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Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by morpheus24: 3:08am On May 20, 2019 |
Amujale: Pan means "every or a whole body of Africans uniting". Therefore I believe African must come together and continue to expand their knowledge. Stating that they must come first or second or third is an agenda premised on the need to claim power. Amujale: Priority is subjective. If you mean do I want other people to suffer so Africa can rise. I aint with that. The power to rise is not vested in concocting lies. Amujale: I am on this everyday Amujale: My own interests and that of other Africans are one and the same so one cannot come before the other. I am not a collectivist or a socialist All this is distraction though, you still are unable to provide me with information that I have requested from you and hide in your "africanism" running away from fact. All your Youtube sources have been challenged and fall short. |
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by Amujale(m): 3:17am On May 20, 2019 |
morpheus24: How can you say you are an Africanist and have these views? That doesnt seem right. |
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by Amujale(m): 3:20am On May 20, 2019 |
Most of the things i talk against on the forum is engulf in you morpheus24. You are untrustworthy, you lie, you steal and and you cheat. Thus to expose you completely and tterly for the bogus personality that you are. Everything that i am strongly against is manifest morpheus24. Why? morpheus25 lies point blank and cannot read properly. All my post have sources insert. If it isnt a book and the sources, then it would ptobably be a video with the sources clearly visible to the reader. I hardly use Eurocentric sources, although i have been knowm to quote Martin Bernal as most of his writings are seen as pro African literature. And yet, he keeps asking for sources, you are the worst typr of student anyone could ever have. An ingrate and a faker that would like to take the credit for the next guys efforts. morpheus24 steals You steal other peoples ideas and arguments and try to use to scam your way around the forum. You have used my own material a few times already. Not cool. It isnt your fault though I gave you my audience, you can jog along and go and spam another thread. Take what you jave learnt and use it wisely. And you morpheaus24 are a cheat. In the same way that you steal other peoples ideas snd concepts, you write as if they are your own, no reference to the original posters. |
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by morpheus24: 3:21am On May 20, 2019 |
Amujale: Respecting ones efforts in terms of the fight against Colonialism and Opression doesn't preclude me from understanding the flaws of one o its proponents |
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by morpheus24: 3:23am On May 20, 2019 |
Amujale: We have learnt nothing from you other than your use of information that is outdated. its like you telling us to go and read Darwins " the origins of man" when there is material that is out there that is way more current. SMH |
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by Amujale(m): 3:29am On May 20, 2019 |
morpheus24 is a prolific liar he lies to himself about pan Africanism and he even lies about that. If you mopheus24 are an Africanist I am the King of Scotland 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by Amujale(m): 3:50am On May 20, 2019 |
Barton discusses early American civilisations, have you heard of the "Wahetaw of Louisiana" , the Darienite Indians of Panama, the Choco Regional Indians of Colombia, the Chuarras of Brazil, the black(sic) Califonians of California or the Jamassee Indians whom in antiquity occupies modern day Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina and North Florida. There are also the Guanin who are also said to be indigenous to the Caribbean. Barton discusses black(sic) civilisations of the Americas from pre-historic to the present day times. The Washetaw of Louisiana are said to be master shipbuilders, in addition to sailing to and fro the coast of Africa, they are said to voyage the Atlantic and Caribbean Sea as well as the Pacific. 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by Amujale(m): 4:15am On May 20, 2019 |
The news of substantiated proof that Africans are found in the Americas caught the attention of pan Africanist academics and all other non- African institutes. These individually exceptional academics as part of a team of experts working out everything about our rich history. Amujale: Ivan Van Sertima (Guyanese-born associate professor of African Studies); Professor Martin Gardiner Bernal (also wrote the book Cadmean Letters, devoted to the origins of the Greek alphabet., respectively. [flash=250,250] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMg-79AzbI4[/flash] 1 Like |
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by morpheus24: 4:26am On May 20, 2019 |
Amujale: you still don't get it do you. This information is outdated. You will not find one sane scholar who will corroborate this story. Why? because these groups of people who's pigmentation is similar to that of Africans do not correlate on a genetic level, therefore they are not African people anymore so than an Aboriginal Australian is African. You are really a block head. There is only one picture below that depicts Africans that can be tied to the people of Africa today and 200,000 years ago. The rest are genetically similar to the people that live in the region where they come from "REGARDLESS OF SKIN TONE OR CRANIO METRIC & BODY MORPHOLOGY". PHENOTYPE IS NOT GENOTYPE Go back to school!
