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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 8:30pm On May 30, 2019
Leyqute:



Heard De Ligt was also offered to us a couple of years ago but we weren’t interested.

I’m concerned about the people behind the scenes pulling the strings. Who is making these decisions? Who has the final say on which players to bring in and who not to?

It’s clear that That person lacks football sense.

No way is Ajax offering one of their best young talents to anyone at 17yrs of age.
Too many rumors and falsehood been peddled in these crazy times.

And Moura would have struggled like the rest if he had come.
We need a critical number of 4-6 players coming in for us to see a difference. All these single superhero buys like Alexis Di Maria etc won’t work.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:23pm On May 30, 2019
afrodoc2:


No way is Ajax offering one of their best young talents to anyone at 17yrs of age.
Too many rumors and falsehood been peddled in these crazy times.

And Moura would have struggled like the rest if he had come.
We need a critical number of 4-6 players coming in for us to see a difference. All these single superhero buys like Alexis Di Maria etc won’t work.


It’s not impossible.

2 years ago De Ligt had yet to make the senior team. No one knew if he would come good or not.

The statement was made by a scout. He said they recommended him to Utd, not 100% sure he was offered. At that time, Utd was more interested in established players like Bale.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:29pm On May 30, 2019
afrodoc2:


No way is Ajax offering one of their best young talents to anyone at 17yrs of age.
Too many rumors and falsehood been peddled in these crazy times.

And Moura would have struggled like the rest if he had come.
We need a critical number of 4-6 players coming in for us to see a difference. All these single superhero buys like Alexis Di Maria etc won’t work.

Moura hasn’t been spectacular for Tottenham either but for a low price he’s a steal.

I’m not advocating for a superhero buy either. Our most expensive buys haven’t really performed to expectations. Buying players is a risk, whether they are established or upcoming, or even if they are expensive or not.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 9:29pm On May 30, 2019
Leyqute:



It’s not impossible.

2 years ago De Ligt had yet to make the senior team. No one knew if he would come good or not.

The statement was made by a scout. He said they recommended him to Utd, not 100% sure he was offered. At that time, Utd was more interested in established players like Bale.

De Ligt made the senior team 3yrs ago. In fact De Ligt became a Dutch international 2yrs ago. He was already an established and rated player in the Ajax set up.

If you know how Ajax works then you will know they are not offering such a player to anyone.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:32pm On May 30, 2019
afrodoc2:


De Ligt made the senior team 3yrs ago. In fact De Ligt became a Dutch international 2yrs ago. He was already an established and rated player in the Ajax set up.

If you know how Ajax works then you will know they are not offering such a player to anyone.


Okay
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:35pm On May 30, 2019
odizeey:
this is the thing that angers me most. The fact that people are taking stupid decisions and I'll have to watch and wail.

It’s appalling. That’s why non-performing players get contract extensions and players who haven’t contributed much to the team demand for astronomical wages.

Who is making those decisions?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chidexxy007(m): 12:26am On May 31, 2019
odizeey:
apply wisdom.

Did I say we should get big names or that it was easy?

You guys be acting calm but be coming here to talk trash later but if someone complains the person is weak or oversabi.

Madrid don agree hazard Baba don even confirm am. They let Ramos go. But we no fit allow ordinary Rojo go.
Since it's not easy, let them not stress themselves let them replenish with academy graduates.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/48465721
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by obainojazz(m): 5:20am On May 31, 2019
cheesy

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Chrisus(m): 7:13am On May 31, 2019
afrodoc2:


De Ligt made the senior team 3yrs ago. In fact De Ligt became a Dutch international 2yrs ago. He was already an established and rated player in the Ajax set up.

If you know how Ajax works then you will know they are not offering such a player to anyone.


He said it was a scout, not Ajax that made the recommendation
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristineC: 7:25am On May 31, 2019
afrodoc2:


Tuanzebe is already our player so we shouldn't even count him as incoming. Your list is actually quite good, and i think quite achievable.

Another list could be De Ligt, Wan Bissaka, Ndombele, Bruno Fernandes, Jadon Sancho.

Your list would be cheaper and more realistic.
You seem to like this Jadon Sancho too much. I have not seen him but I also remember that club is a specialist in selling scams for huge figures.

