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Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by OyinbowithaTan(m): 2:57am On May 10, 2019
We Was K say it
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by mysticwarrior(m): 4:59pm On May 10, 2019
AngryNijerian:
I told a friend but he wouldn't believe that those Arabians in Egypt are not the real/ancient Egyptians. Those Arabians must have invaded them, killed them and took over their land.
you are absolutely right, the original inhabitant of ancient Egypt are darker than the Arabs who are currently the majority in Egypt, the descendants of the Ancient Egyptians could still be found in certain areas of Egypt, they are few in population and are mostly Coptic Christians.
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by mysticwarrior(m): 5:30pm On May 10, 2019
Rossikk:


It takes some audacity to invade another man's land and call him lazy while stealing his inheritance. Why didn't the ''hardworking'' Europeans stay in Europe and develop their countries?
have you ever asked your self why the whites didn't try to kill us and claim our land in subsaharan Africa? They left when things were begining to get out of hand for them, in Haiti the French were shamefuly driven out of by the same slave they brought to that land, the Italians were humiliated in Ethiopia, one thing the white man fear most is to be humiliated by negroes, in west Africa we didn't gave the white men privileges to mess around because we are strong, but I can't say the same for the southern Africans, and native Americans who allowed the white men to punish them in their own land, if somebody came to your land uninvited and try to steal it from you it is expected that you put up a fierce and bitter resistance and chase them out or give them unbearable conditions to force them out, inabilty to display such caurage is a sign of weakness.
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by grandstar(m): 6:43pm On May 10, 2019
mysticwarrior:
have you ever asked your self why the whites didn't try to kill us and claim our land in subsaharan Africa? They left when things were begining to get out of hand for them, in Haiti the French were shamefuly driven out of by the same slave they brought to that land, the Italians were humiliated in Ethiopia, one thing the white man fear most is to be humiliated by negroes, in west Africa we didn't gave the white men privileges to mess around because we are strong, but I can't say the same for the southern Africans, and native Americans who allowed the white men to punish them in their own land, if somebody came to your land uninvited and try to steal it from you it is expected that you put up a fierce and bitter resistance and chase them out or give them unbearable conditions to force them out, inabilty to display such caurage is a sign of weakness.

I doubt the South Americans were weaker than us.

First, in North and South America, the colonisers practiced settler colonisation where they brought their people in large numbers to settle. Only in a few African countries was settlers colonisation practiced such as Algeria, South Africa, Mozambique, Angola, Zimbabwe and Namibia.

Only in Algeria and South Africa was settler colonisation strongly practiced

We need to remember a lot of Amerindians were killed by diseases the white man brought to the New World. This was not the same with Africa which had contact with Europeans and Arabs for thousands of years. It is estimated that is Peru lost 90% of it's population after the white man arrived

We should have remember that apart from the whites settling in the Americas, they also brought black slaves. Black slaves brought wealth to their white owners but meant their owners had a permanent presence. These slaves made their owners wealthy so they had a stake in staying. In Africa, the whites did not set up any farms in Africa except in South Africa, Sao Tome, Cape Verde, Mauritius (with a small white minority), Kenya and Zimbabwe.

Whites didn't settle enmasse in Africa as it was called the white man's grave. The weather was inhospitable and malaria made the continent a graveyard. Whites rarely passed the coast.

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Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by OyinbowithaTan(m): 7:42pm On May 10, 2019
mysticwarrior:
have you ever asked your self why the whites didn't try to kill us and claim our land in subsaharan Africa? They left when things were begining to get out of hand for them, in Haiti the French were shamefuly driven out of by the same slave they brought to that land, the Italians were humiliated in Ethiopia, one thing the white man fear most is to be humiliated by negroes, in west Africa we didn't gave the white men privileges to mess around because we are strong, but I can't say the same for the southern Africans, and native Americans who allowed the white men to punish them in their own land, if somebody came to your land uninvited and try to steal it from you it is expected that you put up a fierce and bitter resistance and chase them out or give them unbearable conditions to force them out, inabilty to display such caurage is a sign of weakness.
The purpose of Columbus' voyages was to bypass the Muslims/Turks and find another route to the East for trade. What Columbus discovered in the Americas was excellent for setting up shop and making money, sugar, tobacco, coffee, minerals, and later on stuff like Rum. Remember these were Trading Companies early on, then they became colonies of X country later on.
The primary purpose was the make money. Therefore with new land suitable for large plantations, and lots of goods to trade with Africans, the Africans could trade with slaves. It was mutual. And now with an entire new continent why piss off your trading partners?
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by codemaniacs: 7:48pm On May 10, 2019
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Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by OyinbowithaTan(m): 7:51pm On May 10, 2019
grandstar:


I doubt the South Americans were weaker than us.

