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Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by HBB1(m): 4:10pm On May 20, 2019 |
odigbosky: ...And that translates to technological superiority? The Afghans defeated Russia and England translates to superiority? How did they learn from the Germans, when and where? China scared of Japan now? The same Japan Mao Zedong defeated. The sleeping giant of the east is awake now. Any Asian country that dares them wants to be ruined! |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by BlackLaw: 4:15pm On May 20, 2019 |
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Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by HBB1(m): 4:21pm On May 20, 2019 |
Efewestern: Naah!!! It was guerilla warfare... No face to face anything. They hit and run, that was the tactic. Their casualties were more, the civilian casualties were worse and it was an ugly situation. The country was being bombed to smithereens and most of the victims were innocent. I'm not taking it away that they were fierce fighters, but how Israel lost the war when in the end Israel was last to come to the negotiating table beats me. |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by koboko69: 4:39pm On May 20, 2019 |
ScotMisile: Una too ignorant. Chia!!!! 2 Likes |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by Starks: 4:42pm On May 20, 2019 |
Cadec007:lol funny u, USA n d rest of western states haven't touch Iran oil for over 40 years why? because Iran is placed on sanction. the only states in a world that has build the most sophisticated warhead missile weapon is Russia n USA. but Russia is not economically strong, so we give it to USA. the names of nuclear weapons u see flying on nairaland claim iran have is notting compare to what USA have. Iran right now is just pained n bitter state. Iranian are cursing their leaders who forceful converted them to Muslim , they prefer their old culture, even d people of Iran are looking for means to revolt against their wicked Islamic leader. Iran is decayed since there oil is smuggled for exchange of cheap nuclear weapons.it seems that all Iran has. |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by kmaster007: 4:43pm On May 20, 2019 |
why can't he tell North Korean dat too |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by oscillation55(m): 4:49pm On May 20, 2019 |
RTSC:Better analysis Consider man power, military wares, resources, allies & ask ursef wat Iran smoked to think dey don mature. China & Russian put together fears US na Iran go give dem much sleepless night? I doubt |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by TheShopKeeper(m): 5:07pm On May 20, 2019 |
...president trump has no concrete foreign policy...hence he's trying to pick up issues with iran...why hasn't him said anything for the past few weeks about north korea...who have since resumed testing missiles... |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 5:09pm On May 20, 2019 |
panafrican: As if his first tenure has ended... 1 Like |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by Kingspin(m): 5:09pm On May 20, 2019 |
salamudeen:US and Iran is not going to war. Iran cannot. The killing by boko, herdsmen and bandits should be the focus. thses guys are killing innocent people for no reason. |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by Nowenuse: 5:11pm On May 20, 2019 |
distributeinc: @ Bolded. The US has been sanctioning Russia for a decade now, it has not really changed anything much. As long as China & Europe keep on buying Russian gas, the US sanctions are useless. EU cannot sanction Russia when their survival is heavily tied to Russian gas. Russia and China will never allow the US destroy their biggest and strongest ally. Never! Interests or not. 1 Like |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by holaralph(m): 5:26pm On May 20, 2019 |
slimthugchimee2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DrrpOeNocI That's the Link where Iranian parliament shouting death to america |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by Efewestern: 5:31pm On May 20, 2019 |
HBB1: I think you should read this book titled "We were caught unprepared", written by an American soldier about the 2006 Lebanon war (https://www.armyupress.army.mil/Portals/7/combat-studies-institute/csi-books/we-were-caught-unprepared.pdf). It's just 1mb, download and get a true picture of the crisis, you can also recommend any book for me. here is an excerpt from the book ... On 17 July, the first large-scale Israeli ground foray began near Maroun al-Ras in an effort to establish a foothold in southern Lebanon. One of the first units to come to blows with Hezbollah in Maroun al-Ras was the elite Maglan unit, part of what the IDF called a “special forces cluster.” “We didn’t know what hit us,” one Maglan soldier told a reporter. The Special Forces soldiers were stunned by the volume of gunfire and the doggedness of the Hezbollah fighters. 1 Like |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by caybee007(m): 6:15pm On May 20, 2019 |