I definitely think OGS should get Ndombele and Ndidi. I like the determination of the former even though I don't think his positioning is very good but he puts his back into it and his frame alongside Paul Pogba in the middle will be a handful for many opposing teams.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 8:31am On May 31, 2019
Chrisus:


He said it was a scout, not Ajax that made the recommendation

A scout can't OFFER another club's player to us. Can a scout offer Mason Greenwood to Barcelona?
I agree scouts can recommend a player but they have no rights over a player to be able to offer him to another club.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 8:40am On May 31, 2019
ChristineC:

You seem to like this Jadon Sancho too much. I have not seen him but I also remember that club is a specialist in selling scams for huge figures.

I definitely think OGS should get Ndombele and Ndidi. I like the determination of the former even though I don't think his positioning is very good but he puts his back into it and his frame alongside Paul Pogba in the middle will be a handful for many opposing teams.

Nobody is a sure thing so it is always a risk when it comes to buying players, however sometimes one just has to take the plunge.

I like Sancho because i think he is the real deal, but then he can also be a flop just like anyone else. In the English youth system with Hudson Odoi, Angel Gomes, Phil Foden, Brahim Diaz and others Sancho was the top dog so he showed potential even before he left England.

Your point about Dortmund is a very valid one, however Lewandowski also came from there so something good can still come from there.
I don't mind Pepe to be honest. I have watched more of his videos and i think he can do the job.

I am not sure Ndombele will fit in with what we have. If we are going to keep Pogba i think his CM partner should be more of a possession midfielder who also has high work rate. Ndombele seems to be more of a high work rate box-to-box type without that possession ability.

I like Ndidi, he is the Anti-Matic. There are SEVERAL good options for us to get into the midfield, so if somehow we fail to improve that department i will know Ole and Ed are not serious.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Chrisus(m): 9:14am On May 31, 2019
afrodoc2:


A scout can't OFFER another club's player to us. Can a scout offer Mason Greenwood to Barcelona?
I agree scouts can recommend a player but they have no rights over a player to be able to offer him to another club.

I didn't say offer, I said recommend, I know they're entirely different things.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 9:45am On May 31, 2019
Chrisus:


I didn't say offer, I said recommend, I know they're entirely different things.

I don't care what you said. I was responding to Ley.qute not you, and what he said was that De Ligt was OFFERED to Manchester United.
Read below.

Leyqute:



Heard De Ligt was also offered to us a couple of years ago but we weren’t interested.

I’m concerned about the people behind the scenes pulling the strings. Who is making these decisions? Who has the final say on which players to bring in and who not to?

It’s clear that That person lacks football sense.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:04pm On May 31, 2019
Mehn this Pepe looks like the guy we need for that our right wing o. The guy is good abeg shocked shocked shocked
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 4:43pm On May 31, 2019
eph12:
Mehn this Pepe looks like the guy we need for that our right wing o. The guy is good abeg shocked shocked shocked
who would you like us to sign if Sancho, Ziyech and pepe are available?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:04pm On May 31, 2019
weedtaker:
who would you like us to sign if Sancho, Ziyech and pepe are available?
This one is tough. Any of these guys will be a massive addition to that right wing. If I'm to make a choice, I will go for Pepe sha. He looks tough. Can ride a rough tackle
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by adebayo201: 5:35pm On May 31, 2019
eph12:

This one is tough. Any of these guys will be a massive addition to that right wing. If I'm to make a choice, I will go for Pepe sha. He looks tough. Can ride a rough tackle

grin jambody
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by EvilMetahuman: 6:24pm On May 31, 2019
BlueAngel444:
so the great pianist of united Sanchez has decided to play in screen - staring in a telenovela now

Na Wa oh shocked
is he playing a ghost? cheesy

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 7:09pm On May 31, 2019
weedtaker:
who would you like us to sign if Sancho, Ziyech and pepe are available?

Very tough. If I could see the future I for dey play lottery.

Pepe as eph12 said appears to be made of tough stuff and should cope well with the EPL, similar to how Mane does.

Sancho is young and will be very expensive but his ceiling is probably the highest.

Ziyech is very skilled and possibly the best passer of the 3, but might struggle the most with EPL physicality.

In a perfect world i would buy Sancho and Pepe OR Sancho and Ziyech.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:16pm On May 31, 2019
adebayo201:


grin jambody
grin grin
With skill, ball control, speed ahhhhh I'm in love already but that OGS and his ogas dem are still sleeping

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 7:18pm On May 31, 2019
eph12:

grin grin
With skill, ball control, speed ahhhhh I'm in love already but that OGS and his ogas dem are still sleeping

Na so people talk say make we no buy Mane because he was all pace and pawa.

It’s not all jambody that is bad.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:21pm On May 31, 2019
afrodoc2:


Very tough. If I could see the future I for dey play lottery.

