Clefayomide:



Lol that's not being home trained, it's more like a default behavioral setting in every African (Nigerian) kid due to how the system works here.

I like the part where u said it will be useless challenging him, cos I can't win.. challenging him is more like me sending an assassin to kill me.
I spoke with a more young and reasonable lecturer abt the sub-dean's statement, and what he said was even more shocking, he said the system has also failed him as a lecturer, he made reference to the time he was undergoing his PhD program, about the evil he experienced In the hands of his senior lecturer's. Its sad to know the system has failed us all

This even adds more weight to my point..... home trained/default behavioral setting... same end result..... do not challenge authority..... and this is being passed on from generation to generation. The system has failed us all.... so how would the system be fixed if we do nothing about it? We need to start from somewhere.... and worldwide... university students are usually the ones to first challenge and bring about changes. Ours are afraid to fight for their own rights let alone for others....too home trained!

Hadampson:



In psquare's voice.... Bring it on >>>


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Iamboladee
Tiptoe
Subomi007

Make una come oh... The boss is here

Thanks man.

Regarding the 'HOME TRAINING'
Olalekank and originalsly are on point and I'll align with the submission.

Nigeria type of home training is typically a training that has turned us to something else.

Get in to homes of average Nigerians, papa go talk, pikin go dey look like sardine... We've been taught we don't have right to question and demand for explanation.

Subomi007:


Thanks man.

Regarding the 'HOME TRAINING'
Olalekank and originalsly are on point and I'll align with the submission.

Nigeria type of home training is typically a training that has turned us to something else.

Get in to homes of average Nigerians, papa go talk, pikin go dey look like sardine... We've been taught we don't have right to question and demand for explanation.

You welcome

Well, we will talk more about that later

Originalsly:


This even adds more weight to my point..... home trained/default behavioral setting... same end result..... do not challenge authority..... and this is being passed on from generation to generation. The system has failed us all.... so how would the system be fixed if we do nothing about it? We need to start from somewhere.... and worldwide... university students are usually the ones to first challenge and bring about changes. Ours are afraid to fight for their own rights let alone for others....too home trained!

How can we make a change and fix the system, when the people running the system are not giving the right youths the opportunity to make a positive change in how the system is being run? Look at the nigerian politics today, filled with old daddies that ought to be relaxing in their bed room, look at the lecturers at the University level, filled with old folks who can't even remember the last topic they thought their own student in class

Just so u know, my Dept hasn't been able to produce a first class graduate since the creation of the school, which is about 50years ago. And this isn't because there's nobody worth the crown, but because of the way lecturer's mark students low, because they know for sure that 1st class graduates are usually retained as lecturers in the schl and this lecturer's don't want that.
Now tell me how the young shall grow, when the old doesn't want them to grow!

Clefayomide:


How can we make a change and fix the system, when the people running the system are not giving the right youths the opportunity to make a positive change in how the system is being run? Look at the nigerian politics today, filled with old daddies that ought to be relaxing in their bed room, look at the lecturers at the University level, filled with old folks who can't even remember the last topic they thought their own student in class

Just so u know, my Dept hasn't been able to produce a first class graduate since the creation of the school, which is about 50years ago. And this isn't because there's nobody worth the crown, but because of the way lecturer's mark students low, because they know for sure that 1st class graduates are usually retained as lecturers in the schl and this lecturer's don't want that.
Now tell me how the young shall grow, when the old doesn't want them to grow!

Hmmmm...this is very sad and embarrassing

Beautyaddy:


Hmmmm...this is very sad and embarrassing

Very sad sir.
I really do hope a Nigerian lecturer is also reading this

Subomi007:


Thanks man.

Regarding the 'HOME TRAINING'

Get in to homes of average Nigerians, papa go talk, pikin go dey look like sardine... We've been taught we don't have right to question and demand for explanation.

If this is what Home training is, well i prefer it that way and i prefer i talk and my kids be looking like Sardines but that doesnt means I won't value my kids opinion.

