. But sumer predates it. Though at one point they existed side by side. |
Re: Did You Know SUDAN Has More PYRAMIDS Than Any Country On Earth? by Amujale(m): 12:06pm On Apr 27, 2019 |
Apollux: That is just a nonsensical statement to make, read that back to yourself a few times and maybe you might realise my point. The above statement is a famous Eurocentric assertion ; is false and reads as a nonsense. Heres the accutate version, i.e as it supposs to read without the extra comment: Apollux: |
Re: Did You Know SUDAN Has More PYRAMIDS Than Any Country On Earth? by musicwriter(m): 12:06pm On Apr 27, 2019 |
Apollux: Your post seems a bit contradictory because you've listed conquest upon conquest against relatively peaceful African civilizations, yet you say it couldn't be a reason for our backwardness. If Africa conquered Europe, enslaved Europe, colonized Europe and gave them language, education, religion, of course, Europe would've been poor today. Don't you think so? There was nothing Europeans were doing incredibly better than the rest of the world when they got here, except that they've mastered the art of war and weaponry. Other civilizations weren't that savage. And its interesting you mentioned the Mongol. Genghis Khan and all his descendants always withdrew from conquered lands after a while. The European is the one that conquers a land and refuse to leave. All the countries that were never enslaved or colonized developed or at least better than all the enslaved and colonized nations. Now, I am not blaming slavery or colonialism for our own inability today to dig ourselves out of the mess. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Did You Know SUDAN Has More PYRAMIDS Than Any Country On Earth? by Apollux(m): 12:07pm On Apr 27, 2019 |
Amujale:Slavery in Africa is a relatively recent thing. The transatlantic slave trade is less than 500 years ago, while the Arabian Sahara slave trade is less than 1500 years ago. When we talk about African civilization, we are talking about events of more than 6000 years old. African civilization was not as powerful as it once was when the Arabs and Europeans came in contact with us for the slave trade. Okey lets take the 1st Italian Ethiopian war for instance. Though Ethiopia wan the war, but they fought with over a hundred thousand solders as against the Italians that fought with just few tens of thousands. The 2nd war between then saw the Italians completely over coming the Ethiopians because of more advanced military weapons. Like I said African civilization fell because other civilizations advanced, grew, invented superior military weapons and conquered us. |
Re: Did You Know SUDAN Has More PYRAMIDS Than Any Country On Earth? by musicwriter(m): 12:07pm On Apr 27, 2019 |
Alkanoicacid: Email: kemeticphilosophy@gmail |
Re: Did You Know SUDAN Has More PYRAMIDS Than Any Country On Earth? by Amujale(m): 12:16pm On Apr 27, 2019 |
Apollux: I agree with your analysis here, but all because of Africs's Ancient Egypt being in the hands of foreigners. i.e Asia and Europe. If Ancient Egypt didnt sell-out, they (the foreigners) wouldnt have been able to develop superior military weponry as quick and as reliable as the Ancient Egyptian technology allows. And more importantly, Africans would have had assess to their own technologies managed by Ancient Egypt. Furthernore, the horrors of the Trans Atlatic is equally HUGE factor no doubt. What happened in Ancient Egypt was Criminal and the Ancient Egyptians themselves are to share blame for their utter lack of judgement. The Egypt story is a living lesson on how not to behave when you are unbelievably powerful. Always take care of those that are weaker around you because you might not know what the future holds; maybe if the Ancient Egyptians had faced inwards with their kindness, wealth and power, they would have been rescued permanently when their troubles arose. 1 Like |
Re: Did You Know SUDAN Has More PYRAMIDS Than Any Country On Earth? by datigbogirl: 12:20pm On Apr 27, 2019 |
whytediamond: A question that begs answers honestly. We just swerved and veered comot and have been off tangent since God knows when. I think the introduction of sophisticated weaponry was responsible for our calamity, when the whites began plundering our lands and heritage. Perhaps the sword was actually mightier than the pen. In the edited words of Queen Cersie Lannister: "Knowledge isn't Power, Power is Power!" |
Re: Did You Know SUDAN Has More PYRAMIDS Than Any Country On Earth? by chineloSA(f): 12:20pm On Apr 27, 2019 |
It's because the modern day Sudanese were pushed away from Egypt by the modern day Arabs. Sudanese are the real Egyptians not those settlers called Arabs. One day the tables will turn, the whole land of North Africa will go back to the real owners. Lybia has started. It will be ruins and will never be habitable. Karma has its own ways of dealing with anyone. The Arabs will one day leave Africa just like Europeans never thought they will one day loose control of Africa. One day at a time, Arabs will be history. 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Did You Know SUDAN Has More PYRAMIDS Than Any Country On Earth? by datigbogirl: 12:27pm On Apr 27, 2019 |
Apollux: My thoughts exactly in my recent quote. I think Africa was skilled and advanced in many other major development except in the art of war. Knowledge isn't Power; Power is Power. A lesson we learnt too late. Imagine an impoverished & semiliterate country like North Korea keeping world powers on their toes, because they got Nuclear Weapons... 2 Likes |
