tydi:


My anger is geared to those single mothers that always ask the baby father for baby upkeep like she couldn't do nothing,to get money and take care of the baby? like the baby is not hers too?? .. I don't just get.. I spit on single mother they have all failed womanhood

babymama is understandable cos afterall she had a child for d guy and d guy has to contribute for d daily upkeep of his own child, but d one dat is amusing is men who hustle and sweat and use all d proceeds to maintain one random girl on a monthly basis under d guise of gwenfwend allawance. All na racket anyway and the men that spend more than half their livelihood to get a woman's attention are d magas

lefulefu:
babymama is understandable cos afterall she had a child for d guy and d guy has to contribute for d daily upkeep of his own child, but d one dat is amusing is men who hustle and sweat and use all d proceeds to maintain one random girl on a monthly basis under d guise of gwenfwend allawance. All na racket anyway

Girlfriend allowance is not too bad as long as the money is not too much, because you will be getting steady constant knacks anytime you want. If you look at it it's even more cost effective than always using money like 10k-15k to carry olosho or esteemo from inmessage and Facebook etc everytime

lexy2014:


I didn't ask 4d reason y women collect money 4 sex. D question I asked is this, is sex by 2 consenting adults not enjoyed by both parties? Are both parties not satisfying their sexual urges by giving themselves 2 each other 4 sex?

And I’m telling you even though they both enjoyed it, one party is potentially losing more than the other in the long run

Okay tell them.

lefulefu:
babymama is understandable cos afterall she had a child for d guy and d guy has to contribute for d daily upkeep of his own child, but d one dat is amusing is men who hustle and sweat and use all d proceeds to maintain one random girl on a monthly basis under d guise of gwenfwend allawance. All na racket anyway

That's stupidity raised to power his death.. Some even go to the extent of buying a car for the lady.

To the babymama aspect, I believe it should be 50/50, the man maybe financial not fit when the child was given birth to but there is no where he would totally neglect his child when he becomes financial buoyant. The woman shouldn't just fold hands and wait for the man when she has the resources for the child at the moment knowing his financial stance of the guy. Nothing bad if she acts now the man acts later.

Jayjoycey:
Shes right, women should not feel entitled to her man's money same way d man should not feel entitled to her body in a relationship.

The body you are talking about , both enjoy the sex, sex is not for men, sex is not a man thing but a sweet feelings, OmG, you never see animals sex?? Them Dey pay??, in biology we are higher animals,

ibkayee:

And I’m telling you even though they both enjoyed it, one party is potentially losing more than the other in the long run

I didn't ask u about "potential" loss. But since u used d word "potential", that means it isn't actually a loss. D important thing is that both parties enjoy d act& if they both do, then one party shouldn't get remunerated 4 an act that is enjoyed by both parties

lexy2014:


I didn't ask u about "potential" loss. But since u used d word "potential", that means it isn't actually a loss. D important thing is that both parties enjoy d act& if they both do, then one party shouldn't get remunerated 4 an act that is enjoyed by both parties

Ok we aren’t going to agree on this thing, no worries. Have a blessed day

Jayjoycey:
Shes right, women should not feel entitled to her man's money same way d man should not feel entitled to her body in a relationship.

because the sex is not both parties engaging themselves in it? is sex the only thing gals can offer? ladies are acting like they're doing us favour with just only sex goch talk is cheap o

Uhmmm.
Since I came to this world, I no get the head of a man giving me money instead it's the other way round. Shile can you please send me 2k, I'm stranded where I am. Shile there's this thing I'm working on, and I need this certain amount of money, please borrow me I will pay back. Shile send me airtime I'm having difficulty getting one here. If I don't give, no more flash from them again till Jesus comes. The last was, me I'm going to my stylist to make my hair. Guy: No make it at XYZ salon downstream the road. Me: Haa no ooo. I don't have the money for such places o. I can't afford it abeg. Guy: Don't worry I will pay. Me: No let me go to my own salon where I can afford. Guy: No do it here I will pay se. Me:OK o. Me went to the big salon. loosen my hair and get it relaxed. My brothers and sisters only relax o. No setting nothing. I was through and my mind uncle will pay. I went home. No one challenged me o. In my mind, uncle has settled them. Only for uncle to call me the following morning asking why I no pay the stylist. I was like pay bawo. You told me you will pay. Uncle said but I should have at least paid. Uncle then said the stylist said it's 6,500. I said for what? Wetin I do? Just to retouch? Am I to pay for the AC, movies and light refreshment given to me at the salon? Anyway I already told you I don't have the money for such places and my own stylist won't collect more than 1k and that's if na generator she use. Uncle said I should go and pay. I said me no get the money o. Na your cross be that carry am. Na so stylist call me o. Uncle don carry number give stylist. I told uncle stylist that I won't pay that kind of money because I tell the other uncle say no be my type of person dey come una salon. I am not a slay queen. I no get sugar daddy wey dey throw money give me. I be confirm okirika and food hustler. Na uncle say him go pay say make I come. Anyway I be wan go my own salon wey no go collect pass 1k. I will pay you 1k last. I no dey for all that sakamanje level. Na so I pay 1k ooo. Till today that oda uncle no flash my phone me sef no mind. I face my front.
So all these babes wey men dey throwey money give, how do they do it Where dem dey see these guys sef because I no just get that head at all. Man go dey beside me and I go dey pay for my food, the man no go even shake body say make e even pay for water at least. I'm so used to footing my bills that's why I no even dey look their side again. I don't depend on anyone money. Like Op said we both have 24 hours. Work!
Anyway God bless all the ladies out there hustling without any male support. May we reap the reward of our hustling soon. Amin

akinjojo1234:


Girlfriend allowance is not too bad as long as the money is not too much, because you will be getting steady constant knacks anytime you want. If you look at it it's even more cost effective than always using money like 10k-15k to carry olosho or esteemo from inmessage and Facebook etc everytime

bros make u enter ashawo beer palour thread and u will see guys who say dem dey maintain ashawo with 300k-400k monthly and other claim na 150k weekly. Guy ehn some men spend thru their nose just to get pussy.

lefulefu:
bros make u enter ashawo beer palour thread and u will see guys who say dem dey maintain ashawo with 300k-400k monthly and other claim na 150k weekly. Guy ehn some men spend thru their nose just to get pussy.

I dey tell you bros

Some guys can mumu for pussy ehn

ibkayee:

Ok we aren’t going to agree on this thing, no worries. Have a blessed day

We have agreed that both parties enjoy sex. That is a fact& because they both enjoy sex, then there's no basis 4 payment 2 one of d parties. What u haven't been able 2do is 2 establish a cogent justification 4 women collecting money 4 what they enjoy doing cos there's no justification. Cheers

liberalchick:
Sorry Nigerian guys brought this on themselves, what we are witnessing is a symptom of the excessive materialism in our culture. In the 90s and early 00s, girls were happy to receive mix tapes, handmade cards or a wooden frame with an insert of your portrait as gifts. Then internet came, ‘yahoo yahoo’ came and the game changed.

Nigerians always have some need to show off their wealth or believe the success of a man can only be measured by his wealth. Nigerians will rather worship money THAN intellect. Nigerian society only respect people with money. Who better to show off this new wealth to than girls? As time went on Nigerian men started throwing money at girls to prove they were the best suitor for her affections. The more need to show off the higher the financial expectations became.

Black Americans girls chase Nigerian dudes even though they say they’re sexist because, Nigerian guys have a reputation of out SPENDING men of other race/culture.

For example, ‘The act of proposing’, before girls were ok getting engaged without a ring. Then, boys started buying rings and the rings became more expensive. Now one dude upped the ante and started the whole ‘public proposal with a car’ now it’s almost a norm in our culture to propose with an elaborate gift and show off on Instagram.

Sorry the chickens have come home to roost.

As in ehn?

akinjojo1234:


Girlfriend allowance is not too bad as long as the money is not too much, because you will be getting steady constant knacks anytime you want. If you look at it it's even more cost effective than always using money like 10k-15k to carry olosho or esteemo from inmessage and Facebook etc everytime

Can't u convince a lady to have sex with u without paying her? Must money b d only way u can use in communicating with a lady?

lexy2014:


We have agreed that both parties enjoy sex. That is a fact& because they both enjoy sex, then there's no basis 4 payment 2 one of d parties. What u haven't been able 2do is 2 establish a cogent justification 4 women collecting money 4 what they enjoy doing cos there's no justification. Cheers

I’ve put forth my justification(s). You just don’t want to accept it lol and that’s ok

lefulefu:
bros make u enter ashawo beer palour thread and u will see guys who say dem dey maintain ashawo with 300k-400k monthly and other claim na 150k weekly. Guy ehn some men spend thru their nose just to get pussy.

It shows that most Nigerian men who engage in such lack d confidence to talk 2 women

lexy2014:


Can't u convince a lady to have sex with u without paying her? Must money b d only way u can use in communicating with a lady?

If you want a steady girlfriend that you can call anytime for steady straffs be ready to at least give her some little token from time to time. Or are you a rapist

akinjojo1234:


Girlfriend allowance is not too bad. If you look at it it's even more cost effective than always using money like 10k-15k to carry olosho or esteemo from inmessage and Facebook etc everytime

see my guy giving money to a girl monthly under the guise of girlfriend will have d same effect on u if u carry ashawo with 10k-15k everyday. Both effects are u find it hard to save money wich u might use to develop ur hustle or use to fund urself in ur future endevors. Thats why u see some men wey dey earn 500k or above but d money no dey show for im body. He will still be looking haggard cos d bulk of d money he earns he uses it to fund slayqueens or olosho but then u might see some men earnin 40k but they might still be looking good and fresh.wen u too make woman ur priority u cant use money on urself anymore.

ibkayee:

And I’m telling you even though they both enjoyed it, one party is potentially losing more than the other in the long run

Please, who among the two parties in a consensual sex between two adults do you think potentially lose more?.

ibkayee:

I’ve put forth my justification(s). You just don’t want to accept it lol and that’s ok

Mark my words: "cogent justification". I can't accept something that isn't cogent

victorian:








Na dem! I say na dem ooo

I made alot of sense! You are simply dodging the obvious.