First, in North and South America, the colonisers practiced settler colonisation where they brought their people in large numbers to settle. Only in a few African countries was settlers colonisation practiced such as Algeria, South Africa, Mozambique, Angola, Zimbabwe and Namibia.

Only in Algeria and South Africa was settler colonisation strongly practiced

We need to remember a lot of Amerindians were killed by diseases the white man brought to the New World. This was not the same with Africa which had contact with Europeans and Arabs for thousands of years. It is estimated that is Peru lost 90% of it's population after the white man arrived

We should have remember that apart from the whites settling in the Americas, they also brought black slaves. Black slaves brought wealth to their white owners but meant their owners had a permanent presence. These slaves made their owners wealthy so they had a stake in staying. In Africa, the whites did not set up any farms in Africa except in South Africa, Sao Tome, Cape Verde, Mauritius (with a small white minority), Kenya and Zimbabwe.

Whites didn't settle enmasse in Africa as it was called the white man's grave. The weather was inhospitable and malaria made the continent a graveyard. Whites rarely passed the coast.

And the Caribbean, S. America was lovely? Euros has no issue making the place suitable for making money, of course it isn't a good idea to try to tame the Nile rain forest.
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by mysticwarrior(m): 7:52pm On May 10, 2019
grandstar:


I doubt the South Americans were weaker than us.

First, in North and South America, the colonisers practiced settler colonisation where they brought their people in large numbers to settle. Only in a few African countries was settlers colonisation practiced such as Algeria, South Africa, Mozambique, Angola, Zimbabwe and Namibia.

Only in Algeria and South Africa was settler colonisation strongly practiced

We need to remember a lot of Amerindians were killed by diseases the white man brought to the New World. This was not the same with Africa which had contact with Europeans and Arabs for thousands of years. It is estimated that is Peru lost 90% of it's population after the white man arrived

We should have remember that apart from the whites settling in the Americas, they also brought black slaves. Black slaves brought wealth to their white owners but meant their owners had a permanent presence. These slaves made their owners wealthy so they had a stake in staying. In Africa, the whites did not set up any farms in Africa except in South Africa, Sao Tome, Cape Verde, Mauritius (with a small white minority), Kenya and Zimbabwe.

Whites didn't settle in Africa as it was called the white man's grave. The weather was inhospitable and malaria made the continent a graveyard. Whites rarely passed the coast.
the native Americans were weaker than us, they have a weak immune system that was why they died of diseases brought by the whites, the whites came to Africa and our body system resisted the disease from reducing our population, don't forget that the whites were also in India, Philippines and indonasia, but it was only in North, central and south American that the native population was almost entirely wiped out from imported disease, weak immune system means weak people. black south Africans has often boasted of their Zulu warrior heritage, Chaka the most famous of all Zulu warrior was busy trying to subjugate other tribes for his own selfish interest instead of uniting them to drive the white men away. The weather conditions of plateau state Nigeria was 100% percent hospitable for the white, they could have stayed in plateau state and forced all the indigenous people there out if it was that easy, but they knew that Nigeria is filled with fierce warrior tribes like the, Tarok, Berom, Angas above all the JUKUNS who are known to be very hard and dangerous fighters, these people were ready to defend their land till every last man. My brother lets face fact here the south Africans were too weak to defend theirland. Forget about settler colonisation.
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by OyinbowithaTan(m): 8:02pm On May 10, 2019
mysticwarrior:
the native Americans were weaker than us, they have a weak immune system that was why they died of diseases brought by the whites, the whites came to Africa and our body system resisted the disease from reducing our population, don't forget that the whites were also in India, Philippines and indonasia, but it was only in North, central and south American that the native population was almost entirely wiped out, weak immune system means weak people. black south Africans has often boasted of their Zulu warrior heritage, Chaka the most famous of all Zulu warrior was busy trying to subjugate other tribes for his oen selfish interest instead of uniting them to drive the white men away. The weather conditions of plateau state Nigeria was 100% percent hospitable for the white, they could have stayed in plateau state and forced all the indigenous people there out, but they knew that Nigeria is filled with fierce warrior tribes who would be ready to defend their land till every last man. My brother lets face fact here the south Africans were too weak to defend theirland. Forget about settler colonisation.
Native Americans did struggle with some Euro diseases, but it varied from tribe to tribe. What else they still struggle with today is Alcohol. They get messed up easy.
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by mysticwarrior(m): 8:06pm On May 10, 2019
OyinbowithaTan:
Native Americans did struggle with some Euro diseases, but it varied from tribe to tribe. What else they still struggle with today is Alcohol. They get messed up easy.
modern native Americans are alcoholic, and live in extreme poverty, crime rate is very high in Indian reservations.

