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Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by Daguccizgreat(m): 2:26pm On May 20, 2019 |
cyojunior1:You are naive for saying this. The US will finish off their whole army in 72 hours |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by lloyds(m): 2:44pm On May 20, 2019 |
Trump is a no nonsense lion. But he needs to explore all options before opting for war. |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by lloyds(m): 2:48pm On May 20, 2019 |
chineloSA: Russia is the only country that can fully stand the USA today in war terms. |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by HBB1(m): 2:56pm On May 20, 2019 |
Ibrahimmrfish: Oga, when did Hezbollah defeat Israel? What rubbish are you saying? If they had those capabilities, they would have destroyed Israel! All they do is transborder attacks and hiding behind the civilians when Israel attacks. In 2005/2006 Hezbollah kidnapped 2 Israeli soldiers... What happened? Israel crippled Lebanon, bombed them 2 smithereens just because if those 2 soldiers. Hezbollah?! Orishirishi! |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by HBB1(m): 3:00pm On May 20, 2019 |
PerfectlyPerfect: Have you fired a gun before? Arm-chair analysis. 1 Like |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by chineloSA(f): 3:03pm On May 20, 2019 |
lloyds: Exactly. Russia and China. Don't underestimate China. Both will not fold hands and look at Iran. America has not been able to deal with North Korea because of China and Russia. North Korea has a millitary agreement with China |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by adedehinbo(m): 3:05pm On May 20, 2019 |
Nukilia:joker,so you aren't aware of the fact that Iran has one of the best air defence and surface to earth missiles which could blow anything off the sky,war would be a loose loose for both countries but US should stop threatening other countries too. |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by HBB1(m): 3:06pm On May 20, 2019 |
Efewestern: Which battle? What are you saying Oga! A terrorist group that hides behind women and children won what? Shior! 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by HBB1(m): 3:09pm On May 20, 2019 |
CaptainMarvel: What better technologies did Japan have? Comparing the basic military hardware-- rifles and/or grenades showed the Japanese were inferior. Pear harbour was an attack to rule the Pacific. Did not mean they were superior... And it was a sucker punch. It you talk about the Germans, that's a different story. They were ahead of everybody |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by HBB1(m): 3:14pm On May 20, 2019 |
Socsed: There allies will not join anything. The worst that will happen is they supply hardware. The US doesn't want to fight Russia/or China and vice versa... It will be too expensive and their economies will collapse. Then another set of super powers will arise... Same way Russia and the US emerged after the second world war. So if any country will make them confront one another, na to abandon that country and look the other way. Russia attacked Ukraine and nothing happened, Obama looked the other way! 2 Likes |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by odigbosky(m): 3:14pm On May 20, 2019 |
Efewestern: Good analysis bro But I think even the Japanese had all of these with them and yet the US beat them in their own country. The war in Vietnam did not have full support, buy trust me if the Iranians attack the US first like the Japanese did in pearl harbour, that would be the end of the Islamic regime there. The US would burn her to the ground and no be mouth. |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by APOSTLECHUMA: 3:16pm On May 20, 2019 |
IT IS NOT AMERICA, IT IS ISRAEL,PUSHING AMERICA TO DO IT AND ISRAEL WILL NOT REST UNTIL THE NUCLEAR SITES IN IRAN ARE TURNED INTO RUBBLES. IF THEY FAIL IN GETTING TRUMP TO DO IT ,,ISRAEL WILL BE LEFT WITH NO OPTION THAN TO DIRECTLY HIT IRAN AS IRAN REMAINS THE GREATEST THREAT TO ISRAEL'S EXISTENCE BECAUSE THEY ARE CONSTANTLY CALLING FOR ISRAEL'S DESTRUCTION. 1 Like |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by hermesprogidy(m): 3:22pm On May 20, 2019 |
Spechialone:Trump is a certified idiot. Only an idiot thinks Trump is brilliant. Anyway, most Americans are idiots. |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by kings59: 3:24pm On May 20, 2019 |
Almunjid: You don't even know the difference between "to me" and "for me" To me is a preposition which means preference, relationship between one person and another. For me is a preposition which means opinion,in support or favour of ,benefit of. Your said about your opinion and not your preference. So use "for me" 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by odigbosky(m): 3:25pm On May 20, 2019 |
ScotMisile: God bless u for your analysis. I made a reference to the Japan factor. No fighters are as dogged as the Japanese. They started suicide bombing with their kamikaze stunts and the rest yet the US beat them. Anything that makes IRAN attack the US first then you will see the beast in what America is. The Japanese always felt America was a country that was more into enjoying her casinos and beaches until they attacked her. That was when they realized that they woke up a Godzilla 1 Like |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by PerfectlyPerfect(m): 3:28pm On May 20, 2019 |
