SupremeCourt:


Get first point, nobody here said Algeria will attack Nigeria. Get that point clear dont twist my words.

Second, Algeria is not 1,000 km away its 550 km from Nigeria at shortest point border to border. I used accurate google distance calculator.

Population does not mean we cannot be defeated, are the 200 million people all soldiers and all armed for war? Israel with population of 3 million defeated combined Arab nations of 100 million and pursued fleeing Egyptian army almost into Cairo. When a stronger country beats you properly you will run, all your population will run to do refugee across border. Did millions of Nigerian not flee to Chad, Cameroon, Niger when Boko Haram pushed out our army? Why is big population not making Boko Haram to stop attacking us in Borno?

What I said is, no wise country will have Nigeria's money $50 billion forex reserve, and be armed with 43 old 1982 t-72 tanks that have been confirmed by NA to fire twice and gun jam stoppage, till enemy enters our base to blow up our tank.

Nigeria should not sleep at ease with 43 useless half expired t-72 tanks 1970s technology and watch Algerian army loaded with some 400 t-62, 400 t-72, 500 t-90, 300 bmpterminator, 10,000 guided anti-tank missiles, iskander ballistic missiles, s-300 sam, bm-smerch, buratino flame-thrower, 1,000, fauchs afv, 1,000 btr and bmp ifvs all with missiles, now German puma ifv, all 550km away from our border.

I decide to leave Algeria's 50 su-30 flankers with some 2,000 missiles and guided bombs out of the discussion, I want the fools to forget that it's there and talk foolish

I said what if they decide in future to attack Nigeria (leave the reason to justify war, Yemen never imagined UAE will invade them today). We are just being human to say we cannot tell the future, so are we prepared to defend against Algeria?

Today Algerian constitution that says no foreign military adventure, but it was not in the law until after some years that they made the law, but what if they change that law in 5 years time?

During Nigerian civil war 1967, one side looked like 100% Christian but the other side was like 50% Christian ~50% Muslim. Algeria took sides and sent us squadron of Algerian air force fighter jets to Muslim side of Nigeria against the fully Christian side, I don't know if Algeria gave us pilots, but we had North African Arab pilots flying those Algerian intervention jets, people said the pilots were Egyptian but Algerian look like Egyptians. There is record of Algerian military heavy weapons being sent by Algeria into Nigeria in a war to kill Nigerians/Biafrans. All the fools here saying Algerian massive weapons stock being used against Nigeria is imaginary impossible nonsense idea, those Nigerian fools that don't read to know Nigerian history in detail, they are the real stupid ones here.

Algerians are nowadays uprising on the streets demonstrating against their government, looks on TV like millions in number, of angry educated adults trooped out, who forced Algerian president out of power just weeks ago!

Algerians are now calling for a change of military doctrine, that is what I read days ago that made me say Nigeria should not sleep while this strange Algeria grows very very powerful just 4 hours away from our border 550km away!

Here is the call for new Algerian military doctrine, what if a new government adopts the change below in 5 years time?

"Algeria’s defense doctrine is outdated — better suited to a Cold War-era security environment than to meeting the security challenges the country faces in the early 21st century, it is imperative that Algeria proceed to update its defense doctrine."

https://www.mei.edu/publications/updating-algerias-military-doctrine

The fools liking your comment do not read wide, not many people are smart in Nigeria, most have more mouth than brain, many are too lazy to read wide.

Also the web link says Algeria has broken the rule of no military force abroad many times, and its a NATO international seminar of experts paper I quoted above, I believe them more than you.

"Second problem is continuation of formal adherence to principle of non-intervention when, in practice, it has been breached. There are numerous instances of Algerian military intervention, as when Houari Boumedienne sent troops to Egypt to defend Nasser regime in 1967 and again in 1973. Algerian troops helped to protect West Saharans who fled advancing Moroccan troops in Western Sahara in 1975-1976. Algerian troops have intervened in Tunisia since 2011, with the full agreement of Tunisian political and military leaders, in an effort to combat radical Islamic groups. Algerian troops also intervened in Mali and Libya to protect Algeria’s borders. Algerian forces directly intervened in Libya, awash with weapons since the fall of the Gaddafi regime, following a terrorist attack on the gas field of Tigentourine at In Amenas."

Common sense is not common, especially in this part of the world, just saying our country should be proactive, you will see 20 people shouting no need, that problems will never reach our side! You be God to predict the years coming ahead? Only a fool assumes the future will always bring peace.

