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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 9:08am On Jun 04, 2019 |
Naijjans,your army hasn't been paid May salaries-WTF!? A Nigerian soldier cries out after not receiving salary since may. Gistvic Reports.He wrote:https://www.gistvic.com/2019/06/alert-boost-morah-to-fight-nothing.html Basically he'll use sniper,the fav Naij suicide poison to off himself if he's not paid ASAP. How does a country at war subject its soldiers to this poo!? Without denial,deflection or projection,samorobo,obaaderemi and/or theenchanter pls explain this to us:help us understand,is all I'm saying.
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 9:10am On Jun 04, 2019 |
Kazikazi:ThePig is blind. ![]() |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 9:14am On Jun 04, 2019 |
Kazikazi: Only in the dreams of feverish wankers suffering cerebral malaria! If your Somali boyfriends dream of such a thing the encounter will end in ten minutes! Which pix are the KN ships,Genius? Abdi is demanding the impossible. Look at any random national sea boundary;it looks like the W S American map. ![]() You can see Peru is trying a Somali trick on Chile-it'll fail! 1 Like
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 9:26am On Jun 04, 2019 |
kikuyu1:u see why we call u an Austistic patient? So blog and nairaland is ur reputable source, right? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:28am On Jun 04, 2019 |
Kazikazi: What do you know about Geography Kumamoto? 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 9:30am On Jun 04, 2019 |
kikuyu1:My dear Kikuyu1, this is what matters: 2019 African power index according to the ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 9:41am On Jun 04, 2019 |
The Abuja Transcorp Hilton: Africa's Leading Business Hotel 2019,2018,2017,2016,2015. ![]() 2 Likes
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 9:41am On Jun 04, 2019 |
theenchanter: In other words its true-my goodness! |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 9:46am On Jun 04, 2019 |
theenchanter:Don't mind the autistic old boy. He should worry about the effectiveness of his army which is ranked below Zambian Army. He wastes his energy searching through nairaland morning, noon and night for bad stuff he could use as cannon fodder here.Anyway, he once admitted to being autistic. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by LittleLoli: 9:49am On Jun 04, 2019 |
TayserMahri: Have you guys seen the size of Turkana. It's literally Nairobi with it's metros plus Narok and Makueni, with barely a population of 700k people. Most of the people live in towns like Lodwar and not anyone starves here. So it's quite shocking to see people say that 1million people are starving in Turkana. To add on that, a lot more towns and centers seems to come up since the construction of Kitale Lodwar road (which is still being contracted). The once villages are building hotels and restaurants for the travellers. Which is a nice move the right way. 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 9:58am On Jun 04, 2019 |
That is key difference btw federalism and devolution (the path we choose). US is federal republic like Nigeria. Germany has devolved power. That is model kenyan borrowed. Counties (rather than states) have limited powers. They cannot for example impose sharia law. In kenya counties have local assemblies - who passes what can essentiallys are by-laws. theenchanter: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 9:58am On Jun 04, 2019 |
kikuyu1:kikuyu1, pls provide a reputable link. Either a from a Nigerian newspaper or a Nigerian online news channel, prove that they're not being payed May 2019 salary, i dont want blogs. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:03am On Jun 04, 2019 |
I think it depend on what they are ranking. Kenya has one of leanest forces in Africa. We have about 24,000 well-paid, well disciplined and most proffesional armed forces. Smaller countries like Uganda have 45,000 - South Sudan I think has more. ---- Nigeria has what - 1M soldiers - all poorly paid - like the Ethiopia. Kenya military has always done it's job well, has not overthrown civilian rule and we don't have Boko Haram internally creating refugees like Nigeria. The indisputable fact is kenya has lean force with one of largest budget in sub-sahara Africa. obaaderemi: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 10:04am On Jun 04, 2019 |
rvp2018:my question. What exactly are u devolving? What power is currently devolved to ur counties? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 10:04am On Jun 04, 2019 |
rvp2018: Federalism works better in mature countries |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:06am On Jun 04, 2019 |
Out of around 50 gov functions - we have devolved 17 - including health, agriculture, pre-schools, county roads, etc. Agriculture, including crop and animal husbandry, livestock sale yards, county abattoirs (slaughterhouses), plant and animal disease control, and fisheries. County health services, including, in particular – county health facilities and pharmacies, ambulance services, promotion of primary health care, licensing and control of undertakings that sell food to the public, veterinary services (excluding regulation of the profession which is a national government function), cemeteries, funeral parlours and crematoria, and refuse removal, refuse dumps and solid waste disposal. Control of air pollution, noise pollution, other public nuisances, and outdoor advertising. Cultural activities, public entertainment and public amenities, including – betting, casinos and other forms of gambling, racing, liquor licensing, cinemas, video shows and hiring, libraries, museums, sports and cultural activities and facilities, and county parks, beaches and recreation