Re: Did You Know SUDAN Has More PYRAMIDS Than Any Country On Earth? by Apollux(m): 12:29pm On Apr 27, 2019 |
Amujale:Trust me the transatlantic wasn't as bad as the transsahara slave trade. The transatlantic didn't last up to 200 years, the transsahara lasted more than a thousand years. See the transatlantic trade had surviors and their descendants, who are the African-Americans of today. The transsahara slaves didn't have surviors. The male where castrated so they couldn't have children. The women were sex slaves. So u hardly hear of people that were the descendants of the transatlantic slave trade But BTW how did Egypt betray African civilization. 1 Like |
Re: Did You Know SUDAN Has More PYRAMIDS Than Any Country On Earth? by Amujale(m): 12:36pm On Apr 27, 2019 |
Apollux: Yes i am aware of the fact that the Arabs and the horific transsahara campaign, they started it. The subject of Trans Atlantic gets my blood boiling and more importantly is very toxic. Many are tricked to believe they are going to KM.T, some are tricked that they are going to a wonderful place, a better place, but instead forcefully shipped to different locations on the planet to help build the rest of the world; especially Europe and The Americas. Africans built from the bottom up much of Europe and the Americas. And is definitely one of the worst atrocities ever committed towards any group of people anywhere in the world. 1 Like |
Re: Did You Know SUDAN Has More PYRAMIDS Than Any Country On Earth? by Rossikk(m): 12:57pm On Apr 27, 2019 |
xreal: YES. 1 Like |
Re: Did You Know SUDAN Has More PYRAMIDS Than Any Country On Earth? by Amujale(m): 1:00pm On Apr 27, 2019 |
Apollux: Because they sold-out in a stupendous way, Africans created KM.T and yet, when the Ancient Egyptians excelled to greater heights, they ignored the mainland and instead chose to befriend Asia and Europe. That began the slippery slope, eventually they got invaded and due to their outright betrayal didnt receive support from the mainland. It was common instances whereby they sided with the enemy in numerous failed attempts to conquer the mainlan. They failed woefuly everytime thanks to the people of Sudan and their impossible accuracy with the long bow. Many agressive forces backed by the Ancient Egyptians are pushed away from the gates of Sudan in body bags, most with arrows hanging out inbetween their eyes. 2 Likes |
Re: Did You Know SUDAN Has More PYRAMIDS Than Any Country On Earth? by Rossikk(m): 1:07pm On Apr 27, 2019 |
ADMAF: Kindly stop talking RUBBISH. The ancient Nubians were 100% BLACK AFRICANS. They were not ''Nubian Arabs''. There were Sudanese/Nubians thousands of years before there were any Arabs, who are a latter-day mixture of ancient blacks with foreign immigrants to the 'middle east' from Europe. Sudan in modern times is now a mixed Arab/black nation due to foreign infiltration of Arabs. Pretty much like Egypt is now white/Arab because of foreign invasions by Assyrians, Greeks, Romans and Arabs. But the original pyramid building empires of Egypt and Sudan were 100% BLACK empires led and run by black people for thousands of years before they were infiltrated by foreign elements. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Did You Know SUDAN Has More PYRAMIDS Than Any Country On Earth? by Rossikk(m): 1:12pm On Apr 27, 2019 |
caye: God bless you for this. You truly know your African history. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Did You Know SUDAN Has More PYRAMIDS Than Any Country On Earth? by Rossikk(m): 1:20pm On Apr 27, 2019 |
kay29000: First of all, we are really not that ''backward''. At the most we are technologically behind the west by maybe 50 - 60 years, which in historical terms, is like a day and half. Don't forget that China was underdeveloped and 'third world' as late as the 1980s. The majority were in absolute poverty and their middle class rode around in bicycles. Look at them today. It took them under 30 years to 'catch up'. Africa in the next 30 to 40 years at current economic growth rates will probably be a developed continent and manufacturing hub equal to anywhere else on earth. Note the slow GDP growth of Europe and America vis-a-vis the fact that today, 6 of the world's 10 fastest growing economies are in Africa. So we are 'catching up' fast. |
Re: Did You Know SUDAN Has More PYRAMIDS Than Any Country On Earth? by ADMAF(m): 1:24pm On Apr 27, 2019 |
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Re: Did You Know SUDAN Has More PYRAMIDS Than Any Country On Earth? by Rossikk(m): 1:30pm On Apr 27, 2019 |
TAO11: This is HUGELY interesting. Thanks for sharing. And there are definitely connections as you showed. ''Oba Koso'' actually DOES mean King of Kush. I keep telling people that West Africa is not the original home of our ancestors. They were mostly in the Nile Valley and so called 'middle east' regions and only began migrating to West Africa in the early centuries AD to escape desertification of the once fertile Sahara, and foreign invasions by Romans, Greeks and Arabs. This is why virtually every West African group has a traditional history of migration. Taharqa, who ruled Nubia and Egypt 3,000 years ago, looks like any Yoruba or Itsekiri man: ..................... ![]() 3 Likes 1 Share |
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