SupremeCourt:


Get first point, nobody here said Algeria will attack Nigeria. Get that point clear dont twist my words.

Second, Algeria is not 1,000 km away its 550 km from Nigeria at shortest point border to border. I used accurate google distance calculator.

Population does not mean we cannot be defeated, are the 200 million people all soldiers and all armed for war? Israel with population of 3 million defeated combined Arab nations of 100 million and pursued fleeing Egyptian army almost into Cairo. When a stronger country beats you properly you will run, all your population will run to do refugee across border. Did millions of Nigerian not flee to Chad, Cameroon, Niger when Boko Haram pushed out our army? Why is big population not making Boko Haram to stop attacking us in Borno?

What I said is, no wise country will have Nigeria's money $50 billion forex reserve, and be armed with 43 old 1982 t-72 tanks that have been confirmed by NA to fire twice and gun jam stoppage, till enemy enters our base to blow up our tank.

Nigeria should not sleep at ease with 43 useless half expired t-72 tanks 1970s technology and watch Algerian army loaded with some 400 t-62, 400 t-72, 500 t-90, 300 bmpterminator, 10,000 guided anti-tank missiles, iskander ballistic missiles, s-300 sam, bm-smerch, buratino flame-thrower, 1,000, fauchs afv, 1,000 btr and bmp ifvs all with missiles, now German puma ifv, all 550km away from our border.

I decide to leave Algeria's 50 su-30 flankers with some 2,000 missiles and guided bombs out of the discussion, I want the fools to forget that it's there and talk foolish

I said what if they decide in future to attack Nigeria (leave the reason to justify war, Yemen never imagined UAE will invade them today). We are just being human to say we cannot tell the future, so are we prepared to defend against Algeria?

Today Algerian constitution that says no foreign military adventure, but it was not in the law until after some years that they made the law, but what if they change that law in 5 years time?

During Nigerian civil war 1967, one side looked like 100% Christian but the other side was like 50% Christian ~50% Muslim. Algeria took sides and sent us squadron of Algerian air force fighter jets to Muslim side of Nigeria against the fully Christian side, I don't know if Algeria gave us pilots, but we had North African Arab pilots flying those Algerian intervention jets, people said the pilots were Egyptian but Algerian look like Egyptians. There is record of Algerian military heavy weapons being sent by Algeria into Nigeria in a war to kill Nigerians/Biafrans. All the fools here saying Algerian massive weapons stock being used against Nigeria is imaginary impossible nonsense idea, those Nigerian fools that don't read to know Nigerian history in detail, they are the real stupid ones here.

Algerians are nowadays uprising on the streets demonstrating against their government, looks on TV like millions in number, of angry educated adults trooped out, who forced Algerian president out of power just weeks ago!

Algerians are now calling for a change of military doctrine, that is what I read days ago that made me say Nigeria should not sleep while this strange Algeria grows very very powerful just 4 hours away from our border 550km away!

Here is the call for new Algerian military doctrine, what if a new government adopts the change below in 5 years time?

"Algeria’s defense doctrine is outdated — better suited to a Cold War-era security environment than to meeting the security challenges the country faces in the early 21st century, it is imperative that Algeria proceed to update its defense doctrine."

https://www.mei.edu/publications/updating-algerias-military-doctrine

The fools liking your comment do not read wide, not many people are smart in Nigeria, most have more mouth than brain, many are too lazy to read wide.

Also the web link says Algeria has broken the rule of no military force abroad many times, and its a NATO international seminar of experts paper I quoted above, I believe them more than you.

"Second problem is continuation of formal adherence to principle of non-intervention when, in practice, it has been breached. There are numerous instances of Algerian military intervention, as when Houari Boumedienne sent troops to Egypt to defend Nasser regime in 1967 and again in 1973. Algerian troops helped to protect West Saharans who fled advancing Moroccan troops in Western Sahara in 1975-1976. Algerian troops have intervened in Tunisia since 2011, with the full agreement of Tunisian political and military leaders, in an effort to combat radical Islamic groups. Algerian troops also intervened in Mali and Libya to protect Algeria’s borders. Algerian forces directly intervened in Libya, awash with weapons since the fall of the Gaddafi regime, following a terrorist attack on the gas field of Tigentourine at In Amenas."

