Maxcollins042:

Show me a soldier that doesn't take pleasure in destruction, plundering and rape and I will show you a parent that is still a virgin.

Are the Dorthrakis the only fighters given the Lassa faire to met out those inhumane treatment on the people of KL?

You saw the look on Jon's face when things went haywire, right? And you obviously know that he isn't new to the battlefield. So why was he surprised? Why should an experienced soldier like him be surprised?

The reason is because in war, when your opponent surrenders, you halt the attack. They have already surrendered, so why are you still attacking them? Even Ser Davos was surprised, another fighter.

There are levels to madness, and the Dothraki raiders are at the top of the chain bar the Mad Queen.

IamD18:

I so much like this guy[The hound]. Dude was as dope as fvck, his fvck words dey give me joy.

I really enjoyed his togetherness with Arya.

My best character, he is.

His character development was top notch, from the most hated in the first episode (after killing the butchers boy) to the most loved in the last season.

Cybertext:


His character development was top notch, from the most hated in the first episode (after killing the butchers boy) to the most loved in the last season.

Aswearugad! Dude was Lit.

He was a brave fvcker.

I was as scared as fvck when "The Mountain" was attempting to burst his head by pressing his eyes just like he did to Oberyn.

But fvck! Dude kept stabbing him pleading for him to just die.

I'll miss the dude.

eazyhifii:


Lol that wasn't a crime and shouldn't even be cus most people present at the sept were her enemies and hateful people.

Omo that scene made me fall in love with cersei sef
One of the best scenes in GOT.

Go and check the definition of a crime first.

You guys pitying all this KL people sef, at the time of Ned stark na so them kill baba, cersie walk of shame too imagine their queen fa. Lol

So even the children deserved to be burned to death?

GloryIsaac:


You saw the look on Jon's face when things went haywire, right? And you obviously know that he isn't new to the battlefield. So why was he surprised? Why should an experienced soldier like him be surprised?

The reason is because in war, when your opponent surrenders, you halt the attack. They have already surrendered, so why are you still attacking them? Even Ser Davos was surprised, another fighter.

There are levels to madness, and the Dothraki raiders are at the top of the chain bar the Mad Queen.

If you had followed the story keenly right from season one or even read the book, you would have figured out that Jon was trained to become a fighter but he hates to fight.

They were surprised because this wasn't what they knew the dragon queen for. Ser Davos have seen worst things than this but never expected that the queen would do such. The deal was to make Cercei surrender while they overtake the city without ramping up the casualties. So it's expected of them to wear the confounded look when things took an unexpected turn from their perspective.

Moreover, the dorthraki and every other soldier there were merely following orders from above. It wasn't even only the Dorthraki that went on a murder and raping spree. There were other soldiers there that exhibited their own brand of madness as well.

Maxcollins042:


If you had followed the story keenly right from season one or even read the book, you would have figured out that Jon was trained to become a fighter but he hates to fight.

Sorry, bro, you are wrong!
You can't hate something and be good in it. The only character that can pass for this is Sam Tarley, not Jon. Was there any scene that supports your notion?

Right from the very beginning, he loved fighting. He made Arya her first sword, remember? He actually wanted her to be a fighter, too. If he hated it, he wouldn't encourage any other person to do it. Also, this same Jon was pissed when he wasn't made a fighter in the Night's watch. He loved training other fighters there. Avoiding fights once in a while and being honorable doesn't prove he hates fighting.

eazyhifii:


Yeah she burnt down a church that was filled with her enemies, It was justifiable.

you have a problem. what enemies are you talking about?
you mean the sparrows that arent even up to 50 or what. better think well guy

geezyk:
True though, I love your replies, it reeks of intelligence.

Thank you sir..Means a lot..

mandysmum:
Nope. The distrust started way before this incident. In the scene where Dany,Jon, Tyrion and others were planning the battle strategies at Winterfell, just before leaving for Kings landing, Greyworm acted really weird. Tyrion had just said Jon and Ser Davis will go by road,with the remaining northmen, Dothraki and Unsullied. As he was speaking,Jon gathered the corresponding stones to him on the battle map. Greyworm walked to Jon and removed the stone for the Unsullied and placed it back with his Queen. Jon looked at him oddly at that moment. That was the moment I noticed a hidden beef from Greyworm.

Jon hadn't even told his sisters at this point, so Tyrion had no clue of Jon's true parentage. Missandei was also alive. So what was Greyworm's problem then?