HBB1:I've not fired a gun before, but I love international geopolitics and I keep abreast of things happening around me. People who make Wide-reaching decisions are usually not the the ones on ground, they send other people to carry out the actions. |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by Efewestern: 3:29pm On May 20, 2019 |
HBB1: Hezbollah is a resistant movement, secondly they didn't hide behind women and children during the 2006 war with Isreal, they fought face to face. I think you are confusing Hezbollah with Hamas or Isis. Hezbollah had locations, they fought from a well known but fortified positions, they guided each Lebanese village bordering Isreal, while evacuating women and children to safer positions. Even before shooting rockets at Isreal they sent text to Israelis telling them to live their homes. You just have to respect those guys, they were fearless, you can read more about them, even Isreali soldiers were marvelled at how those guys fought. 100 Hezbollah members might guide a village, you invading will think they are up to 1000 because of how well positioned they are. Hezbollah were brave, even in current war in Syria, they are performing wonders, they single handedly defeated some rebels in 2017 or so. 1 Like |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by Faculty14(m): 3:31pm On May 20, 2019 |
Efewestern:lol the way you're thinking this war will favour Iran baffles me I'm not praying for war.. The same analysis you're running now is the exact same thing Saddam and many analysts were doing back then Oga you don't know America like some of us do I tell you.. They'll cripple Iran infrastructure, defence and whatever is left of there government 1 Like |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by hermesprogidy(m): 3:36pm On May 20, 2019 |
HBB1:Very apt analysis. Most people do not know the US goaded Japan into world war 2. US sanctions had crippled Japanese war efforts by depriving them of needed raw materials. In fact Japan had only a month supply of fuel before attacking pearl Harbour. It is rumoured America had cracked the Japanese codes and knew about Japanese plans to bomb pearl Harbour hence moved their aircraft carriers and some destroyers days before the attack. German technological superiority was something else though. 1 Like |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by pchukwudi: 3:37pm On May 20, 2019 |
Did you even read the tweet? So US should be laughing when Iran shoot at them and chant "dead to America"? You probably think that Obama is still the president. [s] Efewestern:[/s] |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by hecomeshome(m): 3:40pm On May 20, 2019 |
scully95: Go easy, bros. We are just having a conversation. |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by tolexy007(m): 3:41pm On May 20, 2019 |
chineloSA: not because of China or Russia but because of damages on thier close Allie South korea |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by hermesprogidy(m): 3:41pm On May 20, 2019 |
odigbosky:Japan attacked America out of desperation. They didn't expect America would be easy. Their calculation was a short war with America and quick peace negotiations. But it backfired big time. 1 Like |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by pchukwudi: 3:46pm On May 20, 2019 |
You see, the problem with all those anti America hot heads is that they mistake the US culture of self-restraint for weakness. The dudes have no idea that almost the entire Europe literally pay the US for protection. These dudes have no idea that the US can actually shut down the entire world within 24 hours if they feel like it. They did not know how passionately they should be thanking God that it's not China, Russia or the Arabs that has the kind of power that the US posses. Faculty14: 1 Like |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by tolexy007(m): 3:55pm On May 20, 2019 |
so people just want to push Iran to their quick destruction..... |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by odigbosky(m): 3:56pm On May 20, 2019 |
HBB1: The Japanese chased the British away from south east Asia. They defeated Russia, they were fighting the Australians in the jungles of Indonesia. The Japanese learned from the Germans, they were dogged fighters. Do you know that the Chinese are still scared of Japan till date. Go read about the Japs. |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by Almunjid(m): 3:57pm On May 20, 2019 |
kings59: Thanks! 1 Like |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by tolexy007(m): 3:58pm On May 20, 2019 |
pchukwudi: you said it...some of dem even forget that EU hides under America to avoid destruction from Russia, so if America call for war today his allies will support, cos if america falls, EU falls 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by Almunjid(m): 3:59pm On May 20, 2019 |
BrownRoofRep: I think say u no get sense. |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by Faculty14(m): 4:01pm On May 20, 2019 |
pchukwudi:they know nothing boss. The don't no NATO is still U.S They don't know U.S has bases in the UK and Germany The don't know U.S once fought in the Persian gulf and defeated it's enemies They don't know the U.S has being fighting wars for the past 20years making it the most experienced fighting force in the world The don't know as a result of there fighting years, the keep adapting and innovatiing new techniques and weapons for Modern Warfare Or maybe the know but are blinded by sentiments. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by coolcentbigman(m): 4:02pm On May 20, 2019 |