Some of you wont understand until you have kids here and starts misbehaving then you understand the situation of things.

A man from Florida I met at the Consulate yesterday brought his kid(US Citizen) to the consulate to get him an international passport. He said a lot of stuffs about the kid and all but one person agreed the 7 year old boy be sent to Nigeria till he graduates high school or college and then bring him back to the US.

We all know his situation will change the moment he gets to Nigeria(Factory reset things)

Clefayomide:


How can we make a change and fix the system, when the people running the system are not giving the right youths the opportunity to make a positive change in how the system is being run? Look at the nigerian politics today, filled with old daddies that ought to be relaxing in their bed room, look at the lecturers at the University level, filled with old folks who can't even remember the last topic they thought their own student in class

Just so u know, my Dept hasn't been able to produce a first class graduate since the creation of the school, which is about 50years ago. And this isn't because there's nobody worth the crown, but because of the way lecturer's mark students low, because they know for sure that 1st class graduates are usually retained as lecturers in the schl and this lecturer's don't want that.
Now tell me how the young shall grow, when the old doesn't want them to grow!

Elderly folks are running the country.... the youths voted them in... the youths have to make a change by voting them out. The aged lecturers are in the universities... stuck in their old ways.... stuck in the mindset of what was current when they graduated in ehmmmm....1901....looking and treating you guys as if you are their grand children.... do you protest?...do you make demands?... and if they are not met take action? ..have you ever given him a veiled treat?...let him think about what is left of his career?...and about his life coming to an abrupt end? Were you paying attention to the changes in Sudan?...how a brutal regime is pressured to make changes? Follow and learn how changes come about.... by actions... not hoping and praying and doing nothing to effect the change.

Originalsly:


Elderly folks are running the country.... the youths voted them in... the youths have to make a change by voting them out. The aged lecturers are in the universities... stuck in their old ways.... stuck in the mindset of what was current when they graduated in ehmmmm....1901....looking and treating you guys as if you are their grand children.... do you protest?...do you make demands?... and if they are not met take action? ..have you ever given him a veiled treat?...let him think about what is left of his career?...and about his life coming to an abrupt end? Were you paying attention to the changes in Sudan?...how a brutal regime is pressured to make changes? Follow and learn how changes come about.... by actions... not hoping and praying and doing nothing to effect the change.

I'm also an advocate of change, and I dig you perfectly well sir

Clefayomide:


How can we make a change and fix the system, when the people running the system are not giving the right youths the opportunity to make a positive change in how the system is being run? Look at the nigerian politics today, filled with old daddies that ought to be relaxing in their bed room, look at the lecturers at the University level, filled with old folks who can't even remember the last topic they thought their own student in class

Just so u know, my Dept hasn't been able to produce a first class graduate since the creation of the school, which is about 50years ago. And this isn't because there's nobody worth the crown, but because of the way lecturer's mark students low, because they know for sure that 1st class graduates are usually retained as lecturers in the schl and this lecturer's don't want that.
Now tell me how the young shall grow, when the old doesn't want them to grow!

This is correct 100%

My department hasn't produced a first class graduate since 1975

Nigeria education system is a failed one

lionlee216:


If this is what Home training is, well i prefer it that way and i prefer i talk and my kids be looking like Sardines but that doesnt means I won't value my kids opinion.

Some of you wont understand until you have kids here and starts misbehaving then you understand the situation of things.

A man from Florida I met at the Consulate yesterday brought his kid(US Citizen) to the consulate to get him an international passport. He said a lot of stuffs about the kid and all but one person agreed the 7 year old boy be sent to Nigeria till he graduates high school or college and then bring him back to the US.

We all know his situation will change the moment he gets to Nigeria(Factory reset things)

God bless you in million folds boss

This is what i'm talking about. Imagine your son calling you crazy man... Is that right at all??