Greyworm ehn That niccur has some real issues. Torgo's silly pettiness, I believe, took root during Jon's first meeting with Dany at Dragonstone. That meeting, you'll remember, didn't end well for both parties, with Jon being a tad-bit insolent towards the Queen (even as much as figuratively calling her a child) and refusing to bend the knee in the end. As a loyal servant of Dany, one can forgive Greyworm for perceiving Jon as a pompous entitled twa.t who thinks himself a rival to the Unsullied captain's queen.
That guy's loyalty na like a zombie's. E no dey hear go come.

Unpopular opinion:


Some fans wanted the NK to reach kings landing so that cersie will feel winter small ...


Dany brought the heat to kings landing instead (people are now complaining)

Buharifanatic:
did he do it on his own


Dany can on her own walk into fire and out


Mention another character that can?


Don't waste ur time, the the entire lore, no one is bigger than her asides aegon the conqueror

Jon has been a passive character in season 8. This is because of his peace making nature. He claims Daenerys to be his queen (an excuse he uses to avoid being an opposition to her). But the final episode will tell who indeed is the greatest Character

GRIMMJOE:
I've never for once watched smallville,but merlin is an OK show where good is good,bad is bad,evil is evil,and heroes are heroes, King Authur didn't just wake up one day and be like I'll slay every one because they killed my dad.
Yes he had the power to do so,an Excalibur,sword powerful than any dragon glass or Valerian steel put together, a wizard powerful than the god of light himself and a full blown dragon who's not only known for its brut strength but un comprehend able knowledge,yet he cried like a little girl,looked back and moved on.
So I tell you this A bad show is a bad show

Every TV has its setbacks. In Daenerys Character development it has always been displayed to us that she had psychotic issues (just like her brother and ancestors).

Show runners showed how she watched her brother die without shedding a tear. Even the worst of villains care for their kinsman

Buharifanatic:
I know the meaning

Jon's father showed some madness, in fact he is the one that caused all these

Why are u not calling Jon mad?


If he didn't take lynanna, Ned father wouldn't have been killed and Robert wouldn't have had Ned's support to win the war


Forget Dany is not mad, the show just wants to do what they know, end in a different way from other shows


The way game of thrones has drained me

I wouldn't never let anyone other character in ever

Everywhere I go online

Dany is talked about, people saying she should die


My Dany

Jon Is not mad. In Varys' voice "any time a targaryan is born a coin is flipped, I don't know where hers (dany) has landed but I know where yours (Jon) has landed. I hope this explains why I won't call Jon mad.
Not all Targaryans end up mad afterall(Maester Aemon is a good example) The coin in Varys' parable signifies "chance/probability".

The mad King wasn't born mad. He had a break out in the later years of his reign. Dany has had her own breakout.

afolwalex20:


Sorry, bro, you are wrong!
You can't hate something and be good in it. The only character that can pass for this is Sam Tarley, not Jon. [b]Was there any scene that supports your notion[\b]?

Right from the very beginning, he loved fighting. He made Arya her first sword, remember? He actually wanted her to be a fighter, too. If he hated it, he wouldn't encourage any other person to do it. Also, this same Jon was pissed when he wasn't made a fighter in the Night's watch. He loved training other fighters there. Avoiding fights once in a while and being honorable doesn't prove he hates fighting.

YES! Do you even watch any of the character explanations given by the directors at the end of each episode of season 8? Perhaps, you know better than them.

Because Jon fought at the battle of the bastards, fought at the wall and some other fights doesn't mean he loves fighting. He fought the fights because there wasn't any other option. Just because you are good with a gun doesn't imply you must like shedding blood.

N.B: Sam Tarly isn't even close at passing the description. He is a coward and has poor swordsmanship.

JhyMedex:

Bruh believe me..He shldnt b walking around d way he did after doz two stabs (1st: btw d left ribs. 2nd: lateral abdominal wall) ...

infact the 1st one alone shld av killed him..Prolly give him a pneumohemothorax...The 2nd one may hit d abdominal aorta or sumoda major artery..

Remember still ,the knife was pulled out on both occasions which jst worsens his prognosis...

Bottomline: in d real world dude shldnt av bn able to get up .let alone kill euron n go on to walk to d red keep to meet cersie ...

Game of Thrones is a fantasy. Its not based on real life law of physics or human anatomy. There are no white walkers in real life

Seun:

I hate the fact that "madness" was used as an excuse to make her act in a way that was at odds with how she had been growing as a person.