facilities. County transport, including – County roads (Class D, E and Unclassified Roads), street lighting, traffic and parking, public road transport, and ferries and harbours (excluding the regulation of international and national shipping and matters related thereto). Animal control and welfare, including – licensing of dogs, and facilities for the accommodation, care, and burial of animals. Trade development and regulation, including – markets, trade licences (excluding regulation of professions), fair trading practices, local tourism, and cooperative societies. County planning and development, including – statistics, land survey and mapping, boundaries and fencing, housing, and electricity and gas reticulation and energy regulation. Education – only pre-primary education (ECD), village polytechnics, home craft centres and childcare facilities. Implementation of specific national government policies on natural resources and environmental conservation, including soil and water conservation, and forestry. County public works and services, including – stormwater management systems in built-up areas, and water and sanitation services. Firefighting services and disaster management. Control of drugs and pornography. Ensuring and coordinating the participation of communities and locations in governance at the local level and assisting communities and locations to develop the administrative capacity for the effective exercise of the functions and powers and participation in governance at the local level. theenchanter: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:09am On Jun 04, 2019 |
Really? Link please. obaaderemi: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 10:09am On Jun 04, 2019 |
rvp2018:alright. Much like our local govt functions (the third tier of a federation). But ur central govt give them funds to execute their functions, right? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 10:11am On Jun 04, 2019 |
rvp2018:from WTA, 2018. https://www.worldtravelawards.com/award-africas-leading-business-hotel-2018 Six times winner in a row. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by SUFFERInSMILIIN(m): 10:12am On Jun 04, 2019 |
LittleLoli: Thank you very much for giving up the update on the ground |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:13am On Jun 04, 2019 |
Yes - they get allocation - and are not allowed to levy taxes - just licenses,fees and levies. Counties also have local authorities. So they are in between Nigeria states and LGA - theenchanter: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 10:13am On Jun 04, 2019 |
rvp2018:Yes, its okay. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:15am On Jun 04, 2019 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 10:22am On Jun 04, 2019 |
rvp2018:guy, u love anything competition. ![]() |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 10:24am On Jun 04, 2019 |
rvp2018: Kenya , Tanzania and south Africa dominate the list 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 10:54am On Jun 04, 2019 |
obaaderemi: Because they spend 60% of they budget purchasing weapons |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 10:56am On Jun 04, 2019 |
Ednited can you recommend ethnic federalism to any african country |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by cossano(m): 11:12am On Jun 04, 2019 |
Problemkid1:oh,i love football, let me search the thread, and follow it, you know for the first time in 15 years kenya will be in Afcon, even though am not sure of how will perform in that group,we are pooled with Senegal and Algeria ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by cossano(m): 11:21am On Jun 04, 2019 |
rvp2018:men i wish i could give you a million likes, this is the problem with the so called devolution, its nothing more than the former districts we use to run with nothing substantial devolution, imagine counties education functions are limited to Early childhood education and village polytechnics! who does that, counties can only construct village feeder roads, i mean its a fraud, devolution or federalism is about functions not money, money will follow functions |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by cossano(m): 11:26am On Jun 04, 2019 |
tylann:Ethiopia is not even a democracy to begin with, go and learn the reason why ethnic federalism is not working has it should. even in an ethnic federation democracy must still be the lifeline that sustains the nation. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:34am On Jun 04, 2019 |
You cannot just devolve power without building capacity. Even getting here - devolution - is a big struggle. Counties have big function in Health and Agriculture - and the consensus seem to be they have really struggled. Why would you want to load more functions when it has no capacity. Or you want to end up with Nigeria where salaries & pension areas are the norm, gov services are totally absent and the works. I think you're generally disingenuous and dishonest -coz you're politically frustrated by Raila inability to win power. What we need in Kenya - is to slowly entrench devolution - and to keep loading more functions that are better done there - for example - we can devolve school infrastructure - counties are better placed to handle that. we also need to unload some functions - for example doctor and nurses recruitment & salaries are probably better handled by national commission like TSC - we can leave the counties to handle hospital infrastructure and stoking of medicine - but I think they simply cannot handle nurses and doctors! cossano: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 11:35am On Jun 04, 2019 |
cossano: And in kenya democracy is still weak How will kenya sustain ethnic federalism while our democracy is still a joke |
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