I'm not disputing the fact that part of the home training we received has turned SOME into dunce but there are some positive part which was what i emphasized on.

in my department, A lecturer came in to the lecture hall, went straight to a student on first class, pointed a finger at him and said " your GP is shaking" and I'll make sure it goes down... everybody was shock...i feel this lectures are sometimes even jealous of the students....We reported our HOD to Vc cause he was giving us applied question at 100level ....when the man came back to the lecture hall the next day, he told us that, for having the guts to report him to the VC that he's going to punish all of us. our educational system is gone and rotten, if you try to protest or make changes, they see you as trouble maker and may likely push you out of the school.

alfonso36:
in my department, A lecturer came in to the lecture hall, went straight to a student on first class, pointed a finger at him and said " your GP is shaking" and I'll make sure it goes down... everybody was shock...i feel this lectures are sometimes even jealous of the students....We reported our HOD to Vc cause he was giving us applied question at 100level ....when the man came back to the lecture hall the next day, he told us that, for having the guts to report him to the VC that he's going to punish all of us. our educational system is gone and rotten, if you try to protest or make changes, they see you as trouble maker and may likely push you out of the school.

huh...crazy...and that's why I sill maintain my stance that I seriously question most degrees earned by graduates in Nigeria.

alfonso36:
in my department, A lecturer came in to the lecture hall, went straight to a student on first class, pointed a finger at him and said " your GP is shaking" and I'll make sure it goes down... everybody was shock...i feel this lectures are sometimes even jealous of the students....We reported our HOD to Vc cause he was giving us applied question at 100level ....when the man came back to the lecture hall the next day, he told us that, for having the guts to report him to the VC that he's going to punish all of us. our educational system is gone and rotten, if you try to protest or make changes, they see you as trouble maker and may likely push you out of the school.

Originalsly

You see what I meant when I said challenging this lecturer's is like me hiring an assassin to kill me

Clefayomide:


Originalsly

You see what I meant when I said challenging this lecturer's is like me hiring an assassin to kill me

lol!...Is there any human rights as part of Nigeria's written Constitution? Let us start with this question.

Hadampson:



Dem no born am wella make she try it for naija. Most oyibo no get manners at all

I dey think how i go take train my children sef

People here get manners bro. Just say for here, if you do anyhow, dem go tell you as e be, them no go hide mouth. I think it’s 50-50 sha. Unlike in Nigeria where once you’re advanced in age, you automatically become infallible, I think our Nigerian society ties old age to common sense which sadly, is not the case.

Predstan:


Bro is this a Masters or a freshman course. Four courses in a semester?

Freshman course bro. You can pick as much classes as you want.

Olalekank:

...we all keep claiming home training

This home training thing is why many of us do not have our own stand but instead have to base all our idealogies on what we hear from church and parents and can't think on our own.

Regarding what the girl did in class, I agree she went overboard but she's been taught to think for herself, and not just follow blindly. Just like following our religious leaders anyhow without asking questions.

We need to train the kids and give them home training, but give them the ability to ask questions and not just gulp anything they're told

You spoke well bro

Clefayomide:


This is what I will call unbiased educational system. Nigerian lecturers will intensionally refuse to give a student the grade he/she deserves. There's a lecturer in my dept, he made a statement I will never forget, he said "none of his student can have a B in his course, the highest he can give a student is C" just imagine!!!. Immediately at that moment the urge to leave this God forsaken country increased.

This post made me remember something I experienced one day in class.


One major thing lacking in the educational system back home is a checks and balance system for lecturers. Most Nigerian universities have a “senate” charged with dishing out disciplinary actions to erring lecturers and funny enough, it is made up of fellow lecturers who would never see anything wrong in what their colleague did.

In my school here, towards the end of each semester, each student has the chance to review the lecturer and how they taught the class in general. For my biology class, the instructor came in one day with a sealed envelope and informed us that today we would be conducting a survey on her and her class. She called one person and said they should share these forms (attached below) after which another person would collect the forms, seal the envelope and submit to the administrative office for the school and then she left the class. This happened for all my classes. The good thing is it’s anonymous so the lecturer wouldn’t know who wrote what.

Honestly, I feel this is a great and foolproof way to check the rot in our educational system.