Dany was my favorite character in season 1, and the Dany of Season 8 was the best Dany ever. Most forgiving, brave, friendly, etc. It's too bad.

I always knew she was going to do something as silly as this right after she stood emotionless watching on as her brother got inflamed.

arantess:

Just saw that scene again, you are right but eventually they went to KL together

They arrived KL together but Greyworm took the lead,leaving Jon in the shadows as usual. Jon was meant to lead the charge. D& has emasculated Jon's character this season. Compare the Jon of Battle of the Bastards and this Jon who keeps repeating 'She is my Queen' like a broken record.

Aystarz:



Greyworm ehn That niccur has some real issues. Torgo's silly pettiness, I believe, took root during Jon's first meeting with Dany at Dragonstone. That meeting, you'll remember, didn't end well for both parties, with Jon being a tad-bit insolent towards the Queen (even as much as figuratively calling her a child) and refusing to bend the knee in the end. As a loyal servant of Dany, one can forgive Greyworm for perceiving Jon as a pompous entitled twa.t who thinks himself a rival to the Unsullied captain's queen.
That guy's loyalty na like a zombie's. E no dey hear go come.

You have a point. He showed the same distrust and restraint when Tyrion was left in charge of affairs in Meereen,after Dany flew away with Drogon in season 5. However,his beef with Jon feels different. Seems personal. I may be wrong anyway

GloryIsaac:


You saw the look on Jon's face when things went haywire, right? And you obviously know that he isn't new to the battlefield. So why was he surprised? Why should an experienced soldier like him be surprised?

The reason is because in war, when your opponent surrenders, you halt the attack. They have already surrendered, so why are you still attacking them? Even Ser Davos was surprised, another fighter.

There are levels to madness, and the Dothraki raiders are at the top of the chain bar the Mad Queen.

Jon has never been in that position ..... in Dany,s shoes ..
After Cersei killed her Dragon, behead Missandei... Betrayed by Vary and Tyrion....
Just imagine it was Arya and Sansa... Cersei beheaded.....
U will definitely see the brutal side of Jon Snow ...
Did you see how Ser Davos still want to behead Melisandre...
Even after she played a major role in the Long Night fight..... No forgiveness
Did you see the mean look from Greyworm.....
Dany aint mad at all ...she did what is neccessary !!!!!

IamD18:

Go bless you Bruv. Tbh, the kind of disgusting comments I'm reading from these pussay asss hypocritical Danny's supporter are just too irritating.

Like Wtf? These people no get sense?

Damn!!! This show sure explains the kind of atrocities most folks herein can commit just to achieve something.

How can a reasonable person support Danny for burning and frying innocent people of KL just because Jon refused to fvck her?

Tufiakwa!!!

reasonable in which era oga? Before the UN and the bills of Human Rights and international codes of conduct, humanity has been waging wars, committing genocide and other atrocities since Cain and Abel and to them it was all reasonable, so i ask you again, "reasonable in what era" ? After you answer the question, ask yourself what fictional era the show is set in again then advise yourself again on the reasonableness of Danny's atrocities in kingslanding in that era

mandysmum:
Nope. The distrust started way before this incident. In the scene where Dany,Jon, Tyrion and others were planning the battle strategies at Winterfell, just before leaving for Kings landing, Greyworm acted really weird. Tyrion had just said Jon and Ser Davis will go by road,with the remaining northmen, Dothraki and Unsullied. As he was speaking,Jon gathered the corresponding stones to him on the battle map. Greyworm walked to Jon and removed the stone for the Unsullied and placed it back with his Queen. Jon looked at him oddly at that moment. That was the moment I noticed a hidden beef from Greyworm.

Jon hadn't even told his sisters at this point, so Tyrion had no clue of Jon's true parentage. Missandei was also alive. So what was Greyworm's problem then?

you got everything muddled up, greyworm removed the unsullied stones to signify that half of the unsullied are dead, Jon and Royce also removed half each of their armies, what that scene basically says was that half of the people that fought against the dead died.

afolwalex20:


Sorry, bro, you are wrong!
You can't hate something and be good in it. The only character that can pass for this is Sam Tarley, not Jon. Was there any scene that supports your notion?