I have so much I have brought into my man's life, and he knows it.

But this new guy had nothing but sex to bring into a relationship.

Simply nothing.

Shebi u guys love asking girls: what are You bringing into the relationship?

Now I'm asking what are u bringing into this relationship if I say yes let's date?

What's the purpose of this relationship, u want us to start? Tell me nah? I asked first!

Cat caught your tongue?

i dont intend to have any lengthy discussion on this matter,no guy can say that to a lady when asked such a question..

What the OP said is true,and what am saying is also true,the truth is always bitter!

And if what you said about contributing to the betterment of you guys life is true,then kudos to you!

DonGtoG1:


Please, who among the two parties in a consensual sex between two adults do you think potentially lose more?.

Female. Why? Slut shamed, health risks like pregnancy and abortions. Oh and lest I forget, wide ‘borehole’ vagina (according to nland lol), can’t leave it too wide because that will be unfair to our husbands

And sometimes even safety. Men tend to have fewer ‘anxieties’ about sex than women

akinjojo1234:


If you want a steady girlfriend that you can call anytime for steady straffs be ready to at least give her some little token from time to time. Or are you a rapist

Oga sorry. That mentality is wrong except u are carrying a prostitute and u are calling her ur gf. As long as money is involved, then it is transactional sex. She isn't ur gf cos there will b other guys who can outspend u & u end up just being a number on her list. When I hear guys talk like this, it shows that u guys lack d confidence 2do anything with a woman without flashing money. That's very poor

lefulefu:
see my guy giving money to a girl monthly under the guise of girlfriend will have d same effect on u if u carry ashawo with 10k-15k everyday. Both effects are u find it hard to save money wich u might use to develop ur hustle or use to fund urself in ur future endevors. Thats why u see some men wey dey earn 500k or above but d money no dey show for im body. He will still be looking haggard cos d bulk of d money he earns he uses it to fund slayqueens or olosho but then u might see some men earnin 40k but they might still be looking good and fresh.wen u too make woman ur priority u cant use money on urself anymore.

You are very correct bro. How I wish we fit just do without woman, life for just dey smooth. This chasing of pussy has been our undoing right from the time of Noah

lexy2014:


Mark my words: "cogent justification". I can't accept something that isn't cogent

Lol ok bros

lexy2014:


Oga sorry. That mentality is wrong except u are carrying a prostitute and u are calling her ur gf. As long as money is involved, then it is transactional sex. She isn't ur gf cos there will b other guys who can outspend u & u end up just being a number on her list. When I hear guys talk like this, it shows that u guys lack d confidence 2do anything with a woman without flashing money. That's very poor

My brother you are right but look at the present situation, our girls have been so exposed to this western culture and social media nonsense that they are now so money conscious. Once you tell them you want to start anything serious with them, you automatically turn to their FATHER

ibkayee:
As long as men continue to exploit women for sex, baby gehl continue taking his money

And men will continue to treat you like sex slaves

Deepfeel:

And men will continue to treat you like sex slaves

Mo ti gbo

akinjojo1234:


My brother you are right but look at the present situation, our girls have been so exposed to this western culture and social media nonsense that they are now so money conscious. Once you tell them you want to start anything serious with them, you automatically turn to their FATHER

No woman will force u 2 give her money& there are thousands of descent girls out there who u cab date & they won't ask u 4 money. D problem is that most of d guys arent disciplined enough 2 stay in one place. its nigerian guys that create d situation u have talked about not western culture or social media. Money makes many guys 2 feel like gods where they feel they can afford anything 2d point were they now commoditise sex. That's y when they get married their wives become commodities not wives

lexy2014:


No woman will force u 2 give her money& there are thousands of descent girls out there who u cab date & they won't ask u 4 money. D problem is that most of d guys arent disciplined enough 2 stay in one place. its nigerian guys that create d situation u have talked about not western culture or social media. Money makes many guys 2 feel like gods where they feel they can afford anything 2d point were they now commoditise sex. That's y when they get married their wives become commodities not wives

Hmmmmmm, real words. I admire your mature chain of thought. It's rare these days on this forum

ibkayee:

Female. Why? Slut shamed, health risks like pregnancy and abortions. Oh and lest I forget, wide ‘borehole’ vagina (according to nland lol), can’t leave it too wide because that will be unfair to our husbands

And sometimes even safety. Men tend to have fewer ‘anxieties’ about sex than women

Solution:

Abstain if u don't want large VJ, slut shame etc
Be faithful
Condomise sex 2 avoid preg, abortions &STDs