FrankNetter:


This post made me remember something I experienced one day in class.


One major thing lacking in the educational system back home is a checks and balance system for lecturers. Most Nigerian universities have a “senate” charged with dishing out disciplinary actions to erring lecturers and funny enough, it is made up of fellow lecturers who would never see anything wrong in what their colleague did.

In my school here, towards the end of each semester, each student has the chance to review the lecturer and how they taught the class in general. For my biology class, the instructor came in one day with a sealed envelope and informed us that today we would be conducting a survey on her and her class. She called one person and said they should share these forms (attached below) after which another person would collect the forms, seal the envelope and submit to the administrative office for the school and then she left the class. This happened for all my classes. The good thing is it’s anonymous so the lecturer wouldn’t know who wrote what.

Honestly, I feel this is a great and foolproof way to check the rot in our educational system.

Great!...This makes so much sense.

This is one of the many things one gets to enjoy in a sane country.

Most Higher Educational organization in the US wants to make sure that they are paying all their professors that brings out results and high productivity from their students. They need the tax benefits from the US government as well as money to keep there organization outstanding amongst the many others.

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Beautyaddy:


lol!...Is there any human rights as part of Nigeria's written Constitution? Let us start with this question.

Of course there are rights, but what we're talking about is the abuse of these Rights by power drunk individuals ranging from all the sectors. There are challenges to the adequate enforcement of this rights. Hence, the government has to amend some clauses in the Nigerian constitution

FrankNetter:


This post made me remember something I experienced one day in class.


One major thing lacking in the educational system back home is a checks and balance system for lecturers. Most Nigerian universities have a “senate” charged with dishing out disciplinary actions to erring lecturers and funny enough, it is made up of fellow lecturers who would never see anything wrong in what their colleague did.

In my school here, towards the end of each semester, each student has the chance to review the lecturer and how they taught the class in general. For my biology class, the instructor came in one day with a sealed envelope and informed us that today we would be conducting a survey on her and her class. She called one person and said they should share these forms (attached below) after which another person would collect the forms, seal the envelope and submit to the administrative office for the school and then she left the class. This happened for all my classes. The good thing is it’s anonymous so the lecturer wouldn’t know who wrote what.

Honestly, I feel this is a great and foolproof way to check the rot in our educational system.

This really is a bright idea!

FrankNetter:


People here get manners bro. Just say for here, if you do anyhow, dem go tell you as e be, them no go hide mouth. I think it’s 50-50 sha. Unlike in Nigeria where once you’re advanced in age, you automatically become infallible, I think our Nigerian society ties old age to common sense which sadly, is not the case.

So true 100%

Beautyaddy:


huh...crazy...and that's why I sill maintain my stance that I seriously question most degrees earned by graduates in Nigeria.

The system is faulty does mean most should be questioned. Or can you elaborate more what you meant by questioned?

Originalsly:


This is an example of you the students being home trained. What did you as a group of university students do about it?...absolutely nothing.... because you are trained not to question authority.... he is the sub dean.... so it's useless challenging him...... you can't win. Frank is in a university of his choice.... and we hail the system in the US... but do you know that was a right that had to be fought for?...by the Akatas? If they were home trained Frank would not be sharing this with us.
Sub dean or not... he made that statement... as university students... you should be the frontrunners of change.... pressure should be put to get him removed.... ... even if he is not.... a message would be sent to lecturers.... e careful of what you say... and what you do.... or we'll be coming for you. Only then you will see a change to lecturers being professional.

Honestly this has nothing to do with home training buh the fear of your whole academic plans ruined in just a minute or two...the moment u stand up to question those old men if god should help you there should be a major up roar among ur course mate or the man should fire bck angrily, u knw u've f**ked up...everyone will blame you........there was this case in my first year where this guy questioned the quality of the course material(not too clear photocopy on A4 paper with just a pin to hold it together...material wey we pay for) a lecturer gave us three days to exam....this man didn't fail the guy buh the guy failed all other core course in the dept..yeah the lecturer is the HOD of our dept....come to think of it how tutorials are more interactive than that of a normal class, nothing is at stake here .....I think every nigerian have an opinion,the urge to question authority buh cos of the flawed system nd flash bck of the scape goat � before you...u keep it to your self..