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Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by codemaniacs: 8:06pm On May 10, 2019
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Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by codemaniacs: 8:14pm On May 10, 2019
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Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by OyinbowithaTan(m): 8:37pm On May 10, 2019
codemaniacs:


native Americans are Africans so how can they weaker than Africans...

they were not many in north america, they were many in Haiti....

West Africans had traditional doctors that were very skilled...

native Americans/Africans died because most of their doctors died too...
Nope, that is insane. The originally came from Asia. And that is what their DNA says also.
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by OyinbowithaTan(m): 8:38pm On May 10, 2019
codemaniacs:


money is a new creation... there were no trading companies in Africa

Africans never traded amongst themselves they shared amongst themselves... that's why you see artwork of different ethnic nations looking very similar.

Africans already had farms for sugar, tobacco, coffee, minerals e.t.c.

Africans also never traded slaves..

they just want to try and ensure Africans don't work together for the progress of themselves...

why would an ETHNIC nation trade themselves for things they could invent...

I put ethnic in caps because there would have been loyalty to a stronger ethnic nation, to attack one person of an ethnic nation means to attack everyone from that nation and their allies.

have you ever asked yourself how the europeans would have navigated west Africa with all the poisonous snakes, wild animals, deadly insects, very hot sun e.t.c.. that west Africans already knew about

please for your own good stop swallowing euro-centric rubbish and deceptive history....

Hogwash.
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by mysticwarrior(m): 8:40pm On May 10, 2019
codemaniacs:


native Americans are Africans so how can they weaker than Africans...

they were not many in north america, they were many in Haiti....

West Africans had traditional doctors that were very skilled...

native Americans/Africans died because most of their doctors died too...
read your post over and over again and listen to how subordnormal you sound.
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by OyinbowithaTan(m): 8:43pm On May 10, 2019
mysticwarrior:
modern native Americans are alcoholic, and live in extreme poverty, crime rate is very high in Indian reservations.
In North America some still do live on reservations. Some tribes got lucky with special Gaming permits and they have built nice casinos on their property. But I can tell you the illegal immigrants from C. America, they get drunk and smash their cars into others and kill others daily. It is a very under reported problem in the USA.
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by mysticwarrior(m): 2:44am On May 11, 2019
OyinbowithaTan:
Nope, that is insane. The originally came from Asia. And that is what their DNA says also.
yes I strongly Agree with you, this is the reason the native Americans are classified as mongoloids.

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Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by Amujale(m): 3:23am On May 11, 2019
African people circumnavigate the seas and oceans to discover the Americas thousands of years ago during the Olmec Xi civilisation. Modern day historians identify the Olmec with the Mandé people.

Whilst Africans are already well established, living in their glourious communities, the Red Indians walked the steps of Eurasia reaching the Americas on foot.

The Red Indians met various African communities already present in the Americas, as did the Europeans that came later. We fed them, clothed them and taught them how to communicate with God.

And now they want to claim Native American without the proper proclamation of Africas great influence on the continent.
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by mysticwarrior(m): 3:57am On May 11, 2019
Amujale:
African people circumnavigate the seas and oceans to discover the Americas thousands of years ago during the Olmec Xi civilisation. Modern day historians identify the Olmec with the Mandé people.

Whilst Africans are already well established, living in their glourious communities, the Red Indians walked the steps of Eurasia reaching the Americas on foot.

The Red Indians met various African communities already present in the Americas, as did the Europeans that came later. We fed them, clothed them and taught them how to communicate with God.

And now they want to claim Native American without the proper proclamation of Africas great influence on the continent.

una don Start
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by Amujale(m): 4:15pm On May 11, 2019
mysticwarrior:
una don Start

For one to truly get understanding African history, certain conditions are to hold; one is to disregard rhetoric, foreign hear say and all other anti-African discourse with regards to history.

Furthermore, to regard African history as genuine, If it isn’t written, deliberated-upon or judged by Africans to be correct and accurate beyond reasonable doubt, such writings that fit into these category must, for now, simply be deemed inadmissible.

