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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 8:49am On Jun 04, 2019 |
Hamid7:My brother don't give yourself stress, that's how fans were complaining that Guardiola doesn't have plan B that's why Chelsea and Inter knocked us out, that's also how fans were complaining that we are to reliant on our forwards under Enrique that's why we never won UCL again. That's also how Debroslink and some others complained that the reason we lost this UCL is because we are too reliant on Messi, some others blamed Valverde and you are blaming Valverde, Bartomeu and Rakitic. There are so many people to blame but how about the players that chances were created for them to score yet they didn't, chance upon chance? Well, the most important thing right now is getting a finisher, a very good one. Goals win trophies, we can still win the league next season but to win UCL you must score. And if you watched Barcelona matches, you will know that Valverde isn't conservative, in fact he is very far from conservative. Our exposure to counter attacks is more than enough proof that we are not conservative. And if you watched Liverpool vs Tottenham you would also see that Liverpool were conservative, very conservative, they had just 3 shots on target yet they won. Conservation is wisdom and it depends, sometimes it's necessary, some other times it isn't. And we didn't lose cos we were conservative, we lost cos we couldnt finish off our chances 2 Likes |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Kimbeast: 9:26am On Jun 04, 2019 |
Barcelona should never be reliant on one player, to think people are saying they need to get a messi heir is just a complete slap in the face to Barcelona’s own Philosophy, they need to get back to being a well oiled machine and get back to the passing and pressing teams of old where every player is important in their own sense. Barca need pep Back. 1 Like |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Hamid7(m): 10:08am On Jun 04, 2019 |
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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Debroslink: 10:20am On Jun 04, 2019 |
Kimbeast: God bless you real good. The greatness of Messi is now a curse to Barcelona's playing style. No one else wanna be a MAN for the benefit of the team. Everything must pass through Messi. Neymar saw this and fled. Only problem is he signed for an inferior league. I blame the board and coach for all these. 1 Like |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by HIRAETH: 10:31am On Jun 04, 2019 |
*Sevilla Confirm� Lopetegui� Appointment* Sevilla have announced the appointment of Julen Lopetegui as their new coach. The former Spain and Real Madrid boss joins the club on a three year deal. Lopetegui has been out of work since he was sacked by Real Madrid last October after just 10 league matches in charge of the club. He takes over from Joaquín Caparrós who was diaognosed with chronic leukemia . He is expected to take a directorial role at the club. ✨ _Promoted_ |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Hamid7(m): 11:00am On Jun 04, 2019 |
IKON360:Pep definitely had a plan B, he didn't approach every game same way. Enrique had Ney and Messi in his squad, you can't have such players and not rely on their speed and skills. Every team have their strength, they have players they rely on, Valverde has just Messi, If he doesn't score, we are domed. Valverde's Barca may not be the most conservative, but they are the most conservative Barcelona side of the past 10 years. They now sit deep and await opportunity for counters. This team doesn't look capable of wining UCL Pique: Slow, unnecessarily overlaps Lenglet: Good but equally slow Alba: Fast, technically good but panicks Sergi Roberto, doesn't panick, good going forward but defensively not so good Busquets: Slow, error prone Arthur, controls midfield well, almost zero creativity and vision Rakitic: Not as creative as a CM should, poor vision, sometimes walks around without contibuting anything meaningful Coutinho: Loses the ball often, lacks everything except, maybe his trademark long range suprises. Suarez: Good connection with Messi, misses the easiest of chances, dives too often Messi: Good creativity and vision, good finishing, Manages to deliver even when heavily marked, Not as fast as in his prime, but isn't poor either, walk on the pitch sometimes, but does well when he gets the ball. Dembele: Fast, fair creativity, poor decision making Now tell me if liverpool is as weak as the team above. Worse, there is a coach who turns every player into a weakling. If you are the CEO of a multinational, will you keep staff members who failed in their duty for two consecutive years? How long will you endure before you realise your investment is vanishing?. I have been a cule for at least, 12 years. If you became a cule after 2010, or you ported from an EPL team you will think it's okay to win only the league or go trophyless( yeah, english teams can retain a failed manager or player for several years.) Having a finisher won't solve our problens. We signed expensive wastes, thinking, they will solve our problem, no they made it worse. These board doesn't now the right players to sign. Ending our misery should start from getting another coach, everything else can come after that. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by 10Dove(m): 12:47pm On Jun 04, 2019 |
Hamid7:You have pointed out barca's greatest problem: Bartomeu n Valverde. No need for any merry go round with any robot. We'll be here next season when Dortmund 'll do their own comeback after 5-0 first leg defeat. 1 Like |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by BykeLaByke: 1:09pm On Jun 04, 2019 |
Madrid hitting us with that Comunicado Oficial for Jovic....my chest. |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Awesome01(m): 4:43pm On Jun 04, 2019 |
Kimbeast: Correct one my guy. We should learn from the Super Eagles, ever since Okocha retired, we've been looking for another him to carry the team, instead of playing as a team, we started doting on one no. 10 after another, they all tried and failed (Mikel included). Let's play team football, where every player is allowed to play according to his strength and creativity. Messi's magic should be a cherry on the cake. A plus and not the strategy. |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Sommyroy10: 4:45pm On Jun 04, 2019 |
Messi's Freekick against Liverpool is the UCL Goal of the Tournament.