Common sense is not common, especially in this part of the world, just saying our country should be proactive, you will see 20 people shouting no need, that problems will never reach our side! You be God to predict the years coming ahead? Only a fool assumes the future will always bring peace.

kikuyu1:


Not enough of you guys have looked at[b] costing![/b] Any weapons system has a buying cost and an operational cost incl maintenance. Eg,The Archer,a high end arty system has a buy cost of 12 mn$ and annual upkeep of 0.6mn$. Bottom line what's your budget? In 2018 you spent 1.9bn$,an increase from 1.6 bn$ previously for 100k in the triservices-all acquisitions of systems,ordanance,ammo etc.etc,operations,.training,pay and welfare come from, this amount.
Its an enormous ask ! The KDOD had a billion dollars in 2017 for our own 30k triservices. I understand the financial situation your brass faces and wonder[b]-how many of you do?[/b]

SupremeCourt:


Thanks, I see your valid point, but we Nigerians know our country. Let me inform you, we pay our military extra-budgetary funds specially for weapons procurement or we give them equipment transfer. Navy gets many gunboats from NIMASA and cash from NNPC, foreign oil companies too. Navy gets big ships frigate size as gift from USA and China gives large boats. Navy got 300 new gunboats free NNPC donation in 2006-2008 to fight Niger Delta militants.. Air force got many free helicopters from NIMASA and NNPC. Army gets cash and gifts of food and other civilian materials supply from states, local govts. Army also gets cash from CBN extra. Army also gets donation of weapons from USA, UK, Italy, Germany, Spain, Holland, etc.

NNPC is government oil company. CBN is government bank.

So all these are extra hardware even advanced radars our army got from Germany, and heavy mortars from Britain, MRAPs from USA. Germany also gave army like 3 or so Gazelle helicopters armed. So many donations of hardware and material supplies they get free.

On top of that we gave them extra $2 billion for weapons alone in 2014. Then 2015 getting to power Buhari released emergency fund $500 million or so to military for urgent equipment purchase. We gave air force special deposit over $300 million for super tucano.

Now they want another $1 billion for weapons and the senate complained that the $2 billion extra cash of 2014 the military as not yet explained how it was spent before asking for another billion dollars.

An army general went on TV to show one tavor rifle as sample of why they need $1 billion for a rifle we already bought in thousands and added like 15,000 Beryl rifles on top, so why tavor again? He said plus other things, what other things? Senate got no clear detailed list of what army will buy with this billion dollars, so the money is delayed as we hear, I dont know how far.

The army has no strategic plan for modernization or improvement, they just want the cash in billions and in dollars! Now are we mad to keep paying them like we dont have common sense?

I agree with you archer can cost millions but we dont need artillery we have much already, we need good tanks and army has no plan for tanks, they are busy opening vehicle manufacturing plant to export armoured vehicles all over Africa in 2030, which army is into that huge business in this world?

The $2 billion of 2014, they bought 43 t-72 second hand near expired with jamming gun that breaks down in combat, those tanks value is $80 million out of two billion, so what of the remaining $1.92 billion? They should have bought 100 new t-90 for $400 million and we still have change aplenty, and new tanks will not jam like old cargo. They bought no bmp ifv as some people say we need ifv here daily complaining.

Now in addition to all the above, government annual defence budget cashed out to military capital expenditure average per year $500 million per year in addition to all the free materials, weapons, and extra cash.

So 2000 to 2019, our normal cash budget for only weapons procurement estimates at $10 billion !!!

Please show me weapons Nigerian military bought for $10 billion in 2000 to 2019 That is more than half of the $15 billion Algeria spent on weapons only from 2006 to 2019. Why is the gap in available weapons so wide a margin between Nigeria and Algeria, that is the BODMAS mathematics that we need our military to explain to us with proof.

blacKDalia:
You keep saying Nigerians this, Nigerians that, thank God you are the only intelligent Nigerian on this thread. I think we would have to advice the C-in-C to appoint you as the new army chief. I bet in 45 minutes BH will be decimated, or would you invite Algeria? I would have loved to reply you with further analysis but like a typical Nigerian nairalander you have resorted to insults.Hold on to your assumptions and enjoy them as much as you want. On a thought I don't see any reason for this discussion. Meanwhile enjoy your stay here.

bidexiii:
EGYPTIAN ELITE FORCES WITH SIG-552 WITH SPECIAL BINOCULARS

SupremeCourt:


Why are you challenging him? I have been called weed smoker, stupiid felow, senseless man here many times in unprovoked attacks by people I have no prior issues with, I never saw you challenge them for insulting me without cause. You see, that spirit of selective 'justice' and padi padi that you people do here, is a symbol of the rottenness of Nigeria as a whole, same thing your leaders use to wreck your lives and cheat you.