That is to say, in a sense, most of the present Eurocentric and Asian discourse on African history will be deemed to be false and invalid.

The universally accepted solution to defeating manufactured history and its negative impacts as proven by the Chineese and Indians, is by identifying them as false and re-re-placing them with the local and real history and then stopping to source from them.

The only true African history is that which is derived by an African(s), by default all other versions are false.

The discourse on European history is primarily exclusive to European writers.

The discourse on Asia’s history is primarily exclusive to Asian writers.

The discourse on Africa’s history is primarily badly concocted by European and Asian writers. This is where all of us (you and I) come in and repair the damage for the benefit of the next generations and our own overstanding.

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Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by Nobody: 5:25pm On May 11, 2019
Rossikk:


Don't be so sure.
i'm so sure no one will pay for their death.
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by gatiano(m): 8:27pm On May 11, 2019
Who told you europeans abolished slavery? they did so after colonization had taken shape. Truely so, those eagle beak for a nose good for nothing people called the arabs decimated Africa, but they weren't the first.

y3mi:
Arabs in many shades did far more worse to Africans for centuries, who talks about that?

Keep hating on Europeans who even abolished slavery while neglecting them Arabs who still continue to enslave negroes in Africa.

Ignorant amnesiacs.

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Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by gatiano(m): 8:29pm On May 11, 2019
You are very right, and you are in tune with your intuition. Nobody can tell what happen in my house except for Me, and I will surely pass it on unto my children.

Amujale:


My take is that for one to truly get understanding African history, certain conditions are to hold; one is to disregard rhetoric, foreign hear say and all other anti-African discourse with regards to history.

Furthermore, to regard African history as genuine, If it isn’t written, deliberated-upon or judged by Africans to be correct and accurate beyond reasonable doubt, such writings that fit into these category must, for now, simply be deemed inadmissible.

That is to say, in a sense, most of the present Eurocentric and Asian discourse on African history will be deemed to be false and invalid.

The only true African history is that which is derived by an African(s), by default all other versions are false.

The discourse on European history is primarily exclusive to European writers.

The discourse on Asia’s history is primarily exclusive to Asian writers.

The discourse on Africa’s history is primarily badly concocted by European and Asian writers. This is where all of us (you and I) come in and repair the damage for the benefit of the next generations and our own overstanding.

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Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by Amujale(m): 8:45pm On May 11, 2019
gatiano:
You are very right, and you are in tune with your intuition. Nobody can tell what happen in my house except for Me, and I will surely pass it on unto my children.


Thank you sir. I am truly humbled.
You are an inspiration to me, to African progress.

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Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by Nobody: 12:35pm On May 12, 2019
y3mi:
Arabs in many shades did far more worse to Africans for centuries, who talks about that?

Keep hating on Europeans who even abolished slavery while neglecting them Arabs who still continue to enslave negroes in Africa.

Ignorant amnesiacs.
both Arab and Europeans are criminals, they committed a great crime on blacks.
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by mysticwarrior(m): 12:48pm On May 14, 2019
Amujale:


I agree with you here.

Ancient Egypt is being destroyed by the combine forces of Eurocentrics and the Arabian and Persian fundamentalists.

In antiquity, ancient Egypt often the arena of their monumental battles.

Most of the African people currently living in the North of the continent have set themselves priorities that are unAfrican.

have you ever heard of the Nubian's? The Nubians are excellent fighters and a warrior nation of Dark skinned people, in ancient times Nubia conquered and ruled over Egypt. The decendants of the Nubians could still be found in Southern Egypt and the Juba region of northern Sudan.

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Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by Amujale(m): 4:30pm On May 14, 2019
mysticwarrior:
have you ever heard of the Nubian's? The Nubians are excellent fighters and a warrior nation of Dark skinned people, in ancient times Nubia conquered and ruled over Egypt. The decendants of the Nubians could still be found in Southern Egypt and the Juba region of northern Sudan.

Yes, i know of Nubia and their current presence. In my opinion and that of many African historians and academics, in antiquity Nubians are arguably more important to the continent than Ancient Egypt.

The Nubians are known to us as protectors of the continent, they fought and won countless battles against the coalition of Ancient Egypt and foreign forces.

Nubian forces are internationally reknowned for their impossible accuracy with the long bow. On a few occasions are said to have taken over the helm in KM.T and returned to base when the dust has settled.

