Romantism for united fans.
Ferguson had no competition in the 90s, united where the rich bullies in the league, Ferguson never had to built a new team, continuing a dynasty where everything is built to your vision is easier compared to jumping in to a new club and winning every 3 years.

raumdeuter:
aside man utd

Which cl finalist did man utd beat ti the league

If United hadn't stopped Arsenal, they would have been in the final. United won the league that year and got to the final. We didn't hear any nonsense of "Competing against UEFA finalists " because baba was ready for the English team that stood on his way to the final. But Pep, we're hearing nonsense.

Melvyn11:
Romantism for united fans.
Ferguson had no competition in the 90s, united where the rich bullies in the league, Ferguson never had to built a new team, continuing a dynasty where everything is built to your vision is easier compared to jumping in to a new club and winning every 3 years.

It's not easier. Coaches know how difficult it is to maintain the Hunger. In a new club, everyone is excited and wants to impress

It's easy to rebuild when an entire club structure is bulit around a manager. The only reason United is struggling now is because the entire club was built around Ferguson. I would have love to see Ferguson leave United and start fresh in a new club where he has won nothing and the club is not built around him in this modern era.

eph12:

It's not easier. Coaches know how difficult it is to maintain the Hunger. In a new club, everyone is excited and wants to impress

It's way easier Being in a club where you are practically a living legend. Ferguson could literally go 3 seasons trophyless rebuilding the team and United won't dare sack him. He should try it at Barca or Madrid and see the outcome.

Pep Guardiola - Brain at work




Just formed this

I am almost certain that if City had reached the finals, Pep fan boys will be here in their numbers saying the performance of EPL teams should be credited to Pep and that the league is the best. I just wanted Dayo to say it that the league is best then I would have asked what role Pep played...
Poch, Klopp, Sarri and Emery have made the league proud, they raised their game in Europe, a shame Pep can't stand up and be counted when it matters most...

Imagine Raumdeuter saying you can say a certain league is the best in the world until they do it over a couple of years but we have seen the likes of Kaka have one very exceptional season and we're crowned best player in the world, fluke, no?

Melvyn11:

It's way easier Being in a club where you are practically a living legend. Ferguson could literally go 3 seasons trophyless rebuilding the team and United won't dare sack him. He should try it at Barca or Madrid and see the outcome.

So your Pep can't stay one place and become a legend there so that he can go 3 seasons trophyless? Small thing that Mourinho did, he ran out of Spain

patrickmuf:
The one reason why I think Ferguson is the greatest manager is the fact that he coached teams who reached the peak of their powers, faded out and from the scratch he rebuilt again and took them to the peak. You wonder why Pep, Mou and Klopp don't continue on their job after winning the UCL? They know how difficult it is to maintain that level especially when the key cog of the team is past it. Look at Zidane at Madrid, after the Era of dominance, he is struggling with almost the same team he used to win the UCL 3 times in a row because Ronaldo isn't there and the rest are aging fast.
Fergie oversaw different greats sides over the course of his reign, something I don't see Pep, Mou or any of the other modern coaches doing.

it's easier to constantly rebuild the team you have managed for 20+ year and having the club structure built around You like Ferguson had at United and now pep at City. Pep just 3yrs already at a club built around him has already destroyed the Epl and set unprecedented records.

Melvyn11:

It's way easier Being in a club where you are practically a living legend. Ferguson could literally go 3 seasons trophyless rebuilding the team and United won't dare sack him. He should try it at Barca or Madrid and see the outcome.

Before Fergie, how many EPL titles did Manchester United have? Were we a European power house? Fergie did it with Steve Bruce and Mark Hughes, he did it with Cantona, he did it with Cole and Yorke, he did it with Nistelrooy, Becks and Giggs, he did it with Rooney, Ronaldo and Tevez, he did it with Van Persie. Building teams after teams whilst still being at the top level of the game. You think it's easy to motivate same group of players after doing so well previously or starting from the scratch when your best players move on or start aging?

eph12:

So your Pep can't stay one place and become a legend there so that he can go 3 seasons trophyless? Small thing that Mourinho did, he ran out of Spain

So you finally agreed it was easier for Ferguson at United. Good we are making progress.

Melvyn11:


it's easier to constantly rebuild the team you have managed for 20+ year and having the club structure built around You like Ferguson had at United and now pep at City. Pep just 3yrs already at a club built around him has already destroyed the Epl and set unprecedented records.

City were already a very well oiled Ma Hine before Pep came and he has since been supported with funds to get it right. Where was Manchester United before Fergie joined?
I don't even want to talk about what Fergie did with Aberdeen...

Still waiting for raumdeuter to explain how 1 season is not enough to say a league is dominating others but 1 season was enough to crown Salah as African best and at the same time say Pep dominated the league

eph12:
Still waiting for raumdeuter to explain how 1 season is not enough to say a league is dominating others but 1 season was enough to crown Salah as African best and at the same time say Pep dominated the league

God bless you bro...Maybe Modric shouldn't have been crowned with the Balon D'or as it's just a season of exceptional display...

Melvyn11:


So you finally agreed it was easier for Ferguson at United. Good we are making progress.

You think he just woke up and became a legend there? He could have left since way back to another club like Pep would have done. Why do you think he became a legend at Old Trafford?

patrickmuf:
God bless you bro...Maybe Modric should have been crowned with the Balon D'or as it's just a season of exceptional display...

If he had known that question was a trap, he would have ignored it

Melvyn11:
Romantism for united fans.
Ferguson had no competition in the 90s, united where the rich bullies in the league, Ferguson never had to built a new team, continuing a dynasty where everything is built to your vision is easier compared to jumping in to a new club and winning every 3 years.