Those saying israel was defeated by iran was a big lie, you can search google yourself this was one of israel war histories i pick up from google. THE SIX-DAY WAR AND ITS IMPACT ON ARAB AND ISRAELI CONFLICT 93 1. The withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from the occupied territories. 2. Respect for and recognition of any sovereignty. 3. A solution to the Palestinian refugee problem. The Arabs were willing to make peace with Israel and recognise Israel’s right to exist, but only after the Israelis had withdrawn from the conquered Arab territories. The Israelis, in turn, declared their readiness to withdraw from the occupied territories, but insisted that the Arabs should first recognize Israel’s existence and make peace so that withdrawals and the refugee issue could be negotiated. Israel would use the occupied territories as a guarantee for peace, that is to say, as a bargaining chip: land for peace—step by step5 . The war changed the power balance in the Middle East. It was now clear that Israel was militarily stronger than any of the Arab countries, and it changed the Arab countries’ diplomatic and economic relations with the outside world. According to Steven Spiegel, the relationship between the USA and Israel has gone through two phases: before and after the Six-day War: Phase 1 (1948-1967): Israel as a burden: “In the period from the emergence of the State of Israel to the Six-Day War, American leaders generally saw the fledgling Jewish state as a burden cast upon the United States by dint of circumstance.”6 Phase 2 (1967-1992): Israel as an attractive ally: “The Six-Day War, in any case, had a profound impact on American-Israeli relations and would, in time, transform them. To American leaders, the war had demonstrated that Israel was indeed the prime military power in the area, providing a new dimension to the perspective of Israel as a potential benefit to American interests”. Beyond the military achievements, Israel’s victory created a lasting sense of shame, with much of the Arab population and Arabs being in shock over Israel’s success. The disappointment was so great, the Egyptian president, Gamal Abdul Nasser, would resign the presidency. The defeat in the June war also affected the Arab countries’ military and economy, leading to the collapse in the common front of Arab armies, which had existed up to the war in 1973, and, finally, the pan-Arabism ideology was weakened. As one of the most significant results of the June war, the Arab countries were divided into two sections. The first being Egypt, which was more open to the West and the United States. The second section consisted of Iraq, Syria, and South Yemen who received military and financial support from the USSR7 . For the Palestinians, the defeat meant that they had to take their problems into their own hands. Palestinians were now a political force, who fought their own battles. After 1969, the Palestine Liberation Organization PLO, which was as an umbrella for a host of new groups—the People’s Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) and Black September, emerged. They tried to conduct guerrilla warfare in the occupied territories, but the Israelis put an effective end to this. Then some Palestinian groups began to use other means such as hijacking, and the purpose behind those actions was that they wanted to make the Palestinian problem visible to the western world8 . 1967-war consequences for Israeli-Palestinian relations Google only started iran as the recent country threatening israel of their record but the israel nation are trying to understand the iran war strategies. Iran is the most sophisticated and dangerous adversary Israel has ever faced. A theocracy with a long-term perspective, Iran recognizes that it cannot destroy Israel in the short term and has thus adopted a decades-long strategy of attrition until destruction. Israel is a frenetic democracy, focused on the here and now. Although we can manage the conflict with Iran and defend ourselves successfully, Iran may simply be our first adversary that is too big and powerful to be defeated. Israel must thus adopt a national security strategy best suited to this new kind of long-term confrontation, one of "strategic patience," based on maximal self-restraint, even in the face of significant provocations, and greater emphasis on defense (e.g. Iron Dome) and diplomacy. Offense would be resorted to when the other options have been exhausted, Israel can achieve significant periods of calm (5-10 years), at a price it is willing to pay, and maintain societal resilience. |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by Cadec007(m): 4:07pm On May 20, 2019 |
Ifesinachi22:have you asked yourselfs why America continues to punish and control the Iranian oil business?? Instead of you to condemn the act.... Anyways, Nigeria is next... US has touched literally every large oil producing countries, directly or indirectly... Iran Libya Venezuela Kuwait Qatar Watch out bro, Naija is next...... A fight would just break out for no reason and the US would offer to intervene, with literally little or no choice, we would accept and then the penetration would begin.... The US is a bitch!!!!! 1 Like |
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