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Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by morpheus24: 4:34am On May 20, 2019 |
Amujale: Block head, the Africans that left the continent nearly 200,000 years ago are no longer African. They are every other type of person you see outside of the continent regardless of their phenotype. Some retained certain phenotypical traits advantages to them, others did not. However, all people outside of Africa didexperience mutatations on a genetic level which is how we are able to differentiate peoples on a geographical level. Correlation does not imply causation. Phenotype is not Genotype. Go back to school. |
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by Amujale(m): 4:54am On May 20, 2019 |
morpheus24: Your Eurocentric mumbojumbo is invalid around here. So stop wasting your time. Pointless conversation. Now get on your bike. You make false claims that you cannot substantiate; all my post are indeed verifiable. You will NOT take the time to read content, links, books and other media. Since you will Not have a sensible conversation without being deceitful, our conversation ends. 1 Like |
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by Amujale(m): 5:03am On May 20, 2019 |
Barton discusses early American civilisations, have you heard of the "Wahetaw of Louisiana" , the Darienite Indians of Panama, the Choco Regional Indians of Colombia, the Chuarras of Brazil, the black(sic) Califonians of California or the Jamassee Indians whom in antiquity occupies modern day Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina and North Florida. There are also the Guanin who are also said to be indigenous to the Caribbean. Barton discusses black(sic) civilisations of the Americas from pre-historic to the present day times. The Washetaw of Louisiana are said to be master shipbuilders, in addition to sailing to and fro the coast of Africa, they are said to voyage the Atlantic and Caribbean Sea as well as the Pacific. 1 Like |
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by morpheus24: 5:04am On May 20, 2019 |
Amujale: Let me help you out young man. Correlation does not imply causation. Because two things are co-related, this does not imply that one caused the other. There are black skinned people who exist outside of Africa today. These black people are no more African on a genetic level than a White European. Dr Sertima's assertions that these black people in the Americas were African were based on linguistic, pictographic and phenotype. BOOM! in comes genetics which shatters all these assertions. Again for the 100th time. There is only one pic of an African below, the rest are non- Africans with genetics that correlate with people from their region. Can you pick out which one? Olodo!
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Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by Amujale(m): 5:15am On May 20, 2019 |
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by Amujale(m): 5:45am On May 20, 2019 |
Take your Eurocentric mumbo jumbo a throw into the dust bin and instesd focus on being truthful. Honesty is always the best policy. Honesty trumps almost anything. There's almost no end to the advantages of being a person that is honest. Being an honest person is a healthly way for anyone to live their lives. 1 Like |
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by morpheus24: 6:11am On May 20, 2019 |
Amujale: Always red herring. Honesty has nothing to do with this. Deductive reasoning does. Of the pictures I posted can you point to the one who is an African? if you pic one, why did you pic that particular one. If you pic all of them then why? Olodo. I am trying to help you use your brain. |
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by Amujale(m): 6:26am On May 20, 2019 |
Without a shadow of doubt Africans are indigenous to mainland Africa, however, all and every other African community that exists outside of Africa prior to 1400 B.C.E. are said to have circumnavigate the oceans and seas in order to transport themselves. The earliest examples are given in line with the early Eskimo, Indigenous Americans, Indigenous Asians, Indigenous Australasian and the Indigenous European. (not meant as a chronology rather alphabetic in order) They circumnavigated the oceans and seas, depicted themselves similar to present mainland Africans, they described themselves the same way as well. All people of the world can trace their roots to African history. Simply put, all the communities in the world are born from Africa. https://www.mirror.co.uk/tech/astonishing-3d-face-10000-year-10561797?fbclid=IwAR1U_5z0ABKkXQThJVjpf0_mRycSbUwqllWL1ZtOhLjr7YDLrEsMnGqCWa0 1 Like |
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by Guru10450(m): 12:50am On May 21, 2019 |
Native Americans are currently fighting law suits in American courts in areas of their interests. They attempt to get the courts to agree with their arguments and award them settlements and repatriations. They have had success with similar claims in the past. African American families that are direct descendants of the Native American should also fight for their part of the settlements and repatriations. There’s a proposition to all law students out there. Here we are talking about fitting ourselves into a multi billion dollar project that will employ thousands of professionals from all different backgrounds, especially law. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by Amujale(m): 1:58am On May 21, 2019 |
morpheus24: How dare you use may name for your evil intentions? And you still haven’t corrected the error.
