raumdeuter:


The bottom line here is that no 2 human are the same, As long as you are born female, you are female, That Alice chemical composition is not same as Janet does not make her less woman than her friend

And telling an athlete to go modify her chemical makeup that she was born with is all shade of wrong.

Are we going to get to a level where we decide the height a man, the breat size of a woman etc should be and all those who fall short should take some medication to catch up

Dayo, you are guys are pushing the limits.

How come Semenya only identifies as a female in sports? How come she does not identify as a female in social and normal settings? Simply because she understands the advantage she has in that setting when competing with other females. Let me put it in deeper perspectives for you. Do you know Semenya has internal testes? has no ovaries or uterus? That means the biological situations other women undergo are not nearly applicable to her. Do you think that gives her an advantage? I have shown you the disparity in the levels of testosterone when compared to other females yet you think the IAAF is discriminating? The disparity is a gulf, they are not just a little high, they are incredibly high.

I think the case and truth based on science and fact is that she is indeed getting away with cheating because the field is not level.

raumdeuter:


Ok if it oestrogen doesnt give you any advantage, testosterone does, If Usain Bolt can lower his testosterone enough will he qualify for female sports?

I dont agree with the idea of gender fluidity. it simply means A boy if he cant compete with fellow boys can take medications to allow him compete with girls and vice versa

Exactly. Oestrogen is not a hormone that provides athletic advantage. I do not know if it's humanly possible for Usain Bolt to lower his testosterone levels to be able to compete in female sport without borderline changing his sex

Well if the boy was born with female organs and can reduce his testosterone levels to the point where they are at par with a woman's then have at it

raumdeuter:


Appearance is also as a result of genes, Genes are responsible for height, muscle tone, ad everything that makes you male

Why should Semenya now take medication to adjust her natural genetic makeup?

She was literally born with male gonads.

I don't understand this Klopp with this 'fear fear' formation.

Roland17:


Dayo, you are guys are pushing the limits.

How come Semenya only identifies as a female in sports? How come she does not identify as a female in social and normal settings? Simply because she understands the advantage she has in that setting when competing with other females. Let me put it in deeper perspectives for you. Do you know Semenya has internal testes? has no ovaries or uterus? That means the biological situations other women undergo are not nearly applicable to her. Do you think that gives her an advantage? I have shown you the disparity in the levels of testosterone when compared to other females yet you think the IAAF is discriminating? The disparity is a gulf, they are not just a little high, they are incredibly high.

I think the case and truth based on science and fact is that she is indeed getting away with cheating because the field is not level.

Thats because she is gay. There are many gay female athletes who dont identify as female in social settings

[img]https://ozaragossip.files./2014/10/b215f-765991464546741654_299314746.jpg?w=577&h=577[/img]

Do you think Chichi Igbi identifies as female in social settings?

airmark:
I don't understand this Klopp with this 'fear fear' formation.

E good bro. Na away game

SkimpleD:
Auturo Vidal should start against Liverpool.

They would need that strength in the middle of the pack.

And Vidal starts

raumdeuter:


People will always complain regardless. Do you think we don't have some white people who think blacks have an unfair advantage in physical sports?
A 12yr old Lukaku was said to be physically bigger than other boys and some people complained, Same with Lebron

When we start catering to one complaint, then why not others?

No they will have no legitimate reason to complain as they will belong under same bracket. As far as sports go that is the only fair route.

We are talking of a hormone that implies possessing numerous traits of the physically stronger gender. In a sport where those traits clearly aid your ability to succeed

A40:

Exactly. Oestrogen is not a hormone that provides athletic advantage. I do not know if it's humanly possible for Usain Bolt to lower his testosterone levels to be able to compete in female sport without borderline changing his sex

Well if the boy was born with female organs and can reduce his testosterone levels to the point where they are at par with a woman's then have at it
She was literally born with male gonads.

if you are saying Semenya should lower her testosterone, that same medication in higher doses enough might reduce the for Usain too, dont you think so?

raumdeuter:


Thats because she is gay. There are many gay female athletes who dont identify as female in social settings

[img]https://ozaragossip.files./2014/10/b215f-765991464546741654_299314746.jpg?w=577&h=577[/img]

Do you think Chichi Igbi identifies as female in social settings?

Are you saying every female gay person has high testosterone levels? Don't get it twisted, Semenya's case is not anywhere comparable to Chichi's. Chichi does not have incredibly high levels of testosterone that compromise competition rules and that is why she plays with females.
Chichi alongside other ladies get tested and abide by the rules and policies set by the competition.

A40:
No they will have no legitimate reason to complain as they will belong under same bracket. As far as sports go that is the only fair route.

We are talking of a hormone that implies possessing numerous traits of the physically stronger gender. In a sport where those traits clearly aid your ability to succeed

Why is Lukaku way bigger than other 12yr olds? He probably has a gene in him that made him bigger. If there was a $10M award for the best 12yr old, Do you think Lukaku wont be said to be competing unfairly since he has a gene that made him as tall as an 18yr old when he was 12

raumdeuter:


if you are saying Semenya should lower her testosterone, that same medication in higher doses enough might reduce the for Usain too, dont you think so?

Testosterone is also tested in men's athletics, in case you are not aware, however, the range is different in comparison to females because it is the dominant hormone in men. So far, results from Bolts testings have not shown elevated levels or a spike in his levels that will cause any concerns or signs of doping.

What exactly do you think is doping in sports? I can give you a list of athletes, boxers, who were banned because their testosterone results led to the discovery of doping.

Loserpool die this night!

airmark:
I don't understand this Klopp with this 'fear fear' formation.

exactly what i thought when i saw the formation.. he should have went with his normal 3 at the front

raumdeuter:


if you are saying Semenya should lower her testosterone, that same medication in higher doses enough might reduce the for Usain too, dont you think so?

To what purpose? You do realize him lowering his testosterone levels would affect his ability to mekwe as an actual man. What would be the downside to Caster reducing her testosterone levels if she's a woman as she insists

Barca na mad club see where they put LFC fans
Minority against majority
Glad klopp didn't start AA cos he will struggle big time against fast wingers

raumdeuter:


And Vidal starts

Egbon, have you ever imagined if a man of God coaches a club?

Salah is a goat. Nihilist, watch him closely tonight.
Mane is the real MVP

Alba go hear am

See as dem dey play barca..while barca be waiting for a counter.

This ref is a bastard

This referee want to be unfortunate abi
Yellow card na

This match na die!

sod09:
Barca na mad club see where they put LFC fans
Minority against majority
Glad klopp didn't start AA cos he will struggle big time against fast wingers

You need the prices for away ticket and the quota Barca allocated to Liverpool.

Sallah will kill these people oo

After all the good works, salah still can't get a ball to the intended team mate.

Roland17:


You need the prices for away ticket and the quota Barca allocated to Liverpool.

they put them where there voices can't be heard

That’s a PK na.

Var

raumdeuter:


Why is Lukaku way bigger than other 12yr olds? He probably has a gene in him that made him bigger. If there was a $10M award for the best 12yr old, Do you think Lukaku wont be said to be competing unfairly since he has a gene that made him as tall as an 18yr old when he was 12

Being bigger is different from possessing male characteristics that provide an advantage in a female sport.

If this were the UFC for example, do you think Caster would be allowed or should be allowed to fight other women?

Liverpool playing well but needs to score.

Put firmino and return wijadum na
This Henderson is useless Jo

Barca is winning tonight

Suarez