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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Awesome01(m): 4:49pm On Jun 04, 2019 |
Hamid7: Spot on analysis IMO. I couldn't have said it better. |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Abimloaded(m): 5:09pm On Jun 04, 2019 |
Fellow Cules, UEFA is claiming Rakitic's shot was farther than Leo's free kick against Liverpool. Anti - Messi everywhere now.
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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 8:08pm On Jun 04, 2019 |
Hamid7:Very astute write up, but all your complaints about Valverde and the board etc won't have come up if we had scored in that match against Liverpool, when I joined this thread, so many fans were complaining about Valverde and how he was killing the team how Dembele should always start matches despite his earlier glaring flaws like he never gave either Alba or Roberto or Semedo enough cover, he never tracked back or how Valverde persisted with Suarez despite having Boateng on the bench and so many other complaints, then we went on a 20+ game winning streak turning out excellent performances against Athletico Madrid, Real Madrid, Man utd, Liverpool 1st leg, Lyon and other numerous games, I was pro Valverde and every Valverde complaint seized cos he was doing well. Immediately we lost the match to Liverpool, see anger and hating directed on Valverde and myself because we didn't qualify against Liverpool. And it seems you are in the same boat too. Prior to Guardiola and Enrique, no Barca coach had ever won the treble, Ronaldinho virtually brought Barca to its glory days yet he never won the treble, saying the winning of only league is nothing is an insult to the hardwork of those players. Valverde turns every player to weakling, wow!! So Ter Stegen, Pique, Dembele Messi, Suarez, Vidal are all weaklings?! Wow. As at our match against Liverpool, only two CBs were better than Pique, Van Dijk and nobody else. Barca finished UCL as one of the least conceding sides, Pique and co were exceptional. You have good analytical skills but they are extremely unfair when brought into the general picture. Busquets is old, but you can't call 5 DMs better than him, just 5. Even Suarez that I love, is past his prime, so I agree that he needs a replacement yet its hard to even find a player like him that will allow Messi thrive because until Messi leaves he remains the most important player in that team. And my brother, a finisher will solve 90% of our problems, even conservative sides need to score goals so do the most non conservative of sides need goals. Liverpool scored 4 goals, we needed just 1 and due to our not scoring that one, we couldn't qualify for UCL finals and due to our not qualifying for the finals, you feel( and so do numerous) that we need a new coach and a new board of directors... . The signing of Dembele and Coutinho were due to the departures of Neymar and Iniesta, however Coutinho can't be consistent enough for one to rely on him and Dembele is to injury prone for one to rely on him. Are they flops? Coutinho most likely, should they be replaced? Well spending over 250m on two players well, those players must recoup like 50% of the money o( that's for me). I feel Coutinho plays better when Messi isn't on the pitch, like was obvious during a few matches at the end of the season. Basically I don't think Valverde needs to be sacked yet, give him his last season and if no UCL, he can carry his wahala and go but we need a new DM and a new 9. |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 8:19pm On Jun 04, 2019 |
Kimbeast:I agree with the 1st part of your post but you spout it by saying Barca need Pep back, since man left Barca he hasn't lift UCL what will his appointment add to this team? |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by SerVik(m): 8:25pm On Jun 04, 2019 |
Where do you guys get the strength to type these long essays ffs? 3 Likes |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Afobear: 8:30pm On Jun 04, 2019 |
Haahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahhahahahhahahahahahahahhaha....Semedo wants to leave ....biscuit as DM .....Lord Valverde never planning to leave .... This is the End for you barkaDogs !!! 1 Like |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by MJBOLT: 8:55pm On Jun 04, 2019 |
if semedo leaves then we are f*cked
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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 9:33pm On Jun 04, 2019 |
SerVik:The guy is fun, he's brilliant and reasonable and it's fun interacting with him |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Hamid7(m): 10:53pm On Jun 04, 2019 |
IKON360:I was never pro Valverde. I never liked him for his disorganized gameplay. He can't get his players to perform at their peak, the ones doing doing well were established players left hehind by Enrique. The players signed under him haven't really justified their price. I know you are hoping that Barca will do better next season, but reality has not given us any sign to sugest there will be improvements, and If I'm to pick between hope and reality, I will chose reality. Let's wait for next season. |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Awesome01(m): 2:22am On Jun 05, 2019 |