Same way an unarmed SARS officer would stop me nd request for my phone without me asking proper question....

And on this "home training" issue.....your dad or mum/whoever would never tell you not to ask question buh u should be polite nd ask in a respectful manner...buh i think maybe u guyz emphasis is on this phrase "don't talk when i'm talking"...Yeah, it's rude especially in a bid to claim u're right nd u're cut short with that, buh that's not all abt HOME TRAINING nd what we mostly don't understand is there are windows to ask question esp in this our FLAWED SYSTEM.

vichaz10:



Honestly this has nothing to do with home training buh the fear of your whole academic plans ruined in just a minute or two...the moment u stand up to question those old men if god should help you there should be a major up roar among ur course mate or the man should fire bck angrily, u knw u've f**ked up...everyone will blame you........there was this case in my first year where this guy questioned the quality of the course material(not too clear photocopy on A4 paper with just a pin to hold it together...material wey we pay for) a lecturer gave us three days to exam....this man didn't fail the guy buh the guy failed all other core course in the dept..yeah the lecturer is the HOD of our dept....come to think of it how tutorials are more interactive than that of a normal class, nothing is at stake here .....I think every nigerian have an opinion,the urge to question authority buh cos of the flawed system nd flash bck of the scape goat � before you...u keep it to your self..

Same way an unarmed SARS officer would stop me nd request for my phone without me asking proper question....

And on this "home training" issue.....your dad or mum/whoever would never tell you not to ask question buh u should be polite nd ask in a respectful manner...buh i think maybe u guyz emphasis is on this phrase "don't talk when i'm talking"...Yeah, it's rude especially in a bid to claim u're right nd u're cut short with that, buh that's not all abt HOME TRAINING nd what we mostly don't understand is there are windows to ask question esp in this our FLAWED SYSTEM.

Well said sir

Thegamingorca:




Muyiwa how far sekiros plat?

i never buy am sef,i was thinking of plating rdr2 before but those challenges are too stressful,with the legendary fish stuvs,nd i hate fishing

This is real educational system, it's 'fluid' and not rigid

FrankNetter:


This post made me remember something I experienced one day in class.


One major thing lacking in the educational system back home is a checks and balance system for lecturers. Most Nigerian universities have a “senate” charged with dishing out disciplinary actions to erring lecturers and funny enough, it is made up of fellow lecturers who would never see anything wrong in what their colleague did.

In my school here, towards the end of each semester, each student has the chance to review the lecturer and how they taught the class in general. For my biology class, the instructor came in one day with a sealed envelope and informed us that today we would be conducting a survey on her and her class. She called one person and said they should share these forms (attached below) after which another person would collect the forms, seal the envelope and submit to the administrative office for the school and then she left the class. This happened for all my classes. The good thing is it’s anonymous so the lecturer wouldn’t know who wrote what.

Honestly, I feel this is a great and foolproof way to check the rot in our educational system.

Where things work.how person no go come out brightest in this kind of environment,franknetter I greet you... hope school is not very demanding.best wishes though

Clefayomide:


Originalsly

You see what I meant when I said challenging this lecturer's is like me hiring an assassin to kill me

I know about such very well. That's when you fight fire with fire... no doubt... he is king on campus... but does he live there?...does he ever leave there? You allow like 3 weeks to pass and arrange for him and his car to be shelled with rotten eggs. If he has a car.... 4 flat tyres for starters.... followed by smashed windows. Follow up by shelling his house with rotten eggs.... then stones....let him live in fear..People like him would have sooo many enemies that he can't pinpoint anyone. Doing nothing is allowing him to do as he please. You'll see how overfriendly he will become.Been there done that.

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Hi Franknetter , apart from cgpa. what other criteria does your college use to select students theyl give admission into its nursing program. How about work. Did you get the promotion