You, I pity those who agree with you to mess up Nigerian social media, they dont check your profile to see that you have run away overseas when the mess of Nigeria tire you. You dare not in in your America or whatever place go on an American forum in Oyinbo land and tell somebody to stop commenting on a discuss you dont like, they will flush your black azz out of their forums for challenging freedom of speech.

What you cannot do in America, you come here many times and do it, and make Nigeria an insane society, and some fools here support you blindly while you mess up where they live but you enjoy freedom of speech in USA where you live. Shame on you bro.

BabaOwen:
The Chief of Army Staff, Lt. Gen. Tukur Yusuf Buratai on Wednessday said the army has strong evidence against politicians sponsoring bandits, kidnapping and other forms of criminality in the country.

Lt. Gen. Buratai stated this while receiving the Chairman House Committe on the Army after visiting Maimanlari cementary to honor fallen heros in Maiduguri on Wednessday.

He said: ''The myraid of security challenges we are facing right now in the northwest, north central and other parts of the country, I want to believe and rightly so that it is a fallout of the just concluded general election.

"There are political class intrests, politicians in particular who saw their defeats as a way of trying to revenge, sponsoring these criminal activities even the bandits, the farmers and herders.

"There are strong political undertones and strong political influnces including (in these) kidnappings.

"We use this opportunity to call on the chairman house committee on army to prevail on some of these politicains, to really look at national intrest first, before any political or sectional intrest.

"We have some strong evidence but we are still being conscious so that we don't get it wrong but the best is to advice these politicians.

"The threat by boko haram is quite real, they have been dealt with but they are still much around. In terms of their various soft target attacks on some military locations, right now Boko haram terrorists are on the run but because of the resilient nature of terrorism they are always trying to score points to shows that they are much around."

http://saharareporters.com/2019/05/15/defeated-politicians-2019-elections-sponsoring-bandits-herdsmen-revenge-says-buratai

Sizzorkay:
But we can solve this once and for all, let's just rob Algeria, I mean, we already have an inside man, here on nairaland
People gotta learn to have debates without raising their blood pressure lol, it ain't that complicated. I come here to have fun with my brethren, not get into drama, i don't do crazy.
Ferrari is faster than Lamborghini...... "No it's not, you idiot".
See, that's not how to have a conversation. It's mad childish.
If you think one country is more powerful than another, lay down your case, others will lay down theirs and you compare and contrast lol, why pop a vein over that? Not like na my papa be the President. Sheet
Now moving on.

Iblawi1:
Nigeria to Algeria is 550km away? Seriously, wondering if some people attended geography class.

SupremeCourt:


4[b]. Your fatty blood boiled so much yesterday you had to delete the comment of @Zoharariel who wrote a powerful comments that Algeria with wipe out Nigeria with bi-annual rockets. Your American Yahoo 419 life fraudulently deleted a comment you cannot defeat in a debate.[/b]

5. Confirmed - the only high pressure exploding bloody veins here are those in your own obese fat body my brother Kikikikikikkikkik

BabaOwen:
The Chief of Army Staff, Lt. Gen. Tukur Yusuf Buratai on Wednessday said the army has strong evidence against politicians sponsoring bandits, kidnapping and other forms of criminality in the country.

Lt. Gen. Buratai stated this while receiving the Chairman House Committe on the Army after visiting Maimanlari cementary to honor fallen heros in Maiduguri on Wednessday.

He said: ''The myraid of security challenges we are facing right now in the northwest, north central and other parts of the country, I want to believe and rightly so that it is a fallout of the just concluded general election.

"There are political class intrests, politicians in particular who saw their defeats as a way of trying to revenge, sponsoring these criminal activities even the bandits, the farmers and herders.

"There are strong political undertones and strong political influnces including (in these) kidnappings.

"We use this opportunity to call on the chairman house committee on army to prevail on some of these politicains, to really look at national intrest first, before any political or sectional intrest.

"We have some strong evidence but we are still being conscious so that we don't get it wrong but the best is to advice these politicians.