Hamid7: Same way we waited for this season. |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by HIRAETH: 5:45am On Jun 05, 2019 |
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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Hamid7(m): 6:16am On Jun 05, 2019 |
Awesome01:Unfortunately, it's the only thing we can do as fans. Fc Barcelona doesn't know certain people are ranting here on Nairaland. |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by IKON360(m): 7:25am On Jun 05, 2019 |
Hamid7:Valverde's style of play is easy to understand and it's effective cos chance upon chance is created the problem is the finishing. That's what guys on this thread were complaining about, if we had a striker like Gabriel Jesus, e for better. At least the guy offers Suarez's off the ball movement, presses and scores. Suarez will miss sitters like its a hobby. Well let's wait for next season but if by August 23rd Barca hasn't signed a new 9, there is nothing to wait for. |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by zainkay: 7:50am On Jun 05, 2019 |
Losing is part of the game, but the way we played most matches we lost this season is disgraceful, Even I can count with my fingers matches we won this season convincly.. As a cule, you will agree with me valvarde Conservative and pragmatic style of football will lead us to no European glory, Barca is known for absolute dominance, free flowing attack, pressing to win the ball back anytime you lose it, all round beautiful football.. We played some good matches this season, the 4-2 win again Tottenham, 5-1 demolition of sevila in copa de rey, another comeback win against sevila that ended 4-2,check this matches highlights again, and compare with the rest of the matches we won, we played attacking and possessive football in all these games, these teams we played are attacking sides too... Defensive football will only give us a temporal results, another crumble is surely imminent, Take a look at our previous eliminations, did we play like a side who deserved to qualify?? A 4-1 win against roma at nou camp, they were clearly the better sides but we won, 3-0 against Liverpool, they played well too but they lost, this are examples of temporal results... This style suits some barca players, Rakitic is so slow, Busquet is aging and error prone too, vidal presses but lack creativity, this styles suits these players because they don't have to do much than pass the ball to Messi, let him score or create a goal, and let's protect the lead.. Why are our attacking players struggling?? The likes of semedo, malcom, coutinho, Arthur, even dembele, these players are gems, de Jong is next, they can't flourish in this kind of football... If we want to see another era of good football, like the old days, a mixed team with both experienced players and youngsters ready to replace them.. We need a new coach, An attacking minded one, a tactician, fearless, a risk taker, a motivator, not this clown we are presently stuck with 2 Likes |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by funkyjms: 8:05am On Jun 05, 2019 |
HIRAETH: Sincerely, I love the recent jabs among clubs' social handle. 1 Like |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by tesppidd: 9:01am On Jun 05, 2019 |
Semedo wants to leave because we can't guarantee him first team football. 1 Like |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Kimbeast: 9:28am On Jun 05, 2019 |
IKON360:Baba pep will turn Barca to a team. How many champions league has Barca won since he left? How many times has Barca been disgraced in the Champions league since he also left. |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by nihilistjnr: 9:54am On Jun 05, 2019 |
O to Ororo, R to Ronaldo For sizzle my nizzle, more balon dors than Messi O to Ororo, R to Ronaldo That's the anthem, throw your damn hands up O to Ororo, R to Ronaldo NOT GUILTY, YALL GOT TO FEEL ME O to Ororo, R to Ronaldo That's the anthem, throw your damn hands up 5 Likes
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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Olamyyde(m): 10:16am On Jun 05, 2019 |
IKON360: 1 Like
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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Olamyyde(m): 10:21am On Jun 05, 2019 |
360 man is still defending valverde
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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Kimbeast: 10:30am On Jun 05, 2019 |
Barca don't play with a destroyer like kante and gueye or a no 10 like ozil etc. When have you ever seen Barca play with a 10 or a creative midfielder. Even fabregas never played the 10 position when at Barca cause it's non existent. Only a fake Fan who doesn't understand Barca style of play will ask for a dm like kante or a no 10 like ozil. |
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Kimbeast: 10:32am On Jun 05, 2019 |
This okon guy is really clueless about Barca pattern of play. |
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