Efe western and some other folks have spoken the sincere truth. No doubt US is a world power however their world power most times is laddened with propaganda which many would doubt. The US cannot fight alone and in all their fights they will ensure they take it away from their soil. Iran knows all these thats why even the US is scared. Has the US ever been attacked on his soil? I mean war-like one not terrorists attacks. If the US tries to attack Iran, I can tell you that the implications and consequences will be far reaching for both countries and their allies. Iran will not only defend their territory but will take the war to them as well. It will be disastrous! I know all these are just threats and puzzles in the end time equation. 1 Like |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by odigbosky(m): 6:16pm On May 20, 2019 |
HBB1: I was not referring to Japan being technologically superior to the Americans then but they had their own military industrial complex and factories. And yes the Japanese learnt from the Germans you can read about it. Mao Zedong didn't defeat the Japanese, it was America who helped the Kuomintang defeat them in China. The worst nightmare for China is if Japan trows away her pacifist constitution and goes back to the pre world war 2 constitution |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by Nowenuse: 6:22pm On May 20, 2019 |
tolexy007: The Allies will only join the US, if the US is facing a threat to it's homeland territory cos that is when the US is really threatened, not when the US in engaging on troublesome warfare at others. You guys forget that most EU countries are still in agreement with Iran on the Nuclear deal. Apart from Israel and perhaps Saudi Arabia/Arab world, don't expect any other country to join the US in invading Iran. The EU have no interests in the invasion of Iran unlike they did in Syria. |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by odigbosky(m): 6:23pm On May 20, 2019 |
BlackLaw: I remember the 2006 Israel Hezbollah conflict because I had a aunt in Lebanon then. Many Nigerians had to run to neighbouring Jordan for safety during the war, Israel pounded Lebanon so hard. What Hezbollah did was more of guirella fighting. Hezbollah can't match the Israeli army in real conventional warfare. Them no be mate 1 Like |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by ideatoprince18(m): 6:30pm On May 20, 2019 |
martineverest:..... It's not matter of that.... Chinese are very secretive and dangerous even the U. S knows that |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by martineverest(m): 6:50pm On May 20, 2019 |
ideatoprince18:lol Chinese companies are no where near American giants in terms of AI,cloud computing,AR and Quantum computing 1 Like |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by Efewestern: 6:57pm On May 20, 2019 |
odigbosky: They ran as a result of heavy bombardment on Lebanon, Israel's Original plan was to continue an air raid in Lebanon for one month, cripple the economy and infrastructures, bomb Hezbollah key communication channels and force them to surrender. After a weak of constant bombardment, Hezbollah never stopped in shooting rockets into Isreal, all her communication channels were still in tact, Israel had no option than to send in ground troops, which Hezbollah was well prepared for. I will share you this material to read about the battle, I already posted an excerpt above, the book was written by an American soldier, he studied Israel's inability to curtain Hezbollah and how unprepared they were. https://www.armyupress.army.mil/Portals/7/combat-studies-institute/csi-books/we-were-caught-unprepared.pdf (We were caught unprepared). Same thing I'm saying about US invading Iran, They might carry out some air strikes, but will meet stiff resistance if they invade Iran territory. |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by HBB1(m): 7:11pm On May 20, 2019 |
Efewestern: And the Israelis killing more Hezbollah fighters than they lost translates to them loosing the war. The Lebanese government even with all the airstrikes folded their arms, avoiding a full scale war. Hezbollah asked for an unconditional ceasefire in the end, while Israel still demanded certain conditions, until pressured by the international community. So how did Israel loose that war? If push comes to shove, they will bomb the whole country to dust. 1 Like |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by Nobody: 7:22pm On May 20, 2019 |
TheShopKeeper: He was cozying up to Kim, the leader of the poverty stricken North Korea, who violates human rights at every turn and was taken for the fo*ol that he is. He made Kim a legend in his country. Great job! |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by Spymaster2019(m): 7:26pm On May 20, 2019 |
Explorers: Hello please refer me to one of your post about how usa is ready for war. Thanks i search I couldn’t find. Thanks inadv |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by chineloSA(f): 7:38pm On May 20, 2019 |