Pepe as eph12 said appears to be made of tough stuff and should cope well with the EPL, similar to how Mane does.

Sancho is young and will be very expensive but his ceiling is probably the highest.

Ziyech is very skilled and possibly the best passer of the 3, but might struggle the most with EPL physicality.

In a perfect world i would buy Sancho and Pepe OR Sancho and Ziyech.
I'm fine with any of them

But it will all be a waste if the rest of the team have poor movements. Nobody will be taking up spaces these guys open up because of their skill and ability to draw defenders
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:23pm On May 31, 2019
afrodoc2:


Na so people talk say make we no buy Mane because he was all pace and pawa.

It’s not all jambody that is bad.
This jambody will be an excellent addition. Imagine you have someone that's not a striker scoring 20+ goals and giving loads of assists. Pepe will definitely do well, quote me
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 7:25pm On May 31, 2019
eph12:

I'm fine with any of them

But it will all be a waste if the rest of the team have poor movements. Nobody will be taking up spaces these guys open up because of their skill and ability to draw defenders

That is why we need 4-5 new starters at the same time. Buying 1-2 starters means the old viruses will just be infecting the new guys one by one.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ibime(m): 7:45pm On May 31, 2019
afrodoc2:


A scout can't OFFER another club's player to us. Can a scout offer Mason Greenwood to Barcelona?
I agree scouts can recommend a player but they have no rights over a player to be able to offer him to another club.

Agents offer players all the time, knowing they can strike a deal with the players club
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:47pm On May 31, 2019
afrodoc2:


That is why we need 4-5 new starters at the same time. Buying 1-2 starters means the old viruses will just be infecting the new guys one by one.
Exactly
Imagine we have players like Sancho, Pepe, Pogba and Rashford /Martial (even though their heads no correct) running at the opposition, with the full backs and Bruno supporting the attack, and Ndidi shielding the defense

Mans can only dream dreams bro

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ibime(m): 7:48pm On May 31, 2019
afrodoc2:


Tuanzebe is already our player so we shouldn't even count him as incoming. Your list is actually quite good, and i think quite achievable.

Another list could be De Ligt, Wan Bissaka, Ndombele, Bruno Fernandes, Jadon Sancho.

Your list would be cheaper and more realistic.

Julian Brandt and Thorgan Hazard just got sold for a combined £45m, Manure didn't flinch. Both can replace Pogba + one winger freeing up funds to improve the squad. You cannot afford more than 2 of the names above in a single window.

You guys are lethargically sleep-walking into another big name panic buy by the end of the window.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 7:52pm On May 31, 2019
Ibime:


Agents offer players all the time, knowing they can strike a deal with the players club

He was in contract with Ajax at that time so Ajax had all the cards.
The Ajax model is to keep their players for a few years and sell him after he blows for top dollar.
No way are they agreeing to sell him just before he blows.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 7:57pm On May 31, 2019
Ibime:


Julian Brandt and Thorgan Hazard just got sold for a combined £45m, Manure didn't flinch. Both can replace Pogba + one winger freeing up funds to improve the squad. You cannot afford more than 2 of the names above in a single window.

You guys are lethargically sleep-walking into another big name panic buy by the end of the window.

I don’t trust all those lightweight Bundesliga players. There is a reason those 2 went that cheap and big clubs were not after them.
Dembele and Sancho came as teenagers and impressed more than the 2 cheapies you mentioned ( especially Brandt).

We can buy them from Dortmund if push comes to shove, and of course if they impressed there.

P.S I don’t think they can replace Pogba by the way. We need to revert to a real 4-3-3 and neither Brandt or Thorgan can survive as CMs in the EPL.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ibime(m): 8:08pm On May 31, 2019
afrodoc2:


He was in contract with Ajax at that time so Ajax had all the cards.
The Ajax model is to keep their players for a few years and sell him after he blows for top dollar.
No way are they agreeing to sell him just before he blows.

Agent can hawk player with or without the selling clubs knowledge. Leave that thing. After hawking, they will start holding the selling club to ransom by refusing to sign new contract, being disruptive etc. That's how Mino Raiola was hawking Pogba to City last year.

Young boy in Ajax in his debut year, his agent would have hawked him from £10m to £20m as at then depending on his contract status.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 8:09pm On May 31, 2019
Bayern Munich saw Julian Brandt in their league and left him to be to toasting Pepe and Sane. That there is a big red flag. Let him go and develop his game in Dortmund first.

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