Ignorance at its peak, bullied who? Blackburn? Newcastle? Please go and check how much those clubs splashed on players, Blackburn broke the English transfer record for Shearer but Fergie is the bully.

eph12:

If he had known that question was a trap, he would have ignored it

A carefully set trap...

patrickmuf:
Before Fergie, how many EPL titles did Manchester United have? Were we a European power house? Fergie did it with Steve Bruce and Mark Hughes, he did it with Cantona, he did it with Cole and Yorke, he did it with Nistelrooy, Becks and Giggs, he did it with Rooney, Ronaldo and Tevez, he did it with Van Persie. Building teams after teams whilst still being at the top level of the game. You think it's easy to motivate same group of players after doing so well previously or starting from the scratch when your best players move on or start aging?

Ferguson was a brilliant manager,No doubt or argument about that. But this rebuilding angle is pure bullshit. United has a club was built around Ferguson. He was literally In charge of everything. What difficulty did he encounter in rebuilding, Was he ever in danger of being sacked...never. Unlimited resources and a wonderful academy . He had all time and resources at his disposal. He could go seasons trophyless and nothing would have happened. He should try it in this modern era. He would have been sacked.

Melvyn11:

Ferguson was a brilliant manager,No doubt or argument about that. But this rebuilding angle is pure bullshit. United has a club was built around Ferguson. He was literally In charge of everything. What difficulty did he encounter in rebuilding, Was he ever in danger of being sacked...never. Unlimited resources and a wonderful academy . He had all time and resources at his disposal. He could go seasons trophyless and nothing would have happened. He should try it in this modern era. He would have been sacked.

It was not given to him, he earned it...

eph12:
Still waiting for raumdeuter to explain how 1 season is not enough to say a league is dominating others but 1 season was enough to crown Salah as African best and at the same time say Pep dominated the league

raumdeuter

We are waiting...




Salah, best african player to ever play in epl cos he broke epl goal scoring in one season.

Epl dominating europe because it did what any european league has never done before this season.

It is safe to also say, epl is the best league to ever participate in european competitions.



Sounds about right!

eph12:

You think he just woke up and became a legend there? He could have left since way back to another club like Pep would have done. Why do you think he became a legend at Old Trafford?

Did Ferguson start winning immediately he came to united? Nah Ferguson could never had left united. He was a Coward who was scared to leave his comfort soon and try other challenges.

Melvyn11:

Ferguson was a brilliant manager,No doubt or argument about that. But this rebuilding angle is pure bullshit. United has a club was built around Ferguson. He was literally In charge of everything. What difficulty did he encounter in rebuilding, Was he ever in danger of being sacked...never. Unlimited resources and a wonderful academy . He had all time and resources at his disposal. He could go seasons trophyless and nothing would have happened. He should try it in this modern era. He would have been sacked.

Fergie that almost lost the job just a couple of years after he joined the club if not for the FA cup win? Lol

popizaino:


Do I need to remind you how muller's penalty miss cost him another ucl finals with bayern?

no. You need to remind me how cr7 penalty missed cost Mourinho of ucl final at Madrid.


Blame the players and leave the coach when it suits you

patrickmuf:
Ignorance at its peak, bullied who? Blackburn? Newcastle? Please go and check how much those clubs splashed on players, Blackburn broke the English transfer record for Shearer but Fergie is the bully.

Bwhahaha and how many transfer records did Ferguson break during his tenure at United? How many seasons did Blackburn and Newcastle dominate?

Melvyn11:

Did Ferguson start winning immediately he came to united? Nah Ferguson could never had left united. He was a Coward who was scared to leave his comfort soon and try other challenges.

The things we get to read on here...Please do a brief research before coming out to say some stuffs, check what Fergie did with Aberdeen before joining United, he is a legend there you know and at a young age or were Aberdeen the biggest club in Scotland? Check what he did in Europe with Aberdeen then come back here and tender an apology.

Melvyn11:

Bwhahaha and how many transfer records did Ferguson break during his tenure at United? How many seasons did Blackburn and Newcastle dominate?

At least I have shown you he wasn't bullying the other teams as you wrote in your post.

eph12:

Fergie that almost lost the job just a couple of years after he joined the club if not for the FA cup win? Lol

No am not taking about when he was trophyless with United then he had not accomplished anything. Talking about from 1990s to 2010 when Ferguson was already the main man,was he ever at risk of being sacked at United?

Amoto94:
In the past 3 seasons the net spend of Mancity is not something to be proud of

chelsea fans, take a look at our net spend when we were winning trophies with conte and compare to now.

airmark:


Just like Conte, they dreaded and achieved where Fraudiola wouldn't dare.

Ancelotti won CLs with 2 different teams, when will your Pep do this? Must he spend 1bn?

i think carlo has won with 3 different teams

patrickmuf:
Ignorance at its peak, bullied who? Blackburn? Newcastle? Please go and check how much those clubs splashed on players, Blackburn broke the English transfer record for Shearer but Fergie is the bully.

Your club man united broke the English transfer record on a single player Paul pogba and a teenager martial, Liverpool on the other hand, broke the record on a defender, my team Chelsea did that with a goalkeeper but let ignore all and make excuses for man united alone. #hypocrisyathisfinest

Melvyn11:

Did Ferguson start winning immediately he came to united? Nah Ferguson could never had left united. He was a Coward who was scared to leave his comfort soon and try other challenges.

Ferguson that lost his best player and still made champions league final after that? Pep left Messi and since then he has been struggling with life. He can't even make semi not to talk to final after spending billions. I mean who loses Ronaldo, that was steadily guaranteeing goals and recovers immediately with Anderson, Park, old man Giggs, Cleverly, old man Scholes, Chicha as core players lol