"The threat by boko haram is quite real, they have been dealt with but they are still much around. In terms of their various soft target attacks on some military locations, right now Boko haram terrorists are on the run but because of the resilient nature of terrorism they are always trying to score points to shows that they are much around."

http://saharareporters.com/2019/05/15/defeated-politicians-2019-elections-sponsoring-bandits-herdsmen-revenge-says-buratai

Sizzorkay:
So now I'm a thief? This guy truly have mental problem, i deleted someone's comment? Where did that happen? Who is @zoharriel? Because last i checked, the only forum i go to is here, i don't have twitter, Instagram or even facebook accounts.
See your life, calling me 419, you stooped that low? that's sad kid. If your parents raised you well, you will know to never accuse someone you don't know of such, that's truly insane of you to call me that.
I mean, convo went from military matters to you calling me a thief? damn. I feel sorry for the lady who bore you.

SupremeCourt:


See you pouring river of saliva on your laptop, I said it, you are the Obese one with boiling blood high B.P. I am cool calm kikkikki

I caught you red handed deleting @zoharriels comment that agreed with me, so I called you 419 because you did fraud, to delete a powerful comment that agreed with me, so it could be only me saying what I say, that's unfair like Yahoo scam, see your dressing in your profile photo, real hussler looks, not clean type.

You don't insult people? You do, using words like "I pity the lady that bore you" in this your comment you insulted my mother stylishly, that's how you do it and claim Holy Pope

I am a tough lawyer, I don't need crowd, I am trained stand alone to prove 100 people wrong with evidence.

2017 I was the only one who said Nigeria's tokunbo t-72 tanks are falling apart and BHT will soon find anti-tank to blow it up so NA needs t-90 soonest, but all of you here ganged up against me saying no, NA t-72 tanks are good, SupremeCourt is wrong, idiott, stupiid, he has no military knowledge, professional soldier Captain Stephen said our t-72 are good he is posting comment from inside t-72 now!

2018 my prediction turned your crowd of 20 to the biggest fools on Nairaland, Boko Haram anti-tank blew up our t-72 in Metele, exactly as I predicted, our tokunbo tank was beheaded with it's own cook off ammo, then Metele soldiers posted YouTube video confirming all I said to be 100% accurate, Nigerian t-72 gun only fires only twice then jam with stoppage, reason Boko Haram killed some 150 soldiers in Metele, destroyed mrap, innoson truck, looted base, and probably got our 40 barrel rockets later fired on Maiduguri. How I wish 'professional' soldier Captain Stephen was inside t-72 tank at Metele when Boko Haram visited base with anti-tank

That's how bad it gets for a country where people always lie to themselves, insincerity, hatred of truth and the truth teller, padi padi life joining liars to continue filling forum with lies. A good lawyer is conscience of society. I stand always where I see it is right to stand, 20 people disagree, I don't care

SupremeCourt:


See you pouring river of saliva on your laptop, I said it, you are the Obese one with boiling blood high B.P. I am cool calm kikkikki

I caught you red handed deleting @zoharriels comment that agreed with me, so I called you 419 because you did fraud, to delete a powerful comment that agreed with me, so it could be only me saying what I say, that's unfair like Yahoo scam, see your dressing in your profile photo, real hussler looks, not clean type.

You don't insult people? You do, using words like "I pity the lady that bore you" in this your comment you insulted my mother stylishly, that's how you do it and claim Holy Pope

I am a tough lawyer, I don't need crowd, I am trained stand alone to prove 100 people wrong with evidence.

2017 I was the only one who said Nigeria's tokunbo t-72 tanks are falling apart and BHT will soon find anti-tank to blow it up so NA needs t-90 soonest, but all of you here ganged up against me saying no, NA t-72 tanks are good, SupremeCourt is wrong, idiott, stupiid, he has no military knowledge, professional soldier Captain Stephen said our t-72 are good he is posting comment from inside t-72 now!

2018 my prediction turned your crowd of 20 to the biggest fools on Nairaland, Boko Haram anti-tank blew up our t-72 in Metele, exactly as I predicted, our tokunbo tank was beheaded with it's own cook off ammo, then Metele soldiers posted YouTube video confirming all I said to be 100% accurate, Nigerian t-72 gun only fires only twice then jam with stoppage, reason Boko Haram killed some 150 soldiers in Metele, destroyed mrap, innoson truck, looted base, and probably got our 40 barrel rockets later fired on Maiduguri. How I wish 'professional' soldier Captain Stephen was inside t-72 tank at Metele when Boko Haram visited base with anti-tank

That's how bad it gets for a country where people always lie to themselves, insincerity, hatred of truth and the truth teller, padi padi life joining liars to continue filling forum with lies. A good lawyer is conscience of society. I stand always where I see it is right to stand, 20 people disagree, I don't care