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Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by morpheus24: 3:16am On May 21, 2019 |
Amujale: Please pay attention to all the bolded parts above from the article you reference. This just exposes how updated information is necessary. 1. The fossils both of Apiuna and Luzia are dated within the period humans from Siberia and Asia migrating via land into the Americas i.e 7000-15000 years ago. They did not come by boats or ships 2.The reconstruction originally fit within cranio metric measurements for Australian Aborigenes and Melanasians who resemble Africans physically but are the most genetically distant from them 3. Luzia skull which is similar to that of Apnia but much older at 11,500 years was DNA sequenced a year after this article and in November 2018, scientists of the University of São Paulo and Harvard University released a study that contradicts the alleged Australo-Melanesian physical appearance of Luzia. Using DNA sequencing, the results showed that Luzia had Mongoloid features.[24] The bust of Luzia displaying African features was done in the 1990's. "However, skull shape isn't a reliable marker of ancestrality or geographic origin. Genetics is the best basis for this type of inference," Strauss explained."The genetic results of the new study show categorically that there was no significant connection between the Lagoa Santa people and groups from Africa or Australia. So the hypothesis that Luzia's people derived from a migratory wave prior to the ancestors of today's Amerindians has been disproved. On the contrary, the DNA shows that Luzia's people were entirely Amerindian. How many human migrations from Asia came to the Americas at the end of the Ice Age more than 16,000 years ago was hitherto unknown. The traditional theory, formulated in the 1980s by Neves and other researchers, was that the first wave had African traits or traits similar to those of the Australian Aboriginals. The well-known forensic facial reconstruction of Luzia was performed in accordance with this theory. Luzia is the name given to the fossil skull of a woman who lived in the Lagoa Santa region 12,500 years ago and is sometimes referred to as the "first Brazilian". The bust of Luzia with African features was built on the basis of the skull's morphology by British anatomical artist Richard Neave in the 1990s. "However, skull shape isn't a reliable marker of ancestrality or geographic origin. Genetics is the best basis for this type of inference," Strauss explained. "The genetic results of the new study show categorically that there was no significant connection between the Lagoa Santa people and groups from Africa or Australia. So the hypothesis that Luzia's people derived from a migratory wave prior to the ancestors of today's Amerindians has been disproved. On the contrary, the DNA shows that Luzia's people were entirely Amerindian." https://sciencecodex.com/new-face-south-american-people-623728 |
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by morpheus24: 3:31am On May 21, 2019 |
Guru10450: i don't know what your blabbing on about here |
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by Amujale(m): 3:38am On May 21, 2019 |
Amujale: morpheus24: Amujale:
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Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by morpheus24: 3:42am On May 21, 2019 |
Amujale: Yes, the ancestors of all peoples including present day Africans all emanate from Africa because Homo Sapien was born in Africa, but you don't seem to grasp the implications of this statement do you. Again there is only one person below who can be identified as African on a genetic level, the rest all correlate on a genetic level with people from their regions, can you pick out the African?
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Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by Amujale(m): 3:48am On May 21, 2019 |
Amujale: morpheus24: Amujale: |
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by letu(m): 2:58am On May 23, 2019 |
morpheus24:Morpheus who outdated the information , what made them this angry/ on what ground do they base their reason to declarer the information as an outdated information. 1 Like |
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by morpheus24: 4:02pm On May 23, 2019 |
letu: The information is outdated because it did not take into account "the new information i.e. genetic studies/Human Genome Project" that has come to settle most of the circumstantial anthropological claims made by Sertima and his likes. Case in Point. The Luzia fossil dated 11,500 years ago and found in the Americas was said to be anthropological and archaeological proof that Africans were in the Americas thousands of years before the arrival of the Europeans. The bust of luzia had an intemediary morphological and cranio-metric shape similar to that of Africans and Melanasians, both of who are similar in appearance. However after the genome sequencing of Luzia DNA, it was discovered that She clustered genetically with Amerindian peoples regardless of her skull shape. |
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by letu(m): 8:33pm On May 23, 2019 |
morpheus24:who are this scientist that makes use of this new information which speaks against everything that Sertima and his likes stand for, I'll like to know more about them. 1 Like |
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by morpheus24: 9:01pm On May 23, 2019 |
letu: Why don't you avail yourself of the information by searching in the journal of human genetics. Just type in Luzia or native indian dna etc, instead of asking lazy questions. |
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by letu(m): 9:36pm On May 23, 2019 |
morpheus24:It appears that you are a very angry person, I don't need to do that kind of ridiculous research because who ever those scientist you worship are that's your business,those your scientist are not the only scientist in the whole world, there are many all over the world and they don't have the same view on African history that's why they are divided into two, (1) Afrocentric and (2) Eurocentric so it's up to us to choose which side to follow and there's no middle ground in all this is either your here or there because you appears to be the type that will call themselves pan African but will always make use of Eurocentric ideology/school of thought to describe everything that has to do with Africa so I've heard what you have to say as an angry person you are any way thanks now you can continue your argument with your friend Amujale goodbye. 2 Likes |
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by morpheus24: 9:59pm On May 23, 2019 |
letu: I don't like lazy researches letu: Data is Data and the inference is what can be construed as Eurocentric or Afrocentric. Data is not subjective. Data is objective. If I test the blood of an African and the combination is AA BB CC DD EE and I test out the blood of a Native America and it comes out FF HH II and then someone comes and says that Native Americans have African blood because the Native American's skull shape is similar to that of and African that is an inference In order to conclude we go to the genetic material of the two groups of people. if the genetics of the skull reads FF HH II similar to that of other native americans then regardless of the skull shape it is an objective statement when we say that Skull is that of a Native American. Shikena! |
Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by Amujale(m): 10:14pm On May 23, 2019 |
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Re: CNN:Europeans Killed So Many Native Americans That It Changed The Global Climate by Amujale(m): 10:16pm On May 23, 2019 |
Amujale: These conclusions are based on a thorough scientific and analytical research opposed to the Eurocentric views that are based on rhetoric and false assertions. 1 Like |
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