Right from the very beginning, he loved fighting. He made Arya her first sword, remember? He actually wanted her to be a fighter, too. If he hated it, he wouldn't encourage any other person to do it. Also, this same Jon was pissed when he wasn't made a fighter in the Night's watch. He loved training other fighters there. Avoiding fights once in a while and being honorable doesn't prove he hates fighting.

go back to Jon's second conversation with Danny at dragonstone last season, Danny was saying referring to tyrion's love of talking, everybody loves and enjoys doing the things they're good at to which Jon replied, I don't

afolwalex20:


Sorry, bro, you are wrong!
You can't hate something and be good in it. The only character that can pass for this is Sam Tarley, not Jon. Was there any scene that supports your notion?

Right from the very beginning, he loved fighting. He made Arya her first sword, remember? He actually wanted her to be a fighter, too. If he hated it, he wouldn't encourage any other person to do it. Also, this same Jon was pissed when he wasn't made a fighter in the Night's watch. He loved training other fighters there. Avoiding fights once in a while and being honorable doesn't prove he hates fighting.

last season jon clearly told dany he hates what he is good at, which is fighting.

kenturkish:

you got everything muddled up, greyworm removed the unsullied stones to signify that half of the unsullied are dead, Jon and Royce also removed half each of their armies, what that scene basically says was that half of the people that fought against the dead died.

Please go back and watch that scene again. Right after Sansa 'challenged' Dany and Jon reiterated the northern support to Dany.

Willie2015:


Jon has never been in that position ..... in Dany,s shoes ..
After Cersei killed her Dragon, behead Missandei... Betrayed by Vary and Tyrion....
Just imagine it was Arya and Sansa... Cersei beheaded.....
U will definitely see the brutal side of Jon Snow ...
Did you see how Ser Davos still want to behead Melisandre...
Even after she played a major role in the Long Night fight..... No forgiveness
Did you see the mean look from Greyworm.....
Dany aint mad at all ...she did what is neccessary !!!!!

In all honesty, i had always known that Dany was going to turn mad, the excuse of doing what is necessary doesn't cut it. Thankfully, the show writers proved me right. I have my reasons....

1. Ever since those dragons matured, Dany has been burning people everywhere. At first, it seemed like she was the savior of the world, so a lot of fans didn't pick the clues that the writers were dropping. The burning of Sam's father and brother was a very strong message about a potential Mad Queen.

2. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Dany was hellbent on ruling the seven kingdoms at any cost, which is why Varys was bothered about her state of mind. Remember that Varys served under the Mad King, and a lot of others after him, so he clearly saw similar traits between father and daughter. Jon's refusal to be King made Varys even support him the more.

3. Dany rarely made decisions herself, which made me believe she wasn't worthy of being queen. She was excellent at saying 'Dracarys', but when it came to the major decisions that didn't have anything to do with execution....there was Ser Jorah - King of the Friendzone -, Tyrion Lannister, Jon Snow, Missandei, Lord Varys.

4. It wasn't necessary to burn down Kings Landing with all the innocents in it, but she made up her mind to do so because they didn't love her and to spite Cersei. Isn't that madness?, the children on the streets had absolutely nothing to do with the power tussle.

5. When she told Jon to hide his true identity, it was clear that insanity was already rising in her. She was desperate to rule the seven kingdoms and was going to do it at any cost.

"I spent my life in foreign lands. So many men have tried to kill me, I don't remember all their names. I have been sold like a broodmare. I've been chained and betrayed, raped and defiled. Do you know what kept me standing through all those years in exile? Faith. Not in any gods. Not in myths and legends. In myself. In Daenerys Targaryen. The world hadn't seen a dragon in centuries until my children were born. The Dothraki hadn't crossed the sea. Any sea. They did for me. I was born to rule the Seven Kingdoms, and I will." - The Mad Queen (To Jon Snow)

mandysmum:
You have a point. He showed the same distrust and restraint when Tyrion was left in charge of affairs in Meereen,after Dany flew away with Drogon in season 5. However,his beef with Jon feels different. Seems personal. I may be wrong anyway

I guess we'll find out soon enough.

Cybertext:
Unpopular opinion:


Some fans wanted the NK to reach kings landing so that cersie will feel winter small ...


Dany brought the heat to kings landing instead (people are now complaining)

I was pained and disappointed with how the Night King's story ended. I really wanted to know how things would go if the Night King ever got to Kings Landing, and deal with that zombie Mountain.

GloryIsaac:


I was pained and disappointed with how the Night King's story ended. I really wanted to know how things would go if the Night King ever got to Kings Landing, and deal with that zombie Mountain.

What if the night kings story hasn't really ended?