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Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by morpheus24: 5:06pm On May 14, 2019
Amujale:
African people circumnavigate the seas and oceans to discover the Americas thousands of years ago during the Olmec Xi civilisation. Modern day historians identify the Olmec with the Mandé people.

Afrocentric mythology. No DNA proof, no archealogical proof.

Amujale:

Whilst Africans are already well established, living in their glourious communities, the Red Indians walked the steps of Eurasia reaching the Americas on foot.
First they were eskimos, now they are red Indians. You people don start.

The Asians that crossed the bering straights did so about 6000-11,000 years ago. If they did meet any peoples in that regions the would have been at the best Melanesian peoples who crossed from islands in the pacific ocean to the Southern parts of America. These people are not African people any more so than Aboriginal peoples are African. They may have been dark skinned in complextion but phenotypically and genetically were not African peoples. Stop spreading Afro centric propaganda.

The evidence is in the DNA. two of the oldest human skeletons found in the new world dating back to 11,000 years ago but point to native American DNA clusters and 0 African DNA.

If you test any Aboriginal native American community today, you will not find a drop of African DNA in them that is contemporary to that of Africans that exist today.

Amujale:

The Red Indians met various African communities already present in the Americas, as did the Europeans that came later. We fed them, clothed them and taught them how to communicate with God.

Asians and not red Indians crossed the bering straights, Their complexions are a result of varying degrees of genetic adaptations and a retention of certain phenotypes that suite a specific climate.



Amujale:

And now they want to claim Native American without the proper proclamation of Africas great influence on the continent.


We are not downing Africa's contributions to civilizations but your theory is far fetched and folk tales. The evidence used to back it up is circumstantial at best. DNA will disprove this assertion every single time.
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by morpheus24: 5:11pm On May 14, 2019
Amujale:


My take is that for one to truly get understanding African history, certain conditions are to hold; one is to disregard rhetoric, foreign hear say and all other anti-African discourse with regards to history.

In other words we are to remain objective when we are inspecting information to see if it is factual or not. Something you obviously are not doing since you are pushing an Afro centric rhetoric.

Amujale:

Furthermore, to regard African history as genuine, If it isn’t written, deliberated-upon or judged by Africans to be correct and accurate beyond reasonable doubt, such writings that fit into these category must, for now, simply be deemed inadmissible.

This is called Afrocentrism. An African centered perspective on "Objective' information, in order words a biased viewpoint of history.

Amujale:

That is to say, in a sense, most of the present Eurocentric and Asian discourse on African history will be deemed to be false and invalid.

The only true African history is that which is derived by an African(s), by default all other versions are false.

The discourse on European history is primarily exclusive to European writers.

The discourse on Asia’s history is primarily exclusive to Asian writers.

The discourse on Africa’s history is primarily badly concocted by European and Asian writers. This is where all of us (you and I) come in and repair the damage for the benefit of the next generations and our own overstanding.

A very nonsensical statement at the best.

So If an African sleeps with White person and produces a mixed race kid and in your paradigm you proclaim that child to be black, are you being objective or are you being Subjective?
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by morpheus24: 5:15pm On May 14, 2019
OyinbowithaTan:
Nope, that is insane. The originally came from Asia. And that is what their DNA says also.

If you present Amujale with all the evidence in the world to support this assertion he will tell you it is Eurocentric science and should therefore be discarded but the same person will take a penicillin shot when the olosho he hammered gave him Gonorrhea.

SMH!
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by morpheus24: 5:18pm On May 14, 2019
codemaniacs:


Africans never traded amongst themselves they shared amongst themselves... that's why you see artwork of different ethnic nations looking very similar.

So trade by barter is not trading at all. Hmmmm?

codemaniacs:


Africans also never traded slaves..

Yet all the royal houses of the Yoruba and Dahomey Kingdoms have corroborating historical accounts of selling people to the Europeans.

The Sokoto and Kano emirates founded by Othman Dan fodio, African muslims also have accounts of selling other "heathen" Africans to Arabs and Europeans alike.

Na wa for some people o!

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Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by morpheus24: 5:22pm On May 14, 2019
OyinbowithaTan:
In North America some still do live on reservations. Some tribes got lucky with special Gaming permits and they have built nice casinos on their property. But I can tell you the illegal immigrants from C. America, they get drunk and smash their cars into others and kill others daily. It is a very under reported problem in the USA.

PS These central Americans you speak of are technically Native Americans as well no, so you speaking of the same stock of people as we well know that a good percentage of the so called Native Americans in those reservations with Casinos are not "pure" ethnically.

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