tolexy007: America doesn't care about S. Korea. They are only their close allies with them because they share an enemy and they had to set up military bases in S. Korea to easily get into N. Korea should N. Korea try anything. It's not that they care about S. Korea. They were in the process of setting up a Millitary Base in Ghana. It has nothing to do with being ally but strategic position for their military bases. They are worming their way into Mozambique and it has nothing to do with being friends. America doesn't care about anyone but themselves. |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 7:48pm On May 20, 2019 |
dermmy: National interest comes first before any other thing |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by factually4(m): 7:49pm On May 20, 2019 |
You don't mess with a Republican president especially when it's a certain DJ Trump 1 Like |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by Efewestern: 8:18pm On May 20, 2019 |
HBB1: Hezbollah didn't ask for any unconditional ceasefire, I even provided a book for you to update yourself about the crisis, yet you keep posting false information and lies, hyping the Israeli troops that lost shamelessly. Here is another excerpt from the book, note this book was written by Isreal strongest ally, America. On several occasions, American forces refer to the 2006 Lebanon war as it taught them a serious lesson. Israel failed on the strategic, operational, and tactical levels. Israel did not succeed in generating decapitation, paralysis, blindness, or any other effect that substantially harms the will or functioning of the organization’s command and control echelon. Nor did it succeed in suppressing the operational effectiveness of Hizbollah’s combat groups and light surface-to-surface rocket formations. At the end of the day, Israel did not upset the equilibrium of Hizbollah’s system and did not create a sense of helplessness and distress, nor did it push the organization towards cognitive-strategic collapse and a drive to end the war immediately on Israel’s terms. In the conventional arena, the IDF ground forces performed unsatisfactorily. The fight at Wadi al-Saluki, for example, revealed the failure of tank commanders and crewmen to use their smokescreen systems, the lack of indirect-fire skills, and the total absence of combined arms proficiency. The IDF lost many of these perishable combat skills during its long years of COIN operations against the Palestinians. Hezbollah proved to be a highly dedicated and professional fighting force, armed with some of the most advanced weapon systems in the world. There can be no doubt that the IDF greatly underestimated its opponent. From 2000 to 2006, Hezbollah successfully embraced a new doctrine, transforming itself from a predominantly guerrilla force into a formidable quasi-conventional fighting force. In the tactical arena, Hezbollah proved a worthy adversary for IDF ground forces. Its use of swarming ATGMs and RPGs against Israeli tanks was both shrewd and inventive. Of the 114 IDF personnel killed during the war, 30 were tank crewmen. Out of the 400 tanks involved in the fighting in southern Lebanon, 48 were hit, 40 were damaged, and 20 For six years, the IDF conducted a counterinsurgency campaign against the Palestinians and developed a doctrine rooted in EBO and high-tech wizardry. However, in the summer of 2006, when confronted by a conventional war with Hezbollah, the Israeli military proved incapable of defeating a minor adversary. Although research and analysis of this recent conflict are still ongoing, the emerging details of ill-conceived doctrine and an army marred by long years of counterinsurgency operations still yield valid and important lessons for today’s US Army officers. Please take note @ the bolded. I'm done arguing with you. do have a good night rest. 1 Like |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by falopey: 8:31pm On May 20, 2019 |
Iran! Iran! How many times I called you? Don’t let all you? Don’t let all these nairaland ewarriors push you into engaging in a war with the US. A word is enough for the wise. After all, the war would be on Iranian soil meaning more casualties of innocent civilians for Iran |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 8:33pm On May 20, 2019 |
Akanoomobowale: Check very well bro... US signatory might not be found in any rules of engagement |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 8:38pm On May 20, 2019 |
kemicalreaction: You didn't answer his question!! |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by Nobody: 8:41pm On May 20, 2019 |
OkpaNsukkaisBae:I'm tired abeg . |
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by timesup234: 8:41pm On May 20, 2019 |
Efewestern:why do you waste your time on he-goats? Hezbollah defeater Israel twice, first during the lebanon war 1982-2000 and again in 2006. Hezbollah continue firing rockets into Northern Israel to the last day of the war. Funny they didnt use their most sophisticated weapons which could have targeted Tel-Aviv. They have sent drones close to Israel's nuclear reactors since then. Israel is donut for Hezbollah forces 2 Likes |
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